Sign D-Rob, OD, and Ryans!!!

[TexansNutt]

It would be nice if we could sign our key guys before the draft. I would really like to keep our guys and know for sure that they're gonna be here. They helped us get to where we are and I'd like them to be with us when we get to where we're gonna go. If not we should move D Rob on draft day and lock up the other 2.

[houstonsportsfan09]

It would be nice if we could sign our key guys before the draft. I would really like to keep our guys and know for sure that they're gonna be here. They helped us get to where we are and I'd like them to be with us when we get to where we're gonna go. If not we should move D Rob on draft day and lock up the other 2.

You really think thats likely with the draft in less than 48 hours? Thats probably the last thing on Smith's mind right now. I'd say before the season's starts. As for Dunta, as some have mentioned, I would consider trading him before/if he walks next year and we get nothing for him. Though there is still a chance we could sign him long term. Likely? I dont know, he already turned down top 5 to top 10 money I believe.

[TexansRage123]

DeMeco needs to be signed the most..then OD...Dunta the least. Dunta is foolish for thinking he deserves top 5 corner money...he is no where near...nnamdi asomugha/champ bailey/asante samuel.

[TexansNutt]

I agree. I think we need to get something forhim. Thats why I want to either sign him or trade him. Too many times I've seen ths orginization let guys walk with no compensation.

[GoldenHolden]

The Texans are concentrating on the draft right now. No contracts will be signed any time soon. Don't worry though, I expect Demeco and OD to be signed by the time camp starts. Dunta will probobly have to show he is back to his original self next season to get a deal. If he doesn't want to be here, the Texans will franchise him and trade him next offseason.

[johndoe]

I highly doubt that we are going to be able to sign all 3 this year. IMO, like others have stated, signing Demeco and Owen should be top priority. Dunta needs to come down to earth. We may end up franchising him next year too, wouldnt that be funny?

[1337texansfan]

OD and ryans will most likely have new contract by training camp.

as for dunta, if he really feels that he should be paid like a top corner. then he needs to take this one year worth of paychecks that is paying him on average what a top 5 corner makes. prove that he will be worth that echelon of salary for his position. i do not think the texans have a problem paying him that kind of money if he is playing like a corner who should be paid that much. it is just a matter of value, and the texans are making sure they are getting the right value.

[TexHorns]

I only have one concern, Dunta is the leader of our secondary and that vetran leadership cannot be replaced by just anyone. Do yall remember how the defense looked while he was out. The younger players need to have someone to model after and he brings intensity and a natural competetive nature to the backfield. IMO it would not be wise to try to replace him with a rookie.

[chjoak]

I want to see OD & Ryans signed asap. Personally I don't want to see Dunta ever play another down for the Texans. I would rather trade him for picks and sign an inexpensive stop gap (don't know who is still available Springs, McCallister?) until Molden or a rookie can step up.

[houstonsportsfan09]

I only have one concern, Dunta is the leader of our secondary and that vetran leadership cannot be replaced by just anyone. Do yall remember how the defense looked while he was out. The younger players need to have someone to model after and he brings intensity and a natural competetive nature to the backfield. IMO it would not be wise to try to replace him with a rookie.


He's "modeling" them on the field, but sure not off.

[Whiskeyrbl]

I have always been a Dunta fan. However I get the feeling he just does not want to be here. So if it were possible I would consider trading him to Detroit. Ha how would he like that. Trade him to Detroit plus our 7th rd . pick , Swap 1st rd picks, #15 and 20. Then aquire Detroits 2nd and 5th, swap 3rd rd picks and get next years 3rd rd. from Detroit. Probably not even a thought but would be nice.
Texans would have
1st rd. #20
2nd rd. #33 and #46
3rd rd. # 65
4th rd. # 112, and #122
5th rd. #137, and #152
6th rd. #188

Detroit would have Dunta,
1st rd #1 and #15
3rd rd #77 and # 82
6th rd #174 and #192
7th rd. #223
After the draft sign Demeco and OD to long term contracts.
Ok y'all can destroy it. People can dream huh?

