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TheLBCoach
04-26-2009, 05:12 PM
Great draft Rick!

TexanFan23
04-26-2009, 05:14 PM
This has been a helluva draft. I'm pretty happy with the way the draft went for us. Every one of these guys could potentially be starters.

RockNRoll!
04-26-2009, 05:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kbInOFqoLc&feature=related

the video calls him an "instinctive ballhawk" at the beginning.

lets hope he lives up to that. his production over 25 career games is incredible.

Sportswriter79
04-26-2009, 05:14 PM
Great draft Rick!

:rolleyes:

GroovyTexan
04-26-2009, 05:14 PM
steal? explain please.

all i see in another player with an injury plagued career.

RockNRoll!
04-26-2009, 05:16 PM
steal? explain please.

all i see in another player with an injury plagued career.

please....he is a 7th round pick. at this point in the draft, anyone you take is either going to be a project or someone who can prove to stay healthy....or play at the NFL level after playing for a small school. lets not get down on the pick...

TexanFan23
04-26-2009, 05:17 PM
too many negative vibes on here, I'll catch you guys later. :)

GroovyTexan
04-26-2009, 05:18 PM
got to love the highlight video in any case!!

Whiskeyrbl
04-26-2009, 05:21 PM
going to watch the live presser on texan tv.

Sportswriter79
04-26-2009, 05:21 PM
please....he is a 7th round pick. at this point in the draft, anyone you take is either going to be a project or someone who can prove to stay healthy....or play at the NFL level after playing for a small school. lets not get down on the pick...

That's why it's tough to envision him as a "steal".

houstonsportsfan09
04-26-2009, 05:23 PM
going to watch the live presser on texan tv.

Yeah. I wanna hear the explanation on not taking a RB. Overall, a good draft though.

Schlauton
04-26-2009, 05:33 PM
HEHE, look what NFL.com said about us picking him.....

Pick Analysis: Nolan runs well and does have some ball skills. Arizona State's struggles last year affected Nolan, but he's a good player. To get him in the seventh round is good value for his speed and skill level.

da sheetz
04-26-2009, 05:33 PM
I like it we really addressed our secondary problems as well as our pass rush our d is gonna be nasty next year.

TiredofSuffering
04-26-2009, 06:04 PM
I agree that this was a good pick. A very good pick. I watched several of his games and saw some highlights and think he's a hell of a good pickup at this point in the draft.

I really liked the Cushing pick and this pick. The rest I can do without, but those are two ****ed good picks I think.

South Texan
04-26-2009, 06:20 PM
Yeah. I wanna hear the explanation on not taking a RB. Overall, a good draft though.

I think you will hear we have Chris Brown back this year, and some decent RBs could end up on other teams practice squads that we can pick up.

houstonsportsfan09
04-26-2009, 06:29 PM
I think you will hear we have Chris Brown back this year, and some decent RBs could end up on other teams practice squads that we can pick up.

Yep you're right. Thats exactly what I heard. They didnt feel it was necessary to come out of the draft with a back.

TiredofSuffering
04-26-2009, 06:37 PM
I really don't mind not taking a back. Not taking a back is the least of my gripes. We had to shore up the LB corp and Cushing was a great pick.

We choked in the second round. There were a few backs there but where we choked was not taking the safety from Missouri.

The third round was a good pick. We needed to shore up the OL and I like the kid especially if we leave him at center.

Later round backs weren't going to be as good as Brown, and maybe we take a premier guy next year.

In general this draft sucked the big one but not taking a running back wasn't the reason it sucked.

Whiskeyrbl
04-26-2009, 06:55 PM
That's why it's tough to envision him as a "steal".

Maybe sleeper is a better word.

Wolf123
04-26-2009, 07:52 PM
I really don't mind not taking a back. Not taking a back is the least of my gripes. We had to shore up the LB corp and Cushing was a great pick.

We choked in the second round. There were a few backs there but where we choked was not taking the safety from Missouri.

The third round was a good pick. We needed to shore up the OL and I like the kid especially if we leave him at center.

Later round backs weren't going to be as good as Brown, and maybe we take a premier guy next year.

In general this draft sucked the big one but not taking a running back wasn't the reason it sucked.

Your comments show that you liked the draft except for the 2nd rounder. Don't let one pick ruin your whole view on the draft. I know you liked moore but he is not what the texans need.

Texian
04-26-2009, 08:49 PM
Great draft Rick!

Wait until he learns how to trade up!

lilbush
04-26-2009, 08:55 PM
or trade down....Cushing of course was a reach @ 15. If Philly and TB traded up we should have called both of them and traded down a few picks even if it was for a 4th round pick.

I have to say Chicago made out like Bandits:
1/2. Cutler
3. Jarron Gilbert
3. Juaquin Iglesias
4. Henry Melton
4. DJ Moore
5. Johnny Knox
5. Marcus Freeman

Texian
04-26-2009, 09:03 PM
or trade down....Cushing of course was a reach @ 15. If Philly and TB traded up we should have called both of them and traded down a few picks even if it was for a 4th round pick.

