Dunta signs Sunday... who gets cut next?

[NormZinNJ]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6604719.html

We will have to cut a player for him to sign... I guessing either Glenn Martinez or Andre Hall...

NZ

[jvaldez1984]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6604719.html

We will have to cut a player for him to sign... I guessing either Glenn Martinez or Andre Hall...

NZ

My guess would be Hall...I'm excited Dunta is back...

[vanknights2002]

Andre Hall gets cut
Glenn Martinez has made plays in every game.

[Dayad]

He said he did what was best for him. I believe that one. Put him out there on special teams and sit his butt down.

[jvaldez1984]

He said he did what was best for him. I believe that one. Put him out there on special teams and sit his butt down.

Man am i glad you're not the coach...thats the STUPIDEST idea I've heard...but everyone is entitled to their own opinions...

[vanknights2002]

I say game his a chance to win his job. If he is in game shape, like he say. he wins his job back.

[CPTTexan]

Man am i glad you're not the coach...thats the STUPIDEST idea I've heard...but everyone is entitled to their own opinions...

You're the one who's said in other threads that "we", meaning fans who aren't behind DRob for his actions will be on his jock once he starts making plays aren't you? Tell me...what does his jock feel like...because you're obviously already on it!

I'm all for him being on the team because he is a good player...not great...but good. Has your boy been to the Pro-Bowl? Has he deserved to go to the Pro-Bowl in any season he's been here? Those questions are rhetorical and have the same answer!

I really hope for our team that he does come out and play at a high level, but seeing as how it's a new defensive scheme and new D-Coord. I just don't see him fully contributing until about week 3 or 4. Game speed just isn't something you can work on at home.

I'll cheer him if he can consistently make plays but I'll be far from riding his jock and if they franchise him next year then that's fine. Hopefully we can get someone better in FA or the draft (preferably FA since rooks are untested) and trade the guy for some picks.

[ohcop72]

I for one hope we do not start DRob for a few weeks if at all. He has not been with the team or new Defense and this could put him on the wrong page of everyone else. This could cause serious problems.

Now for my opinion on this situation. I think Kubes sits DRob for the entire season, other teams do not get to see him play and can not gauge his rehab or ability to play. Next year we cut him and he leaves wishing he had taken the money offered stayed with his TEAM and was out there playing for us being apart of this wonderful team. Now he becomes an example to other whiny players in the league who try to pull this crap. Every situation is different for every player, but DRobs was stubborn greed a higher priority than his team. Bash me if you like but I am officially a DRob hater.....:mad:

[VBot]

I guess he got tired of delivering pizza.

I never got my pizza coupons. Thanks Dunta.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Too little too late for him to start Week 1 IMO. And then he can be more unhappy....with himself.

[bckey]

Hopefully it will be sign and trade. Get rid of this chump. I don't care how good he turns out to be post injury.

[TheLBCoach]

You guys think Dreessen is at risk? We've got Casey, who can deep snap. He's also performed well at TE.

[VBot]

Hopefully it will be sign and trade. Get rid of this chump. I don't care how good he turns out to be post injury.

I don't think there's a team that wants him. He's a 2 at best. We have always been weak in this department. Go ahead Dunta, prove me wrong. I still wait for a pair of good, not so-so corners and a hard hitting safety. Does Ronnie Lott have any kids in college playing football?

[protoTexans]

You guys think Dreessen is at risk? We've got Casey, who can deep snap. He's also performed well at TE.

Well according to Dunta.... I do not see JD going anywhere. Yes JC can deep snap, but it will take him out of possible other assignments on certain plays, we need 2 LS with the cut of CH. Besdies JD is a good blocking TE for the 2 TE sets we will be running...

[Wolf6151]

When Dunta returns I'm hoping the cut is Jacoby Jones, he's had his chances and hasn't shown much, I'd rather have Martinez.

[TheGoaT]

I think the Texans will work Dunta in slowly. I dont think he starts against the Jets. Probably comes in during some nickel or to spell McCain. This board needs one of those :smug: emoticons so I can toot my own horn when I said he would come in on sunday.

[markbeth]

When Dunta returns I'm hoping the cut is Jacoby Jones, he's had his chances and hasn't shown much, I'd rather have Martinez.

has anyone else returned a punt for us all preseason? i doubt they will cut him without first finding a replacement for him.

[Rett]

like they did Mario when he first comes back. A good round of Boos should bring him back down to earth.

[mydaughters2]

Hopefully it will be sign and trade. Get rid of this chump. I don't care how good he turns out to be post injury.

Highly agree this guy is a joke, he failed to support his team mates since they have been busting thier butts off since July 31st.... in TC, now this guy want to come in and collect his $$$$. Send this guy to Denver, we always seem to pick up thier trash.....

[SuperstarII]

Highly agree this guy is a joke, he failed to support his team mates since they have been busting thier butts off since July 31st.... in TC, now this guy want to come in and collect his $$$$. Send this guy to Denver, we always seem to pick up thier trash.....

yup and he caused all the bad chemistry about players wanting more money as well.

see DeMeco and Daniels

[South Texan]

I am still thinking they will get as much as they can from him this season, franchise him again next year, work out a long term deal with him another team can live with (probably Atlanta) and trade him away next year.

