Day 2 thread

[Neo]

Jets move up to take Shonn Greene. That will disappoint a few Texans fans.

[Wolf123]

Yea, I'm didn't like his athletism.

[fdknuckles]

I think the Texas will address power back in the 4th or 5th with the RB from Colorado state Gartrell Johnson

[BMT TEXAN]

I think the Texas will address power back in the 4th or 5th with the RB from Colorado state Gartrell Johnson

Been saying this for awhile now & it looks more-n-more realistic. I hope we really do get this guy. Remember fellas, its not bout names on 2nd day, its all bout the fit. Who is the best fit for our football team in these later rnds.:cool:

[Neo]

Rashad Johnson may be there when we pick

[B.Diddy]

I hope Sanchez Starts the first game lol but the thing that scares me about shonne Greene is he reminds me alot of maurice Jones Drew when he was in college short low center of gravity built like a tree stump

[johndoe]

If rashad johnson and and andre brown are both available when we pick, I think we go Brown

[TransplantTexan1]

The knock with Greene is that he isn't a particularly good receiver out of the backfield. I like his size, though, and he looks very much like a pure running back (think a more svelte version of Ron Dane).

[Neo]

Ron Dane
I want to vomit now, thanks for brining up that name.

[johndoe]

The knock with Greene is that he isn't a particularly good receiver out of the backfield. I like his size, though, and he looks very much like a pure running back (think a more svelte version of Ron Dane).

Hmm im not sure about that...

the guy is big and fast. he ran the 40 really well at his pro-day

[Wolf123]

So does charles spencer!

[theyoungNwild]

I think the Texas will address power back in the 4th or 5th with the RB from Colorado state Gartrell Johnson

God I hope not! Jennings and Andre Brown are way better than Gartrell. He is slow and has been falling in draft boards more and more each day. The only way we dont pick a RB this round is if Rashad Johnson falls to us...and we might even do it with him there.

Look for Andre Brown here

[johndoe]

God I hope not! Jennings and Andre Brown are way better than Gartrell. He is slow and has been falling in draft boards more and more each day. The only way we dont pick a RB this round is if Rashad Johnson falls to us...and we might even do it with him there.

Look for Andre Brown here

my thoughts exactly!

[Supercrewzin01]

I wonder if anyone will take S. McGhee from A&M?

[Neo]

i think our next 3 picks are rb, db, c/og in no particular order.

[theyoungNwild]

Hopefully we do or Sam Houston's Rhett Bomar. He did great things for us this year

[johndoe]

I think we take a RB here and 2 DB's in the 4th...

[theyoungNwild]

If we take Andre Brown here, I would love to pick up Donald Washington outta OSU and Terrance Taylor the DT outta Michigan.

If we get Rashad Johnson here, I wouldn't mind one of the previous people I just mentioned and Rashand Jennings

[Boz]

Looking good for Rashad. I imagine him as Demeco at Safety.

[fdknuckles]

looks like we should have a shot at jennings, johnson or brown

[theyoungNwild]

Lets hope the Cowgirls dont take Johnson, they need a Saftey

[Vinny]

I'd like to thank the fans yesterday....you guys were great and well behaved. Kudos to everyone.

[Neo]

rashad johnson or andre brown?

[theyoungNwild]

Go Rashad Johnson!

Go Andre Brown!

Either one is fine!

[Wolf123]

both would be great picks, I wonder about TE though

[theyoungNwild]

We should trade next years 3rd and a 4th to get SD pick after us!

[theyoungNwild]

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[fdknuckles]

It's a center?

[Wolf123]

good player just not the two players all of us wanted

[Sprtsfanatic]

wow, caldwell....I was thinking rashad or andre here...anybody have anything on caldwell??

[fdknuckles]

They must not think to highly of Brown or Johnson

[theyoungNwild]

Now I just pray Andre Brown falls to 4th but he wont, looks like we might get Rashad Jennings instead. See you kids in 2 hours haha.

[Neo]

not a surprise pick to me, with taking 2 defense players in the first rounds. Biggest weakness on offense was the interior lineman not named Pitts.

[Jack Texan]

Nice pick. O-line, D-line wins championships. I show Caldwell to be the number 2 center in this draft; and he can play guard too. He,s big, strong: 6-3 1/2, 307 lbs.

[fdknuckles]

From what I've read, he's a good run blocking center that isn't used to pulling traps

[TK_Gamer]

well I wanted them to upgrade C, most of the sacks we gave up late in the year were right up the middle (C,RG) I'm just surprised they passed up Brown. I like the pick though. we seriously need one of the 4th round picks to be a big corner or safety because the selection is gonna start getting really thin after this round. The good news is there are still several good power backs availible as late as the 6th round.

[fdknuckles]

So far, we haven't gone for the high profile players, but all appear to be blue collar guys

[Neo]

looks like we started a run on interior O lineman

[Wolf123]

looks like we started a run on interior O lineman

Yea texans were very smart to get him there, and looks like they stole him from a few teams. I look for CB and RB in the fourth.

[Sprtsfanatic]

ok so now that we have a big center, what are our most pressing needs? I think its still complimentary back and safety. I thought we were going to select one of those two in round 3 but didnt work out that way...who do you think will still be available in round 4??

[PMSTRIKER]

james davis and jennings sound nice

[Cheroqui]

Is it me or do we keep getting commercial breaks when we are on the clock for our picks?

[Sic_'Em]

dont look now, but there are some good TEs left in the draft...just dont be surprised if we grab one

[Schlauton]

We got two picks in the 4th, and we need RB and DB, I wonder who we are going to pick?????:):)

[peldon]

Is it me or do we keep getting commercial breaks when we are on the clock for our picks?

