View Full Version : Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 03:14 PM
I have no idea if there is a thread for him yet. So I figured id make my own. Only person who could take him before us is the Saints right before us. He is 6'0, 204 lbs going by wikipedia.com . I Think he would be a great #2 Corner for us. he has won lots of awards:
* Consensus First-team All-Big Ten (2006)
* Consensus First-team All-Big Ten (2007)
* Second-team All-American (2007)
* Thorpe Award semifinalist (2007)
* Consensus First-team All-Big Ten (2008)
* First-team All-American (2008)
* Thorpe Award winner (2008)
and here is youtube video of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoU-BZ3gy44
He is a great playmaker for both the run and the pass. And was considered the Nations Best DB after last year's season (Thorpe award). Anyone else like Malcolm Jenkins?
houstonsportsfan09
04-19-2009, 03:47 PM
I have no idea if there is a thread for him yet. So I figured id make my own. Only person who could take him before us is the Saints right before us. He is 6'0, 204 lbs going by wikipedia.com . I Think he would be a great #2 Corner for us. he has won lots of awards:
* Consensus First-team All-Big Ten (2006)
* Consensus First-team All-Big Ten (2007)
* Second-team All-American (2007)
* Thorpe Award semifinalist (2007)
* Consensus First-team All-Big Ten (2008)
* First-team All-American (2008)
* Thorpe Award winner (2008)
and here is youtube video of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoU-BZ3gy44
He is a great playmaker for both the run and the pass. And was considered the Nations Best DB after last year's season (Thorpe award). Anyone else like Malcolm Jenkins?
I like him and wouldnt mind taking him with the 15th pick granted he is still there. Could be a versatile player playing both CB and/or S. Also wouldn't by my standards be a "reach".
GoldenHolden
04-19-2009, 03:55 PM
Although I want a OLB it would be tough to pass this guy up. I really don't think he will fall to us though. I don't trust the media when they have the clear cut top DB falling to 15 in the draft.
Texian
04-19-2009, 03:57 PM
Isn't the Ohio State Hype Machine a wonderful thing?????
naterchamp16
04-19-2009, 04:19 PM
i would pass on Jenkins. Eugene Wilson will be fine this year and nobody is sure if Jenkins is quick enough to play corner. plus next years draft class is stacked with safety's. Kubiak wants starters for this year or he might lose his job. jenkins would only start at corner, granted he is quick enough. also Matthews is a good pick but we have enough OLB's now that we brought in june and have adibi and diles. We need D for sure a pass rusher but i would almost go offense in the first if Maclin falls, move walter to slot and have a nasty WR core. no offense to A.Davis and J.Jones
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 04:46 PM
actually we would prob keep jenkins at CB..and just cause he has a slow 40 doesnt mean he doesnt have good game speed....watch the video how he stops plays...he would be a great #2...and even challenge dunta for #1....not sure why people say he is a safety..it was just suggest...i doubt he ever played a single game as a safety..and Texian im guessing ur not a fan of ohio state...even though they got 3 of the best players in this draft...CB-Jenkins, RB- Beanie Wells, LB- James Laurinitus(however its spelt). only team who needs jenkins before us is the saints...everyone else has dire needs first...
Heresy
04-19-2009, 05:36 PM
In terms of draft value, a quality cb/fs is harder to find than a quality linebacker. I like Clay Mathews or Brian Cushing well enough, but I think we can find similar production to theirs in rounds 3-4. We need to win our division to make the playoffs, and we face Peyton Manning twice a year.
Basically, I think Malcolm Jenkins would be more of a difference maker for us than either of the two linebackers likely to be available at 15. I would be happy if he fell to us and we grabbed him.
steelbtexan
04-19-2009, 05:39 PM
Is this the same Jenkins that Quan Cosby lit up.
No thanks
Ahh the Ohio St hype machine lives.
vanknights2002
04-19-2009, 05:54 PM
Malcolm Jenkins is said to be a FS in the NFL. He can play CB but he would be a ball hawk at FS. Plus he can tackle, FS look to be the best place for him.
HomeBred_Texan
04-19-2009, 06:08 PM
Isn't the Ohio State Hype Machine a wonderful thing?????