[jvaldez1984]

I'm all for him being on the team because he is a good player...not great...but good. Has your boy been to the Pro-Bowl? Has he deserved to go to the Pro-Bowl in any season he's been here? Those questions are rhetorical and have the same answer!

Hopefully we can get someone better in FA or the draft (preferably FA since rooks are untested) and trade the guy for some picks.

Lets compare the Texans ALL-TIME LEADER in interceptions with Chris Gamble who is a VERY GOOD corner who just so happens to have been drafted in the first rd of the 2004 draft.

Gamble: 355 Tackes and 20 Ints in 77 Games...he got a 6yr $53.5M contract
Robinson: 329 Tackles and 13 Ints in 68 Games...

[Sic_'Em]

and when signed he will be our #1 CB and instantly improve our run defense. stop arguing over another man's money. it will get worked out one way or another.

[CPTTexan]

Lets compare the Texans ALL-TIME LEADER in interceptions with Chris Gamble who is a VERY GOOD corner who just so happens to have been drafted in the first rd of the 2004 draft.

Gamble: 355 Tackes and 20 Ints in 77 Games...he got a 6yr $53.5M contract
Robinson: 329 Tackles and 13 Ints in 68 Games...

You're comparing him to Chris Gamble...which is a FAIR comparison, but I would also say Chris Gamble is an above-average CB. He's also not a superstar who can pick off the ball at will. I think you have DRob and Gamble confused with Nnamdi Asomougha!

[twinsfan]

jvaldez we get it, you love him, blah blah blah... quit comparing pre-injury Dunta to POST-injury Dunta. He isn't the same, he isn't worth the same.

They'll be lucky to get a fifth round pick for him unless he has a good year....... then maybe a two and a sixth.

[jvaldez1984]

jvaldez we get it, you love him, blah blah blah... quit comparing pre-injury Dunta to POST-injury Dunta. He isn't the same, he isn't worth the same.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/jvaldez1984/to_crying.gif

ITS NOT FAIR!!! THATS MY CORNERBACK!!!

[TheGoaT]

Lets compare the Texans ALL-TIME LEADER in interceptions with Chris Gamble who is a VERY GOOD corner who just so happens to have been drafted in the first rd of the 2004 draft.

Gamble: 355 Tackes and 20 Ints in 77 Games...he got a 6yr $53.5M contract
Robinson: 329 Tackles and 13 Ints in 68 Games...

Chris Gamble 11/28/2008: Signed a six-year, $53.5 million contract. The deal contains $23 million guaranteed, including a $6 million signing bonus.


Sound familar? Gamble never had a year long injury with no proof of full recovery. Dunta was offered Gamble like numbers.

[greedimidi]

welcome back dunta! it about time men! now go lead your secondary to the playoffs and pay no mind to all these unhappy fans calling for you to be benched or traded. they do not sign your checks so they have no say....all they can do is run their mouths. go out and ball and hit some running backs..."LETS GO BUSS 'EM IN DA GADEM MOUF!!!!!!!"

[TheGoaT]

welcome back dunta! it about time men! now go lead your secondary to the playoffs and pay no mind to all these unhappy fans calling for you to be benched or traded. they do not sign your checks so they have no say....all they can do is run their mouths. go out and ball and hit some running backs..."LETS GO BUSS 'EM IN DA GADEM MOUF!!!!!!!"

oh really? I suppose the Texans profits materialize out of thin air.

[Sportswriter79]

Here's to hoping you are back in peak form and that you have a great season!

[jvaldez1984]

oh really? I suppose the Texans profits materialize out of thin air.

According to Forbes, of the $239M of revenue in 2007 only $48M came from tickets and merchandise...

[TheGoaT]

Welcome back Dunta, please have a good season and earn us some decent draft picks.

[TexSid]

Dunta plays in Game 1. Its a business if he is in shape he will play. Probably limited snaps because of conditioning and knowing the schemes. I have no idea why you guys are all mad at him. Look if he is soooooo bad and not worth anything why did the Texans just give him 10 mill??? You gotta be less emotional about these things...it is a business for them (for us it is a game).

[TheGoaT]

According to Forbes, of the $239M of revenue in 2007 only $48M came from tickets and merchandise...

now figure out how much comes from TV contracts, and then think about what happens when they get blacked out(which is a real threat in todays economy). Im not saying that will happen, Im just saying acting like the fanbase doesnt generate the income for these players is stupid.

[TheGoaT]

Dunta plays in Game 1. Its a business if he is in shape he will play. Probably limited snaps because of conditioning and knowing the schemes. I have no idea why you guys are all mad at him. Look if he is soooooo bad and not worth anything why did the Texans just give him 10 mill??? You gotta be less emotional about these things...it is a business for them (for us it is a game).

