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amazingandre
05-22-2007, 07:13 PM
when he comes on i will report all news lol stay tuned

aj
05-22-2007, 07:54 PM
The one that caught my attention was "here's another example of why Carr can't read defenses." ( and it was a great example - two guys open and in his field of view yet he tucks it in - gets sacked and the OL takes the blame) lol ... I hope Hulk wasn't watching - he'd probably pop a jugular...
Highlighted Matt's quick read ability.
Required watching for many... hopefully they show it again.

caddy
05-22-2007, 08:59 PM
Ya missed one important thing.. able to leap tall buildings with a single bound.

aj
05-22-2007, 09:06 PM
Ya missed one important thing.. able to leap tall buildings with a single bound.
Like a squirrel on a nut.
Take it up with Baldinger. He said it. Not any of us.

TheRealJoker
05-22-2007, 09:07 PM
If anyone can post a vid of the segment for those without NFL network it would be much appreciated.

Grid
05-22-2007, 09:35 PM
Ya missed one important thing.. able to leap tall buildings with a single bound.

Yah im getting so tired of the media sucking our jockstrap. Why doesnt anyone ever have anything negative to say? All of these positive comments about the team are getting old.

Pantherstang84
05-22-2007, 10:35 PM
Ya missed one important thing.. able to leap tall buildings with a single bound.
Hey at least Baldinger backed up his statements about Schaub and Carr with video. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

tsip
05-22-2007, 10:49 PM
The one that caught my attention was "here's another example of why Carr can't read defenses." ( and it was a great example - two guys open and in his field of view yet he tucks it in - gets sacked and the OL takes the blame) lol ... I hope Hulk wasn't watching - he'd probably pop a jugular...
Highlighted Matt's quick read ability.
Required watching for many... hopefully they show it again.

Hulk would deny it happen or just come up with a lame excuse, like Caddy--how far do these guys have to have their faces shoved in it before they figure it out!!

PhilpW
05-22-2007, 11:41 PM
"Kubiak likes to run the bootleg, here's Schaub, great fake, steps up makes great throw. Look at Carr, doesn't sell the fake, rolls out, throws ball at cameraman. No pressure at all. Schaub can read a defense and make the quick decision, here against the Patriots running a zero zone, Matt feels the pressure, completes a beautiful pass. Here's Carr against the Raiders, two open receivers, steps sideways, ball stripped, picked up by Oakland, TD Raiders." What I heard was Matt is an intelligent QB with the skills to succeed. A sports reporter finally looked at film to see just how bad Carr really is.

The Pencil Neck
05-23-2007, 12:26 AM
"Kubiak likes to run the bootleg, here's Schaub, great fake, steps up makes great throw. Look at Carr, doesn't sell the fake, rolls out, throws ball at cameraman. No pressure at all. Schaub can read a defense and make the quick decision, here against the Patriots running a zero zone, Matt feels the pressure, completes a beautiful pass. Here's Carr against the Raiders, two open receivers, steps sideways, ball stripped, picked up by Oakland, TD Raiders." What I heard was Matt is an intelligent QB with the skills to succeed. A sports reporter finally looked at film to see just how bad Carr really is.

NFLN has had some other film examples of Carr making bad decisions. They pointed out the interception in the red-zone against the Browns once where Carr locked on to AJ, watched him the entire time, didn't see or read the linebacker who tipped the ball and it was intercepted. On that same play, they showed that Owen had crossed under AJ and was totally open and heading for the end zone. In another piece of film, they showed Carr against the Giants taking a three step drop and then double clutching instead of throwing it to the open receiver, and then panicking with no rush around him; he ended up getting sacked.
So, it's not like everyone at NFLN has been blind to what was going on.

wrestler4life
05-23-2007, 01:08 AM
Sounds like proof positive that we made the right move. Excited to see what Schaub can do this season!