Please Mr/Mrs/Ms Texian, give us a break... There are quite a few guys I would love to have over C Matthews... But that is just me... This player here or Beenie Wells for that matter, are much better picks than a LB at this point for the entire team... A Great O keeps a poor D off the field... Period... Get a great running game and when the first half is ending and you have had the ball for 22 minutes and your opponent has only had it 8 minutes, and the score is 14 - 0, wouldn't you be happy? ;)
You are into the USC hype as much as anyone is into Ohio hype... I just want the best dang player available when we pick to be a Texan this year... :D
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 07:24 PM
i hate USC...lol....they have pretty good players come from there..but this year i only like Rey...Jenkins/Wells > Matthews/Cushing
Texian
04-19-2009, 07:31 PM
Please Mr/Mrs/Ms Texian, give us a break... There are quite a few guys I would love to have over C Matthews... But that is just me... This player here or Beenie Wells for that matter, are much better picks than a LB at this point for the entire team... A Great O keeps a poor D off the field... Period... Get a great running game and when the first half is ending and you have had the ball for 22 minutes and your opponent has only had it 8 minutes, and the score is 14 - 0, wouldn't you be happy? ;)
You are into the USC hype as much as anyone is into Ohio hype... I just want the best dang player available when we pick to be a Texan this year... :D
I see you've been hyped. Wells wasn't even the best RB in the Big 10 last year.
BMT TEXAN
04-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Im all for drafting Jenkins with 15th pick & if we do, put him at FS immediately & let him compete with Wilson for that starting spot. Yeah, Wilson did good last year but every position needs competition & Wilson is no different. This guy could be our centerfielder & dont give me that crap bout he aint quick enuf, Wilson aint no "Speedy Gonzalez" either.
Texian
04-19-2009, 09:05 PM
Im all for drafting Jenkins with 15th pick & if we do, put him at FS immediately & let him compete with Wilson for that starting spot. Yeah, Wilson did good last year but every position needs competition & Wilson is no different. This guy could be our centerfielder & dont give me that crap bout he aint quick enuf, Wilson aint no "Speedy Gonzalez" either.
Here we go again! We've been down this road once before. Jenkins ran a 4.51 at the combine and a 4.55 at his pro day. Wilson ran a 4.48 at his combine. Both lifted 15 times and Wilson jumps higher 38 vert vs Jenkins 33. But they just signed Wilson to a 3 year contract with a new DC. Wilson will be the starter for the next couple of years. But you're expecting the Texans to use their 1st RD pick for a backup safety???? Isn't the Ohio State HYPE a wonderful thing?????
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 09:08 PM
actually jenkins would be starting safety or starting #2 corner..and if u go onto ohio state's site...jenkins ran at 4.3 in the 40 for them...combine means nothing....i bet wilson wasnt. top DB in the nation when he was picked...and wilson is good cause he came from the pats....Ohio State > USC... =]
blake1776
04-19-2009, 09:10 PM
He had the quickest 3 cone drill and that's what we need, someone who can change direction quick. We all saw last year that long speed isn't important, i.e. Jacques Reeves, we need someone to sit on routes and get picks. BAM.
Texian
04-19-2009, 09:12 PM
actually jenkins would be starting safety or starting #2 corner..and if u go onto ohio state's site...jenkins ran at 4.3 in the 40 for them...combine means nothing....
You really have been sucked in by the OSU HYPE. The combine is the fairest measuring stick of all. Why do you think they go to all the trouble????
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 09:18 PM
trouble? last time i checked...cushing and matthews were the ones...trapped in the 'roids issue...
Texian
04-19-2009, 09:21 PM
trouble? last time i checked...cushing and matthews were the ones...trapped in the 'roids issue...
We will know this week, won't we????? If they're clean Matthews is the guy, if not it will Cushing barring a trade down.
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 09:24 PM
im pretty sure we will get wells/jenkins before even considering matthews/cushing...last time i check we are pretty good on OLB...were we arent in secondary...and Wells would be the best back up for slaton..aswell as incase slaton gets injured..
Texian
04-19-2009, 09:34 PM
last time i check we are pretty good on OLB...were we arent in secondary...and Wells would be the best back up for slaton..aswell as incase slaton gets injured..
