View Full Version : Sick Of "The Wild Cat" Offense
Anyone else sick of this "Great" offense? The Wild Cat. It sure fooled the Colts last Monday Night. Oh and also Atlanta before that. Yeah the Wild Cat is more like the Tame Kitten. It's a fad. It belongs in College and Little League.
Towlie
09-24-2009, 08:16 AM
In NFL, kinda... In Madden NFL, I LOVe IT!!!
naterchamp16
09-24-2009, 08:38 PM
Once people see all the tricks it will fade a way. I don't know why other teams just can't figure it out with the Phins. Every time the used it, it's thru the RBs. If I was a defensive coordinator I would tell my guys to focus on the running back. because every wild cat play goes right through them.
your 100% right. i was thinking they would throw a pass in there to keep the defense on their toes but they kept running it and kept getting yardage...
vanknights2002
09-24-2009, 09:11 PM
just watch the ravens game last year. when the stop it cold.
Yosarian
09-25-2009, 02:39 AM
Here is the perfect defense for the wild cat. Where ever the qb lines up at reciever, you stick your biggest baddest linebacker on him and bust him up with he 5 yard rule. That ends the wildcat formation!
Here is the perfect defense for the wild cat. Where ever the qb lines up at reciever, you stick your biggest baddest linebacker on him and bust him up with he 5 yard rule. That ends the wildcat formation!
Very True. I never understood why teams don't really chuck the WR, at least the Texans never did with Marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne. Then they would get burned, of course. It would disrupt the timing for that cry baby Manning.
zanth91
09-25-2009, 09:56 AM
Once people see all the tricks it will fade a way. I don't know why other teams just can't figure it out with the Phins. Every time the used it, it's thru the RBs. If I was a defensive coordinator I would tell my guys to focus on the running back. because every wild cat play goes right through them.
Exactly! Even Richard Smith agrees with you, so much, that he told our defense to do that. Next thing they knew, Chad Pennington threw a 50 yd TD pass.
The wildcat is dynamic. It's not that simple to cover it.
GoldenHolden
09-25-2009, 10:48 AM
Anyone else sick of this "Great" offense? The Wild Cat. It sure fooled the Colts last Monday Night. Oh and also Atlanta before that. Yeah the Wild Cat is more like the Tame Kitten. It's a fad. It belongs in College and Little League.
I'm not a big fan of the wildcat but you must have been watching something different in the Colts-Dolphins game. The Dolphins were ripping the Colts up with the Wildcat. The key to running the wildcat correctly is having the right guy at qb. In my opinion it must be a running back. Too many teams try to use WR's or speed guys and it doesn't work. The wildcat is actually a power offense formation. Overloaded line to one side, you need a big back with ok speed to lower his shoulder if need be. This is why I don't think Vick will be a very good wildcat qb. He can't lower his schoulder to fight out tough yards. Ronnie Brown is taylor made for the position and he runs it better than anyone else.
I'm not a big fan of the wildcat but you must have been watching something different in the Colts-Dolphins game. The Dolphins were ripping the Colts up with the Wildcat. The key to running the wildcat correctly is having the right guy at qb. In my opinion it must be a running back. Too many teams try to use WR's or speed guys and it doesn't work. The wildcat is actually a power offense formation. Overloaded line to one side, you need a big back with ok speed to lower his shoulder if need be. This is why I don't think Vick will be a very good wildcat qb. He can't lower his schoulder to fight out tough yards. Ronnie Brown is taylor made for the position and he runs it better than anyone else.
I was referring to the outcome/final of the game. If it can't win you games, why even bother. It's not an every week offense. Chris Johnson racked up tons of ground yards last week, but it was overshadowed by a loss. I would think he would rather have the (W) rather than a ton of yards in a losing effort. Good for his stats, yes, but it won't make getting to the playoffs any easier. So with that said, I 'm sure Miami would rather have a (W) rather than knowing they were ripping the Colts up. Oh and the Falcons too!!! Let them keep using the great "Wildcat", it makes great stats.
htowntexan13
09-26-2009, 09:31 AM
Exactly! Even Richard Smith agrees with you, so much, that he told our defense to do that. Next thing they knew, Chad Pennington threw a 50 yd TD pass.
The wildcat is dynamic. It's not that simple to cover it.
Chad could have never thrown a long pass from a wildcat formation and I agree with the other dude.
zanth91
09-26-2009, 10:02 AM
Chad could have never thrown a long pass from a wildcat formation and I agree with the other dude.
"Never" is a strong word, and should only be used if you are 100% sure. ;)
It's easy to remember for me...a good bit of trickery involved in this play.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d80b8dd72/WK-6-Can-t-Miss-Play-Wildcat-strikes-again
Yosarian
09-26-2009, 11:16 AM
The colts have stunk stopping the run for a while. Last year they were pretty bad at it. I'm not surprised the phins were able to run on them. I do not accredit it to the wildcat. Lets see them try it against a good stout run defense like the Vikes or Steelers.
The way it works in the NFL:
Someone will come up with an innovation. Other teams will emulate their success.
Someone else will come up with a way to counter it. Other teams emulate their success.
Repeat cycle.
Some things work some things don't. Why don't pro teams use the option? Because the speed and discipline on the defense in the pro game make that play unusable in most instances.
It's always been the same with all offenses, something new may blow the league out of the water until it get's countered then it's usage is limited. It happened to the Run and Shoot etc... I suspect the same will happen to the WC.
Very true. What's next, using Kickers and Punters as QBs? Lol. The "Wild Kicker Formation". They'll have the option of Kicking/Punting, Running or Passing and of course just playing dead.
A scheme's success rate changes if you have the perfect athlete performing the role.
Example : Jim Kelly (Gamblers) and the Run and Shoot - I don't care what anyone says, he was the best QB this city ever had. It's too bad the Oilers didn't get him instead of Moon (who also was an excellent R&S QB), I liked Kelly better. Moon fumbled too much.
The point is, that if you have the perfect athlete for the role then the success rate climbs and the scheme looks better, but looks like crap if sub par athletes, not suited for the role try it.
Yeah, Kelly was good. I wonder if Moon's hands were too big? Is it possible? Too bad Kelly was with our 90's nemesis (In My Opinion). Boy did we have some good receivers for that offense.
The late 80's/early 90's Oilers were the best team ever to not win a Super Bowl. We were stacked on both sides of the ball, but our recievers were a major strength, that is true.
Someone will say it's the Bills but it's not. There never will be a doubt in my mind about it.
Poor coaching decisions had more to do with the Oilers annual playoff exit than anything else.
I was in Germany when The Greatest Collapse in NFL History took place. I remember that day as if it happened yesterday. Had the steaks on the grill, Baked potatoes, beer, watching the game with a friend, stomping on my floor & cheering (In stairwell type government housing). Well shortly after the start of the second half, the stomping & cheering stopped. Worst day in Houston Sports History for me. Jim Freaking Eddy. Wasn't that our D coordinators name? I hated Buffalo then like I hate the Colts now. I still have much hate for Tennessee Tidy Bowls, but I hate the Cry Baby, Manning more.
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