Who said anything about him being bad and not worth anything? I think the majority of people who are mad at Dunta are because he turned down what looked like a more than fair offer, he hasnt shown hes back to pre injury form, and the crying about not being tagged again leaves the impression he wants to play else where. I dont think anyone is denying Dunta has talent and helps the team. Its a matter of is he overvaluing himself and does he even want to play here.

[CPTTexan]

Who said anything about him being bad and not worth anything? I think the majority of people who are mad at Dunta are because he turned down what looked like a more than fair offer, he hasnt shown hes back to pre injury form, and the crying about not being tagged again leaves the impression he wants to play else where. I dont think anyone is denying Dunta has talent and helps the team. Its a matter of is he overvaluing himself and does he even want to play here.

Exactly! He's a talented guy. He's the best CB we've had on our team....that's not saying much tho since we've always had sketchy corners. I hope everything works itself out but it's a huge problem if he's trying to overvalue himself. He keeps saying his part is a business decision but when the Texans made a business decision he got upset. I have no problem with Rick Smith dropping the F-tag on him so we can see if he's really back to his old self before we just let him leave without being compensated if he is.....or just letting him walk if he isn't.

[ubecool454]

He said he did what was best for him. I believe that one. Put him out there on special teams and sit his butt down.

You have had some pretty good post in the past but this is not one of them. Dunta just needs to come in and make a few good hard licks on the opposition, maybe a corner blitz and get a sack and everyone will forget that he held out. He is still mah main man.

[Sportswriter79]

Who said anything about him being bad and not worth anything? I think the majority of people who are mad at Dunta are because he turned down what looked like a more than fair offer, he hasnt shown hes back to pre injury form, and the crying about not being tagged again leaves the impression he wants to play else where. I dont think anyone is denying Dunta has talent and helps the team. Its a matter of is he overvaluing himself and does he even want to play here.

Goat, sometimes it really appears as if you picked the perfect avatar for yourself. Geez.

[ubecool454]

Hopefully it will be sign and trade. Get rid of this chump. I don't care how good he turns out to be post injury.

I'm just glad you are running anything down at Reliant Stadium.

[ubecool454]

welcome back dunta! it about time men! now go lead your secondary to the playoffs and pay no mind to all these unhappy fans calling for you to be benched or traded. they do not sign your checks so they have no say....all they can do is run their mouths. go out and ball and hit some running backs..."LETS GO BUSS 'EM IN DA GADEM MOUF!!!!!!!"

Best Dunta post next to mine greedimidi. You and I both know most of our fans are fickled.

[dbruder44]

Best Dunta post next to mine greedimidi. You and I both know most of our fans are fickled.

The first time he sticks somebody coming his way in the run game the crowd will remember, then a tipped pass we'll go wild, and my prediction is he jumps a route for a pick six ruing dirty Sanchez's NFL debut

Dunta welcome back, show us what you got!!!!

[rocknrandy]

just business

not happy with him turning a decent contract offer down though.

its done, he is back.

lets move forward and play ball!

[Yosarian]

I can't find it in me to welcome back a player who has jeopardized our season because he did what was best for him.

[TheGoaT]

Goat, sometimes it really appears as if you picked the perfect avatar for yourself. Geez.

thats probably because you relate so well with it.

[VBot]

I can't find it in me to welcome back a player who has jeopardized our season because he did what was best for him.

Ditto

[bckey]

Here's to hoping we trade you before you leave anyway. Detroit, Oakland, Cleveland, Denver

[dbruder44]

I can't find it in me to welcome back a player who has jeopardized our season because he did what was best for him.

Hes Yos think of it this way, maybe D-Rob reports and is lost for the season in a preseason game, he's been working out, he hasn't jeopardized anything, see what Gary says during the week and what we all see next Sunday before you crucify him. Maybe he plays a lot of nickle and man to man slot stuff week one, but who would you rather have out there Dunta or Glover, Brice or Antwan??? When Reeves comes back for week 3 maybe 2 we have a decent secondary with a Strong line and LB core.

I'm sure you'll welcome him back after his first big play, most teams deal with this every year, this just happen to be the Texans first major holdout so we have been immune.

[Kgbmedic]

I can't find it in me to welcome back a player who has jeopardized our season because he did what was best for him.

I can appreciate you not wanting to welcome him back. It is your statement that, 'he did what was best for him line,' that caught my eye. This is a field where you can be done with one crack back block. It is a job, he should be in it for him. The Front office isn't in it for you, me, or him they are in it for themselves as well. So doing what he feels is best I can understand. Would I have liked to see him out there sooner to assist the team absolutely.

Ultimately he does have to look out for himself. I don't think anybody here is willing to take care of him, or his family should he find himself out of a job though injury or otherwise. My thought is let his actions speak for themselves on the field.

[VBot]

Here's to hoping we trade you before you leave anyway. Detroit, Oakland, Cleveland, Denver

You left out Kansas City. I'll welcome him back after his first Big Play, sure. It better be an int returned 90 yards for a TD...I can understand a football player looking out for himself, but if I remember correctly football is a TEAM sport. You have X amount of other guys busting their a@@es on the practice field everyday. That includes becoming one/to gel. That's the way most successful teams do it, as a unit. To get that way everyone must be there. Any one of those guys could have gotten hurt and been out for the season on the first snap. Let your play speak for itself and get you that BIG payday. Anyway, that's where I'm at. Go Texans!!!