Check again, the Texans current starting sam and will LB most likely would not start for any other NFL team. Backups maybe but not starting material. Let's see, coaches love Barber, Ferguson and Harrison. Coaches are so happy with the Safeties they let Brown and Earl walk. They just re-signed Wilson. CBs are set with Dunta and Reeves and Bennett and Molden as the nickle and dime. Front 7 is the weak the link yep you better check again??? While your checking when was the last time Kubiak and Gibbs took a RB in the 1st RD???????
steelbtexan
04-19-2009, 09:54 PM
Check again, the Texans current starting sam and will LB most likely would not start for any other NFL team. Backups maybe but not starting material. Let's see, coaches love Barber, Ferguson and Harrison. Coaches are so happy with the Safeties they let Brown and Earl walk. This just re-signed Wilson. CBs are set with Dunta and Reeves and Bennett and Molden as the nickle and dime. Front 7 is the weak the link yep you better check again??? While your checking when was the last time Kubiak and Gibbs took a RB in the 1st RD???????
Lets not let the facts get in the way of Rages illusions.
I dont get all of the love for Jenkins.
His tape doesn't lie, any time he went up against quality receivers he got burned (can you say Quan Cosby)
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Range's lol....spell my name right...then proceed with the insulting...i know the facts...and Texian just hates ohio state...he is biased...
TheLBCoach
04-19-2009, 10:03 PM
Kubiak and Gibbs had Zero authority when it came to player personnel decisions in Denver. Coordinators and position coaches usually don't.
Kubiak released Demps and Brown in order to make room for a rookie Safety. I am almost sure of it. Our Strong Safeties combined for a total of 0 INTs last season. The Free Safety position was only responsible for 2 INTs.
I think we will draft at least 2 DBs next weekend.
steelbtexan
04-19-2009, 10:04 PM
Boy I feel the Rage
LOL
I like Wells just not for the Texans this year.
I like Laurenitis and cant stand Jenkins.
Are you an Ohio St. fan?
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 10:08 PM
nah i hate college football cause the rules ruin the game.. but when watching gametape of wells and jenkins...they are both pretty impressive...
steelbtexan
04-19-2009, 10:17 PM
I love watghing college football.
I like trying to figure out who I would draft if I were the Texans.
I like the true emotion that you get in college football.
What rules do you dislike?
TexansRage123
04-19-2009, 10:24 PM
i dont like that u can have only one foot inbounds and its still a catch..NFL is harder cause u need both in...making it harder is always better...
steelbtexan
04-19-2009, 10:35 PM
OK
I like how college football stops the clock after first downs.
The NFL will never do this due to TV time constraints.
Texian
04-19-2009, 10:40 PM
Kubiak and Gibbs had Zero authority when it came to player personnel decisions in Denver.
Enlighten us all if you will how you know this to be fact. How much time did you spend in the Denver War Room during draft weekend?????
Texian
04-19-2009, 10:47 PM
Range's lol....spell my name right...then proceed with the insulting...i know the facts...and Texian just hates ohio state...he is biased...
Isn't it past your bedtime??? If you spent as much time on your school work as you do on this message board you would be a straight A student. Nope I'm not a OSU hater but I do see thru their hype. I've explained why I don't think S is a first RD priority. I think Jenkins will be an average Joe. Now next year there could be 3 game changing safties worth a 1st RD pick. That's it, I don't want to get you in trouble for staying up so late on a school nite.
Texian
04-19-2009, 10:51 PM
Out of curiosity I have to ask all of you draft DBs or RBs in the first RD, what do you have against Delmas and Greene or Brown in the 2nd RD? I would think you would love my mock with Delmas and the Doak Walker award winner.
TheLBCoach
04-19-2009, 10:53 PM
I was never in Denver's war room. NFL teams pay General Managers and player personnel guys a lot of money to make those decisions. Mike Shanahan, as the HC, had input because, after all, it is his team. He does receive input from position coaches and Coordinators but he is usually the one that endorses a selection.
It's all a chain of command. When I wanted to recruit a guy last season, guess who I had to show the tape to first? That's right.
