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CBurnett
03-05-2009, 12:56 PM
The Cowboy's made a terrible mistake by cutting the twenty-eight year old run stopping safety. SIGN HIM COACH! We have Harrison to go deep for Roy when he is tired, We have Wilson to be our ball hawk, Roy is coming off a rough season, hopefully he can come at a decent price. He is a run stopping, pass rushing safety capable of leading this young defense to be ranked in the top 5. The man can play ball he just wasn't in the right system and he didn't see eye to eye with the boys. Obviously the d-coordiator there got fired. We need to patition to bring him in COME ON Texan Fans!

LONESTARFBODY15
03-05-2009, 01:03 PM
i gotta disagree. the guy can't tackle. maybe bring him in and have demeco teach him how to wrap up instead of arm tackling and he'd be ok.

dbruder44
03-05-2009, 01:05 PM
The Cowboy's made a terrible mistake by cutting the twenty-eight year old run stopping safety. SIGN HIM COACH! We have Harrison to go deep for Roy when he is tired, We have Wilson to be our ball hawk, Roy is coming off a rough season, hopefully he can come at a decent price. He is a run stopping, pass rushing safety capable of leading this young defense to be ranked in the top 5. The man can play ball he just wasn't in the right system and he didn't see eye to eye with the boys. Obviously the d-coordiator there got fired. We need to patition to bring him in COME ON Texan Fans!

Dude put this crap in the NFL section unless we mention having any interest in him, which we don't

texansfan247
03-05-2009, 01:14 PM
id rather sign get a good prospect in the draft

powerhouse713
03-05-2009, 01:15 PM
next.......

bigtex77
03-05-2009, 01:18 PM
the guy can't tackle.

What do you mean? He has his own tackle, the horse-collar. The league even tacks on a 15 yard bonus for it. LOL

1337texansfan
03-05-2009, 01:19 PM
roy williams sucks. why would we sign a safety who only plays like a linebacker. roy has zero coverage skills, and he has some very stiff hips. the guy has to horse collar people because so many guys burn him like a peice of toast.

no thanks to roy williams, the dude is a ****** bag anyways. i have zero respect for the guy. everytime he horse collars someone , i cringe and hope that he didnt blow the guys knee out.

RockNRoll!
03-05-2009, 01:24 PM
nothing to see here...just another thread about another noteworthy free agent who the poster wants to see the texans sign...even when it makes no sense whatsoever.

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 01:34 PM
You guys are terrible at this. Seriosly the guy played with a broken fore-arm last year. And who wouldn't want someone to rip T.O. down by his collar. IN 7 years he has 611 tackles and 19 interceptions with 56 passes defences...and he can't play coverage. I said we have someone to do that anyways. People used to she away from his side of the field until they brought in a terriable d-coordinator in stewart. All im saying is he is better than any FA safety and better than any safety in the draft.

moses77550
03-05-2009, 01:37 PM
You guys are terrible at this. Seriosly the guy played with a broken fore-arm last year. And who wouldn't want someone to rip T.O. down by his collar. IN 7 years he has 611 tackles and 19 interceptions with 56 passes defences...and he can't play coverage. I said we have someone to do that anyways. People used to she away from his side of the field until they brought in a terriable d-coordinator in stewart. All im saying is he is better than any FA safety and better than any safety in the draft.

He only made the last 4 probowl by his name not his talent or stats. HELL NO!

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 01:39 PM
He only made the last 4 probowl by his name not his talent or stats. HELL NO!

LMAO..oh yea im sure him making the pro bowl was because of his name.

dbruder44
03-05-2009, 01:39 PM
You guys are terrible at this. Seriosly the guy played with a broken fore-arm last year. And who wouldn't want someone to rip T.O. down by his collar. IN 7 years he has 611 tackles and 19 interceptions with 56 passes defences...and he can't play coverage. I said we have someone to do that anyways. People used to she away from his side of the field until they brought in a terriable d-coordinator in stewart. All im saying is he is better than any FA safety and better than any safety in the draft.

I show 414 tackles and 38 passes defended. Did he just wish he made the other 197 tackles??? And those extra 18 passes he defended, does it count as a pass defense if the guy catches will more than a 10 yard cushion??

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 01:44 PM
ESPN-Len Pasquarelli Reports:
"The seven-year veteran, a fixture in the Dallas interior secondary, was named to five Pro Bowl teams and one All-Pro squad. During his career with the Cowboys, Williams collected 611 tackles, 6½ sacks, 19 interceptions and 56 passes defensed."
Get some facts.

dbruder44
03-05-2009, 01:52 PM
ESPN-Len Pasquarelli Reports:
"The seven-year veteran, a fixture in the Dallas interior secondary, was named to five Pro Bowl teams and one All-Pro squad. During his career with the Cowboys, Williams collected 611 tackles, 6½ sacks, 19 interceptions and 56 passes defensed."
Get some facts.