[TheLBCoach]

Since Oakland just stupidly traded a 2011 1st Round pick for Richard Seymour, maybe they can follow it up and stupidly trade us their 2010 1st Round pick for Dunta. That would be great! :eek:

[mike gomez]

I dont know why everybody is saying Andre Hall or Glenn Martinez get cut when we have the oldest player in the league Jeff Zgonina to me its pretty obvious he's getting cut.

[TheLBCoach]

as angry as i was about what he was doing, i am glad to see him back. he was my favorite player on our team, but he will still have to earn that respect back from me.

welcome back dunta.

Not a personal attack here, so don't take it personally....but I'd be willing to bet Dunta could care less if he has your respect or not.

[VBot]

Since Oakland just stupidly traded a 2011 1st Round pick for Richard Seymour, maybe they can follow it up and stupidly trade us their 2010 1st Round pick for Dunta. That would be great! :eek:

Could Oakland be the next Minnesota? The Herschel Walker deal that made the Cowboys a Super Bowl team waaaaaaaaaay back when. Al Davis likes speed, he doesn't care if a guy can run a route, just as long as he's speedy. "Go deeeeep" he tells his receivers and we'll get you the ball somehow.

[houstonsportsfan09]

I dont know why everybody is saying Andre Hall or Glenn Martinez get cut when we have the oldest player in the league Jeff Zgonina to me its pretty obvious he's getting cut.

Dont be so fast to judge the old man. The oldest defensive player had the most sacks or tied for most sacks on our team in the preseason. Yes it was preseason but still. Where was Amobi or DelJuan or Okam? Yes they showed flashes but if the oldest player still has the motor, you gotta give it to him.

[Se7en]

The first time he sticks somebody coming his way in the run game the crowd will remember, then a tipped pass we'll go wild, and my prediction is he jumps a route for a pick six ruing dirty Sanchez's NFL debut

Dunta welcome back, show us what you got!!!!

I think we would all be fine with Dunt aplaying well because it benefits the team. It does not mean everyone is cheering DUNTA though, they would be cheering because they want their team to win. You seem to think that just because Dunta could make some plays it means we should all be forced to eat crow and that is not the case.

Dunta has always told the fans that he works so hard because he loves us, the team, and the city. He talked BIG talk during his good years here upt o the injury. Once injured Dunta nearly ended his career, but he was able to work back and take the field last season. He told us he was eager to get back out there with his teammates so that he can get back to playing the game he loves. Now my eyes have been opent o the fact that all of Dunta's action are really not about the city, team, or fans... he plays for himself and to get his but was smart enough to package himself in a marketable way that gave us the impression he was cared.

That is my biggest frustration... his double talk that does not match his actions. I have no reason to eat crow even if DUnta plays well. I want to see him play well so that we can get value for him when we move him. With his ego and big talk teams like the Raiders would love to throw the bank at him if he plays well!!!

[Se7en]

I'm sure you'll welcome him back after his first big play.

What if he gets burned over and over again? People keep assuming he is going to make big plays for some reason. What is he comes back and he is still just as slow and out of position as he was last season post injury?

It could just as easily go the other way and the Texans could be over paying Dunta with the tag money. At least this way we did not lock him into a 5 year deal just to find out he might always going to be 80% of who he was. The cards shift into Dunta's favor if he plays poorly and forces the team to release him or retag him.

[NormZinNJ]

Looks like we won't know who wil be released thanks to the commish...


The Texans did not have to release a player to make room for Robinson because they were granted a two-week roster exemption by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell due to Robinson's late reporting date. They will be allowed to have 54 players on their active roster during that time period.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=5534

The Texans and the Eagles are the only two teams with 54 players for the next two weeks...sweet!

NZ

[Yosarian]

Hes Yos think of it this way, maybe D-Rob reports and is lost for the season in a preseason game, he's been working out, he hasn't jeopardized anything, see what Gary says during the week and what we all see next Sunday before you crucify him. Maybe he plays a lot of nickle and man to man slot stuff week one, but who would you rather have out there Dunta or Glover, Brice or Antwan??? When Reeves comes back for week 3 maybe 2 we have a decent secondary with a Strong line and LB core.

I'm sure you'll welcome him back after his first big play, most teams deal with this every year, this just happen to be the Texans first major holdout so we have been immune.

His chances of getting hurt now are greater than ever. He isn't ready to play and so he is more likely to get hurt than if he had come to practice. He knows he had to sign so why not just sign and come to camp to be ready. A lot of being a great player is dedication and putting your own feelings aside for the greater good of the team. I'm totally happy to work out Molden and McCain and Reeves when he comes back. And i won't welcome him back after his first big play. I don't forget that easily.


