With Dunta Tagged- new mock

[Texian]

Texans give Dunta the non exclusive tag. Teams can still negotiate with Dunta for a sign and trade. Therefore I see CB as a new priority. I don't think Texans will ante up $23 million until they know for sure Dunta is close to 100% on the field.

1. D. J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
5097, 184, 4.4 - 36 games/13 INT/55 KR 3 TDs/20 PR/122 Tackles/18 PD

2. Shonn Grenne, RB, Iowa
5112, 235, 4.5 - 2008 - 1729 yards/17 TDs - 851 yards after contact.

3. Brandon Williams, DE, Texas Tech
6043, 252, 4.67 - 38 games/68 Tackles/27 TFL/20 Sacks/5 PD/6 FF/8QBH

4. A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn State
6006, 297, 5.14 - 50 games

5. Victor Butler, OLB, Oregon State
6021, 241, 4.64 - 47 games/75 Tackles/35 TFL/22 Sacks/6 QBH

6. Henry Melton, LDE, Texas
6032, 280, 4.7 - 46 games(24 RB, 22 DE)/32 tackles/8 TFL/ 4 Sacks

7.Allen Langford, CB, Wisconsin
47 games/8 INT/127 Tackles/5TFL/25 PD

[musicman8251]

D.J moore at 15 is a HUGE reach. not gonna happen plus no one will give up to two 1rst round picks for Dunta IMO.

[GoldenHolden]

I seriously doubt we go CB in the first. The only player I see the Texans possibly taking in the first is Jenkins because he is projected to play safety, I even think that is a long shot. Locking up Dunta gives Bennet, Molden, and a later round CB draft pick from this year time to develop. If dunta is gone next season and none of our current cb's look like they can fill in, we will draft cb in the first.

[Texian]

D.J moore at 15 is a HUGE reach. not gonna happen plus no one will give up to two 1rst round picks for Dunta IMO.

A huge reach???? Did you know that D. J. Moore has better college stats than Dunta had? Just because you don't know anything about the guy does not make him a reach. The Texans tagged Dunta because he did not fully answer his rehab. If they were confidant he was close to 100% they would have given him the GTD $23 million. They didn't. Maybe next year they will. This is being smart. Learn to think ahead and prepare for any possible weakness. You and Texans will be better off if you do and they do.

[Texian]

I seriously doubt we go CB in the first. The only player I see the Texans possibly taking in the first is Jenkins because he is projected to play safety, I even think that is a long shot. Locking up Dunta gives Bennet, Molden, and a later round CB draft pick from this year time to develop. If dunta is gone next season and none of our current cb's look like they can fill in, we will draft cb in the first.

Jenkins???? There is talk Jenkins will be a FS in the NFL because it is better suited to his skills. They're saying Jenkins does not have the the quick hip turn and quick lateral movement to play man in the NFL. D.J. could be the best CB in this draft.

[outofhnd]

I wouldn't mind secondary picks of any kind after watching the secondary the last 2 years.

[GoldenHolden]

Jenkins???? There is talk Jenkins will be a FS in the NFL because it is better suited to his skills. They're saying Jenkins does not have the the quick hip turn and quick lateral movement to play man in the NFL. D.J. could be the best CB in this draft.

If you read my whole post you would see that I said we would draft Jenkins as a safety. In other words, the only way we draft a DB in the first is by taking one that would move to the safety position.

[pswizz]

I think you all are looking into the Non-exclusive tag too much. Yes teams can still negotiate a trade but no one will because they would need to give up2 first round picks. Everything that I have read said that the Texans want Dunta long term and he wants to get a deal figured out with the Texans as long as it is a fair deal. They didn't give him one last year because he was coming off a terrible injury and had to see how he would hold up. He held up, I think we can be pretty safe to assume the Texans and him will come up with a long term deal for him this coming season.

That said I don't think corner should be addressed in the first round. Everyone keeps talking about how great Bennett and Molden are going to be but no one wants to give them a real chance at starting. I agree that the only way the Texans go D-Back in the first round is if it is a safety, and even that I think would be dumb with the caliber of safeties that are projected in the second round.

[musicman8251]

A huge reach???? Did you know that D. J. Moore has better college stats than Dunta had? Just because you don't know anything about the guy does not make him a reach. The Texans tagged Dunta because he did not fully answer his rehab. If they were confidant he was close to 100% they would have given him the GTD $23 million. They didn't. Maybe next year they will. This is being smart. Learn to think ahead and prepare for any possible weakness. You and Texans will be better off if you do and they do.

dude cool your jets. thats your opinion. i can name a bunch of guys that had better stats than dunta in college that never did anything in the NFL. stats arnt everything. not only that but why would you draft a CB "in case" dunta falls through this year? if he does, then we have our draft board next year. but for right now. D-line and Saftey are are biggest needs in 09. nuff said

[dbruder44]

A huge reach???? Did you know that D. J. Moore has better college stats than Dunta had? Just because you don't know anything about the guy does not make him a reach. The Texans tagged Dunta because he did not fully answer his rehab. If they were confidant he was close to 100% they would have given him the GTD $23 million. They didn't. Maybe next year they will. This is being smart. Learn to think ahead and prepare for any possible weakness. You and Texans will be better off if you do and they do.