I got my stats from the NFL (I never knew he played for ESPN) net trust them btw.

http://www.nfl.com/players/royl.williams/careerstats?id=WIL512486

I have my facts, you can go tell Len Pasquarelli to kiss your butt though.

1337texansfan
03-05-2009, 01:53 PM
per nfl.com


G Total Solo Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int TDs Yds Avg Lng
2008 Dallas Cowboys 3 6 4 2 0.0 -- 0 -- -- -- 0.0 --
2007 Dallas Cowboys 15 92 73 19 0.0 -- 5 2 0 10 5.0 10
2006 Dallas Cowboys 16 62 52 10 0.0 -- 9 5 0 33 6.6 27
2005 Dallas Cowboys 16 81 69 12 2.5 0 7 3 1 52 17.3 46T
2004 Dallas Cowboys 16 94 73 21 0.0 -- 8 2 0 53 26.5 33
2003 Dallas Cowboys 16 72 55 17 2.0 -- 6 2 0 69 34.5 39
2002 Dallas Cowboys 16 99 88 11 2.0 0 3 5 2 90 18.0 85T

GS total solo ast scks sfty pdef int td yards lng
TOTAL 98 506 414 92 6.5 0 38 19 3 307 -- 85


get some stats from a real source, not BSPN.

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 01:54 PM
I got my stats from the NFL (I never knew he played for ESPN) net trust them btw.

http://www.nfl.com/players/royl.williams/careerstats?id=WIL512486

I have my facts, you can go tell Len Pasquarelli to kiss your butt though.

LMAO see im not lying he is =) Well I guess im just a fan of him but obviously with no support I lost this debate.

Steelersfan1693
03-05-2009, 01:57 PM
idk they crazy

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 01:57 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3954441

Steelersfan1693
03-05-2009, 01:59 PM
LMAO..oh yea im sure him making the pro bowl was because of his name.

whatv you talkin bout

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 02:00 PM
whatv you talkin bout

read the quote

TexansRage123
03-05-2009, 02:00 PM
would be stupid if we went for roy williams...only thing id suggest is him being a nickel safety....and thats if he was cheap...or even converted to being linebacker.....as long as he never horsecollars.....

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 02:02 PM
would be stupid if we went for roy williams...only thing id suggest is him being a nickel safety....and thats if he was cheap...or even converted to being linebacker.....as long as he never horsecollars.....

He should be cheap.

johndoe
03-05-2009, 02:12 PM
You guys are terrible at this. Seriosly the guy played with a broken fore-arm last year. And who wouldn't want someone to rip T.O. down by his collar. IN 7 years he has 611 tackles and 19 interceptions with 56 passes defences...and he can't play coverage. I said we have someone to do that anyways. People used to she away from his side of the field until they brought in a terriable d-coordinator in stewart. All im saying is he is better than any FA safety and better than any safety in the draft.

This dude cant cover for crap and gets burned like none other. he would be a big liability in the secondary. Barber>Williams

TexansRage123
03-05-2009, 02:13 PM
Williams could be a nickel safety though...meaning just for the run mainly...its the only thing he is good at....

BMT TEXAN
03-05-2009, 02:16 PM
No way we bring roy in here. Guy is a has been & a total liability in any1's secondary. Him saying he would convert to linebacker is def. a red flag. He couldn't cover being a safety, so what makes him/any1 think he can cover as a LB. As for tackling, he invented the horse-collar cuz he basically can't tackle. Yeah he hits hard, but what else can he do besides that, um,um,um NOTTA!!!:eek:

TexansRage123
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
nah he could be a nickel LB/Safety to just play the run...then he would be cheaper for only being in one set of plays...

CBurnett
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
the positive is that he has alot to prove. He is a vet, and he is nasty. BTW I understand the 15 yard penelty but am I the only one that appreciates him breaking peoples legs? JK

1337texansfan
03-05-2009, 02:20 PM
i would probably be say the guy is going to be too pricey as well. what he thinks he is worth and what the rest of the league thinks he is worth are going to be 2 completely different ballpark in salaries.

even at decent price this guy is so one dimensional that he always was out of the when passing down came up.

we can draft a nickel better then roy out college in the 2nd day of the draft.