I can appreciate you not wanting to welcome him back. It is your statement that, 'he did what was best for him line,' that caught my eye. This is a field where you can be done with one crack back block. It is a job, he should be in it for him. The Front office isn't in it for you, me, or him they are in it for themselves as well. So doing what he feels is best I can understand. Would I have liked to see him out there sooner to assist the team absolutely.

Ultimately he does have to look out for himself. I don't think anybody here is willing to take care of him, or his family should he find himself out of a job though injury or otherwise. My thought is let his actions speak for themselves on the field.

I worked in a job where i could be hurt at any moment also, but i never demanded higher pay or whined about being there. I saw many guys go down. I worked with no anterior crucia ligaments in my knee for 7 years because i didn't have money to get it fixed. I played hurt and under duress in a field that is more dangerous than Dunta. For little pay. Don't preach to me about looking out for himself. He is on a team. He has hurt the team. I hope we can have a solid beginning of the year, but his actions have made that possibility a risky bet at best. And believe me when i say that his actions so far have spoke for themselves.

[TheGoaT]

I'm rather surprised Kubiak is going to put him back in the starting lineup right away. I figured they'd work him in a little slowly while getting him up to speed with the schemes and new coaches.

[dbruder44]

What if he gets burned over and over again? People keep assuming he is going to make big plays for some reason. What is he comes back and he is still just as slow and out of position as he was last season post injury?

It could just as easily go the other way and the Texans could be over paying Dunta with the tag money. At least this way we did not lock him into a 5 year deal just to find out he might always going to be 80% of who he was. The cards shift into Dunta's favor if he plays poorly and forces the team to release him or retag him.

No offense to Brice Mccain, Glover Quinn and Antuwn Molden, but who do you want back there a guy that has played just below Probowl level for most of his career and started in 80 plus games or do you want to rotate players that have zero starts between them. I want the best possible team on the field and Dunta is better than any CB we have right now, so I want him there an will be his biggest supporter, I have the pit going now so I'll throw some crow on there and smoke it up nice and get it tender smoky and juicy, so you and Yos can enjoy the crow you eat next Sunday, maybe i'll eat my words, but I doubt it.

[dbruder44]

I'm rather surprised Kubiak is going to put him back in the starting lineup right away. I figured they'd work him in a little slowly while getting him up to speed with the schemes and new coaches.

Kubes knows that if Dunta makes 2 or 3 plays in the passing game next Sunday we get thw W, we are goinna have 8 in the Box now with Dunta back versus 7 if a rookie CB was out there. We shut down the run and force him to make some tough passes. There is a reason that we went 5-1 and our defense looked better down the stretch last year, and that person is 110% now not 75%

[TheGoaT]

you're jumping to alot of conclusions. I have no doubt he will help with the attitude on the defense but to claim he's at 110% right now or that hes going to come in there with no camp time and immediately make a bunch of plays is a stretch. Even if hes in the starting lineup, I bet he doesnt play a full load.

[MACwired]

you're jumping to alot of conclusions. I have no doubt he will help with the attitude on the defense but to claim he's at 110% right now or that hes going to come in there with no camp time and immediately make a bunch of plays is a stretch. Even if hes in the starting lineup, I bet he doesnt play a full load.

There is no such thing as 110%. 100% is full and where it ends. "Stupid is what stupid does."

[TheGoaT]

There is no such thing as 110%. 100% is full and where it ends. "Stupid is what stupid does."

hey genious, 110% is what the poster I was talking to said. Thanks for your wonderful input Borat. I'll have a porch swing installed on Dunta's nuts to make your stay more comfortable.

[edo783]

OK, your back. Now go out and EARN that 9.9 million, top 5 money.

[Texan Naija]

I'm guessing they kept six WR because Walter's injury isn't something he might come back from at full strength, with Davis already doing kick returns and spliting time with the starters, you will need another big receiver and since JJ hasn't proven he can do that, thus Glen is insurance . So if they had to cut someone, it will probably be Hall, I mean the fact is despite playing well, he isn't that much of a change of pace guy compared to Slaton or Moats.


As for Dunta, he pissed me off but I am willing to give him a chance if he plays well. If he starts blowing plays, then I'll return to my hater groove.

[MACwired]

What if he gets burned over and over again? People keep assuming he is going to make big plays for some reason. What is he comes back and he is still just as slow and out of position as he was last season post injury?

It could just as easily go the other way and the Texans could be over paying Dunta with the tag money. At least this way we did not lock him into a 5 year deal just to find out he might always going to be 80% of who he was. The cards shift into Dunta's favor if he plays poorly and forces the team to release him or retag him.

Have some optimism, dude when are you ever going to be happy. You have the right Post pic. as a Koolaid which suppose to be jolly and happy. Dunta is still the best CB on our team. After all, the franchise tag means usually reserved for players of great skill or of high importance to the team. Your point is way off.

