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TexansNutt
08-31-2009, 08:00 PM
This guy has earned to be the NEXT contract signed!

TexansNutt
08-31-2009, 08:37 PM
Od too!!!

taylor90
08-31-2009, 09:13 PM
demeco ryans has proved he deserves big money, he is making plays behing the line, in the secondarys and on the sidelines. over 10 tckles in less than 3 quarters and a sack. he is A BEAST

SlatonBrigade
08-31-2009, 09:15 PM
Pay demeco!

fdknuckles
08-31-2009, 09:59 PM
after tonight i would say open the check book you guys asked for it now he is delivering so get it done.

hurummph!! Hurummph

Mustyzulu1979
08-31-2009, 10:15 PM
Ill give him all the tips I make at work this week.

Fingers5
08-31-2009, 10:21 PM
Couldnt agree more - OD is IMHO a good tight end in a system that works very well for him, but he aint worth big bucks - Dunta, is still a game time decision if he is worth the $ - Demeco is worth what he wants and needs to be signed ASAP

TransplantTexan1
08-31-2009, 11:17 PM
DeMeco will get paid. The problem is that you can only pay so much at one time, and a big contract to DeMeco means a sizable signing bonus (read: guaranteed money). With first round picks, other valuable potential free agents and so forth, you have to pick and chose when to lock your better players up.

And even then you have to make sure you don't overpay and for too long. Part of the dispute with Dunta, as far as I know, includes the length of the Texans' proposed deal as well as the guaranteed amount.

Yosarian
09-01-2009, 02:26 AM
Demeco has another year on his current contract he signed.

He will get his big payday. He was all over the place tonight. Amazing game by him. I was blown away by his play tonight.

Dayad
09-01-2009, 05:21 AM
DeMeco is the poster child for the Texans defense. Much like Urlacher is to the Bears or Peppers is to Carolina. Sign him and pay him. The one person on that defense that should be the highest paid is him.

JMO

TheGoaT
09-01-2009, 07:47 AM
I think the Texans will make an example of Demeco and he will be the first one to get an extension this season.

lonestarpigskin
09-01-2009, 07:50 AM
DeMeco will get paid. The problem is that you can only pay so much at one time, and a big contract to DeMeco means a sizable signing bonus (read: guaranteed money). With first round picks, other valuable potential free agents and so forth, you have to pick and chose when to lock your better players up.

And even then you have to make sure you don't overpay and for too long. Part of the dispute with Dunta, as far as I know, includes the length of the Texans' proposed deal as well as the guaranteed amount.

I agree with everyone...a deal needs to get done...and it will get done. I think Travis Johnson was counting about 3.5 mil against the cap this year. With him gone, I think this paves the way to work out a deal with Demeco's agent. Maybe Rick Smith will even get it done before the season, like Eric Winston last year.

I also feel they should work out a deal with Owen Daniels. But, if he's asking for top tight end money, I'm not sure b/c maybe many people are right about him, that he's a good tight end in a very good system, so it highlights him more. But, with Kevin Walter tweeking his hammy last night, they'll need Owen more.

naterchamp16
09-01-2009, 10:33 AM
DEMECO WAS SO NASTY LAST NIGHT!!!! what an amazing game for him...

zanth91
09-01-2009, 10:58 AM
Pay him. This will also send a good message to DR telling him that if he shows up and deserves the money, he'll get it.

Dantex
09-01-2009, 12:24 PM
I think DR is history. I don't think Kubiak is going to play him when he missed all of training camp. That will send a bad message to the rest of the team. I do think we should open the check book ( I mean Boby MaC's check book) for Demico.

I'm beginning to wonder about this myself because of the comments made by Kubiak regarding TJ. He said they didn't want to go backward, and since he hadn't been in camp putting him in at this point would be stepping backward. However, I'm not sure if we can even trade DR since he's not under contract. Also, I don't think that we've had any CBs really step up enough to make the organization or myself comfortable enough to let DR go.

lonestarpigskin
09-01-2009, 12:33 PM
I'm beginning to wonder about this myself because of the comments made by Kubiak regarding TJ. He said they didn't want to go backward, and since he hadn't been in camp putting him in at this point would be stepping backward. However, I'm not sure if we can even trade DR since he's not under contract. Also, I don't think that we've had any CBs really step up enough to make the organization or myself comfortable enough to let DR go.

Dunta can not be fined or traded until he signs his tender. My guess if he's really itching to play, he'll do it today or tomorrow. BUT, business minds know that won't happen. He'll sign his tender either next Saturday or Sunday.

