FOX Sports-Positional Power Rankings-QBs

[touttail]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9735822/Positional-Power-Rankings:-QB-packages?gt1=39002

The Texans ranked #13 !!! Not shabby if you ask me.

Bobby 119C

[A-B]

I don't agree with a lot of their rankings. I think that Indy and New England should be much higher and we should be a head of the Bills, I also don't understand the Romo thing. He hasn't proven any thing and this year he will be even worse.

agreed. Especially Dallas.

[Se7en]

I hate to sound like a homer, but when Schaub is on the field he has the weapons to help him be in the top 10 of QBs. His issue has not been his ability to make plays, but he was limited with unfortunate injuries and a few games where we were behind and forcing passes to try and work a miracle comeback.

If we can limit other teams scoring chances and capitalize on our own to stay ahead, Schaub will look like a miracle worker and his stats will look amazing. Also if he can keep the composure he had in games like the Titans and Packers in the second half of the season he is easily on of the better QBs in the league and will lead this team to success.

[zanth91]

I don't agree with any of the top 3. Bad list...

[infantrycak]

His issue has not been his ability to make plays, but he was limited with unfortunate injuries and a few games where we were behind and forcing passes to try and work a miracle comeback.

Injuries, yes. Pressing late, some sure, but he had 7 1st half INT's last year and 3 2nd half INT's.

Schaub usually takes two to three games to warm up, get comfortable with the plays and get rid off the early jitters.

Or last year he played brutal teams early, one that went 13-3 and one that won the super bowl. Year before he started the season off with QB ratings of 101.5 and 119.2.

[Se7en]

Injuries, yes. Pressing late, some sure, but he had 7 1st half INT's last year and 3 2nd half INT's.

I wasn't justr efering to INTs but him trying to force plays that were not needed because the pressure was building and the time was running out. If the D can keep us in the lead our offense should be able to put points on the board comfortably.

On the issue of INTs, Schaub is not a interception factory like Favre is, but I do not view INTs from time to time as a sign of a horrible QB. You want your QB to push the ball at times because if they never take risks you can end up with more frequent 3 and outs.

I have plenty of confidence in Schaub to not be worried about the shape of our offense as we move into this season.

I think Kubiak needs to play Schaub more in the pre season

I agree 100%!!!

[101Proof]

Great List especially when you actually read the article. Its about the QB packages (meaning all the QB's on the team). But, with our backups I would have us farther down.

[infantrycak]

Great List especially when you actually read the article. Its about the QB packages (meaning all the QB's on the team). But, with our backups I would have us farther down.

Really? Where is the combination of clearly better backup so much so that it would vault the unit over a better starter?

[raginbull]

Schaub should remain healthy this year. it hasnt been said but another injury forcing him to miss more playingtime could result in us lookin for a new starter next year. Schaub's biggest problem is he hasnt been on the field for enough time to get all that valuable experience needed. given a full season under center he could be a very goood quarterback as he has shown glimpses of. he just needs to be able to put it all together on the field this year. And IMHO he needs to protect the ball more his interceptions havent been to bad but when combined with his fumbles he does turn the ball over alot.

[WaldovonPutz]

The first thing people mention is injuries when talking about Schaub. But always fail to say that a 300 lb tackle purposely dived at his knees twice in the same game. I like to know how Schaub can stop that from happening. I don't care who is behind center if someone dive at your knees the way Williams did to Schaub, you are going to miss at least 6 games if not the whole season.

True, and another time he was thrown to the ground and hurt his shoulder. He had the flu one game. It is what it is. He could just be unlucky, but he's no Bret Favre, is he? Favre has probably been targeted and handled roughly through out his career and has never missed a start. Once he played with a broken finger on his passing hand. No one is wishing Matt ill, they are just a little apprehensive until he plays a whole season. Until then they worry. That is why the FO brought in Grossman; just in case.

[coachdent]

Kind of a silly list because it is top NFL QB PACKAGES. Meaning they put weight in the backups. Silly because factoring in how much a backup will play and in what games is impossible to tell.

To say that Carolina's quarterback situation is #9 is laughable.

Jack Delhomme, last I checked, threw 6 interceptions in the last playoff game. Josh McCown has never shown himself to be anything more than a backup in this league.

The Chargers at #1 is also a reach. I don't think Philip Rivers is an elite quarterback at all. With all due respects to Billy Volek, I don't see where he pushes the Chargers to #1 either. Again, a silly article that mentions Charlie Whitehurst for depth??? LOL

Can you say June/July swoon for sports stories? Reaching for stories to say the least.

