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CoogBull
10-12-2009, 10:52 AM
I want to pound the crap out of both.

It is becoming more obvious that the problems on this team are structural in nature. We are built too small, lack push up front, and really should have taken a pile moving running back in the draft instead of more useless TEs.

Kubiak and Smith have built the team they want. Unfortunately, this is not a team that can win in the NFL. They have built a Jekyll/Hyde team that has no identity outside its own inconsistency.

Sunday's game established that once again it looks like another year of spinning our wheels and another offseason of hoping something will pop.

Sprtsfanatic
10-12-2009, 10:57 AM
angry button with me...along with a frustration button that is already broken....

we need some changes and they need to come at the center position as soon as possible. I'm getting tired of seeing him get pushed back or get a lack of push on the line...we're playing rookies in the secondary and studdard is starting for the first time this year with pitts hurt...might as well play a bigger stronger rookie center in there and see if that doesnt help our poor rushing game.

coachemup
10-12-2009, 10:58 AM
Coog.. I'm mashing the Angry/Frustrated Button! This team is just like my family... I love 'em but they drive me CRAZY!

theCATALYST
10-12-2009, 11:12 AM
Hehe. I have my buttons wired to activate every few seconds without me having to press them. You gotta be on automatic when following this bi-polar team. Sooner or later, I will be wiring up the cheer and hooray buttons. We are so close.

CoogBull
10-12-2009, 11:27 AM
Hehe. I have my buttons wired to activate every few seconds without me having to press them. You gotta be on automatic when following this bi-polar team. Sooner or later, I will be wiring up the cheer and hooray buttons. We are so close.

I need to set up a rig like that.

I disagree that we are close. I think we have three or four more years before we see any real progress. If we crap out this season, and we look like we might again, Kubiak will be gone. The problem is that the team he has built is not one any other coach would want. We are too small, not physical, and weak at the point of attack. We will have to rebuild.

Sprtsfanatic
10-12-2009, 11:41 AM
I need to set up a rig like that.

I disagree that we are close. I think we have three or four more years before we see any real progress. If we crap out this season, and we look like we might again, Kubiak will be gone. The problem is that the team he has built is not one any other coach would want. We are too small, not physical, and weak at the point of attack. We will have to rebuild.

i disagree...we dont have to rebuild...we just need to make changes in the areas where we are lacking....starting with the center position and finding a true POWER back

gregastory
10-12-2009, 11:42 AM
I need to set up a rig like that.

I disagree that we are close. I think we have three or four more years before we see any real progress. If we crap out this season, and we look like we might again, Kubiak will be gone. The problem is that the team he has built is not one any other coach would want. We are too small, not physical, and weak at the point of attack. We will have to rebuild.

I disagree that no other coach would want this team. Our receiving corps is scary, and our linebackers are on their way up; both of those units have shown flashes of potential, and that's something to build on. We obviously have a few glaring weaknesses... maybe we can fix them soon enough, maybe we can't... but stop being so pessimistic to act as if we are everything that could possibly be wrong with a football team.

CoogBull
10-12-2009, 11:47 AM
I disagree that no other coach would want this team. Our receiving corps is scary, and our linebackers are on their way up; both of those units have shown flashes of potential, and that's something to build on. We obviously have a few glaring weaknesses... maybe we can fix them soon enough, maybe we can't... but stop being so pessimistic to act as if we are everything that could possibly be wrong with a football team.

I believe that the game is won in the trenches with a big physical offensive and defensive lines. We have neither.

This is the team that Kubiak wants. He wants small linemen. Name me another coach who would want a small line? One who would actively seek out guys like this?

WaldovonPutz
10-12-2009, 11:49 AM
I'm a fan from the first season, but I'm getting close to adding an Apathy button. The losses just don't get me as excited as they used to. I think it's because we keep doing the same old things: no high rb draft pick, stubborn and predictable run first strategy often ignoring our greatest asset Andre Johnson, weak pass rush, playing way off receivers on 3rd and 10, etc, so we are not as suprised when there are breakdowns. Getting a little boring, actually. We can still make a season out of it; here's hoping.

