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blake1776
04-19-2009, 11:59 PM
I know it won't happen, but when asked how he can get to the probowl he replied something to the effect of maybe getting the coaches to play him more at LT.

I think he'd protect Schaub better than Brown, He is a beast, he's mean, he's scary looking... I dunno, probably would have happened by now, but there is no telling.

Dr. Z
04-20-2009, 12:22 AM
I've always wondered if they tried him out on the left side. He probably didn't do too well but I'm still curious.

GoldenHolden
04-20-2009, 01:07 AM
Winston is not athletic enough to play LT. He is a big road grader that is taylor made for the RT spot. Speed rushers off the edge would be tough to handle for Winston.

TexansRage123
04-20-2009, 01:39 AM
can he handle mathis/freeney?(i dont like the colts D)..who ever it is on that side....that would say if he can handle a pass rusher...make him practice on mario williams...wouldnt that be good for him.

Low Life
04-20-2009, 02:48 AM
I have to agree with the question but the gator arms tell me no... he's definitely nasty enough but i don't think that the physical attributes say yes. opinions.

justin of doom
04-20-2009, 08:20 AM
I have always been a big Winston supporter. It shocked me to see him struggle against Javon Kearse in that last Titans game (that we won :D)

crazyhorse
04-20-2009, 08:46 AM
First of all don't give me the Mel Kiper B.S. about short arms. At the combine they measure arm length from the shoulder to the finger tips. So if you have lagre hands and long fingers your arm length could be 3 or 4 inches longer than someone else. If you measure arm length from the shoulder to the wrist since everyones hands are bent back to block with you will find that there isn't an inch difference between almost all the tackles in the league.
Second, Eric was a left tackle at Miami and a very good one. Before the knee injury he was rated as a top 5 pick for the draft his junior year. After the injury there was speculation as to whether he would make it back. As a result the Texans got the steal of the century by taking him in the third round.
Third as much as it may have looked , he didn't have a problem with Javon Kearse, his problem was that Shaub was taking the wrong drop. He was suppose to take a three step drop and Eric was to take the end deep. Shaub took a five step drop and as a result Eric took him right to the QB by blocking him deep. Once Shaub corrected his steps Kease was no longer an issue.

GoldenHolden
04-20-2009, 10:14 AM
Third as much as it may have looked , he didn't have a problem with Javon Kearse, his problem was that Shaub was taking the wrong drop. He was suppose to take a three step drop and Eric was to take the end deep. Shaub took a five step drop and as a result Eric took him right to the QB by blocking him deep. Once Shaub corrected his steps Kease was no longer an issue.

What do you have some insider information on the play calls of the Texans? Is this really Eric Winston? Honestly, you don't know that to be true. Winston has trouble against speed, just like most RT's do. That is why they are RT's. Do you really think they Texans wouldn't have put Winston at LT if they thought he could do it?

Coach
04-20-2009, 11:04 AM
why is it when i hear this idea the only imagine that comes to mind is seeing kyle vanden bosch running around him and pile driving schaub into the ground...oh wait that's because he got owned by vanden bosch everytime they played

face it guys...we drafted Duane Brown to be our LT for better or for worse

outofhnd
04-20-2009, 11:31 AM
Winstons arms are fine but his knees are not. He no longer has the footwork needed to be a LT in this league he has enough problems with mathis on the right side.

Why are you hating on Brown 1 season in the last couple of games he looked very solid and his footwork was amazing at the combine. I think he will show a marked improvement this year. I liked the formula of playing him 2 series and resting him one his rookie year, it seemed to get him game experience without completely wearing him down. I think he learned alot of things and hopefully he can translate that into a solid year 2 where he reports in shape and hopefully with a tad bit more bulk. The guy has all the physical attributes to be a Pro Bowl Tackle if he can better use his hands at the initial poinbt of attack .

Vinny
04-20-2009, 12:47 PM
I don't think any team in the league would put Winston at LT. Besides, Winston struggled quite a bit more at RT last season than I figured he would and he needs to get to the next level before he is even a top 5 RT. He struggles getting leverage/low at times on defenders.

Steelersfan1693
04-20-2009, 12:54 PM
Who's Winston again?
:confused::confused:

Vinny
04-20-2009, 01:01 PM
Who's Winston again?
:confused::confused:here is a roster

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.asp

crazyhorse
04-20-2009, 01:23 PM
First of all I think Duane Brown is going to do just fine at LT. After one season he will be a lot stronger and have gained valuable experience both from games and practice.


What do you have some insider information on the play calls of the Texans? Is this really Eric Winston? Honestly, you don't know that to be true. Winston has trouble against speed, just like most RT's do. That is why they are RT's. Do you really think they Texans wouldn't have put Winston at LT if they thought he could do it?

Correction I do know that to be true because the subjuct was discussed with Eric on a Sirius radio interview at the end of last season. Also remember that Charles Spencer was handed the LT position by then O line coach Mike Sherman. Spencer was Sherman's pick.
Winston was a back up to Zack Weagert until he tore his knee up. Even last year at the beginning of the season Kubiak stated that if they felt it necessary they would look at Winston at the LT position. Brown's development allowed them to keep Eric on the right side where he had played two seasons. Moving from RT to LT isn't that easy because everything is backwards in terms of footwork. Doesn't sound like much but at this level a step can make or break a play. easier to have one guy learn a new position rather than teaching one and relearning or reversing the last two years.