Seems to happen every draft for almost every one of our picks. Only one I can remember where that didn't happen is when we picked Mario.

[Wolf123]

dont look now, but there are some good TEs left in the draft...just dont be surprised if we grab one

I expect a run on them very soon

[Sprtsfanatic]

Is it me or do we keep getting commercial breaks when we are on the clock for our picks?

No its not just you...they skip over us everytime. Hell even with our first two picks they didnt get any face/tv time after they got selected and Cushing was in the green room and Barwin had a camera crew there with his grandmother....its sad really. Yet they showed everyone else getting the call and being selected....pisses me off royaly

[Boz]

We got two picks in the 4th, and we need RB and DB, I wonder who we are going to pick?????:):)

At this point I'm going to guess ..... somebody none of us expect, ahead of his projected board value that plays a position we're pretty strong at.

[Yosarian]

At this point I'm going to guess ..... somebody none of us expect, ahead of his projected board value that plays a position we're pretty strong at.
sounds right to me

Good one!:D

[Soton_Texan]

Video on NFL.com regarding Caldwell is pretty good--shows the FO made a pretty wise choice taking him there.

[wildroot]

Nice pick. O-line, D-line wins championships. I show Caldwell to be the number 2 center in this draft; and he can play guard too. He,s big, strong: 6-3 1/2, 307 lbs.

2nd in a group containing Unger, Wood, Mack and Shipley?!?

[Schlauton]

Did you see that, 4 WR's in a row, and most of them have "return" ability, haha.

People want themselves some sweet return desserts:)

[Sportswriter79]

ok so now that we have a big center, what are our most pressing needs? I think its still complimentary back and safety. I thought we were going to select one of those two in round 3 but didnt work out that way...who do you think will still be available in round 4??

He is a little heavier than Myers according to the stats, but not much.

Myers: 6'4", 294 lbs
Caldwell: 6'3", 309 lbs

I wonder if there is any chance that they see him playing guard as well?

[wildroot]

We got two picks in the 4th, and we need RB and DB, I wonder who we are going to pick?????:):)

Probably anything but a RB or DB. maybe we'll grab one of these punters they keep flashing on the tube...

[Yosarian]

2nd in a group containing Unger, Wood, Mack and Shipley?!?


Orly?

No way he's at 2. I agree with you there. Wood looked like a beast with an attitude. And i had him at number 1 but he got picked second for centers

[johndoe]

RB's that could be available in the 4th:

Cedric Peerman
Javon Ringer
Andre Brown
Kory Sheets
James Davis
Gartrell Johnson

[BehindEnemyLine]

if hes still there i really like the hb out of liberty but after a corner and maybe after a safety

[Whiskeyrbl]

What a run on WR's

[Cheroqui]

No its not just you...they skip over us everytime. Hell even with our first two picks they didnt get any face/tv time after they got selected and Cushing was in the green room and Barwin had a camera crew there with his grandmother....its sad really. Yet they showed everyone else getting the call and being selected....pisses me off royaly

No respect.

Hey Peldon is that a picture of your feral cat? Lol!

[Jack Texan]

2nd in a group containing Unger, Wood, Mack and Shipley?!?

Sporting News ranked him as # 2. Most other checking I did had him ranked 4th or 5th overall. Couple others ranked him higher, and as a guard.

[Wolf123]

He is a little heavier than Myers according to the stats, but not much.

Myers: 6'4", 294 lbs
Caldwell: 6'3", 309 lbs

I wonder if there is any chance that they see him playing guard as well?

Yea he'll be the swing player at the interior line.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Sporting News ranked him as # 2. Most other checking I did had him ranked 4th or 5th overall. Couple others ranked him higher, and as a guard.

Thats impressive.

[Yosarian]

Get your wide outs. Get your wide outs here
Get em while they'rehot.

Wide outs !

lol

[Jack Texan]

This run on WR's is fine with me. Just stay away from the RB's.

[Yosarian]

Sporting News ranked him as # 2. Most other checking I did had him ranked 4th or 5th overall. Couple others ranked him higher, and as a guard.


wOW!

[Yosarian]

wHY IS dj mOoRE STILL ON THE BOARD?:confused:

[Yosarian]

Raiders pick the fastest guys available and the titans pick the biggest guys available.

[Schlauton]

Raiders pick the fastest guys available and the titans pick the biggest guys available.

hahaha, titans will be the slowest team in the nfl, in the next 3 yrs.

Maybe Raiders are just gonna try and do something like the Music City Miracle every play, with a bunch of REALLY fast guys, they would just be running everywhere, tossing it back and forth.:p

[Yosarian]

Anyone on the DJ Moore- cb?
Did he shoot himself in a new york nightclub or stab anyone?

I thought he was ranked to be 3rd round or bottom of the second...here we are almost to the 4h with a ton of CB's taken ahead of him?

What don't i know about this guy?

[wildroot]

Raiders pick the fastest guys available and the titans pick the biggest guys available.

Speaking of the Raiders....Michael Mitchell in the 2nd ?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Yosarian]

looks like the cb run has begun

[Schlauton]

looks like the cb run has begun

Not a CB run, but a CB every other pick run, haha.

And another CB taken after a non-CB, haha.

[CoogBull]

Get your wide outs. Get your wide outs here
Get em while they'rehot.

Wide outs !

lol

Lol that is what it is looking like. Last year no one wanted one. With the weakness of this draft in other positions it seems like time to add a guy to catch passes.

[Schlauton]

Steelers are next, and guess what they need.....CB, this draft is HILARIOUS.

[johndoe]

Well my boy Rashad Johnson is gone. Good luck to him...