[houstonsportsfan09]

I have always been a Dunta fan. However I get the feeling he just does not want to be here. So if it were possible I would consider trading him to Detroit. Ha how would he like that. Trade him to Detroit plus our 7th rd . pick , Swap 1st rd picks, #15 and 20. Then aquire Detroits 2nd and 5th, swap 3rd rd picks and get next years 3rd rd. from Detroit. Probably not even a thought but would be nice.
Texans would have
1st rd. #20
2nd rd. #33 and #46
3rd rd. # 65
4th rd. # 112, and #122
5th rd. #137, and #152
6th rd. #188

Detroit would have Dunta,
1st rd #1 and #15
3rd rd #77 and # 82
6th rd #174 and #192
7th rd. #223
After the draft sign Demeco and OD to long term contracts.
Ok y'all can destroy it. People can dream huh?

Thats some pretty good dreaming right there :) Wouldn't mind seeing this happen at all!

[dbruder44]

DeMeco needs to be signed the most..then OD...Dunta the least. Dunta is foolish for thinking he deserves top 5 corner money...he is no where near...nnamdi asomugha/champ bailey/asante samuel.

Demeco alledgedly turned down top 5 money too......

[anmarc542]

How will the CBA affect negotiations? If we hit the uncapped year neither OD nor Demeco will be UFA's b/c they will not have 6 years accrued service at that point. Could play into things.

[chjoak]

Demeco alledgedly turned down top 5 money too......

And then he fired his agent. Maybe it was not Ryans that turned down the contract but instead a greedy agent?

[dbruder44]

And then he fired his agent. Maybe it was not Ryans that turned down the contract but instead a greedy agent?

We will see they should present the same offer to him again then...... I hope that is the case that it was greed having his agent pushing him to decline it.

[TEXANBRONCO]

1st off :D i love all 3 of these guys. BUT, 2 of the 3 are making the TEAM and the FRONT OFFICE look bad right now. i say sign OD 4ever:D then, trade DUNTA and DEMECO while we can...seems they really are about (BREAKING THE BANK) instead of playin football and honoring their contracts. who in the world wants people on the team, if they dont honor their contracts? ITS ABOUT GREED..in a poor mans world.....trying to hold our whole team and the front office in a HOSTAGE TYPE SITUATION, where we have to give them what they want....OR ELSE?................TRADE MEEE ya see we just cannot allow this type of (ATTITUDE /BEHAVIOR) to exist. PERIOD.

[wildroot]

We need to get these three bedded down, I'd hate to have to fill 3 more holes.

[zanth91]

The Texans are waiting until after the draft. They want to know what kind of money they'll be spending on their draft picks so that they know how much money they have to work with for Demeco D-Rob and OD.

[outofhnd]

Nothing will get done till possibly training camp. I have faith they will get all three signed before preseason.

We need them all we cant afford to take a step back just because our corner wants a phat contract. do you wanna see another .500 season again then by all means let Dunta walk. Atleast we can get Taylor Mays next year.

[TexansRage123]

Demeco allegedly turned down top 5 money too......

yeah i don't get that either..Thats Like saying DeMeco is as good as Urlacher,Willis, Ray Lewis, Tatupu....Only reason Demeco stands out so much is cause he doesn't have anyone else around him doing anything except Mario. Urlacher has briggs, Tommie harris and ogunleye. lewis has suggs, ed reed, and that D-line. Tatupu has kerney, and trufant. and had julian peterson.

[3andOUT]

yeah i don't get that either..Thats Like saying DeMeco is as good as Urlacher,Willis, Ray Lewis, Tatupu....Only reason Demeco stands out so much is cause he doesn't have anyone else around him doing anything except Mario. Urlacher has briggs, Tommie harris and ogunleye. lewis has suggs, ed reed, and that D-line. Tatupu has kerney, and trufant. and had julian peterson.

