2010 NFL Draft speculation.

[Wolf6151]

Is it too early to speculate about next years draft and the Texans positional needs? The major needs that I see are in the secondary CB/SS/FS, obviously the weakest part of the team and in extreme need of some quality talent. I also think we need some more quality talent added to the O-line, DT, and RB positions. My 2010 positional mock draft looks like this.

1. CB-hopefully Trevard Lindley or Joe Haden, a true #1 starter to replace Dunta.
2. FS-Major Wright, quality talent to replace Wilson and be our FS for years to come.
3. G/C-Thomas Austin, Eric Olsen, or Joe Thomas, some quality talent that pushes the starters for a starting position and moves some sub par talent off the roster.
4. RB-Anthony Dixon, Charles Scott, or LeGarrette Blount, a big power RB.
5. DT-hopefully someone with talent falls and can add some depth to the rotation.
6. LB or SS-again addded depth and good special teams play.
7. P-good punter that will be alot cheaper than Turk.

Opinions? I know injury and FA will change the order and importance of these positions but it's a start.

[TheLBCoach]

I think LeGarrette Blount is a 1st Rounder if he builds upon his Junior season.

Even still, I'd go with Blount in Round 1 in a heartbeat. RB and CB are the only positions I'd spend a 1st Rounder on in 2010.

[GoldenHolden]

I think LeGarrette Blount is a 1st Rounder if he builds upon his Junior season.

Even still, I'd go with Blount in Round 1 in a heartbeat. RB and CB are the only positions I'd spend a 1st Rounder on in 2010.

Although I agree it looks like RB and DB are the most important positions for the first round in next years draft, it is way to early to make that decision. We have a number of guys that are in contract years that may not be back, injuries can be a concern, and some guys could have big drops in production. Just an example, what if Schaub gets hurt and misses the majority of the season? I love Schaub but in that scenario, I would atleast entertain the idea of going qb. What if Eric Berry or Taylor Mays are available when we pick (hopefully they are long gone)? That is a position we are weak at and they would definetely help the back end of the defense. What if it turns out the db of the future is already on the team? I'm not trying to bash you, this is a thread for predictions for the 2010 draft but I don't think we can narrow our choice down to a couple of positions yet.

[TheLBCoach]

Although I agree it looks like RB and DB are the most important positions for the first round in next years draft, it is way to early to make that decision. We have a number of guys that are in contract years that may not be back, injuries can be a concern, and some guys could have big drops in production. Just an example, what if Schaub gets hurt and misses the majority of the season? I love Schaub but in that scenario, I would atleast entertain the idea of going qb. What if Eric Berry or Taylor Mays are available when we pick (hopefully they are long gone)? That is a position we are weak at and they would definetely help the back end of the defense. What if it turns out the db of the future is already on the team? I'm not trying to bash you, this is a thread for predictions for the 2010 draft but I don't think we can narrow our choice down to a couple of positions yet.

You're right, but it's still fun to speculate.

What if Mike Williams is there when we pick? He's currently rated a solid 2nd Rounder, but his stock is quickly rising.

If you don't know, Mike Williams is a WR from Syracuse who was suspended for the 2008 season under allegations of cheating. GREAT talent on the field, though. He will, of course, be Doug Marrone's Marques Colston this season up in NY. 6'2" 220 and a 4.49 40. Andre's future replacement, undoubtedly.

Remember, AJ isn't getting any younger. The time IS coming to think about our future at the position.

[TexansFan03]

I think we will build the secondary with the first two rounds.

[Wolf6151]

I think we will build the secondary with the first two rounds.

I sure hope so, I'm tired of spending so many high draft picks on the D-line. We need to spread some of that talent around to other areas of the team. A 1st round CB and 2nd round FS/SS would really help our secondary. I figure that Dunta will leave and that next year we'll be starting 1st round CB pick and Jacques Reeves with McCain playing nickle and Quin as the first alternative and Molden will be gone. Here's my current extremely early 2010 mock draft.

1. CB-Trevard Lindley, Kentucky.
2. FS-Major Wright, Florida
3. G-Thomas Austin, Clemson
4. RB-LaGarrette Blount, Oregon
5. S-Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech, not sure if he lasts this long.
5. DT-Al Woods, LSU pick from the TJ trade.
6. OLB-Luthur Brown, USC
7. P-Zoltan Mesko-Michigan

[wildroot]

It wouldn't upset me in the slightest if we spent our entire 7 picks on safeties and CBs in the '10 draft. I'm so tired of watching QBs tossing the ball to wide open receivers the second they feel any pressure from our defensive line. Mario ought to be registering 22-25 sacks a season year in and year out, and until we get a shut-down defensive backfield that's not going to happen.