[Yosarian]

rats, there goes a decent safety

[Yosarian]

do the Giants and Patriots really need compensatory picks?

I dont think so.

[Schlauton]

But they lost players, you always need compensatory for lost players.

Did the Giants get any picks for Plaxico, or are they just screwed.

[Yosarian]

But they lost players, you always need compensatory for lost players.

Did the Giants get any picks for Plaxico, or are they just screwed.

I think they just released Plaxi.

So where is our pick for the great awesome faggins?

[Schlauton]

I think they just released Plaxi.

I didn't think they got anything, tho' in this draft they wasted two picks on plax type receivers, so they are ok on that.

Well there goes the CB every other pick run, ho humm

[TransplantTexan1]

Well, Rashad Johnson will NOT mysteriously drop all the way to Houston at 112. :(

[Yosarian]

Well, Rashad Johnson will NOT mysteriously drop all the way to Houston at 112. :(

Cards already picked him

[Schlauton]

He must of had his brain transplanted......Just JKing, your name was just perfect for it, no harm meant.

I was wondering, on NFL.com, it says that we need a WR, and unless they mean a returner type WR, then yeah, but we have GREAT WR's.

So I am kinda stumped on that one.

[johndoe]

We are 12 picks away and there are 3 or so good RB's left

[Wolf123]

We are 12 picks away and there are 3 or so good RB's left

Which means they all get taken before we pick! lol

[Yosarian]

Romo just swallowed his gummy bear

[Schlauton]

Which means they all get taken before we pick! lol

Let's hope not, and maybe the Cowboys are looking to get rid Tony **** in a couple of years, ehh, Stephen Mcgee.

Or what HE, said ^^

[Whiskeyrbl]

R. Jennings and A. Brown still around and Victor "Macho" Harris

[Yosarian]

BPA's for us in order are

DJ Moore-cb
Mike Mickens-CB
Andre Brown-RB
Rashad Jennings-RB
Chip Vaughn-S
Michael Hamlin -S

[Whiskeyrbl]

9 picks to go and all your guys still on the board.

[Schlauton]

I was on NFL.com and only 1 team needs a RB, the Bengals, so we might have a lot of good RB's to pick from, when we go,

[johndoe]

BPA's for us in order are

DJ Moore-cb
Mike Mickens-CB
Andre Brown-RB
Rashad Jennings-RB
Chip Vaughn-S
Michael Hamlin -S

It's a good possibility that we can get 2 guys of this list with our picks

[Yosarian]

It's a good possibility that we can get 2 guys of this list with our picks
i agree

Looks like the caldwell pick was good timing after all.

I was sweating it out though.

Let's hope we pull two off this list!

[Whiskeyrbl]

Melton to the Bears

[johndoe]

i agree

Looks like the caldwell pick was good timing after all.

I was sweating it out though.

Let's hope we pull two off this list!

Let's hope that the Bengals don't take one of our RB's here...

[Whiskeyrbl]

Bengals take Luigis

[Schlauton]

And they didn't they must like Cedric Benson, well that means we might have OPTIONS at RB, when we pick.

[wildroot]

BPA's for us in order are

DJ Moore-cb
Mike Mickens-CB
Andre Brown-RB
Rashad Jennings-RB
Chip Vaughn-S
Michael Hamlin -S

pretty much what I'm seeing

[wildroot]

It's a good possibility that we can get 2 guys of this list with our picks

A RB and CB/S

[Whiskeyrbl]

Jags take a WR

[mordyel3]

Speaking of the Raiders....Michael Mitchell in the 2nd ?!?!?!?!?!?!

just because you dont know anything about this guy doesnt mean he isnt a great prospect. I was hoping we would get him in the 3rd because he was projected in the 4th or 5th, but a lot of teams were interested so i figured 3rd, but raiders snagged him. He will be a beast, and will have a chip on his shoulder because he wasnt even invited to the combine. He can play cb, FS, and SS. I am bummed we didnt get him

[ubecool454]

RB's that could be available in the 4th:

Cedric Peerman
Javon Ringer
Andre Brown
Kory Sheets
James Davis
Gartrell Johnson

I don't think any of those guys are better than Rashad Jennings. Brown dances alot, kory sheets is a mental case and is the same size as slaton. Ringer won't get drafted till late, Peerman is not that good.

[ubecool454]

A RB and CB/S

I can't believe this guy got drafted. Jerry must have a brain tumor.

[wildroot]

just because you dont know anything about this guy doesnt mean he isnt a great prospect. I was hoping we would get him in the 3rd because he was projected in the 4th or 5th, but a lot of teams were interested so i figured 3rd, but raiders snagged him. He will be a beast, and will have a chip on his shoulder because he wasnt even invited to the combine. He can play cb, FS, and SS. I am bummed we didnt get him

Everyone, NFL station, Sirius, ESPN were in shock that he was taken this high. Could have had him MUCH later.

[Wolf123]

A RB and CB/S

Sounds like a plan!

[Yosarian]

I don't think any of those guys are better than Rashad Jennings. Brown dances alot, kory sheets is a mental case and is the same size as slaton. Ringer won't get drafted till late, Peerman is not that good.
agree, Jennings is the best of whats left

[Neo]

Shawn Nelson may be an interesting darkhorse pick

[Schlauton]

OK, the cowboy are up next, aaaannnddddd, do what I said last time they went up, if you saw what I said.

[Wolf123]

No running back should be picked before us

[mordyel3]

Everyone, NFL station, Sirius, ESPN were in shock that he was taken this high. Could have had him MUCH later.