Texian
04-19-2009, 11:05 PM
I was never in Denver's war room. NFL teams pay General Managers and player personnel guys a lot of money to make those decisions. Mike Shanahan, as the HC, had input because, after all, it is his team. He does receive input from position coaches and Coordinators but he is usually the one that endorses a selection.
It's all a chain of command. When I wanted to recruit a guy last season, guess who I had to show the tape to first? That's right.
So you really don't know? Kubiak could've very well said, if Portis is there in the 2nd RD we need to to draft him but you really don't know????? Right???? In fact, you have no earthly idea exactly what Kubiak's input was in Denver regarding the draft. Speaking of a BIAS your name DBCoach doesn't in any way reflect on your desire to draft Jenkins, does it?????
Texian
04-19-2009, 11:07 PM
It's all a chain of command. When I wanted to recruit a guy last season, guess who I had to show the tape to first? That's right.
In a way almost afraid to ask but who do you recruit for????
TheLBCoach
04-19-2009, 11:11 PM
I would take Butler over Jenkins at #15.
I already posted my draft in the 'draft competition' thread.
Texian
04-19-2009, 11:13 PM
I would take Butler over Jenkins at #15.
I already posted my draft in the 'draft competition' thread.
What does that have to do with who you recruit for??? Does Blue Bell have a team????
TexansRage123
04-20-2009, 01:56 AM
facts: Held the opposition to 230 yards and no touchdowns on 30 catches of 60 passes targeted into his area (7.67 yards per completion/3.83 yards per pass attempt)...Registered 22 third-down stops, including 18 vs. the pass...Did not allow his main pass coverage assignment to catch any passes in seven contests, as those receivers managed just seven receptions for 66 yards (9.43 yards per completion)
Thats impressive to me for an "ohio state CB" he wont be a safety so stop saying he will be one...
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=56880&draftyear=2009&genpos=CB
Jenkins>davis>butler
DCtex
04-20-2009, 06:11 AM
It's strange if his 40 time was 0.1 faster then everybody would prise him. But now many people think he cant cover because his dash time is 4.5-4.55.
Vinny
04-20-2009, 01:19 PM
It's strange if his 40 time was 0.1 faster then everybody would prise him. But now many people think he cant cover because his dash time is 4.5-4.55.
He isn't an ideal cover corner but he'd make an ideal tampa2 corner since their corners are asked to play a little more like safetys. I think we will be using a ton more tampa2 (cover 3 - middle linebacker playing the deep middle with your CB's facing the QB) so it will be interesting to see if we take him if he falls. If we do, you can bank on us leaning to more of a tampa2 style team. I think we can see that coming together with the signing of June, having smallish front 7 defenders and franchising Dunta. I think Dunta is an ideal tampa2 corner with his hitting ability and physical play.
Coach
04-20-2009, 01:57 PM
the one flaw that denver had throughout the shanahan days was that they could never draft a corner...constantly drafted CB's based on size rather than their ability to fit their scheme...jenkins is actually a horrible fit for the man-coverage we play here...would be great in a zone defense (which is what OSU plays by the way) darius butler would be a lot better for us
Vinny
04-20-2009, 02:02 PM
the one flaw that denver had throughout the shanahan days was that they could never draft a corner...constantly drafted CB's based on size rather than their ability to fit their scheme...jenkins is actually a horrible fit for the man-coverage we play here...would be great in a zone defense (which is what OSU plays by the way) darius butler would be a lot better for usI don't think we play as much man this year based on the direction of the personnel, having Ray Rhodes still on the staff (he was notorious for playing zone 'bend but don't break' defenses that drove his respective fan bases goofy) and although Denver didn't do well in drafting CB's they made a big trade for one of the league's top 2 cornerbacks a few years back so they already had one elite cover corner...Champ Bailey.
TheLBCoach
04-20-2009, 02:08 PM
As Vinny talked about, I can also see a scheme change defensively. If Malcolm Jenkins becomes a Texan he WILL stay at CB...and we will probably see more Tampa 2, or possibly just straight Cover 2.