Demeco also just fired his agent, and I can't help but believe that it was partly due to the way he handled negotiations with the team. Demeco and the team will come to terms after the draft....same for OD. Dunta on the other hand can stick it. He's my absolute favorite Texan, but I would rather ship him then have him try and hold the team hostage.....it's just business. You have to know the franchise tag could and most likely would be used if you didn't come to terms. I do hope they work something out with 23, but I just don't see him sticking around.

[Smutdog]

DeMeco needs to be signed the most..then OD...Dunta the least. Dunta is foolish for thinking he deserves top 5 corner money...he is no where near...nnamdi asomugha/champ bailey/asante samuel.

While I agree that Dunta is not a top 5 CB, neither is Champ Bailey..... Champ was awful last year I wouldn't even put him in the top 10.
He's not the player he used to be, teams now throw at him because he has lost a step.

[Dominator52]

Demeco also just fired his agent, and I can't help but believe that it was partly due to the way he handled negotiations with the team. Demeco and the team will come to terms after the draft....same for OD. Dunta on the other hand can stick it. He's my absolute favorite Texan, but I would rather ship him then have him try and hold the team hostage.....it's just business. You have to know the franchise tag could and most likely would be used if you didn't come to terms. I do hope they work something out with 23, but I just don't see him sticking around.

Well he's here for one more year unless he is used for trade bait on Saturday.

[da sheetz]

It would be nice if we could sign our key guys before the draft. I would really like to keep our guys and know for sure that they're gonna be here.THEY HELPED US GET TO WHERE WE ARE and I'd like them to be with us when we get to where we're gonna go. If not we should move D Rob on draft day and lock up the other 2.


And where exactly are we another 8-8 season? Dunta can suck a big fat one and meco needs to sign a deal. I dont care for Dunta much anymore after he refused top CB money he's a greedy whiny little baby and we dont need him on our team. We can fill his shoes by a number of guys coming out in this draft round 1 we will take a corner imo to stick it to em and make him earn his money and his job or he can take his broke knee *** to some other team and whine about 10 mil.

[trutexan02]

I agree. I think we need to get something forhim. Thats why I want to either sign him or trade him. Too many times I've seen ths orginization let guys walk with no compensation.

Let's be realistic here though. We haven't let someone walk and then they blow up and become superstars. I'd say the closest that has ever come to happening was that one linebacker we let walk that went to San Diego, made the Pro Bowl "snubs list", then disappeared from their defense (injury I think) I think his name was Steve Foley.

[Se7en]

The Texans are waiting until after the draft. They want to know what kind of money they'll be spending on their draft picks so that they know how much money they have to work with for Demeco D-Rob and OD.

They also need to wait and see what players they have available when it comes time to pick. If we have a few stud Corners to pick from I wouldn't be shocked to see them look to move Dunta. If not this year then next.

I was also one of the biggest Dunta fans on this board and I am now pushed well past defending him. I do not get the impression that he really wants to be in Houston because he thought he had the ability to leave when Rick said he "would not franchise tag him." You all saw how pissed he got when he found out he couldn't leave to surf the market when we tagged him! HE WANTS OUT! :(

[footballfan412]

They also need to wait and see what players they have available when it comes time to pick. If we have a few stud Corners to pick from I wouldn't be shocked to see them look to move Dunta. If not this year then next.

I was also one of the biggest Dunta fans on this board and I am now pushed well past defending him. I do not get the impression that he really wants to be in Houston because he thought he had the ability to leave when Rick said he "would not franchise tag him." You all saw how pissed he got when he found out he couldn't leave to surf the market when we tagged him! HE WANTS OUT! :(

Yep. That's what I've been saying about Dunta all along: He no longer wants to play here. He wants to go to a team that is going to bring him a ring sooner rather than later. I respect that, but man up and admit it.

Dunta thinks he's too good for this team. Ok, I say let him walk and find a team that he thinks is good enough for his skills. I'll tell you this much: NO other team will offer him $23 million guaranteed.

[footballfan412]

Nothing will get done till possibly training camp. I have faith they will get all three signed before preseason.