I agree but because i think it was 10 to 15 teams saw him blow it up at his Pro-Day. It made him drop from a 4th or 5th to what i predicted a 3rd, but even i wss wrong, and he went in the second. I still think its a steal, because that boy can PLAY and is versitile enough to play all postions in the secondary. Instant upgrade i believe for any team, go on youtube, and watch a video of him.

[Whygohome]

1 pick to go and Moore is still available.

[Yosarian]

SWEET!

Except knowing my history of guessing the texanspicks,,they probably wont get anyone on my list lol

[johndoe]

We are on the clock!!!

[Wolf123]

SWEET!

Except knowing my history of guessing the texanspicks,,they probably wont get anyone on my list lol

hahaha, they always throw the board for a loop

[johndoe]

SWEET!

Except knowing my history of guessing the texanspicks,,they probably wont get anyone on my list lol

I was just thinking the same thing lol

[Whiskeyrbl]

I bet we go DB with 112 and RB at 122

[Boz]

Texans are up so cue commercial

[Wolf123]

WOW, why would carolina waste a 4th on goodson

[Whiskeyrbl]

I bet we go DB with 112 and RB at 122

Maybe not

[Whiskeyrbl]

Texans take ...... who is Glover Quinn???? CB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNsxMdxPlSw

[CoogBull]

Glover Quin. Not bad.

[johndoe]

Glover quin???? Who the hell is that???

[Whygohome]

Wow Quin over Moore....

[Neo]

Quin is a FS

[Schlauton]

AND the PICK IS.......Glover Quin, never heard of him, BUT, NFL.com always puts up a video to show them off, so I will wait, and NFL.com talks about them, so we will see if they like it.

[Yosarian]

never heard of him

[wildroot]

Quin over Mickens and Moore?

[Wolf123]

Quin is a FS

He could be intrigueing there, but not much of a tackler

[theyoungNwild]

Relly think we should've picked DJ Moore there....

[Sic_'Em]

who??

[Schlauton]

Here is what NFL.com likes and Dislike about this guy

Positives: Adequate height and very solid overall build for a corner or free safety. ... Has the strength to jam on the line. ... Likes contact, will bring his hips and wrap up in the open field. ... Good awareness, reads screens, play action and misdirection. ... High-points the football and had good hands for the interception. ... Breaks up passes by jumping routes or fighting for the ball in the air. ... Returned 10 kickoffs for 323 yards as a senior and can be dangerous running back interceptions. ... Played through pain and returned quickly from groin surgery during junior season. ... Physical runner on returns -- goes straight upfield, is willing to take a hit and can bounce off to get additional yardage.

Negatives: Some teams will grade him as a safety and cornerback "tweener." ... Does not have great straight-line or recovery speed. ... Best when attacking the play in front of him. ... Will throw his shoulder to make a hit instead of wrapping up. ... Lacks great height and vertical leap to challenge tall NFL receivers. ... Inconsistent getting off receiver blocks on the edge. ... Lacks great quickness, vision or speed on returns.

[TransplantTexan1]

Quinn is said to be more of a ball hawker than a tackler. Kind of surprised buy, hey, it's the fourth round. No body's board matches at this point.

[CoogBull]

Glover Quin: 6'0 and 198lb.

[BMT TEXAN]

I luv the way our FO thinks. Dont have stats & all that but this kid can be real-good. Gatrelle Johnson-5th rnd still a possibilty!!!:cool:

[Sic_'Em]

The three-year starter emerged as one of college football's elite pass coverage defenders. In addition to registering seven interceptions during the course of his last 14 games, he also established a new school career record with 32 pass deflections, becoming just the fifth player in Mountain West Conference annals to break up more than 30 passes in a career.

Quin is not only a quality deep coverage defender, thanks to his quickness and leaping ability, but he is perhaps pound-for-pound one of the strongest defensive backs in the country. While his 40 3/4-inch vertical jump set a school position record, he also earned the team Beefmaster Award in 2008 for his performance in the weight room. He put up 360 pounds in the bench, 328 in the power clean, 500 in the squat and 305 in the incline press.

At North Pike High school, Quin lettered four times in both football and basketball, earning the Jaguar's team MVP Award in both sports as a senior. He totaled 2,552 rushing yards, 224 tackles and 13 interceptions during his prep career. He also received the U.S. Army Scholar-Athlete Award.

Surprisingly, those impressive prep numbers did not draw the attention of major college recruiters, so Quinn enrolled at Southwest Mississippi Community College in 2004. He appeared in two games before suffering a right arm fracture that would sideline him the rest of the campaign. He returned to action in 2005, as the cornerback returned one of his two interceptions for a touchdown, adding eight pass deflections and 40 tackles (29 solos).

Quin enrolled at New Mexico in January, 2006, in time to compete for a starting job during spring drills. He took over left cornerback duties, earning All-Mountain West Conference honorable mention. He deflected 13 passes, fifth-highest on the school single-season record list, as he also totaled 63 tackles (37 solos) with two stops for loss, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery in 13 contests.

A 2007 groin injury in August camp continued to get worse early in the season, as Quin was forced to undergo surgery after the second game. He was still named All-MWC honorable mention, as he started nine games. He produced 40 tackles (25 solos) with a pair of interceptions, as he also broke up eight other tosses.

Quin picked up All-MWC first-team recognition in 2008. Despite being bothered by a knee injury that required surgery after the season, he had 53 tackles (33 solos) that included 4.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage. He batted down 11 balls and led the conference while ranking tied for 19th in the nation, intercepting five passes.