[Kgbmedic]

{snip}




I worked in a job where i could be hurt at any moment also, but i never demanded higher pay or whined about being there. I saw many guys go down. I worked with no anterior crucia ligaments in my knee for 7 years because i didn't have money to get it fixed. I played hurt and under duress in a field that is more dangerous than Dunta. For little pay. Don't preach to me about looking out for himself. He is on a team. He has hurt the team. I hope we can have a solid beginning of the year, but his actions have made that possibility a risky bet at best. And believe me when i say that his actions so far have spoke for themselves.

You have misunderstood my post, I wasn't preaching to you just making an observation. Everyone of those guys will do the same thing when their worth in the business goes up. If you don't ask for more money in your job when your worth to the company goes up that's on you. Now if he went out on the field and lazily ran around not doing his job then that would be a different story. You know as well as I do how that business works you may only have a short window to increase the pay check. I don't fault him for trying.

On the other hand I personally think they are all over paid for playing a game. Doesn't mean I don't understand his position. I certainly don't take it personally either.

[MACwired]

hey genious, 110% is what the poster I was talking to said. Thanks for your wonderful input Borat. I'll have a porch swing installed on Dunta's nuts to make your stay more comfortable.

You're right, it is where you have concurred with him on that particular sentence. Moron.

[TheGoaT]

You're right, it is where you have concurred with him on that particular sentence. Moron.

hahaha god that doesn't even make sense! I see my tax money is hard at work.

[MACwired]

I'm rather surprised Kubiak is going to put him back in the starting lineup right away. I figured they'd work him in a little slowly while getting him up to speed with the schemes and new coaches.

Dunta is a veteran who've seen it all. Why not start him and evaluate where he is at this point. Your figure is way off, because you sound amateurish at best.

[MACwired]

hahaha god that doesn't even make sense! I see my tax money is hard at work.

Your tax money is a waste because it is dirty and tainted.

[Number 34]

Dunta is back. Good. Kubes says he will start him right off if he is in tip top shape. Good. I want to see Dunta play like he is on a mission to prove us all wrong. That way his trade value is up if he decides to snub us again.

Looking at the franchised players from last year about 2/3 of them resigned with thier team and the other 1/3 walked. Guess we wil have to wait and see.

BTW to all those who sympathize with D Rub based on the "he could be injured tomorrow and needs to think about his family" theory, well lets just say I'm glad you are not in our military. You know the ones that are really underpaid and actually risk thier lives. Just think if the Marines had the same philosophy as Dunta.

[Kgbmedic]

BTW to all those who sympathize with D Rub based on the "he could be injured tomorrow and needs to think about his family" theory, well lets just say I'm glad you are not in our military. You know the ones that are really underpaid and actually risk thier lives. Just think if the Marines had the same philosophy as Dunta.

Well here is a statement from way out of the end zone. Has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Perhaps you should throw in, your unpatriotic, if you don't like my view too.

[footballfan412]

oh really? I suppose the Texans profits materialize out of thin air.

LOL!!!

No s--t!!!

I am a five year season ticket holder. I sign Dunta's **** checks.

[outofhnd]

How about this? Just shut up and play. lets judge his on the field play not his life decisions.

[TheGoaT]

Your tax money is a waste because it is dirty and tainted.

Im pretty certain you are the dumbest human being on the planet. Please go get a copy of Rosetta Stone until you can write coherent sentences.

[jmerog]

I for one hope we do not start DRob for a few weeks if at all. He has not been with the team or new Defense and this could put him on the wrong page of everyone else. This could cause serious problems.

Now for my opinion on this situation. I think Kubes sits DRob for the entire season, other teams do not get to see him play and can not gauge his rehab or ability to play. Next year we cut him and he leaves wishing he had taken the money offered stayed with his TEAM and was out there playing for us being apart of this wonderful team. Now he becomes an example to other whiny players in the league who try to pull this crap. Every situation is different for every player, but DRobs was stubborn greed a higher priority than his team. Bash me if you like but I am officially a DRob hater.....:mad:

Man, i totally understand where you are coming from and the reactionary part of me feels the same way. In fact, i went on and on to my wife (much to her dismay) with the same grumblings. That said, the more rational part of me thinks sitting him would be a colossal waste of money and a roster spot. I still think he must re-earn his spot, but if we're paying the guy and giving up a spot- we gotta try to use him.

[Jay-El The BMTexan]

Well If any of you Upset D-Rob fans has An xxl 23 Jersey, holla at me I'll take it off your hands.... I perfer the white.

I get why alot of you are upset and I also get why he done what he did, when these teams get through with these guys they can release them if they have years on a contract or not, look at T.O. He had just got a new deal from the cowwhores yet he was let go.

This is a business, promise you any team is going to do what they deem is in their best interest as a player they have to do the same thing too.

[The Postman]

Nick Scurfield (?) of Houstontexans.com says we have 2 week exemption.
http://twitter.com/NickScurfield

Doesn't sound right. Is this guy legit?

[naterchamp16]

yeah of course its legit

[J-Storm]

Well If any of you Upset D-Rob fans has An xxl 23 Jersey, holla at me I'll take it off your hands.... I perfer the white.

I get why alot of you are upset and I also get why he done what he did, when these teams get through with these guys they can release them if they have years on a contract or not, look at T.O. He had just got a new deal from the cowwhores yet he was let go.