[TheLBCoach]

It wouldn't upset me in the slightest if we spent our entire 7 picks on safeties and CBs in the '10 draft. I'm so tired of watching QBs tossing the ball to wide open receivers the second they feel any pressure from our defensive line. Mario ought to be registering 22-25 sacks a season year in and year out, and until we get a shut-down defensive backfield that's not going to happen.

Round 1 - Major Wright, FS, Florida
Round 2 - Jerrard Tarrant, CB, Georgia Tech

That'll be a great way to start it.

Too bad Tarrant had a rape charge levied against him last year. Bob McNair will only take guys who attended Bible study regularly as small children.

[VBot]

Where's the QB on this list? I think it's time to get one to groom or get ready to start 2010. Who's the unknown/sleeper QB?

[TheLBCoach]

Where's the QB on this list? I think it's time to get one to groom or get ready to start 2010. Who's the unknown/sleeper QB?


Jarrett Brown from West Virginia. 6'4" 220

Darryl Clark from Penn State. 6'2" 231

You can't forget about Ryan Perriloux from Jacksonville State, formerly of LSU.

[rocknrandy]

right now on my hot list is ...

Lindley and Haden at CB

Berry, Mays, and Jones at safety

Im really high on Tony Pike. The dude is a stud at cincy. I wish there was a way to get him and groom him. I have a feeling he mite be special.

Oh and Myron Rolle, he is a great character guy and can play pertty good.

he was the guy that got the road scholar to attend Oxford Medical last year and didnt enter the 09 draft. But will be eligable for the 2010 draft.

He just looks like a texan.

[foozball]

Morgan Burnett from GT is a safety to keep an eye on

As well as Chad Jones, but I don't think he'll enter

[chjoak]

A few guys I hope we are looking at...

QB
Jarrett Brown, West Virginia
Daryll Clark, Penn State
Tony Pike, Cincinnati

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech
Chris Brown, Oklahoma
Charles Scott, LSU
Toby Gerhart, Stanford
Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State

WR
Brandon LaFell, LSU
Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas
Jordan Shipley, Texas
David Nelson, Florida

OT
Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
Selvish Capers, West Virginia
Ed Wang, Virginia Tech

OG
Mike Johnson, Alabama
Shelley Smith, Colorado State

DE
Auston English, Oklahoma

DT
Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
Vince Oghobaase, Duke
Boo Robinson, Wake Forest
DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma

LB
Sean Lee, Penn State

CB
Joe Haden, Florida
Trevard Lindley, Kentucky
Crezdon Butler, Clemson
Stephan Virgil, Virginia Tech
Donovan Warren, Michigan
Jerome Murphy, South Florida

S
Reshad Jones, Georgia
Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt
Major Wright, Florida
Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech
Myron Rolle, Florida State
Cody Grimm, Virginia Tech

[outofhnd]

here is a guard I really like and some other players I have been impressed by

Sergio Kindle - LG - Virginia Tech
Ryan Franklin - LG - Miami
Robert hughes - RB - Notre Dame
Kyle Mccarthy - SS Notre dame
Darryl Clark QB- Penn State
Jimmy Clausen QB - Notre Dame
Ryan Williams - RB - Virginia Tech
Reggie Upchurch - RB - Alabama
Sam young RT - Notre Dame
Armando Allen - RB - Notre Dame
Ryan Mallet - QB - Arkansas
Asher Allen - CB - Georgia
Brandon Minor - RB- Michigan

[houstonsportsfan09]

here is a guard I really like and some other players I have been impressed by

Sergio Kindle - LG - Virginia Tech
Ryan Franklin - LG - Miami
Robert hughes - RB - Notre Dame
Kyle Mccarthy - SS Notre dame
Darryl Clark QB- Penn State
Jimmy Clausen QB - Notre Dame
Ryan Williams - RB - Virginia Tech
Reggie Upchurch - RB - Alabama
Sam young RT - Notre Dame
Armando Allen - RB - Notre Dame
Ryan Mallet - QB - Arkansas
Asher Allen - CB - Georgia
Brandon Minor - RB- Michigan

Sergio Kindle - LG - Virginia Tech ???

There is no such player on the VT roster? Not when I looked.
There is a Sergio Kindle who plays for UT and is a hybrid DE/LB

[Texian]

Wolf based by your breakdown and if the draft were today, based on players I watched, this is my early prognostication:

1st RD - Brandon McGhee, CB, Wake Forest, 0600, 190 lb.
2nd RD - Nate Allen, FS, South Florida, 0601, 206 lb.
3rd RD - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida, 0606, 265 lb.
4th RD - Ben Tate, RB, Auburn, 0511, 218 lb.
4th RD - Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee, 0602, 327 lb.