[Boz]

nalysis

Positives: Adequate height and very solid overall build for a corner or free safety. ... Has the strength to jam on the line. ... Likes contact, will bring his hips and wrap up in the open field. ... Good awareness, reads screens, play action and misdirection. ... High-points the football and had good hands for the interception. ... Breaks up passes by jumping routes or fighting for the ball in the air. ... Returned 10 kickoffs for 323 yards as a senior and can be dangerous running back interceptions. ... Played through pain and returned quickly from groin surgery during junior season. ... Physical runner on returns -- goes straight upfield, is willing to take a hit and can bounce off to get additional yardage.

Negatives: Some teams will grade him as a safety and cornerback "tweener." ... Does not have great straight-line or recovery speed. ... Best when attacking the play in front of him. ... Will throw his shoulder to make a hit instead of wrapping up. ... Lacks great height and vertical leap to challenge tall NFL receivers. ... Inconsistent getting off receiver blocks on the edge. ... Lacks great quickness, vision or speed on returns.

Copyright NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/glover-quin?id=71441#player-profile-tab-set-1:player-profile-tab-analysis

[Jack Texan]

PFW does project him as a FS in the NFL. The Texans must have a plan.

[CoogBull]

Here is what NFL.com likes and Dislike about this guy

Positives: Adequate height and very solid overall build for a corner or free safety. ... Has the strength to jam on the line. ... Likes contact, will bring his hips and wrap up in the open field. ... Good awareness, reads screens, play action and misdirection. ... High-points the football and had good hands for the interception. ... Breaks up passes by jumping routes or fighting for the ball in the air. ... Returned 10 kickoffs for 323 yards as a senior and can be dangerous running back interceptions. ... Played through pain and returned quickly from groin surgery during junior season. ... Physical runner on returns -- goes straight upfield, is willing to take a hit and can bounce off to get additional yardage.

Negatives: Some teams will grade him as a safety and cornerback "tweener." ... Does not have great straight-line or recovery speed. ... Best when attacking the play in front of him. ... Will throw his shoulder to make a hit instead of wrapping up. ... Lacks great height and vertical leap to challenge tall NFL receivers. ... Inconsistent getting off receiver blocks on the edge. ... Lacks great quickness, vision or speed on returns.

Sounds like a guy that can go either CB or FS. Played through pain. That is good. I am sick of players getting bow bows and having to take a month off. Get him in some early special teams play to evaluate him.

[TheGoaT]

what pisses me off is Jamie Dukes and the retard crew talking about some guy for 10 mins and completely missing our pick and not even mentioning it. They need to stop going over on debates and spend 60secs talking about each pick.

[South Texan]

Since we only have Wilson listed on the depth chart as FS I wonder if that's what they are thinking for Quin.

[Schlauton]

The saints, The Buccaneers, and Bills all need a RB, so we might not get any we wanted....

[SMC-22]

whats the deal with the Schaub jersey?


http://scores.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index

[Sic_'Em]

whats the deal with the Schaub jersey?


http://scores.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index

i saw that too...

[CoogBull]

I luv the way our FO thinks. Dont have stats & all that but this kid can be real-good. Gatrelle Johnson-5th rnd still a possibilty!!!:cool:

If we take Gartrell, I will consider this draft a success.

[Schlauton]

Here is a video of him, that NFL.com put up

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f336d3

and here is there Draft Analysis

Pick Analysis: New Mexico always produces one or two guys each year who play well. Quin was a three-year starter and has good speed and jumping ability. He's got confidence and at this point in the draft, he brings good value. He adds depth to a Texans' secondary that has struggled to come together in recent years.

[Yosarian]

Well, if he won the BEEFMASTER Award , thats good enough for me.. lol

[johndoe]

If we take Gartrell, I will consider this draft a success.

I would much rather have Andre Brown but whatever...either one would work.

[CoogBull]

what pisses me off is Jamie Dukes and the retard crew talking about some guy for 10 mins and completely missing our pick and not even mentioning it. They need to stop going over on debates and spend 60secs talking about each pick.

They have been doing that the entire time. Pisses me off too. All they want to talk about are the Pats and the darn Jets. It took them forever to even mention Conner Barwin.

[South Texan]

The saints, The Buccaneers, and Bills all need a RB, so we might not get any we wanted....

There have been some statements from the FO not to forget we have Chris Brown back from injuries at RB. They may be thinking that RB is not as much of a priority as some of us think it is.

[CoogBull]

OT: Mel Kiper looks like a rapist.

[wildroot]

There have been some statements from the FO not to forget we have Chris Brown back from injuries at RB. They may be thinking that RB is not as much of a priority as some of us think it is.

Oh yeah....thats got me feeling all warm and fuzzy.

[peldon]

There have been some statements from the FO not to forget we have Chris Brown back from injuries at RB. They may be thinking that RB is not as much of a priority as some of us think it is.

If the FO is seriously thinking that they can rely on Chris Brown then I will begin to question their sanity.

[TK_Gamer]

Since we only have Wilson listed on the depth chart as FS I wonder if that's what they are thinking for Quin.

To this point in the regime, the Texan's don't use a "FS/SS" set up. they simply go right and left side just like their CB's. I think all our safeties will have to cover(zone) and tackle.

[Sic_'Em]

Sammie Lee Hill got picked by the Lions....that hurt. we needed a NT.

[Yosarian]

If the FO is seriously thinking that they can rely on Chris Brown then I will begin to question their sanity.


That makes two of us

[Yosarian]

Sammie Lee Hill got picked by the Lions....that hurt. we needed a NT.

the NT's left are not an improvement to what we have now imo

[CoogBull]

the NT's left are not an improvement to what we have now imo

And that is?

[Wolf123]

oh yeah....thats got me feeling all warm and fuzzy.

rofl!!!!!