TexansRage123
03-05-2009, 02:23 PM
yeah...plus i dont want too many former cowgirls joining our team...burnett is enough

1337texansfan
03-05-2009, 02:30 PM
yeah...plus i dont want too many former cowgirls joining our team...burnett is enough

feeling is mutual on that.

outofhnd
03-05-2009, 02:41 PM
Roy Williams? Nasty?

Really? he would have been a great safety in the 80s when players could fly into people and horse collar without a penalty.

the rules have made him a player of the past a player who cannot adjust his game to the new rules and just collects a paycheck.

He didnt invent the Horse collar Johnny Holland was a master of it when he played in Green Bay

**Texan**
03-05-2009, 09:08 PM
Sorry if there is already a thread on this, but I didn't see it. I did not see many Cowgirl games last year, but can Roy Williams help the Texans? I've heard he was burned alot and may be loosing a step or two. Any thoughts?

Dr. Z
03-05-2009, 09:13 PM
nah i dont think so. i wouldnt rule it out for the right price though. he has problems in coverage but is one of the best against the run.

TexansRage123
03-05-2009, 09:15 PM
he can only be a nickel safety...otherwise..he is useless

dbruder44
03-05-2009, 09:17 PM
Sorry if there is already a thread on this, but I didn't see it. I did not see many Cowgirl games last year, but can Roy Williams help the Texans? I've heard he was burned alot and may be loosing a step or two. Any thoughts?

I f you look in the NFL section there it is, Roy Williams doesn't belong in the bullpen unless we try him out which we won't

infantrycak
03-05-2009, 09:18 PM
Sorry if there is already a thread on this, but I didn't see it. I did not see many Cowgirl games last year, but can Roy Williams help the Texans? I've heard he was burned alot and may be loosing a step or two. Any thoughts?

It was in the NFL section. Rule of thumb--if someone is a free agent who has not been connected to the Texans in some fashion (like the Texans bringing in Burnett) then threads go in the NFL forum. If the Texans get linked to the player then a thread can go in the Texans forum.

TexasToro
03-05-2009, 09:44 PM
The Cowboy's made a terrible mistake by cutting the twenty-eight year old run stopping safety. SIGN HIM COACH! We have Harrison to go deep for Roy when he is tired, We have Wilson to be our ball hawk, Roy is coming off a rough season, hopefully he can come at a decent price. He is a run stopping, pass rushing safety capable of leading this young defense to be ranked in the top 5. The man can play ball he just wasn't in the right system and he didn't see eye to eye with the boys. Obviously the d-coordiator there got fired. We need to patition to bring him in COME ON Texan Fans!


Security Alert, Security Alert! A Dallas Cowboys fan has infiltrated the Texans website. Approach With Care! I believe that this is the start of many other Cowboys' fans coming to our website and proclaiming themselves long time Texans' fans.

TexansRage123
03-05-2009, 09:49 PM
they just all crying cause T.O. was lost..and romo is a hasbeen

taylor90
03-05-2009, 10:00 PM
oh boy lets see who else we can sign*looks up all avaliable free agents*...ooo ron dayne is available lets sign him he can be the powerback we need!

houstonsportsfan09
03-05-2009, 10:04 PM
Security Alert, Security Alert! A Dallas Cowboys fan has infiltrated the Texans website. Approach With Care! I believe that this is the start of many other Cowboys' fans coming to our website and proclaiming themselves long time Texans' fans.

Haha, must suck to be a Cowboys fan these days. They lose their "star" safety and your star reciever and now they cry foul. And no thanks to the "long time Texans' fans" as you said but thanks for a laugh :)

Indy Texan
03-06-2009, 06:21 PM
I would like to see the Texans get safety Roy Williams. Williams is a great safety, 5 pro bowls in seven seasons. Last season he broke his arm and did not play. I think he still has plenty in the tank.

Clamp
03-06-2009, 06:37 PM
No I haven't studied film of Roy Williams, and like many of my fellow Texans fans I rarely sit down and watch a Cowgirls game. But, I remember that for the last 2 seasons all anyone has had to say about him is that the guy couldnt cover a plate with saran wrap. I know last season that they regularly took him out on passing downs for that very reason.

Now you can't argue with the fact that the guy is an athelete and has been to many probowls, but since marcus coleman we have had nothing but safety after safety that can't cover and I for one am sick of it, and i think most others are, too. Too long has our secondary been burned and beaten deep, and too many times have I jumped up and down in frustration at seeing a game we could win if only we could stop that one last drive in the fourth quarter only to have them drive that ball on us like our guys are practice dummies.