CoogBull
10-12-2009, 11:50 AM
i disagree...we dont have to rebuild...we just need to make changes in the areas where we are lacking....starting with the center position and finding a true POWER back

There were numerous power backs in the draft. We let them pass us by for more TEs who will not see the field. Even if they did not work out, at least they would be seeing the field.

Freshly Dipped
10-12-2009, 11:56 AM
Namely the Jags rookie running back who was there until the 7th round who would have been an ideal compliment to SS instead of that stiff Chris Brown.

CoogBull
10-12-2009, 11:58 AM
Namely the Jags rookie running back who was there until the 7th round who would have been an ideal compliment to SS instead of that stiff Chris Brown.

Rashard Jennings is who you are thinking of. I knew that we were messing up by hoping Brown would be completely unlike himself.

SuperstarII
10-12-2009, 11:59 AM
I am still ticked off at losing to the Jets game to a rookie QB and a rookie HC. Falcons have turned it around as well. I see no hope in this team with the current coaching staff.

I am pressing the NO HOPE button.

TexansFan99
10-12-2009, 12:15 PM
I have lowered my expectation from a 9-7 season before the season started to 7-9 or 8-8. I'm neither panic or angry. I'm at peace....

outofhnd
10-12-2009, 12:23 PM
our trenches did good until 4th and goal.

our problems lie with the one thing that cant be coached cant be drafted or bought with free agency just need time for players to develop. You can only do so much before players have to do it for themselves.

Sprtsfanatic
10-12-2009, 12:34 PM
who's to say that getting the undersized and weak myers out from center wont improve the run game??? seems like the rest of the line is getting sufficient push and blocking who they are supposed to but myers just isnt cutting it anymore. he fails to push his man off the line and seal off the back side if the run is through his gap

TransplantTexan1
10-12-2009, 12:38 PM
I want to pound the crap out of both.

It is becoming more obvious that the problems on this team are structural in nature. We are built too small, lack push up front, and really should have taken a pile moving running back in the draft instead of more useless TEs.

Kubiak and Smith have built the team they want. Unfortunately, this is not a team that can win in the NFL. They have built a Jekyll/Hyde team that has no identity outside its own inconsistency.

Sunday's game established that once again it looks like another year of spinning our wheels and another offseason of hoping something will pop.

I don't think this is the team they want as much as the team they feel most comfortable with given the issues they're facing--although, I'm not disagreeing with your bigger point that they've put in the players we have based on an evaluation process and now they have to live with the result.

I think you can be smaller on the OL provided that you have guys who are not only quicker off the ball but who are solid with their technique. The problem I'm seeing, primarily with Chris Myers, is that guys are not technically sound, and they're getting beat in ways on the OL that you shouldn't regardless of your talent level. Myers can't be so off balance that he gets swatted down by a slap to the shoulder and he can't get beat because he's allowed the NT/NG to burrow underneath him on a short yardage play.

Similarly, Kasey Studdard can't allow guys standing up right to knock him on his back UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Again, a question of footwork, which is one of the fundamental components of playing the position. It's one thing if a guy can peel off a block quickly, it's another when he can just knock you out of the way or knock you backwards because you haven't set your feet.

Frankly, I don't know how Alex Gibbs hasn't had a coronary by now watching some of the bad technique that's being displayed by some guys.

TransplantTexan1
10-12-2009, 12:41 PM
who's to say that getting the undersized and weak myers out from center wont improve the run game??? seems like the rest of the line is getting sufficient push and blocking who they are supposed to but myers just isnt cutting it anymore. he fails to push his man off the line and seal off the back side if the run is through his gap

I don't think anyone watching this OL won't admit that Myers, unfortunately, is the weakest link on the OL. I really hope that Caldwell can get healthy and start working towards being the next C. I can't imagine Chris White is much of an upgrade--and if he is, I can't imagine why the coaching staff would not have made the change by now.