[Schlauton]

Bills are the only team left in front of us that NEEED NEED a RB, so we still might get Andre Brown or Rashad Jennings (is it Rashad or Rashard)

[Sic_'Em]

the NT's left are not an improvement to what we have now imo

agreed. I think Hill was the last one worth drafting.

[CoogBull]

hahaha holy cow, just wait in a few years to see then...

Whatever that guy is into, it is not consensual.

[dattexboy]

if you guys look at his film on youtube you'll appreciate his athleticism. I would like to see him more physical at the point of attack but he looks to get the football at it's highest point.

[Sic_'Em]

Bills are the only team left in front of us that NEEED NEED a RB, so we still might get Andre Brown or Rashad Jennings (is it Rashad or Rashard)

the first spelling

[Yosarian]

And that is?

I hear ya. Remember, i was the one who was begging for Peria Jerry with our first.

Even if our guys need help there isn't any this year that would help imo

Who do you think is available that is an upgrade?

[Whiskeyrbl]

DJ Moore to Da Bears

[Sic_'Em]

Whatever that guy is into, it is not consensual.

rotflmao

[Whiskeyrbl]

if you guys look at his film on youtube you'll appreciate his athleticism. I would like to see him more physical at the point of attack but he looks to get the football at it's highest point.

Posted the link in the Glover Quin thread

[CoogBull]

I hear ya. Remember, i was the one who was begging for Peria Jerry with our first.

Even if our guys need help there isn't any this year that would help imo

Who do you think is available that is an upgrade?

I liked Jerry as well. I just do not have faith in our interior D-line. Rush defense was our big achilles heel last year. Hopefully we can get some help.

[Wolf123]

good pick by the cowboys

[Schlauton]

dude they dont pick until the 5th round. Lets just get Brown now and be done with it. He is starting material if needed down the road.

Well, NFL.com's draft tracker say's BILLS, right after Cowboys, and before us....

Cowboys got a DE, so it is up to the bills.....

[BMT TEXAN]

If we take Gartrell, I will consider this draft a success.

That's what im talking bout, Bull. Not many G. Johnson fans but this guy is jus the kind-of stud we need as a 10-15 carries a game back. Work-Horse Mentality fits the theme of our draft & Gartrelle adds to that in the 5th.

[Wolf123]

That was quick!!!

[Hound]

RB is not as big a need as many thought it was. Slaton had 1285 yards last year and many wanted to bring in a first or second round pick to back him up... Excuse me???... When we really needed a RB we waited till the 3rd round... And Slaton is a great 3rd round guy but still making 3rd round money. If I were a team the last thing I would want to do is bring in someone making more money than he does to back him up... or to share times with him. Why create a problem?

[johndoe]

Bills take shawn nelson!!!

Is it Andre Brown time???

[Whiskeyrbl]

On the clock

[wildroot]

Who's it going to be?

[Schlauton]

RB is not as big a need as many thought it was. Slaton had 1285 yards last year and many wanted to bring in a first or second round pick to back him up... Excuse... When we really needed a RB we waited till the 3rd round... And Slaton is a great 3rd round guy but still making 3rd round money. If I were a team the last thing I would want to do is bring in someone making more money than he does to back him up... or to share times with him. Why create a problem?

I see what you mean about picking up a RB in the upper rounds, but now is the time to get a BIG, BALLSY, BOMBASTIC, RB, Andre Brown or Rashad.

[Yosarian]

I liked Jerry as well. I just do not have faith in our interior D-line. Rush defense was our big achilles heel last year. Hopefully we can get some help.

Well it isn't going to be in this years draft. Maybe we can shore up a dt in free agency.

[AJfan]

We draft a Houston boy...

[CoogBull]

Do we really need another TE?

[johndoe]

what the hell???? anthony hill???

[wildroot]

Hill? TE?
Still no RB....

[Whiskeyrbl]

A freakin TE, whats going on we need a RB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Schlauton]

A TE????

Hmmmm, I guess they REALLY like Andre Brown.

[CoogBull]

Is the Texans FO making these picks or did they just give a blindfolded monkey a set of darts?

[peldon]

Right school, wrong player. Do you think maybe the phone cut out before they heard the whole message. "We will pick NCST's..."

[Whiskeyrbl]

A TE????

Hmmmm, I guess they REALLY like Andre Brown.

More like Gartrell Johnson in the 5th

[Wolf123]

First pick I am not thrilled with.

I tend to agree but kubiak knows TE!

[TheGoaT]

I dont know if I like waiting til the 5th for a running back, I would have rather gotten one now. Its putting alot of faith into Chris Brown.

[Schlauton]

More like Gartrell Johnson in the 5th

Woops I meant to say CHRIS brown, lol, woops....

[Scotty Smalls14]

WOW. Hope this doesn't have anything to do with the OD trade rumor to Buffalo

[Yosarian]

a TE again...



EPIC FAIL!

[Whiskeyrbl]

First pick I am not thrilled with.

My self. First three good solid picks. 4a looks like a good backup for now. Maybe Hill is a good blocking TE, because he only caught 19 passes last year. Maybe for goal line and short yardage.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/Anthony-Hill.php

[wildroot]

Surely a RB at 122 would be a bigger impact on this team than a back-up TE?
I have to believe OD's going to be signed so we just drafted a backup player.
Sink me....

[TransplantTexan1]

A blocking TE. Good size but not good speed. Really clears house on running plays.

[TK_Gamer]

I think they believe Brown will be there in the 5th and just went BPA. we will eventually have to replace Bruener.

[South Texan]

Myabe they are thinking of Hill as a blocker in short yard situations? I am hoping Rick Smith knows something the rest of us don't about Hill.