Coach
04-20-2009, 01:55 PM
winston is also a guy i'd like to become more of a mauler type RT than he is right now...i think he has the ability to be a top 5 OT in the league for years but he needs to become more aggressive and more consistant in his play

Vinny
04-20-2009, 02:04 PM
winston is also a guy i'd like to become more of a mauler type RT than he is right now...i think he has the ability to be a top 5 OT in the league for years but he needs to become more aggressive and more consistant in his play
I've noticed he has trouble getting low on his blocks at times (his height works as a disadvantage here) and he is especially bad when the run play is on the other side. He struggles to get his block as the RG pulls left in many instances last season. That kills the RB's cut back lane when he doesn't get his block.

blake1776
04-20-2009, 03:20 PM
I do think that Duane B can be awesome, as Jason Peters was a converted TE and he lays some devastating blocks. Brown was laying them out in the run game, if you don't believe me watch the Bears game. We need him to be able to pass protect and hopefully he can use that athleticism to smash people.

outofhnd
04-20-2009, 03:23 PM
Just curious why does this seem to come up every year?

Sic_'Em
04-20-2009, 03:29 PM
While I would grade Brown's performance last year a C-, Winston is NOT the answer.

infantrycak
04-20-2009, 07:10 PM
Correction I do know that to be true because the subjuct was discussed with Eric on a Sirius radio interview at the end of last season.

Sorry, but I am not buying that (a) Schaub repeatedly (one I can see) did not know the drop required for the play he was calling or (b) in the event it did happen, that Winston would call him out on it.

texun
04-21-2009, 09:42 AM
The jury is still out on Brown. If he doesn't show marked improvement this year I think we can lable him another reach for a #1 pick. Eric Winston is one of my favorite players but I don't think he is the answer at LT.

I had the pleasure to shake hands with Winston after last years Monday night game and I was awed by the size of him. It was like me shaking the hand of a 5 year old - his hands are huge. If you watch the mock draft that he and Anderson did with Brook Bentley you realize he has a great future in broadcasting after his playing days.

Coach
04-21-2009, 10:39 AM
I've noticed he has trouble getting low on his blocks at times (his height works as a disadvantage here) and he is especially bad when the run play is on the other side. He struggles to get his block as the RG pulls left in many instances last season. That kills the RB's cut back lane when he doesn't get his block.

i've noticed that as well...i think he just doesn't have that mauler mentality that is prefered in a RT...i also think too often he bends at the hips and not at his knees...whenever he gets beat by a speed rush it's because he's not bending at the knees and stops his feet

lilbush
04-21-2009, 08:19 PM
It always is amazing to hear people blabing about how a guy is a bust after 1 year in the league. These same people were saying the same thing about Mario after year one and no doubt will say the same thing next year about our first round pick. I love people talking football that don't know anything about football..... let me rephrase that......I love people that think they know football because they play madden. Seems we have a few on the board. :rolleyes:

Aztequila
04-21-2009, 11:29 PM
Leave the Caveman where he is at. He is holding down his position. I think Duane Brown can only get better. The Texans let Salaam go, and didn't sign a notable free agent LT, which gives the feeling they like Duane at LT.

texun
04-22-2009, 07:50 AM
It always is amazing to hear people blabing about how a guy is a bust after 1 year in the league. These same people were saying the same thing about Mario after year one and no doubt will say the same thing next year about our first round pick. I love people talking football that don't know anything about football..... let me rephrase that......I love people that think they know football because they play madden. Seems we have a few on the board. :rolleyes:

Read it again kid. Where is the word bust? I said if he doesn't show improvement this year that he could be considered a reach for a 1st round pick. That doesn't mean he is a bust but drafted too high and not worthy of a fisrt round pick - just like Travis Johnson and Jason Babin.

I have never played Madden in my life.

Se7en
04-22-2009, 11:58 AM
I was thinking Schaub could fill in pretty well at Free Safety for next season! He has to read coverages all the time, so he should be good at covering players!

pure_respect
04-22-2009, 12:53 PM
I already have high hopes for Brown since he came into camp at a decent weight and has made several comments about his strength training. At the beginning of last season he did not look very athletic, but he started to improve around W10. This time around he knows what to expect and (not counting potential draft moves) will be facing a less talented group of pass rushers than last year.

Scotty Smalls14
04-22-2009, 04:32 PM
Plus Duane is going up against Mario everyday in practice, which=EXPERIENCE. He'll continue to improve this year and I think he'll be a solid starter for years to come.

blake1776
04-22-2009, 07:37 PM
I would say he is the best run blocker on our team, but he needs work in pass.

lilbush
04-22-2009, 07:47 PM
Read it again kid. Where is the word bust? I said if he doesn't show improvement this year that he could be considered a reach for a 1st round pick. That doesn't mean he is a bust but drafted too high and not worthy of a fisrt round pick - just like Travis Johnson and Jason Babin.

I have never played Madden in my life.


uh.....didn't mention "Texun" anywhere in my post. I guess that means I need to rephrase things a third time....I love it when people take blanket posts personally:rolleyes: I could see if I called you out personally but didn't....Whatever....

thanks for the compliment...I must be the first grey headed "kid" :) Just call me Benjamin Button...

TexansRage123
04-22-2009, 07:52 PM
good point Benjamin Button :p

texun
04-22-2009, 10:48 PM
Sorry ben. I thought you were referring to something else. Having hair is the main issue, you can make it any color you want.

lilbush
04-23-2009, 09:28 PM
no prob man.......its all this draft craziness that has us all wacky :)

Just think ....hopefully this weekend after the best draft in Texan history (fingers crossed) we will all be estatic.