I have to say Chicago made out like Bandits:
1/2. Cutler
3. Jarron Gilbert
3. Juaquin Iglesias
4. Henry Melton
4. DJ Moore
5. Johnny Knox
5. Marcus Freeman

Chicago had a GREAT DRAFT. Angelo knows his stuff. JETS were aggressive and with just 2 picks they get a franchise QB and a 1000 yard back. BOTH Drafts IMPRESSIVE. It helps when you know what your doing!

TheGoaT
04-26-2009, 09:21 PM
or trade down....Cushing of course was a reach @ 15. If Philly and TB traded up we should have called both of them and traded down a few picks even if it was for a 4th round pick.


how is cushing a reach? He was rated right in the middle of the first round just where he was taken.

GroovyTexan
04-27-2009, 01:56 AM
how is cushing a reach? He was rated right in the middle of the first round just where he was taken.

i guess you can say he was a reach when 4 other guys are widely rated ahead of him - Maclin, Oher, Wells, Pettigrew, and, to many, Ayers. I would say he was a very very slight reach and it would have been only a tad bit more of a reach to grab Matthews - who will probably develop into a better player than Cush over the next 3 years. Matthews doesn't have the history of injuries either and you know he has football in his blood - literally.

GoldenHolden
04-27-2009, 02:13 AM
i guess you can say he was a reach when 4 other guys are widely rated ahead of him - Maclin, Oher, Wells, Pettigrew, and, to many, Ayers. I would say he was a very very slight reach and it would have been only a tad bit more of a reach to grab Matthews - who will probably develop into a better player than Cush over the next 3 years. Matthews doesn't have the history of injuries either and you know he has football in his blood - literally.

I think the bloodlines thing is a little overrated. I don't remember AJ, Mario, or Demeco's dads being superstar nfl players.

GroovyTexan
04-27-2009, 02:16 AM
I think the bloodlines thing is a little overrated. I don't remember AJ, Mario, or Demeco's dads being superstar nfl players.

time will tell if it is or not.

Se7en
04-27-2009, 11:26 AM
I think the bloodlines thing is a little overrated. I don't remember AJ, Mario, or Demeco's dads being superstar nfl players.

I think it is more about the mentality that those players are raised with. For example the Manning brothers were not raised by a superstar football dad, but he always stressed the importance of football in the lives of his sons and it turned them into well rounded players with a head for the game.

TheGoaT
04-27-2009, 12:00 PM
i guess you can say he was a reach when 4 other guys are widely rated ahead of him - Maclin, Oher, Wells, Pettigrew, and, to many, Ayers. I would say he was a very very slight reach and it would have been only a tad bit more of a reach to grab Matthews - who will probably develop into a better player than Cush over the next 3 years. Matthews doesn't have the history of injuries either and you know he has football in his blood - literally.

I dont see it as a reach compared to those guys. We didnt need a 1st reciever, or a 1st round big TE, I could maybe see Oher its yingyang there, and Wells nearly fell to the 2nd round so I think he would have been the reach. Cushing was right where he was supposed to be. Plus we are basing who is higher based on some so called 'experts' opinions not based on 1 teams needs. The texans had their own board, and if Cushing was highest on it, makes sense to me.

dbruder44
04-27-2009, 12:17 PM
I think it is more about the mentality that those players are raised with. For example the Manning brothers were not raised by a superstar football dad, but he always stressed the importance of football in the lives of his sons and it turned them into well rounded players with a head for the game.

Dude Archie many wasn't a superstar but a very solid nFL QB

1337texansfan
04-27-2009, 12:47 PM
I really don't mind not taking a back. Not taking a back is the least of my gripes. We had to shore up the LB corp and Cushing was a great pick.

We choked in the second round. There were a few backs there but where we choked was not taking the safety from Missouri.

The third round was a good pick. We needed to shore up the OL and I like the kid especially if we leave him at center.

Later round backs weren't going to be as good as Brown, and maybe we take a premier guy next year.

In general this draft sucked the big one but not taking a running back wasn't the reason it sucked.
we choked in the 2nd, are you kidding. dude, buy a clue. conner barwin addressed our pass rush needs that we did place a high value on coming into this draft. willy moore was not rated higher then conner barwin. all the safeties in this draft are pretty rated so close that it was not that big of deal to pass on any of the guys in top half of the draft. connor barwin give are defense versatilty, and some good utility across our front seven. i would rather get a guy who can damm near play any position on our front seven then a guy who is questionable to even be playing free safety in the NFL.

el toro
04-27-2009, 01:11 PM
The defense was a much higher priority than the offense. They did a good job at targeting the real area of need on this team (the front 7) in the first two rounds and they used their top two picks on talents that warranted using those picks. It also appears that they were going to use their 3rd rounder on a RB if one of two fell to them but when they couldn't get either, they took a great offensive lineman instead of reaching on another RB.

I don't get the fixation on RBs. Denver threw anyone who had a pulse behind Gibbs' offensive line and they rushed for 1,000 yards.