College stats are misleading against what competetion were they? Where did he play and against whom were the interception, and when were those interceptions, a hail mary interception before halftime or to end a game counts the same as a pick that seals a game or that changes a game in the midst or real situation. To say his stats are better than Dunta would be like saying a dude in double A had a better bating average than a guy in the pros, mybe so but who is throwing to him????

[triggernome]

College stats are misleading against what competetion were they? Where did he play and against whom were the interception, and when were those interceptions, a hail mary interception before halftime or to end a game counts the same as a pick that seals a game or that changes a game in the midst or real situation. To say his stats are better than Dunta would be like saying a dude in double A had a better bating average than a guy in the pros, mybe so but who is throwing to him????

Vanderbilt = SEC, so his competition there would be on the high end of the spectrum, I'd say. That said, I really don't see them drafting a CB in the first unless Dunta is actually gone. I see them working out a long term deal with Dunta eventually.

[Texian]

dude cool your jets. thats your opinion. nuff said

Dude, apparently you don't know that Moore is ranked as a Top 20 player, nfldraftscout.com. That wouldn't make him a reach. enuff said

Where did he play and against whom were the interception Moore played in the SEC, same as Dunta. Last year 2 of six INTs came against Georgia and Florida.

To say his stats are better than Dunta would be like saying a dude in double A had a better bating average than a guy in the pros, mybe so but who is throwing to him???? Dude they played in the same league, in fact Moore had better stats in less games. Dunta was a tackling machine. Checkout D.J.s tackles in less games.

DUNTA
42 games/114 Tackles/5 INTs- 0TDs/22 PBU/4 PR-0TDs

D.J. MOORE
36 games/148 Tackles/13 INTs-1TD/18 PBU/55 KR-3TDs/20 PR-0TD

It's not so much the non exclusive but has anyone stop to consider that if the Texans were satisfied with Dunta's rehab and were confident that he was close to 100% that they would have been happy to pay him the going price of $23 GTD. Apparently they're not satisfied. Dunta gave up big plays after his return. The Texans haven't seen enough to pay the big bucks. Let's not be prudent and prepare for the fact that Dunta might not be Dunta. Rational thinking is not permitted. Drafting another CB who could be as good if not better than Dunta is not thinkable here! Drafting a CB who could be Dunta's equal and allow the Texans to let Dunta leave after next year and save $30 million in the process is just ludicrous unfathomable thinking. Whew, enuff said.

[Heresy]

Elite college cornerbacks can have a career full of "weak" stat. It's hard to pull in interceptions and break up passes, when the opposing qb hardly ever throws to the guy you're covering.

[lilbush]

I respect Dunta as a player and was thoroughly impressed with his work ethic to make it back to the field as quick as he did; although, I am not confident he will ever be the same player. I think today's franchise tag reflects the Texan's Management uneasiness in signing Dunta to a long time deal until he proves he can play at his prior level for a whole season. I would not be opposed to drafting a CB in the first if the CB was BPA. Although, I seriously doubt the best player available at pick 15 will be a CB. If we are able to trade down to the low 20s a CB would be a more likely choice. New England has already started salivating at the chance of picking Moore @ 23. Therefore, Moore @ 23 is not a huge reach if a reach at all.

Moore: Eventual starting CB for years to come
Greene: Thunder and Lighting enough said
Hunt: Situational Pass Rusher that is much needed
Shipley: Starting C for next 8-10 yrs
If actual...I would say the Texans did well.

[Texian]

Elite college cornerbacks can have a career full of "weak" stat. It's hard to pull in interceptions and break up passes, when the opposing qb hardly ever throws to the guy you're covering.

I don't think this is the case in Dunta vs Moore. Dunta had 22 PBU vs Moore's 18 PBU so it appears they were close in times they were thrown at.

[Yosarian]

Dunta will be here for one more year without a doubt. No team is givingup 2 first round picks for him. If we can't get the long term deal done then we will have to settle for one more year. Thats what we want anyway to be sure he is the player he was before the injury(which i haven't seen yet)

Not only that , after today if you look , there are CB's flooding the market because of the cap space so it's not like there aren't equal cb's out there to pursue. No CB in the first round. We go DE or Dline. Thats what we need urgently. Our pass rush was pathetic last year. If it wasn't for Mario it would have been non existant.

Some food for thought...

Chris McAlister-Ravens-10 year vet 3 time pro bowler
David Barrett-Jets- used as back up- fresh legs
Pacman Jones- lol
Sam Madison-Giants-a beast in 2007 when he started all 16 games.....and the superbowl.
Leigh Bodden-Lions-played all 16 with Detroit..decent player on a bad team might want to move-6 ints in 2007 with cleveland

Just to name a few available CB's. No way we go CB in the first pick.

[outofhnd]

You can never have too many DBs as we have witnessed.