We need them all we cant afford to take a step back just because our corner wants a phat contract. do you wanna see another .500 season again then by all means let Dunta walk. Atleast we can get Taylor Mays next year.

Your reasoning is off base. You are assuming that Dunta will get us above .500. But don't forget that Dunta is still coming off a major injury and that the jury is still out on productivity.

I like Dunta (or used to) but his attitude is: "If I have to play for this mediocre team, then I better be getting TOP money."

He thinks he is doing us a favor by playing for us.

[Vinny]

It is perfectly normal to have some of your most marketable players not signed at this point in any season (guys in their same contractual situations across the league). What hasn't been normal till now is the fact that we haven't had all that many players who could play just about anywhere else in the league. In the past the players had no leverage since we were a team short on talent across the board. We are more of a normal team with its share of marketable players now so we will see more of this going forward. Try not to dog the players trying to get their piece of the pie when they have some leverage. It's not like the teams are going to come pay them extra when they out produce their contracts. Careers are short.

[outofhnd]

Your reasoning is off base. You are assuming that Dunta will get us above .500. But don't forget that Dunta is still coming off a major injury and that the jury is still out on productivity.

I like Dunta (or used to) but his attitude is: "If I have to play for this mediocre team, then I better be getting TOP money."

He thinks he is doing us a favor by playing for us.

With him we are atleast an 8-8 team with atleast one solid starter DB close to pro bowl when healthy. You wanna get rid of that for possibly a bust on day 1 and Bennett, Molden, Reeves combo? Dunta is better than those 3 so it would be better for the team and a potential winning record to have a veteran and proven cover corner in the NFL then what we are left with scoring points with a great offense means nothuing if we cant turn around and stop them

[SAMRAJ95]

DEAR TEXANS NATION:
In my honest opinion, the way i see it, D-ROB busted his backside to come back from a career threatening KNEE AND HAMSTRING INJURY. D-ROB said all the right things and showed himself to be determined to come back, and help the TEXANS make it to the PLAYOFFS. I cannot believe how so many of you are so quick to just show him the door, when he came back. He was interviewed by our Houston Chronicle, and talked about how he was happy and blessed to receive 10Million dollars-1yr. TENDER.
While he preferred to have received a long-term deal with the HOUSTON TEXANS, he was up set that he was franchised when all indications were that GM Rick Smith would not franchise him. You know, even before Mario & DeMeco were TEXANS, D-ROB continued to be a hard worker, and leader on a very porous defense and secondary.
That being said, D-ROB did his job covering the man that lined up in front of him, and was not Petey Faggins-giving up big-play-after-big play, and being consistently burned in man and zone coverages. Face it, NFL opponents simply threw the ball opposite side of D-ROB. D-ROB plays like every play is his last, plays with intensity, plays physical and is not afraid to get in there and hit somebody and wants to be a HOUSTON TEXAN.
I just feel that if the TEXANS quickly deal him away, or refuse to sign him to a long-term deal that reflects what he has done for this team-The TEXANS OWNERSHIP and FRONT OFFICE & MANAGEMENT send a dangerous message that they don't take care of their players, and it is overall bad for business, as well as attracting NFL-FREE AGENTS down the road. Consistently GREAT PLAYOFF TEAMS, CONSISTENTLY GREAT SUPER BOWL CHAMPION TEAMS, surround themselves with well drafted talent, develop their drafted talent, and retain their drafted talent. CASE IN POINT: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, Andre Johnson, Eric Winston. The TEXANS MUST take care of their own players who show up and work hard every day and play. D-ROB's presence and leadership qualities are huge for this team's development in their DEFENSIVE IDENTITY. The players in the locker room respect D-ROB, and respond to his example. I hope that D-ROB has a BANNER PRO-BOWL YEAR, and we win the SUPER-BOWL, and he gets his long-term deal.
I am convinced that he deserves it.
LETS GO TEXANS!!