Nighthawk
05-23-2007, 01:59 AM
Some of us have been saying this stuff about Carr for almost 4 years, and here's a thread where it's like big news that Carr was a chump of a QB. Nice guy and all that, I guess, but a 4 star chump as QB.
Is Schaub going to be better? Could he be worse? Doubtful. Sage would have been and still is better than Carr.
But for YEARS people on this board trotted out the old saws--OL, coaching, etc. etc. ANYTHING but David Carr. I mean, there oughta be an INQUISITION where all the Carr guys have to eat humble pie and lots of it. We should do about six months of that starting now.

SuperstarII
05-23-2007, 02:58 AM
Ya missed one important thing.. able to leap tall buildings with a single bound.

So does Caddy mean something else??......


Well anyway people were saying DC was superman. I remember one old poster saying I got you superman......

Whiskeyrbl
05-23-2007, 05:36 AM
I was a Carr fan, until I got season tickets. That is I was able to see the whole play not just what was on the screen. In a few post earlier this year I was telling some posters that Carr was not seeing guys standing wide open waving their arms while there was still time to get rid of the ball. We had to make a move at QB to even have a chance of improving. If for no other reason than to give the players some hope. If we fans saw this problem just think what the other players were thinking. Schaub may or may not be the savior of this franchise but with him I think we will see NFL level football from our team now.

PhilpW
05-23-2007, 08:06 AM
The big news is the media is recognizing what we've known for years. The NFL Network ran a positive piece on the acquisition of Schaub, something the BSPN folks can't seem to do.

HOU-TEX
05-23-2007, 10:02 AM
Man, I sure hope they replay it. Can some post a time if they hear of a re-air? Please

outofhnd
05-23-2007, 10:15 AM
For once NFL Network made Brian Baldinger sound knowledgeable. That is no easy task before that segment airs I will admit I had a sinking feeling in my gut. But it was a really well written and thorough examination.

GP
05-23-2007, 10:17 AM
Ya missed one important thing.. able to leap tall buildings with a single bound.
LOL.
No, that's the image you've projected onto David Carr.
Who would've thought that the actual FOOTBALL was David's kryptonite?
Once again we have a situation where gameplay footage obviously isn't enough for some people.

GP
05-23-2007, 10:39 AM
Schaub is on (replay of original airing) in about two minutes (It's 9:38 a.m. WED. right now).
It comes back on again at 10:00. Appears to me that the Schaub/Baldinger segment is at about 40 minutes into the hour-long show.
I am going to try and post it to YouTube later today or tonight.

GP
05-23-2007, 10:59 AM
That was, in a word: ****ing.
When you go to court, and they show video footage of you busting into a store and stealing stuff, and the TV new anchor reports "Today, we saw ****ing evidence that 100% places the defendant at the scene of the crime..."
That's what this segment was, in terms of how mentally incapable David Carr has been.
I agree with the previous poster who said he got a sinking feeling in his stomach when he watched it. It wasn't pretty. It dredges up all those things that we talked about on this board when David was our QB.
What we see in this segment is Baldinger breaking down film and showing very clearly that David was indecisive and unable to pull the trigger when it counted. Schaub, on the other hand was reading defenses pre-snap and then making the right read and getting the ball out of his hand.

TexansGrrl
05-23-2007, 11:39 AM
I, too, was a David Carr fan. I have all three colored jerseys with big ole number 8 on 'em. After watching David fall apart last year during the first Titans game, I knew it was over. This NFLN segment has given me hope.
For those of you who get the chance to watch it, check out how the ball goes through the air when Carr is throwing (yes, the do show a couple of plays where he doesn't sack himself) versus the Schaub throws. Schaub's are just better. Touch, delivery, timing, spin... it's all there.
Many of you will want to run away from hope. But have faith in Gary Kubiak. I think his hands were tied a bit last year with Carr. Gary patiently took the time to show Bob McNair that Carr wasn't going to be the answer. Now, we have Schaub. Our new QB is going to make our OL look stellar!
And as for my jerseys, I'll be removing the Carr Patch and working with a blank #8. However, I did go out and get me a nice authentic #90!

texans83
05-23-2007, 12:07 PM
I cant wait till I get to see that segment, I too was a Carr fan and it did take me a while to see that he was the problem and it couldn't be fixed. I like Schaub and I think he will do great things in the future with our football team, I just hope it is sooner than later. Does anybody have a link of the show or anything.

texansturningthecorner
05-23-2007, 01:03 PM
it was a great segment and they showed numerous clips with david and matt showing why one will succeed (matt) and one wasnt (david). they also showed and talked about they didnt have to change anything from what michael vick was doing when the put matt in and showed a clip of him scrambling for about 15 yards and a first down.