[Schlauton]

My self. First three good solid picks. 4a looks like a good backup for now. Maybe Hill is a good blocking TE, because he only caught 19 passes last year. Maybe for goal line and short yardage.

The problem is that NFL.com says he isn't even a good blocker...

[Aztequila]

I guess we have to believe in the FO. So far, I'm not sure what is going on here on the 2nd day, but I guess Smith knows what he's doing.

[Jack Texan]

Hill is a solid run blocker. We are strengthening our ground game by building up the line. I guess an RB comes in the 5th.

[CoogBull]

I think they believe Brown will be there in the 5th and just went BPA. we will eventually have to replace Bruener.

Did they go BPA or just PA?

[Sportswriter79]

Myabe they are thinking of Hill as a blocker in short yard situations? I am hoping Rick Smith knows something the rest of us don't about Hill.

Somehow I think that is a very good bet. :rolleyes:

[Jeff]

Has to be the worst draft in history! A roid using LB that can do nothing but rush and get inured.

A DE after we signed ANOTHER young Defensive end for our second pick (goodbye Max Unger)

Caldwell is a decent pick

Quin is a 4th round pick, just another guy in the CB field who will play Special Teams

and a TE???

[jayjtexan]

Bruener has retired we need to replace his blocking

[AJfan]

People remember Mark Bruener retired, so a blocking TE was a need...

[J-Storm]

While not knowingh their logic behind the pick of another TE, I will have faith that they actually kn ow what they are doing rather than 2nd guessing them on the actual day of the draft. I may be in the minority here, but I'll give the guy a chance on-field before buying him a ticket outta town...

[wildroot]

I'm fine with 14 and 46 and to a point 77, but the rest has been a disapointment.

[Whiskeyrbl]

The problem is that NFL.com says he isn't even a good blocker...

Put a link to nfl draft countdown, says he is a pretty good blocker.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...thony-Hill.php

[Hound]

They obviously aren't very interested in Andre Brown... There are a lot of RB's that might be able to do what they want done...

Maybe they will wait till the 6th or 7th and take Chris Ogbonnaya... good size and great hands coming out of the back field.

[Sic_'Em]

People remember Mark Bruener retired, so a blocking TE was a need...

exactlly...dont jump off the ship just yet folks...

[wildroot]

People remember Mark Bruener retired, so a blocking TE was a need...

Someone just said this guy isn't much of a blocker either.

[CoogBull]

Just wait, our next pick will be the guy who sells peanuts in section 143 at the UNC games. Say what you will but the guy has a hell of an arm.

[Schlauton]

Someone just said this guy isn't much of a blocker either.

That was me, but I am wrong, I accidentally Clicked on SHAWN NELSON, which was one pick ahead of us, here is what NFL.com said about ANTHONY HILL

Positives: Tall with some strength and long arms. Presents a nice target to his quarterback on bootlegs and in zones. Physical blocking for the run and pass. Finds his target in space, can latch on and push him downfield. Fair lateral movement to stay in front of defensive ends on the line. Lines up in the slot and with his hand down. Uses his length and height to stretch the field. Reliable, soft hands and physical enough to push off defenders and gain yardage after the catch.

Negatives: Built like a receiver. Long strider who lacks quickness out of his stance or the speed to separate, although his height is an advantage downfield. Does not have suddenness in and out of routes, and will round them off. Fails to sustain blocks against quicker defenders in space because he does not bend his knees, has slow footwork and stiff hips. Waist-bender when blocking defensive ends on the edge. Durability concerns abound with ACL and chest injuries keeping him out over the past two seasons.

[WaldovonPutz]

Trying to be patient here, but......RB was a need coming in, wasn't it? I'd hate to be a month in the season with some backs dinged up and the board discussing bringing Darius Walker back for a trial.

[TexansfaninNY]

Wow, day 2 has been very dissapointing. Why would they pass on DJ Moore twice? I just dont get it. I think we also need another DT. The BPA at that position now is, IMO, Terrance Taylor. I think we should trade up again to get him. Why would they pass on DJ Moore and take Glover Quin. Is there something I dont know about Moore, because he should have been taken in the 2nd round.

[Sic_'Em]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/504753

[wildroot]

OK I am going to give Anthoney Hill some credit. He must be a genius because he knew who to blow to get drafted by us. Several other TE's are scored higher then him if we had to have one this early! We just passed a a nice *** RB for no good reason!

Go figure...

[AJfan]

bye bye andre brown...:(

[Whiskeyrbl]

Andre Brown just went to the Giants.

[Wolf123]

Has to be the worst draft in history! A roid using LB that can do nothing but rush and get inured.

A DE after we signed ANOTHER young Defensive end for our second pick (goodbye Max Unger)

Caldwell is a decent pick

Quin is a 4th round pick, just another guy in the CB field who will play Special Teams

and a TE???

Calm down dang!

[3guns]

What's up with the 4th round pics. You would've thought a RB for sure, and a TE in the 5th or 6th. Maybe Brown will still be there, but I think we should least at look at Southerland in the 6th.

[TexansfaninNY]

Why did everyone want Brown anyway??? I really didnt see anything special from him, or am i just totally missing something.

[Wolf123]

Why did everyone want Brown anyway??? I really didnt see anything special from him, or am i just totally missing something.

Fans always fall in love with certain players.

[wildroot]

Trying to be patient here, but......RB was a need coming in, wasn't it? I'd hate to be a month in the season with some backs dinged up and the board discussing bringing Darius Walker back for a trial.

I thought coming in our two top needs were CB/S and RB...Other than picking Quin who I never heard of, we still have those needs. I don't understand why we didn't address those needs higher in the draft. Did we really need a TE more than a RB to compliment Sleepy?