This is a business, promise you any team is going to do what they deem is in their best interest as a player they have to do the same thing too.


Please do NOT ever put TO's name in the same area as Dunta. Sure I don't agree with Dunta's decision over this whole contract situation, but he is nowhere near the trouble that serial pest TO has ever been...

[Jay-El The BMTexan]

Please do NOT ever put TO's name in the same area as Dunta. Sure I don't agree with Dunta's decision over this whole contract situation, but he is nowhere near the trouble that serial pest TO has ever been...

Never said he was , just using the business aspect of it all. I would have liked for dude to be in camp for the duration, but I'm not going to brow beat or degrade him for not being there. NFL contracts don't mean snit, If they wanted to they could drop anybody at any time. Its a business, look at the New England trade they just made ......business . You better get yours cause when they are through with you they spit you out like gum.

[srstex]

1) On the business side of DR, the money in the NFL is nothing like the money the rest of us make. To that point, DR made more money in one year then 80% of the population will make in their entire life, so I can not stand to hear " I need to take care of my family" crap from anyone with that much money. I take care of my family with much less then DR and they are all doing well. 2) DR wanted more money then the FT got him, or so it was written, and he is no where near that level of play, if he was then QB's would avoid his side like the plague, and since they don't ..... 3) I love the Texans, the team, the wins, the games, the players, and as long as DR is on the team he is part of that. Just win baby.

[raginbull]

Ah, the love of another Dunta thread. We have some extra time to make decisions based on who to cut, we have 8 on the practice squad, we also have a hndfull on the pup list. It seems that as the players on the pup list get healthy we will have to weigh some very heavy options. I have a list of players to watch that might be in jeapordy. This is in a random order. 1.Rex Grossman 2. Andre Hall 3.Glenn Martinez or David Anderson 4.Anthony Hill 5.Shaun Cody or Jeff Z 6.chaun thompson. Wew have three centers guards and tackles. so I believe Washburn may be added. Cato June? thats a good question. Maybe cut thompson to add him. I think we can make room on the practice squad by dropping adam stenavich or buster davis. matbe add troy nolan after he comes off the pup. Dunta will return to his spot for the first game! He worked with Kap and wright, Kubiak commented that it looked good from a distance. he signed his tender and was embraced by hugs and high fives when he returned. In the off season he worked at Paris Speed school in New Jersey, he worked with I think it was Bill Davis who was San Diegos db coach last season and former Jags reciever Matt Jones. Goodell has tsated that he believes next year will be an un-capped season. So there are a few things that have to be considered. But as much as we may not like it, He's back. Reeves injury makes his presence necessary in the secondary. As I have stated in previous posts, the only thing I look to see is if he can bounce back and be the player he was. If not, then I believe it is time to part ways with him that is insentive based in its rewards.

[dbruder44]

Ah, the love of another Dunta thread. We have some extra time to make decisions based on who to cut, we have 8 on the practice squad, we also have a hndfull on the pup list. It seems that as the players on the pup list get healthy we will have to weigh some very heavy options. I have a list of players to watch that might be in jeapordy. This is in a random order. 1.Rex Grossman 2. Andre Hall 3.Glenn Martinez or David Anderson 4.Anthony Hill 5.Shaun Cody or Jeff Z 6.chaun thompson. Wew have three centers guards and tackles. so I believe Washburn may be added. Cato June? thats a good question. Maybe cut thompson to add him. I think we can make room on the practice squad by dropping adam stenavich or buster davis. matbe add troy nolan after he comes off the pup. Dunta will return to his spot for the first game! He worked with Kap and wright, Kubiak commented that it looked good from a distance. he signed his tender and was embraced by hugs and high fives when he returned. In the off season he worked at Paris Speed school in New Jersey, he worked with I think it was Bill Davis who was San Diegos db coach last season and former Jags reciever Matt Jones. Goodell has tsated that he believes next year will be an un-capped season. So there are a few things that have to be considered. But as much as we may not like it, He's back. Reeves injury makes his presence necessary in the secondary. As I have stated in previous posts, the only thing I look to see is if he can bounce back and be the player he was. If not, then I believe it is time to part ways with him that is insentive based in its rewards.

Why do people think we would waive a 4th round draft pick, that's crazy he is a rookie and dropped a pass and fumbled another, he is our blocking TE, June wouldn't be ready until late October, Grossman may be trade bait but won't be released.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Ah, the love of another Dunta thread. We have some extra time to make decisions based on who to cut, we have 8 on the practice squad, we also have a hndfull on the pup list. It seems that as the players on the pup list get healthy we will have to weigh some very heavy options. I have a list of players to watch that might be in jeapordy. This is in a random order. 1.Rex Grossman 2. Andre Hall 3.Glenn Martinez or David Anderson 4.Anthony Hill 5.Shaun Cody or Jeff Z 6.chaun thompson. Wew have three centers guards and tackles. so I believe Washburn may be added. Cato June? thats a good question. Maybe cut thompson to add him. I think we can make room on the practice squad by dropping adam stenavich or buster davis. matbe add troy nolan after he comes off the pup. Dunta will return to his spot for the first game! He worked with Kap and wright, Kubiak commented that it looked good from a distance. he signed his tender and was embraced by hugs and high fives when he returned. In the off season he worked at Paris Speed school in New Jersey, he worked with I think it was Bill Davis who was San Diegos db coach last season and former Jags reciever Matt Jones. Goodell has tsated that he believes next year will be an un-capped season. So there are a few things that have to be considered. But as much as we may not like it, He's back. Reeves injury makes his presence necessary in the secondary. As I have stated in previous posts, the only thing I look to see is if he can bounce back and be the player he was. If not, then I believe it is time to part ways with him that is insentive based in its rewards.