Now i want all of you out there to stand up and shout, "I'm sick and tired, and I'm not gonna take it any more!" Shout it from the windows and rooftops to those in the streets. Let them know that we wont sit by and watch our team be laughed at or talked down to. We are Texans and we are Proud.

TexansRage123
03-07-2009, 01:21 AM
alrighty then...mr preacher man....im sure we will grab a good cover safety out of the draft....i keep sayin we need david bruton....he had the highest vertical jump. meaning he can get more interceptions with his jumping ability....

outofhnd
03-09-2009, 02:54 PM
you also have to cover to, if he was so great how come he isn't rated higher than the other safeties on the board? Id rather get Otis Wiley who has all the prototypical physical attributes but lacks consistency. Consistency you can teach, how to cover an NFL receiver, takes longer to teach. I like Bruton but he looks to be a special teams star at best

TexansRage123
03-09-2009, 03:11 PM
David Bruton is good..if u watch youtube videos of him...puttin him on special teams wouldnt be smart at all...only reason he aint rated higher..is cause mayock prob didnt follow him...then again..tom brady wasnt in top 5...QB list...and he is the best QB right now...asante samuel was a 3rd round pick...and he is great too now....meaning..just cause mayock doesnt mention him..doesnt mean he wont have a huge impact...whoever gets him...will be lucky...i can promise that

Dr. Z
03-09-2009, 03:14 PM
alrighty then...mr preacher man....im sure we will grab a good cover safety out of the draft....i keep sayin we need david bruton....he had the highest vertical jump. meaning he can get more interceptions with his jumping ability....

i have a friend that has a 40" verticle, maybe we should draft him as our safety! ... alot more goes into being an NFL player than how high you jump. :rolleyes:

outofhnd
03-09-2009, 03:19 PM
I watched the majority of Notre dame games and he played well against the mid rank college teams but didnt step up against top tier talent which is why I am not a fan of Maybin either,

johndoe
03-09-2009, 03:28 PM
i have a friend that has a 40" verticle, maybe we should draft him as our safety! ... alot more goes into being an NFL player than how high you jump. :rolleyes:

c'mon dr z...all that matters is the vert!!! you should have known that...shame on you!!!

TexansRage123
03-09-2009, 06:31 PM
i never said the vertical is all that matters...but love how fast yall jump to ur assumptions...he is good player...i seen footage of him...and all of yall are too sarcastic..thinking yall are football guru's n stuff...David Bruton Will Be A Better Safety then Patrick Chung...and yall will see....we wont get Chung anyways..who wants a jap on there team pssh this aint karate

taylor90
03-09-2009, 07:21 PM
alrighty then...mr preacher man....im sure we will grab a good cover safety out of the draft....i keep sayin we need david bruton....he had the highest vertical jump. meaning he can get more interceptions with his jumping ability....

your talking out your but..high vertical jumps dont equal more ints..it has to do with there focus, catching ability as well as many more things.

greedimidi
03-09-2009, 07:26 PM
david bruton is a big time free safety prospect. check out the highlights below. its the 2008 notre dame defense highlights. look out for david bruton...he is # 27. he made a lotta plays for his defense. had like 5 int's in the highlights.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuB_3FWbHes

Dgmtexas
03-10-2009, 01:15 AM
Do you think the Texans should pursue him?

tgriff00
03-10-2009, 07:08 AM
nope

Towlie
03-10-2009, 07:26 AM
Give me one good reason to pursue him and i'll give you 2 bad ones

houstonsportsfan09
03-10-2009, 08:06 AM
*Former Cowboys safety and pssst http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=11346

wildroot
03-10-2009, 08:45 AM
yeah...plus i dont want too many former cowgirls joining our team...burnett is enough

And Reeves....

wildroot
03-10-2009, 08:49 AM
Roy Williams has been to 5 Pro Bowls in 7 seasons and you guys are saying he can't help our secondary?!?

Se7en
03-10-2009, 09:55 AM
So that he can team back up with Reeves to make him look even worse? They have played on a team together and had horrible chemistry.

ubecool454
03-10-2009, 10:10 AM
Do you think the Texans should pursue him?

We have a limit of only one former Cowboy on the team at a time. We already got Reeves fo-git-about-it.

BMT TEXAN
03-10-2009, 10:10 AM
Once again i say hell 2 da NO!!! We def. dont need this guy services at all!!!:eek:

Houston Texans_
03-10-2009, 10:51 AM
not if he swept Reliant after game, he has lost a LOT of steps and is lost in coverage...NO WAY UN-UH