[Wolf6151]

Sergio Kindle - LG - Virginia Tech ???

There is no such player on the VT roster? Not when I looked.
There is a Sergio Kindle who plays for UT and is a hybrid DE/LB


He's talking about Sergio Render from VT, very good OG.

[houstonsportsfan09]

He's talking about Sergio Render from VT, very good OG.

Oh, my mistake.

[chjoak]

Wolf based by your breakdown and if the draft were today, based on players I watched, this is my early prognostication:

1st RD - Brandon McGhee, CB, Wake Forest, 0600, 190 lb.
2nd RD - Nate Allen, FS, South Florida, 0601, 206 lb.
3rd RD - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida, 0606, 265 lb.
4th RD - Ben Tate, RB, Auburn, 0511, 218 lb.
4th RD - Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee, 0602, 327 lb.

Why another DE? Why not an OG or OC instead?

[Bluedog68]

Besides the obvious guys (Mays, Suh, ect.) some guys that have really stuck out are Mallett and Jake Bequette at AR, Marcus White and Patrick Robinson at Florida St., Eric Decker at Minnesota, and Von Miller at A&M. Bad thing is none are at a position of need right now (besides Robinson). Mallett, Bequette, White, and Miller will probably stay another year. So this is really a useless post by me :o, but they have stuck out the most.

[chjoak]

- Mallett won't be coming out. He will be draft eligible but he also has 2 years of eligibility and this is his 1st year to see any success as a starter. He won't get 1st round hype this year once he starts taking a pounding from some of the better SEC teams. He also doesn't fit Kubiak's mold. He is 6'7" with very limited mobility. Kubiak likes QBs that are capable rolling out of the pocket. Mallett would get killed on naked bootlegs.
- Decker looks awesome. Seems to be a speedier version of Walters. The only issue is that he has had a number of injury issues over his career.
- Miller is quickly showing the potential many expected of him coming out of high school. Biggest issue with him is that he doesn't fit the 4-3 D very well. Texas A&M ran him as a 4-3 WLB last season and he was aweful. This season they are running a 3-4/4-3 hybrid and he is playing a role similar to a 3-4 OLB, where his primary role is to blitz the QB. He is at his best when he is allowed to pin his ears back but at just 220ish lbs he wouldn't fit well as an every down LB. My bet is he is drafted by one of the 3-4 teams to be a pass rush specialist. Even though he is undersized by typical 3-4 OLB standards, he is quick and good at getting around blockers.

[Texian]

Why another DE? Why not an OG or OC instead?

Because Antonio Smith has never done anything close $35 million on the field. A wasted FA signing and a waste of money. Barwin is a situational pass rusher at best but only has 1 year playing defense, a long term project at best and probably better suited to playing the 3-4. The Texans still have no Pass Rush and the idea is to get better and the Texans still need to do that opposite Mario.

[chjoak]

I understand your frustration. I just think they may try to fix the OL before the give up on Smith.

[CPTTexan]

Besides the obvious guys (Mays, Suh, ect.) some guys that have really stuck out are Mallett and Jake Bequette at AR, Marcus White and Patrick Robinson at Florida St., Eric Decker at Minnesota, and Von Miller at A&M. Bad thing is none are at a position of need right now (besides Robinson). Mallett, Bequette, White, and Miller will probably stay another year. So this is really a useless post by me :o, but they have stuck out the most.

Please for the love of God, just say no to Decker! How many TE's do we really need on our roster? We're up to what....15, 16 now with this past draft? Yes, that's sarcasm!

[outofhnd]

Yea I ment Sergio Render im not saying draft all these guys but alot of these guys look impressive and could be steals in draft or post draft FA. I really like Hughes at ND. Look for a video of the 2 pt conversion run where he takes like 9 defenders into the endzone with him he could be an excellent slaton compliment if what we have does not last

[chjoak]

Decker is a WR

[CPTTexan]

Decker is a WR

Okay....then he's one HUGE WR. Another point to make is that WR is also not a position of need.

[chjoak]

Okay....then he's one HUGE WR. Another point to make is that WR is also not a position of need.

Decker's Gopher profile (http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=261447)

The Gophers list him at 6'3" 220. I would say that is a solid size for WR. I agree that WR is not a significant position of need but it shouldn't be something we neglect either. Walter is a FA, Davis is streaky, JJ & Anderson are career backups and AJ is a 7-8 year vet now.