[CoogBull]

This draft is starting to feel like a bust.

[wildroot]

James Davis and Jennings are still out there.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Let these guys rant and whine. They are probably the same ones that griped when we took Mario, Diles, Owen Daniels, traded for Walter, traded for Schaub. Point is the guys making these picks, this is their JOBS and lively hood and I tend to think they know alot more about football and the guys we are getting than we do or ever will. We know what Kipers and the other not so great experts tell us. And I will defer to a unanimous phrase heard around the world. " What are they thinking in Houston"? Mario is gonna be a bust. Well 3 years later..... I'll give Smith/Kubes the benefit of the Doubt.

[Wolf123]

Let these guys rant and whine. They are probably the same ones that griped when we took Mario, Diles, Owen Daniels, traded for Walter, traded for Schaub. Point is the guys making these picks, this is their JOBS and lively hood and I tend to think they know alot more about football and the guys we are getting than we do or ever will. We know what Kipers and the other not so great experts tell us. And I will defer to a unanimous phrase heard around the world. " What are they thinking in Houston"? Mario is gonna be a bust. Well 3 years later..... I'll give Smith/Kubes the benefit of the Doubt.

Great post, Its funny because most of these people only show up here on draft day or free agent signing period to rip the texans and then leave.

[Schlauton]

Here is what NFL.com said about him

Pick Analysis: Hill is a big, blocking tight end with adequate speed. He is almost like having a third tackle in the game. He's probably the best blocking tight end in this draft. The Texans have the receiving tight end in Owen Daniels, and now they have the blocker to go along with him

[wildroot]

Here is what NFL.com said about him

Pick Analysis: Hill is a big, blocking tight end with adequate speed. He is almost like having a third tackle in the game. He's probably the best blocking tight end in this draft. The Texans have the receiving tight end in Owen Daniels, and now they have the blocker to go along with him

I'd have rather kept Sage.

[fdknuckles]

there goes gartrell

[Whiskeyrbl]

Gartrell Johnson is Gone

[CoogBull]

Let these guys rant and whine. They are probably the same ones that griped when we took Mario, Diles, Owen Daniels, traded for Walter, traded for Schaub. Point is the guys making these picks, this is their JOBS and lively hood and I tend to think they know alot more about football and the guys we are getting than we do or ever will. We know what Kipers and the other not so great experts tell us. And I will defer to a unanimous phrase heard around the world. " What are they thinking in Houston"? Mario is gonna be a bust. Well 3 years later..... I'll give Smith/Kubes the benefit of the Doubt.

So they are omnipotent?

Why are people giving Kubes and Smith so much love. The best those guys have ever done is 8-8. If that is yuor definition of success you really need to rethink the meaning of the term.

[fdknuckles]

I really thought we'd get him in the 5th

[Schlauton]

I'd have rather kept Sage.

Sage wouldn't have like that tho', he wanted to be a starter, and well, he wouldn't have tried if we kept him.

[fdknuckles]

So they are omnipotent?

Why are people giving Kubes and Smith so much love. The best those guys have ever done is 8-8. If that is yuor definition of success you really need to rethink the meaning of the term.

I've got to disagree, remember where we were before they got here

[DoomQue]

Gartrell Gone

[BMT TEXAN]

My guy gone in the 4th, didn't make it too the 5th. Watch'em with the Chargers, tho. Guy is tuff.

[DoomQue]

LT just breathed a sigh of relief. Do yall know what this means. Now he doesn't have to move the pile at the goal line. what weapons they will have at RB....LT, Sproles, and now this thumper in Johnson....man i'm glad we dont play them this year.

[TexansfaninNY]

The are some really good players still available. I think we need to get back into this round to fulfill another one of our needs. Hill seems like a good pick, but Glover Quin over DJ Moore is very wierd. It makes me thing that the 32 teams know something that the public does not know.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Maybe we are targeting Arian Foster out of Tenn. Was a 2nd rd projection for last years draft and had a poor 2008 season with a thigh bruise. a big guy
6'1 226 4.6.-40

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/Arian-Foster.php

[Schlauton]

The are some really good players still available. I think we need to get back into this round to fulfill another one of our needs. Hill seems like a good pick, but Glover Quin over DJ Moore is very wierd. It makes me thing that the 32 teams know something that the public does not know.

DJ Moore is crying right now, and his phone is completely silent....

[Whiskeyrbl]

The are some really good players still available. I think we need to get back into this round to fulfill another one of our needs. Hill seems like a good pick, but Glover Quin over DJ Moore is very wierd. It makes me thing that the 32 teams know something that the public does not know.

I concur

[blactexan]

the texans have to draft a big back to help slaton .........right?

[TexansfaninNY]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There goes my guy....

The Colts made Mike Hart and Terrance Taylor together again. That was a good pick for them, IMO. Taylor is going to be good one day...

[DoomQue]

We are going to have to move up to get Jennings. if not we will take the other Colorado St. guy....kyle bell.

[TheGoaT]

hey look Coogbull the emochild ruins another thread. Considering none of these guys has been given a chance on the field yet, and our FO history with finding draft gems, how about we put the pitchforks away and grow a few brain cells back.

[DoomQue]

Moore went to the bears.

[powerhouse713]

DJ Moore is crying right now, and his phone is completely silent....

D.J. Moore got drafted a while ago by the Bears.

[Schlauton]

hey look Coogbull the emochild ruins another thread. Considering none of these guys has been given a chance on the field yet, and our FO history with finding draft gems, how about we put the pitchforks away and grow a few brain cells back.

*High-Five*

Good one man, that was just great....