[Whiskeyrbl]

DEAR TEXANS NATION:
In my honest opinion, the way i see it, D-ROB busted his backside to come back from a career threatening KNEE AND HAMSTRING INJURY. D-ROB said all the right things and showed himself to be determined to come back, and help the TEXANS make it to the PLAYOFFS. I cannot believe how so many of you are so quick to just show him the door, when he came back. He was interviewed by our Houston Chronicle, and talked about how he was happy and blessed to receive 10Million dollars-1yr. TENDER.
While he preferred to have received a long-term deal with the HOUSTON TEXANS, he was up set that he was franchised when all indications were that GM Rick Smith would not franchise him. You know, even before Mario & DeMeco were TEXANS, D-ROB continued to be a hard worker, and leader on a very porous defense and secondary.
That being said, D-ROB did his job covering the man that lined up in front of him, and was not Petey Faggins-giving up big-play-after-big play, and being consistently burned in man and zone coverages. Face it, NFL opponents simply threw the ball opposite side of D-ROB. D-ROB plays like every play is his last, plays with intensity, plays physical and is not afraid to get in there and hit somebody and wants to be a HOUSTON TEXAN.
I just feel that if the TEXANS quickly deal him away, or refuse to sign him to a long-term deal that reflects what he has done for this team-The TEXANS OWNERSHIP and FRONT OFFICE & MANAGEMENT send a dangerous message that they don't take care of their players, and it is overall bad for business, as well as attracting NFL-FREE AGENTS down the road. Consistently GREAT PLAYOFF TEAMS, CONSISTENTLY GREAT SUPER BOWL CHAMPION TEAMS, surround themselves with well drafted talent, develop their drafted talent, and retain their drafted talent. CASE IN POINT: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, Andre Johnson, Eric Winston. The TEXANS MUST take care of their own players who show up and work hard every day and play. D-ROB's presence and leadership qualities are huge for this team's development in their DEFENSIVE IDENTITY. The players in the locker room respect D-ROB, and respond to his example. I hope that D-ROB has a BANNER PRO-BOWL YEAR, and we win the SUPER-BOWL, and he gets his long-term deal.
I am convinced that he deserves it.
LETS GO TEXANS!!

OK 1 more time they offered him top 5 money with I believe it was $23 million guaranteed and he said NO!! Not the Texans but Him. To me that was a very fair offer especially since he even openly admitted was not back to 100%. What more should they have done? They offered a good contract and he turned it down.

[footballfan412]

It is perfectly normal to have some of your most marketable players not signed at this point in any season (guys in their same contractual situations across the league). What hasn't been normal till now is the fact that we haven't had all that many players who could play just about anywhere else in the league. In the past the players had no leverage since we were a team short on talent across the board. We are more of a normal team with its share of marketable players now so we will see more of this going forward. Try not to dog the players trying to get their piece of the pie when they have some leverage. It's not like the teams are going to come pay them extra when they out produce their contracts. Careers are short.

No one is trying to fault players for trying to get paid. And, actually, it's a good sign for our team that we have players doing this, because it means that we're moving on up.


However, some players need to keep things in perspective. Demeco? Yep, I get why he's holding out. Owen? Get it? Dunta? Hell no. And, as I said, I like Dunta, but come on.

[footballfan412]