I'm sick of the talking heads on TV talking about Jenkins being a future FS. As you say, he's a better fit for a team that runs a lot of zone. Therefore, I think he will only be drafted by a scheme-friendly team.
lilbush
04-20-2009, 08:34 PM
the one flaw that denver had throughout the shanahan days was that they could never draft a corner...constantly drafted CB's based on size rather than their ability to fit their scheme...jenkins is actually a horrible fit for the man-coverage we play here...would be great in a zone defense (which is what OSU plays by the way) darius butler would be a lot better for us
Exactly.......I think there are a lot of people on the board that are high on Jenkins because of all the early year hype on the guy. If you watch video Darius Butler is the best fit and in my view the best CB in the draft.
wildroot
04-20-2009, 09:01 PM
I'd love to have him at 15 but I don't think he'll get past 14.
TexansRage123
04-20-2009, 10:26 PM
yeah wildroot i agree...it all depends on what the saints do...and butler isnt better than Jenkins..Jenkins has way better balls skills and is better against the run aswell...watch the tape and ull see...butler is just faster...
wildroot
04-21-2009, 09:01 AM
I saw Jenkins on ESPN last night...the guy is solid, mature, just seems like an all around great guy. He was on with Laurenitis who'd also be nice to have with our 46th pick if he makes it that far. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that somehow Jenkins is still on the board when we pick.
dbruder44
04-21-2009, 09:08 AM
I'd love to have him at 15 but I don't think he'll get past 14.
If Wells goes early to Cincy (Rotoworld) an elite player will fall one spot so I think we will get a shot at Jenkins or a heck of a trade back offer or who ever slipped passed NO. That would be a blessing, maybe someone will pull another Ted Ginn pick out of nowhere too and have the BPA all slip a spot.
outofhnd
04-21-2009, 09:15 AM
On the Butler thing, If we trade back I love his athleticism I know ball skills are important but Butler makes me drool and he is a solid solid tackler I watched a couple U conn games and he stood out in every game because he was flying around the ball.
BehindEnemyLine
04-22-2009, 04:58 PM
i wanna 2nd this idea this jenkins would be my pick and i have the OLB to take in the 3rd or 4th round too. Zack Follet from Cal.
wildroot
04-22-2009, 05:22 PM
If Wells goes early to Cincy (Rotoworld) an elite player will fall one spot so I think we will get a shot at Jenkins or a heck of a trade back offer or who ever slipped passed NO. That would be a blessing, maybe someone will pull another Ted Ginn pick out of nowhere too and have the BPA all slip a spot.
That's what worries me...we get a shot at him and we trade out of the 1st round....AARRGGG!
Everyone in the "know" has him as the highest rated CB in the draft and I'm sure they've all looked at miles and miles of film...that's good enough for me.
dbruder44
04-22-2009, 05:53 PM
We won't make a deal unless it is overly in our favor until we are on the clock, it may be a tentative deal but won't be finalized until NO picks, but If we get two starters plus a back-up for one pick I say do it any day. jenkins is not a once in a lifetime guy.
Hound
04-22-2009, 06:09 PM
I like Jenkins... But I like Darius Butler too... From NFLdraftscout
"Recorded 40 tackles (28 solos) with three stops for losses of 9 yards...Deflected four passes and returned 20 kickoffs for 471 yards (23.5 avg)...On offense, he gained 123 yards with a touchdown on nine receptions (13.7 yards) and 13 yards with a score on two rushing attempts...Led a unit that ranked sixth in the nation in total defense (278.0 ypg) and ninth in both pass defense (168.23 ypg) and passing efficiency defense (101.51 rating)...Did not allow any touchdowns on 43 passes targeted into his area, as his main pass coverage assignments caught just a total of six of those passes for 106 yards, as Butler delivered thirteen third-down stops and one more on forth down vs. the pass."