EarthAndAllStars
10-12-2009, 12:55 PM
No need to panic and no need to blow up the team. This is the most talented team the Texans have fielded. The problem is consistency. How they become consistent I don't know. A new coaching staff may be in order because on any given week this team can beat any other team, the problem is getting them to do it regularly.

If the Texans had a dearth of good players the answer would be easier, but their ability to change from being great to terrible week to week and even half to half is frustrating.

outofhnd
10-12-2009, 01:06 PM
No need to panic and no need to blow up the team. This is the most talented team the Texans have fielded. The problem is consistency. How they become consistent I don't know. A new coaching staff may be in order because on any given week this team can beat any other team, the problem is getting them to do it regularly.

If the Texans had a dearth of good players the answer would be easier, but their ability to change from being great to terrible week to week and even half to half is frustrating.


The answer as I stated before is just time and for the ball to bounce our way a couple of times we really need to discipline ourselves on defense in the next 3 weeks before we face the colts. because the way they manhandled tennesee our secondary look like easy pickens.

Houston Texans_
10-12-2009, 01:33 PM
I want to pound the crap out of both.

It is becoming more obvious that the problems on this team are structural in nature. We are built too small, lack push up front, and really should have taken a pile moving running back in the draft instead of more useless TEs.

Kubiak and Smith have built the team they want. Unfortunately, this is not a team that can win in the NFL. They have built a Jekyll/Hyde team that has no identity outside its own inconsistency.

Sunday's game established that once again it looks like another year of spinning our wheels and another offseason of hoping something will pop.

C'mn tell us how you really feel Coogbull

Houston Texans_
10-12-2009, 01:36 PM
NEITHER!!! We were 2 yards within being 4-1, but then some of you if we 4-1. Would whine about losing to Jets, or some other Whine-fest over some perceived problem/weakness/BS area to gripe about.

As my daddy used to say, you wouldn't be happy if they hung you with a new rope.

TexansFan281
10-12-2009, 01:46 PM
I want to pound the crap out of both.

It is becoming more obvious that the problems on this team are structural in nature. We are built too small, lack push up front, and really should have taken a pile moving running back in the draft instead of more useless TEs.

Kubiak and Smith have built the team they want. Unfortunately, this is not a team that can win in the NFL. They have built a Jekyll/Hyde team that has no identity outside its own inconsistency.

Sunday's game established that once again it looks like another year of spinning our wheels and another offseason of hoping something will pop.

I seriously had a nightmare last night with DRC high-steppin' toward the endzone

TheReaver
10-12-2009, 01:58 PM
NEITHER!!! We were 2 yards within being 4-1, but then some of you if we 4-1. Would whine about losing to Jets, or some other Whine-fest over some perceived problem/weakness/BS area to gripe about.

As my daddy used to say, you wouldn't be happy if they hung you with a new rope.

Yeah and last year if we had just hung on in the Indy game and beaten the Raiders and if our coach had been ready for the season and maybe we went 1-3 to start we would have been 11-5 and maybe made the playoffs. The point is good coaching is the difference in 1-3 plays a game and that's where we keep losing. (Although our bad coaching staff is good for 3-5 horrible offensive play calls a game too, so that's probably 5-8 plays a game they cost us).

CoogBull
10-12-2009, 02:07 PM
NEITHER!!! We were 2 yards within being 4-1, but then some of you if we 4-1. Would whine about losing to Jets, or some other Whine-fest over some perceived problem/weakness/BS area to gripe about.

As my daddy used to say, you wouldn't be happy if they hung you with a new rope.

Yeah. And if we had just scored more points than the Jets we would have won and been 5-0. See we are practically undefeated when you discount the fact that we have lost 3 games.

Good teams make those 2 plays that win games. We don't. The shoulda, coulda, wouldas are getting old. Tangible results on the field are all that matter.