DEAR TEXANS NATION:
In my honest opinion, the way i see it, D-ROB busted his backside to come back from a career threatening KNEE AND HAMSTRING INJURY. D-ROB said all the right things and showed himself to be determined to come back, and help the TEXANS make it to the PLAYOFFS. I cannot believe how so many of you are so quick to just show him the door, when he came back. He was interviewed by our Houston Chronicle, and talked about how he was happy and blessed to receive 10Million dollars-1yr. TENDER.
While he preferred to have received a long-term deal with the HOUSTON TEXANS, he was up set that he was franchised when all indications were that GM Rick Smith would not franchise him. You know, even before Mario & DeMeco were TEXANS, D-ROB continued to be a hard worker, and leader on a very porous defense and secondary.
That being said, D-ROB did his job covering the man that lined up in front of him, and was not Petey Faggins-giving up big-play-after-big play, and being consistently burned in man and zone coverages. Face it, NFL opponents simply threw the ball opposite side of D-ROB. D-ROB plays like every play is his last, plays with intensity, plays physical and is not afraid to get in there and hit somebody and wants to be a HOUSTON TEXAN.
I just feel that if the TEXANS quickly deal him away, or refuse to sign him to a long-term deal that reflects what he has done for this team-The TEXANS OWNERSHIP and FRONT OFFICE & MANAGEMENT send a dangerous message that they don't take care of their players, and it is overall bad for business, as well as attracting NFL-FREE AGENTS down the road. Consistently GREAT PLAYOFF TEAMS, CONSISTENTLY GREAT SUPER BOWL CHAMPION TEAMS, surround themselves with well drafted talent, develop their drafted talent, and retain their drafted talent. CASE IN POINT: Mario Williams, DeMeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, Andre Johnson, Eric Winston. The TEXANS MUST take care of their own players who show up and work hard every day and play. D-ROB's presence and leadership qualities are huge for this team's development in their DEFENSIVE IDENTITY. The players in the locker room respect D-ROB, and respond to his example. I hope that D-ROB has a BANNER PRO-BOWL YEAR, and we win the SUPER-BOWL, and he gets his long-term deal.
I am convinced that he deserves it.
LETS GO TEXANS!!


I call bs on this entire message. No offense, but what are you smoking?

Dunta doesn't want to play here. And I'm tired of the argument that we will collapse without him.


What is it about $23 MILLION GUARANTEED that you don't get.


Repeat: $23 MILLION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do you consider that chump change? I don't. And most NFL players don't.

[TexansRage123]

dunta just thinks he is a great CB which he isnt...he needs to just fold and take the best offer he can get. No one is gonna pay him top corner money if he wants that he might aswell just retire...

[da sheetz]

Yeah he brings this and he brings that, but he is not ELITE!!! no matter how you look at it it was a slap in the face and an indication he doesnt want to be here when h rejected the 23 mil grtd......... football is a TEAM!! sport not a one many show lets see how the great DUNTA does when he has no TEAM. Hes a punk he just wants to MAKE IT RAIN like all the other punk as$ mo fos out there....... ie. Pacman

[TEXANBRONCO]

the bottom line here, is that 2 leaders on the team,(WHO THINK THEY CANT BE REPLACED) are trying to hold guns on the FRONT OFFICE. WE WANT THIS AND WE WANT THAT....crybabies.... whos actions are making alot of people, scratchin their heads, wondering how much $ is really enough? AND what are we going to do when EVERY1 does what these 2 bozos are trying to do. WHEN DOES IT STOP......the truth is......we have to stop this crap right now. we cant allow any player to dictate or make DEMANDS....if you allow that to happen 1 single time..........IT WILL HAPPEN ALL THE TIME......and thats the bottom line....BECAUSE I SAID SO

[gtal98]

You guys keep talking like these three guys won't be here this year if we don't get them signed, but that is not the case. Ryans and Daniels are both under contract through this year, and OD got a nice raise in the highest RFA tender. I get why they're starting their contract extension campaign now, but they will both be playing for the Texans in 09. No way either one of those guys holds out.

DRob on the other hand has still not signed his Franchise Tender (AFAIK), which means that we can't even trade him on Draft day because he is not under contract with us yet. So he is hurting us, and himself, if he wants to get traded out of here by not signing that offer. So unless he is traded during camp this year, he will either play for us, or nobody this year.

[Vinny]

No one is trying to fault players for trying to get paid. And, actually, it's a good sign for our team that we have players doing this, because it means that we're moving on up.


However, some players need to keep things in perspective. Demeco? Yep, I get why he's holding out. Owen? Get it? Dunta? Hell no. And, as I said, I like Dunta, but come on.Dunta isn't on a contract so this isn't a holdout. He has been tendered an offer for one year via the franchise designation but until he signs it and doesn't come in he really isn't a holdout. It's still April so there is a long way to go before this is problematic on any level.