His guys only caught 6 of 43 passes... So if we could trade down and get Darius Butler and a third round pick... that would be okay with me. You put your favorite 3rd round guy with Darius Butler... and think... would I trade Jenkins for Butler and X... For me the answer is YES. I think two of our biggest needs are contract problem driven... CB and TE. For me I'd be happy with Butler and a third round TE like James Casey of Rice who had over 1300 yds recieving just last year.
houstonsportsfan09
04-22-2009, 06:18 PM
I like Jenkins... But I like Darius Butler too... From NFLdraftscout
"Recorded 40 tackles (28 solos) with three stops for losses of 9 yards...Deflected four passes and returned 20 kickoffs for 471 yards (23.5 avg)...On offense, he gained 123 yards with a touchdown on nine receptions (13.7 yards) and 13 yards with a score on two rushing attempts...Led a unit that ranked sixth in the nation in total defense (278.0 ypg) and ninth in both pass defense (168.23 ypg) and passing efficiency defense (101.51 rating)...Did not allow any touchdowns on 43 passes targeted into his area, as his main pass coverage assignments caught just a total of six of those passes for 106 yards, as Butler delivered thirteen third-down stops and one more on forth down vs. the pass."
His guys only caught 6 of 43 passes... So if we could trade down and get Darius Butler and a third round pick... that would be okay with me. You put your favorite 3rd round guy with Darius Butler... and think... would I trade Jenkins for Butler and X... For me the answer is YES. I think two of our biggest needs are contract problem driven... CB and TE. For me I'd be happy with Butler and a third round TE like James Casey of Rice who had over 1300 yds recieving just last year.
I'm still trying to get a feel for where Butler will be drafted and how far we can drop to get him if we decide to get him. Anyone know his projection?
steelbtexan
04-22-2009, 06:27 PM
We cant trade below New England @ 23 IMO.
One of the Boston papers said that Belichik loves Butler.
Texian
04-22-2009, 06:28 PM
The BEST CB in this draft is Alphonso Smith. If he were 2" taller he would be top 10 pick. If the Texans are trading back.....GO ALPHONSO!!!!!
TexansRage123
04-22-2009, 07:24 PM
Jenkins > Alphonso which is why jenkins won the "Top DB in the country award" so TY..he won't get taller overnight..so WHO CARES...
TheLBCoach
04-22-2009, 08:34 PM
Jenkins > Alphonso which is why jenkins won the "Top DB in the country award" so TY..he won't get taller overnight..so WHO CARES...
Slow down. Alphonso is so good because he prepares extremely well during the week. Jenkins is good as well, and it'd be difficult to name a clear favorite. Trading down to take Alphonso would be a great idea. A lot of ideas I've heard to this point would be beneficial.
Texian
04-22-2009, 09:26 PM
Jenkins > Alphonso which is why jenkins won the "Top DB in the country award" so TY..he won't get taller overnight..so WHO CARES...
If you had taken the time to look at Alphonso's production (stats) you wouldn't be so cavalier. Jenkins isn't even close to what Alphonso has done on the field.
steelbtexan
04-22-2009, 09:35 PM
If you had taken the time to look at Alphonso's production (stats) you wouldn't be so cavalier. Jenkins isn't even close to what Alphonso has done on the field.
Yep
I hope we trade down.
I would be fine with A.Smith or Butler.
Then maybe we could use the extra picks to trade into the top of the 2nd rd. and take Barwin.
TexansRage123
04-22-2009, 09:40 PM
If you had taken the time to look at Alphonso's production (stats) you wouldn't be so cavalier. Jenkins isn't even close to what Alphonso has done on the field.
lol yall keep thinking you know more..ur comparing stats to someone who was in the Big 10 conference...to the ACC conference...Jenkins plays harder opponents....therefore stats don't mean diddly.I could play in worst division and get better stats then Jenkins..wouldn't make me better then him..now would it....so please rethink what u say...
TheLBCoach
04-22-2009, 10:13 PM
lol yall keep thinking you know more..ur comparing stats to someone who was in the Big 10 conference...to the ACC conference...Jenkins plays harder opponents....therefore stats don't mean diddly.I could play in worst division and get better stats then Jenkins..wouldn't make me better then him..now would it....so please rethink what u say...
When comparing things, it's 'than', not 'then'.
When you hear the term '3 Technique', what do you think of? You know, what does that mean....3 Technique?
TexansRage123
04-22-2009, 10:21 PM
a 3 Technique is where the Nose Tackle/DT pushes the Center back towards the QB giving the QB less space...
TheLBCoach
04-22-2009, 10:41 PM
a 3 Technique is where the Nose Tackle/DT pushes the Center back towards the QB giving the QB less space...