[wildroot]

The first thing people mention is injuries when talking about Schaub. But always fail to say that a 300 lb tackle purposely dived at his knees twice in the same game. I like to know how Schaub can stop that from happening. I don't care who is behind center if someone dive at your knees the way Williams did to Schaub, you are going to miss at least 6 games if not the whole season.

Seems to me that in the one game where he was cheap-shotted he was standing there watching the play when he got hit. Schaub could do himself some good if he'd stay focused on what was going on around him afer he's handed/passed the ball rather than watching the play down field.

[texun]

Kind of a silly list because it is top NFL QB PACKAGES. Meaning they put weight in the backups. Silly because factoring in how much a backup will play and in what games is impossible to tell.

To say that Carolina's quarterback situation is #9 is laughable.

Jack Delhomme, last I checked, threw 6 interceptions in the last playoff game. Josh McCown has never shown himself to be anything more than a backup in this league.

The Chargers at #1 is also a reach. I don't think Philip Rivers is an elite quarterback at all. With all due respects to Billy Volek, I don't see where he pushes the Chargers to #1 either. Again, a silly article that mentions Charlie Whitehurst for depth??? LOL

Can you say June/July swoon for sports stories? Reaching for stories to say the least.


Your exactly right that the subject of the article is Quarterback packages, meaning a combination of all of the QB's on the roster. This is more about the ability of the backups on a teams roster than it is the starting QB. This is a meaningless article with no basis.

Who would have thought that Matt Cassell would win 11 games last year?

[thunderkyss]

Schaub should remain healthy this year. it hasnt been said but another injury forcing him to miss more playingtime could result in us lookin for a new starter next year. Schaub's biggest problem is he hasnt been on the field for enough time to get all that valuable experience needed. given a full season under center he could be a very goood quarterback as he has shown glimpses of. he just needs to be able to put it all together on the field this year. And IMHO he needs to protect the ball more his interceptions havent been to bad but when combined with his fumbles he does turn the ball over alot.

You know... all this top 10 stuff is silly. There aren't 10 QBs in this league that are worth a darn. 5, maybe 6 at the most. & if you've got one, you don't kick him to the curb, just because he gets hurt from time to time.

And you don't play him more in the freak'n preseason.

I think Schuab can be one of those 5 or 6.. trust me, I say this after due dillignece, I wasn't always a fan.

If it were that simple to find a special QB, there would be more than 5 or 6.

[raginbull]

You know... all this top 10 stuff is silly. There aren't 10 QBs in this league that are worth a darn. 5, maybe 6 at the most. & if you've got one, you don't kick him to the curb, just because he gets hurt from time to time.

And you don't play him more in the freak'n preseason.

I think Schuab can be one of those 5 or 6.. trust me, I say this after due dillignece, I wasn't always a fan.

If it were that simple to find a special QB, there would be more than 5 or 6.

yeah but you cant tell me that if he misses another six games this year and the Texans have the opportunity they wont end up grabbing The kid from Florida in next years draft. Carr recieved more punishment in his time here and managed to stay on the field throught the constant hits. its a given in the NFL that injury prone Qb's become expendable. getting hurt from time to time would be like 2 or 3 games here and there, I think Matt is past that. But if you read my post properly and others this is a make or break season for matt not only to prove he can stay on the field, but also to see if he can lead this team to the playoffs. That is what he is getting payed for. Why is it you dont see the better qb's injured in the league as often? Because they have been on the field more than Matt, and they have developed a better pocket presence.

[infantrycak]

Seems to me that in the one game where he was cheap-shotted he was standing there watching the play when he got hit. Schaub could do himself some good if he'd stay focused on what was going on around him afer he's handed/passed the ball rather than watching the play down field.

In his first year he was concussed by a helmet to jaw blind side cheap shot 30+ yds away from the action by Drayton Florence. By rule he wasn't allowed to be contacted. The shot was so cheap the NFL sent out a memo that the refs should immediately throw such offenders out of the game.

In his second year he was hit twice from behind by Allen shortly after throwing the ball. No standing around involved.

[blake1776]

If Schaub fails and KUb's still has a job, I think we would go after McCoy rather than Tebow. I think Kubiak would stay as far away from Tebow as possible.

[TheGoaT]

I love McCoy, but I'm still worried how he will translate to the pro level game. Tebow forget about it, he'll be a halfback.

[TheGoaT]

Seems to me that in the one game where he was cheap-shotted he was standing there watching the play when he got hit. Schaub could do himself some good if he'd stay focused on what was going on around him afer he's handed/passed the ball rather than watching the play down field.

So after looking downfield and reading the play, he has to go looking for fat whales trying to eat his knees? He's going to continue looking downfield in case the ball is picked off so he can get in position.