[Bluedog68]

Okay....then he's one HUGE WR. Another point to make is that WR is also not a position of need.

Yeah in my original post I said "Bad thing is none of these guys are at a position of need."

[Bluedog68]

Decker is a beast that prob won't be drafted real early due to measurables. I do think he is a better college wr than Bryant or Benn.

On another note. Von Miller gave Okung fits all day. I know he's a junior, undersized, a one trick pony, but he is one of the best pass-rushers I have ever seen. He made Okung, and whoever else tried to help with double teams, look horrible.

[Bluedog68]

Joe Haden was amazing against LSU. That guy is so fast reacting it is unreal. I'd love to see the Texans draft him in the first next year. Outside of Eric Berry he is the player I want on the Texans the most now.

[foozball]

Joe Haden is probably #1 on the list right now. We are in need of some top notch talent at that position.

In round 2, I'd love to get a safety like Nate Allen or Morgan Burnett

[naterchamp16]

Joe Haden is probably #1 on the list right now. We are in need of some top notch talent at that position.

In round 2, I'd love to get a safety like Nate Allen or Morgan Burnett

what do ya think of Ros-i-Dowling???

[Bluedog68]

what do ya think of Ros-i-Dowling???

I hear he's a baller, but I haven't seen him play enough to pass any judgement. Ya'll would have a better idea than me.

Was watching that Cox kid at Okie St. and he didn't look too good to me.

[chjoak]

Parrish Cox has decent instincts and ball skills but he is far too slow to play CB in the NFL. He has the size and speed to make a decent FS if he transitions well.

[foozball]

what do ya think of Ros-i-Dowling???

Dowling is a baller. Good all around CB. Question is he quick enough and fast enough for our system because we play alot of man-man. Only reason why I question that is because he's a bigger guy at 6'2

[naterchamp16]

Instead of trying to fix everything at one draft how about fix the defense first. Biggest problem here is Secondary and nose tackle. So I say we get our Corner in the first round, nose tackle in the second round and safety in the third round.... im hoping for Ros-i-Dowling, Joe Haden, or Lindley second round nose tackle cody, oghobaase, or Robinson and third round safety Nate Allen or Burnett... Then later rounds draft BPA (however not tight ends)

[Wolf6151]

Instead of trying to fix everything at one draft how about fix the defense first. Biggest problem here is Secondary and nose tackle. So I say we get our Corner in the first round, nose tackle in the second round and safety in the third round.... im hoping for Ros-i-Dowling, Joe Haden, or Lindley second round nose tackle cody, oghobaase, or Robinson and third round safety Nate Allen or Burnett... Then later rounds draft BPA (however not tight ends)

I like that theory but it ignores the O-line which needs lots of help. Also Burnett won't be around in the 3rd round, he'll most likely go in the late 1st or very early 2nd round.

[vanknights2002]

I like that theory but it ignores the O-line which needs lots of help. Also Burnett won't be around in the 3rd round, he'll most likely go in the late 1st or very early 2nd round.

there are still good O-lineman in the later rounds. Eric Olsen, Thomas Austin, Mitch Petrus are expected to go after the 3rd. Burnett wont be there like you said, but Jordan Lake will be.

[Crushing56]

Joe Haden has been nothing but stellar for Florida so I cant see us passing on him in the first if he's available. The kid definitely has potential to be a shutdown corner in the nfl. Seeing as this is the deepest safety class in recent memory I see us waiting until the second and checking out who remains on the board. We could be sitting pretty at our spot in the second round with a choice between Reshad Jones, Earl Thomas, Major Wright, and/or Morgan Burnett. Then I say we pick up a quality guard in the third and try to address RB through FA.

[vanknights2002]

In the later round at RB Anthony Dixon looks like a power back.Here's a video from when he played against LSU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTZ7J8FtKkM

[Wolf6151]

I've been thinking about Dixon as well and think that he's probably run a slow 40 time at the combine. I think he can be had in the 4th or 5th round. In that video he seems a little slow, hesitant, and does a stutter step close to the line several times.

[vanknights2002]

I've been thinking about Dixon as well and think that he's probably run a slow 40 time at the combine. I think he can be had in the 4th or 5th round. In that video he seems a little slow, hesitant, and does a stutter step close to the line several times.

But he does lower his shoulder we he hits. Yes, will have a slow 40 somewhere around 4.50 - 4.60. Should go in Round 5-6, would have good value there.

[Slick]

Where's the QB on this list? I think it's time to get one to groom or get ready to start 2010. Who's the unknown/sleeper QB?

Why would we need a Qb we already have a good one along with some good back up QB's
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