Here's what is making me crazy...all sports talking heads in this city are saying the team is gonna regret trading Travis away b/c he was their best run stopper, and that Amobi Okoye is too small and needs a "Space eater" next to him. Travis was only 6'3 and 305. Del Juan is bigger, so is Shaun Cody. I like to think of myself as a good football mind, but the logic there doesn't seem to work with me. Was TJ basically a small space eater, or are these talking heads not making sense?

wildroot
09-01-2009, 01:05 PM
Dunta can not be fined or traded until he signs his tender. My guess if he's really itching to play, he'll do it today or tomorrow. BUT, business minds know that won't happen. He'll sign his tender either next Saturday or Sunday.

Here's what is making me crazy...all sports talking heads in this city are saying the team is gonna regret trading Travis away b/c he was their best run stopper, and that Amobi Okoye is too small and needs a "Space eater" next to him. Travis was only 6'3 and 305. Del Juan is bigger, so is Shaun Cody. I like to think of myself as a good football mind, but the logic there doesn't seem to work with me. Was TJ basically a small space eater, or are these talking heads not making sense?

I keep thinking that with TJ we had the #3 ranked offense last year. Not saying it was due to TJ, but he was a part of it....just sayin'. At least he displayed some attitude...

I guess with Faggins gone everyone needed someone new to beat up on.

TheGoaT
09-01-2009, 01:07 PM
because of Travis Johnson we had the 3rd best offense? How the hell do you connect those dots?

Number 34
09-01-2009, 01:09 PM
Meco will get paid.

OD will get paid.

D Rob will probably come in and play after a few games of the regular season. He will get traded or sign a long term contract. I think the FO will lean towards a trade because more and more players are acting like Brandon Marshall and Crabtree and they probably don't want to deal with D Rob acting like a baby for the next four years.

TJ was a fat body. People dog Schaub because they think he is fragile then turn around and wonder why we traded TJ. QBs are supposed to be fragile thats why we protect them with linemen and extra rules. DTs are supposed to be sturdy. First round DTs are supposed to be sturdy and superbad. TJ was niether of those. I wouldn't be surprised that Kubes had plans to cut TJ since last year or the year before.

Kubes will train up the youngsters to replace TJ and D Rob without any problems. Today's noobs are tomorrows superstars and they are cheaper. :)

jvaldez1984
09-01-2009, 01:09 PM
because of Travis Johnson we had the 3rd best offense? How the hell do you connect those dots?

TJ ate all the offensive players lunches which kept them lean and mean...

Number 34
09-01-2009, 01:21 PM
because of Travis Johnson we had the 3rd best offense? How the hell do you connect those dots?

Because TJ nosed up to the feeding trough and didn't leave any grub for the O Line. That kept them lean and mean.

TheGoaT
09-01-2009, 01:25 PM
lol look at all these quality responses.

Coach
09-01-2009, 02:36 PM
demeco is the captain of this team and i still cannot believe he hasn't gotten a long-term deal done...this is the kind of guy you want leading your defense...he's one of the top 5 MLB's in the game today...pay him like one and be done with it

Wolf6151
09-01-2009, 04:51 PM
Demeco deserves the money and needs the longterm contract extension, he's the captain of the defense and plays like it. Pay the man. Owen Daniels is also an excellent player and shows why he's considered one of the best TE's in the game, but I think the Texans will probably try to save some money and either trade him if possible or just let him walk. I don't think they'll offer him any more than they already have. The Texans have already made OD an offer that would have made him one of the highest paid TE's in the game but he turned it down. OD is getting greedy and wants to be #1. I think they drafted his replacements a few months back.

TexSid
09-01-2009, 07:21 PM
Demeco was unbelievable last night...he tackled everything (too bad few others did!)

houstonsportsfan09
09-01-2009, 09:45 PM
This is the DeMeco of old. The DeMeco we're used to seeing.

wildroot
09-01-2009, 10:18 PM
So what happens in a few years when Mario comes up for a new contract? Seems like whenever someone distinguishes themselves on this team they get the cold shoulder from management. Dunta, DeMeco, Owen...Dunta was hurt so I understand us wanting to see a good year out of him first, but the other two? This certainly dosen't make someone on the outside think that the Texans take care of their key players.... Just thinking out loud.

houstonsportsfan09
09-01-2009, 10:30 PM
So what happens in a few years when Mario comes up for a new contract? Seems like whenever someone distinguishes themselves on this team they get the cold shoulder from management. Dunta, DeMeco, Owen...Dunta was hurt so I understand us wanting to see a good year out of him first, but the other two? This certainly dosen't make someone on the outside think that the Texans take care of their key players.... Just thinking out loud.

Sounds like what DeMeco said this past June but not all is true.

Here's what Ryans said:

"It's not so much about me, Owen, Dunta. It's about setting a standard that the league has thrived on: That guys who go out and play and perform well, who outperform their contracts, they get new deals, they get taken care of. But we haven't seen that taking place here with the Texans. I haven't seen one guy rewarded from within.