A Nose Tackle and a 3-Technique are two different positions. A 3-tech lines up in a certain gap and a NT lines up in a different gap. 3 tech plays the B gap and lines up on the outside shoulder of the guard.
TexansRage123
04-22-2009, 10:48 PM
so in our defense amobi is the 3 technique...right..and T.J is the NT...
Dr. Z
04-22-2009, 10:51 PM
lol yall keep thinking you know more..ur comparing stats to someone who was in the Big 10 conference...to the ACC conference...Jenkins plays harder opponents....therefore stats don't mean diddly.I could play in worst division and get better stats then Jenkins..wouldn't make me better then him..now would it....so please rethink what u say...
I think Alphonso Smith is the better football player IMO. Dont forget the heart and soul of the WF defense wasnt Aaron Curry (a top 5 pick) it was Smith. He is short which didnt hurt him in college so we'll see, but trust me this guy can play some ball.
TheLBCoach
04-22-2009, 10:57 PM
That's right.
wildroot
04-23-2009, 09:46 AM
http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Mock_Drafts/2009_nfl_mock_draft.htm
I'll take this in a heartbeat. Won't even care what happens on day two.
TexansRage123
04-23-2009, 10:35 AM
Jenkins + Evander Hood...I like that....not sure if Ziggy falls that far...hopefully we get him or ron brace...
Coach
04-23-2009, 11:24 AM
the one thing to keep in mind with malcolm jenkins is that with his size and ability he could start off at CB and if he's struggling during training camp they could look at him as a FS...saw some video of him when he was playing FS for Ohio state his junior year (this is actually the position he played when he got all but one of his INTs) and his ball recognition and play recognition is really top notch...his breaks on the ball when it is up in the air reminded me of ed reed actually...i know that's a big thing to say but it really did remind me of an ed reed type player...maybe more rod woodson
BMT TEXAN
04-23-2009, 11:35 AM
I dont care what Texian or anybody say, if Jenkins is available at #15 he will be a TEXAN & he will be a productive/impactful player in the NFL. You gotta respect this guy's skill set to be in ur grasp @15.
GroovyTexan
04-23-2009, 12:04 PM
this is an interesting and constructive debate about the top CBs - but we don't need a top CB currently. We have starters and depth currently and all the CBs except for Jenkins are not clearly better than what we have. In other words, these guys won't have as much of an impact, if any, relative to other players/positions that we can pick with our 1st and 2nd. We need a pass rush and/or run stoppers more than CBs on defense and we need an upgrade at RG and a big RB. This draft has better talent in the pass rush/LB category, guards/centers, and RB than CBs, so I don't see anyway that we could be thinking CB with our first two picks if we trade down. A talent like Jenkins would be picked but I don't see us having Butler or Alphonso Smith as BPA at any pick, unless they fall all the way to our 3rd round pick.
An interesting discussion to me would be what CBs or Ss we are looking at later in the draft and who could have the most impact for us this year or going forward. What does your mid round CB/S draft board look like in other words? This is the most likely spot we will be drafting these positions.
I think Hamlin could come in and compete strongly for the starting SS job and be available in the 4th. He is basicly a four year starter in college and has produced big plays during big games. Who would be a better pick than Hamlin in the 4th?
wildroot
04-23-2009, 01:48 PM
After listening to a few interviews with Jenkins, he sounded mature, stable, a solid citizen and any weakness he has he'll be a sponge listening to his coaches to improve his game. I'll be watching him wherever he goes. That's why I like Quan Cosby as well, older, settled down married with kids, no worries about him hitting the early morning party scene.
Texans Rising
04-23-2009, 09:05 PM
Lets see, is he a corner or is he a safety? WHO CARES, WE NEED BOTH!!!
He's a playmaker, and with that versatility we can play him wherever we need him!
I hope he falls to us, would be a NO BRAINER pick IMO!
Wolf123
04-23-2009, 09:17 PM
I dont care what Texian or anybody say, if Jenkins is available at #15 he will be a TEXAN & he will be a productive/impactful player in the NFL. You gotta respect this guy's skill set to be in ur grasp @15.
I agree and he gives the texans the best chance of getting an impact player. I like both mathews and cushing but I don't see either of them being potential stars.
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