[TheGoaT]

Why is it you dont see the better qb's injured in the league as often? Because they have been on the field more than Matt, and they have developed a better pocket presence.

I seem to remember the god child Tom Brady missing 15 games last year. A shot to the knees is a shot to the knees no matter who you are.

[TheGoaT]

not to mention coming back and throwing for 400 yards in 0 degree weather.

[raginbull]

I seem to remember the god child Tom Brady missing 15 games last year. A shot to the knees is a shot to the knees no matter who you are.

thats true but my point is Brady had been very healthy up to last year. matt has to improve his pocket presence, especially his presnap reads. he needs to better feel and react to the rush. He needs to learn how the good qbs avoided the rush, simple step up, step back or slide to the side. to many times he tries to run away from the rush when he could have simply stepped up or sidestepped. this is just do to a lack of experience.

[srstex]

I remember this article from last year and we were top 10 because of the back-up. We were ahead of Pittsburg ( shows what it's worth ). I like reading these because there is NOTHING to watch/read otherwise. Of course seeing our team ahead of Pittsburg in any article, I will read, more then once. The problem we have now, IMO, is our team is good enough to go to the playoffs, and everyone knows it. One play here, one play there we could have been 10-6 last year, so to look at this team now, playoffs are no longer a dream, much closer, expected.

[Jwwillis1]

If QB's start dropping like flys this year, which is prone to happen. The Texans may be in good position for trade bait in mid-season. Sometimes game expierence becomes more important than youth when your team loses its starter and you are in the thick of the race.

[Bluedog68]

The QBs in next year's draft will be compared to the 1983 draft. It will take a lot to sway these teams from picking a QB even if they don't need one.

Wow! Now that's a statment. Bradford I think is special if he comes out early... Snead turned it on last year, which surprised me after his showing at Texas. He could be solid.... Colt has some tools, but I don't think he is tough enough. Great on short to intermediate throws and out of the shotgun, but I need to see something special from him... Is Tebow even a NFL QB?.. These are the only very good QBs I can think of off the top of my head.

[rush2112mn]

I was expecting lower 20's upper 10s myself....that is pretty generous........Of course I am more concerned about getting to postseason vs some preseason polls..........or power rankings.......

[Bluedog68]

I wasn't comparing them individually to that QB class, but as a draft full of high first round QBs. If you are in need of a QB in the next three years, you better get them in this coming draft. There isn't one even close on the radar for the next three years at least.

I agree with you there. I think if Bradford comes out it really gets beefed up. If that is the case then all 4 could go in the first round, which is saying something... IMO, Snead could really be a shocker if he continues to get better. I wasn't expecting anything from him, but he sure looked good last year.

[jason54858]

I don't agree with a lot of their rankings. I think that Indy and New England should be much higher and we should be a head of the Bills, I also don't understand the Romo thing. He hasn't proven any thing and this year he will be even worse.

Romo will be better. With no T.O in his ear at all times he should be able to spread the ball out more :D

[raginbull]

Wow! Now that's a statment. Bradford I think is special if he comes out early... Snead turned it on last year, which surprised me after his showing at Texas. He could be solid.... Colt has some tools, but I don't think he is tough enough. Great on short to intermediate throws and out of the shotgun, but I need to see something special from him... Is Tebow even a NFL QB?.. These are the only very good QBs I can think of off the top of my head.

tebow could have major upside with the wildcat offense becoming the new flavor!

[Schlauton]

tebow could have major upside with the wildcat offense becoming the new flavor!

The wild-cat sucks now, it was suddenly a surprise last year, but towards the end of the year, people caught on and stopped it.

New England held the wild-cat to 23 yards the second time around, soooo, I just need the first games numbers.

[raginbull]

The wild-cat sucks now, it was suddenly a surprise last year, but towards the end of the year, people caught on and stopped it.

New England held the wild-cat to 23 yards the second time around, soooo, I just need the first games numbers.

true it will no doubt be a fad. Just as scrambling qbs and the cover 2 were.

[Schlauton]

true it will no doubt be a fad. Just as scrambling qbs and the cover 2 were.

Wild-cat was the ONLY reason that Ronnie Brown made the Pro-bowl, and the only reason why he made his only one.

[raginbull]

Wild-cat was the ONLY reason that Ronnie Brown made the Pro-bowl, and the only reason why he made his only one.

Brown has been productive outside the wildcat also when he's healthy. with runningbacks like tomlinson, parker, and mcgahee it is hard for others in the AFC to make the pro-bowl. i give him the credit he's due. he can be a game changing hb. he's just had some bad coaches in miami and bad general management that couldnt keep or put a respectable offensive line in front of him.