I will have to respectfully disagree with you on some things. Grossman is safe(hes obviously pushing for #2 duties), Hall, agree, is on the bubble, Martinez is also, Anderson is safe, Anthony Hill is safe despite looking bad(as many have said, you dont cut your 4th round pick),Cody is safe(he is very well looking to be starting NT),Zgonina may be gone despite having a good preseason, and Thompson, well I thought he would of been gone already but obviously not and I dont see him leaving. We're thin at LB.

Troy Nolan is not on PUP, he was placed on IR, hes done for the season and Cato June was placed on IR and is already gone off team(released with injury settlement). And I dont think any other player is on PUP.

[raginbull]

Why do people think we would waive a 4th round draft pick, that's crazy he is a rookie and dropped a pass and fumbled another, he is our blocking TE, June wouldn't be ready until late October, Grossman may be trade bait but won't be released.

First of all I believ Casey can block pretty well and so can Joel Dressen. Its not hard to see that both are also productive in the passing game. Anthony wouldnt be cut he would be waived and definitly find a spot on the practice squad. i agree with maybe dropping June. He hasnt had a chance to show what he can do for us. Grossman could be another project that could produce a nice pick for us like sage did, but he only has a 1year deal and he hasnt been to healthy. So his value is down a little but after the Tampa game it could be slowly on the rise.

[TransplantTexan1]

Please do NOT ever put TO's name in the same area as Dunta. Sure I don't agree with Dunta's decision over this whole contract situation, but he is nowhere near the trouble that serial pest TO has ever been...

Agreed.

[raginbull]

I will have to respectfully disagree with you on some things. Grossman is safe(hes obviously pushing for #2 duties), Hall, agree, is on the bubble, Martinez is also, Anderson is safe, Anthony Hill is safe despite looking bad(as many have said, you dont cut your 4th round pick),Cody is safe(he is very well looking to be starting NT),Zgonina may be gone despite having a good preseason, and Thompson, well I thought he would of been gone already but obviously not and I dont see him leaving. We're thin at LB.

Troy Nolan is not on PUP, he was placed on IR, hes done for the season and Cato June was placed on IR and is already gone off team(released with injury settlement). And I dont think any other player is on PUP.

Didnt know about Nolan they got him on the PUP list still on Houston Texans.Com. And like Ive said in the event Hill was waived he'd be on the practice squad in no time.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Didnt know about Nolan they got him on the PUP list still on Houston Texans.Com. And like Ive said in the event Hill was waived he'd be on the practice squad in no time.

Hes listed under "Reserved/Injured" with Stanley McClover and Jeremiah Johnson

[raginbull]

Not alot of this posts is really correct. If Casey was only a TR Hill would be gone however he isnt just a TE. Maybe dropping June? He has already been dropped he is long gone! Grossman isnt a project he is a very capable backup with lots of nfl experience, he could very well end up being our QB for a while if and when Shaub gets hurt and as for his health he is a nfl QB which one has been healthy his career? That is a very short list...

Ok I dont recall mentioning Casey being ONLY a TE. Yes he has versatility witch means he can fill in in more places than one. if you look at the post June was still on the roster at the time. he was brought in to be a backup, and kubiak will work with him to improve as a qb, and to get rid of some of the bad habits he picked up in Chicago. Yes, Grossman has experience in Ron Turner's Chicago offense, but not in Kubiak's thats why I'd say he is a project. He still has to show more of what he can do on a consistant basis, limit mistakes, and build trust in players and staff.

[Sportswriter79]

Ok I dont recall mentioning Casey being ONLY a TE. Yes he has versatility witch means he can fill in in more places than one. if you look at the post June was still on the roster at the time. he was brought in to be a backup, and kubiak will work with him to improve as a qb, and to get rid of some of the bad habits he picked up in Chicago. Yes, Grossman has experience in Ron Turner's Chicago offense, but not in Kubiak's thats why I'd say he is a project. He still has to show more of what he can do on a consistant basis, limit mistakes, and build trust in players and staff.

Based on today's announcement that Grossman is #2, it looks more like Orlovsky is the project.

[Jay-El The BMTexan]

"Vikes drop veteran WR Wade, who led team in receptions last two seasons"



Like I said, they spit you out like gum when they through with you... contract are not.