As Kuharsky points out in the article, Eric Winston and Andre Johnson were both rewarded with contract extensions over the past two seasons for their outstanding play. Not mentioned was that Chester Pitts and Kris Brown also received extensions in 2005, which in Pitts' case is nearing completion to the tune of nearly $20 million earned.

I recall a couple of recent RFA matches for Vonta Leach and David Anderson as well.

And not to mention Kris Brown rewarded with another new contract.

http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2009m6d15-Ryans-isnt-letting-facts-get-in-the-way-of-a-good-argument

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/2025/might-hovering-contract-issues-distract-texans

Texas Hellfire
09-01-2009, 11:28 PM
The Texans Organization is just this very CHEEP!! I find it very sad that we can always seem to bring and pay players who are on their last leg or just can't play at all. Why waste money on them when you have your players that have proven what they can do. This organization doesn't seem to be loyal to anyone but their checkbook but keep it up they will soon see empty seats if they don't get this team rolling.

TheGoaT
09-02-2009, 06:57 AM
you guys are forgetting OD was offered a nice deal and turned it down. Demeco is still under contract, so its not like they dont still have amble time to give him an extension. If you are looking to assign blame, blame the agents. They are the *******s that cause these problems by trying to get ridiculous amounts of money just to make their resumes look better for future clients.

wildroot
09-02-2009, 08:12 AM
you guys are forgetting OD was offered a nice deal and turned it down. Demeco is still under contract, so its not like they dont still have amble time to give him an extension. If you are looking to assign blame, blame the agents. They are the *******s that cause these problems by trying to get ridiculous amounts of money just to make their resumes look better for future clients.

Isn't Owen looking for a long term deal though, the security and stability being more important than the $$$$$s?

TheGoaT
09-02-2009, 08:22 AM
Isn't Owen looking for a long term deal though, the security and stability being more important than the $$$$$s?

They offered him a long term deal, but all we the public were told was the dollar amount, so who knows maybe it was a detail somewhere in the contract he didnt agree with. Could have been how the money was broken up or the incentives, who knows. I think the pending uncapped year is putting a big damper on getting deals done.

ubecool454
09-02-2009, 10:24 AM
This guy has earned to be the NEXT contract signed!

yeah I have to agree. He is a tackling maching when healthy. I'm kind of anxious to see him and a healthy cushing diles/adibi.

rush2112mn
09-02-2009, 11:36 AM
This guy has earned to be the NEXT contract signed!


amen......

rocknrandy
09-02-2009, 06:13 PM
Agreed!!! Pay #59

plan & simple

Texan66
09-02-2009, 09:23 PM
Loved that big hit on Vikings rb. Demeco is a great leader for our defense!!! Dude is a freakn beast and needs to get paid for his leadership

Se7en
09-03-2009, 12:55 AM
I love this thread for 1 reason. It proves that if players get on the field and lead the team by example, the fans will get their back when it comes time to discuss their contract. Dunta missed that memo and got greedy!

I am all for Demeco getting a big fat payday because he could just take the field and half arse it until the season was over and he could get paid. Instead he is playing as hard as he ever has to make this team better and prove how much he is worth in the process.

Its an honor to have him on the field!

Whiskeyrbl
09-03-2009, 05:09 AM
I love this thread for 1 reason. It proves that if players get on the field and lead the team by example, the fans will get their back when it comes time to discuss their contract. Dunta missed that memo and got greedy!

I am all for Demeco getting a big fat payday because he could just take the field and half arse it until the season was over and he could get paid. Instead he is playing as hard as he ever has to make this team better and prove how much he is worth in the process.

Its an honor to have him on the field!

I concur 100%. Captain 'Meco was an all out beast Monday night. It is nice to see him playing at 100% or in his case 110% again. That 2006 draft has to be one of the best ever. I say give the man a 7 year top $ contract and sew him up to retire a Texan. He leads by example and is a compliment to his profession. Now #23 needs to pull the dreads out of his eyes and see how a true leader acts(action speaks louder than words).

Wolfscar
09-03-2009, 07:17 AM
I strongly suspect that deals are going to start getting put together once the final roster cuts are made. That's a lot to consider on its own, for one thing, and it also means that the FO can approach the contract talks knowing exactly what kind of salary outlook they're dealing with.

If they have any sense though, DeMeco will get paid well, for a long time, and he'll be first to be handed the deal he's after. Like others on this thread say - make an example of him, show the D-Robs of the world that if you back up your words with action on the field then you get justly rewarded.

As for the others, D-Rob needs to show up and prove what he's worth and OD needs to get a grip, stop listening to his agent and recognise a fair deal when it's offered to him.