Dawgnme
05-23-2007, 01:33 PM
(Intro. from break: clip from March 22 press conference introducing Schaub)
Female host: As the Texans new Quarterback, Matt Schaub spent last week (month before last, lady!) on the phone calling his teammates and introducing himself. Introductions aside now, Schaub has a lot to prove on the field. After throwing only 161 passes in his 3 years as Michael Vick's backup. Brian Baldinger takes a closer look at the expectations surrounding Schaub in Houston.
Baldinger: Gary Kubiak's first decision as the Head Coach of the Houston Texans last year... was a disaster. He paid David Carr $8 million to extend his contract, he couldn't get the job done. (Cut to Carr throwing that perfect pass to Assante Samuel last year) They've now corrected that by trading for Matt Schaub. The difference between the two players? Matt Schaub can get rid of the football. He processes information like a Pentium 2 chip. (Cut to Schaub throwing a perfect 35-yd. strike against Samuel [nice touch, NFLN]) The bonus? Matt Schaub is going to be running the exact same offense that he ran in Atlanta, now in Houston.
(Cut to telestrator) Big part of the offense in Houston is the bootleg (Carr under center - all blue unis. against the Colts, perfect pass to the boom cameraman). Zone stretch. Come off in the Zone Stretch and then bootleg. You think back to Denver where Gary Kubiak came from... Elway, Jake Plummer... bootleg was a big part. But they hardly ran it at all in Houston last year because, David Carr couldn't do it. (Cut to Schaub running the same play against Seattle for a perfect 30-yd. strike to Crumpler) But inAtlanta, it was a big part of the offense. It's the same thing, Zone Stretch. Fake it to Warrick Dunn, gets the hand extended right there, excellent ball fake holding the LBs. Now watch him snap his head around. Read this backside DE, Matt Schaub did that - that's why he pulls up here. Now, find the open zone. Here it is, here comes the receiver in the zone... Matt schaub pulls the trigger. You gotta be able to pull the trigger in this game, and Matt Schaub can do it.
Watch Matt Schaub read coverage right here. (Cut to a 3-wide play against the Vikings) 2-deep, man under. As soon as he sees these man-to-man defenders turn their backs, he knows on third down, pull the ball down. A lot of open space. And then he's an athlete. (Cut to an ankle breaker against the DT, and a 25-yd. scramble for the 1st down) In fact, they never changed any part of the offense for Matt Schaub, when he was in there versus Mike Vick. You'll see Schaubie right here. Can't beat coverage any better than this throw did right here. (Cut to another perfect 50-yd. strike against Samuel in position for receiver to get another 14 YAC) No S in the middle of the field, that's cover 0, and he's got a post here. He knows that he's gonna have outside leverage, forcing it to the middle. He's got to beat this rotating corner coming from the other side, which he does perfectly. Pre-snap recognition, the right throw, huge play for the Falcons. He processes information so quickly. As opposed to David Carr... who had no ability to make good decisions.
(Cut to Carr sack and fumble, and Oakland's return for TD) It's clear from the end zone, that David Carr cannot read coverage. Right now the ball's got out. Boom! There's one, there's two. It can't get easier or more defined than right here. He's got two options, instead, he freezes, he holds on to the ball, the Raiders get 6 going the other way. This happened time and time again. You've got to process information, you've got to be accurate, and then you've got to be tough. (Cut to Schaub on a 25-yd. out against the Patriots) A QB's decision-making, can beat this blitz right here. Matt Schaub looks right down the barrell, step, throw, take the hit, takes the shot to the ribs, doesn't flinch, delivers this ball perfectly like the defender isn't there. Matt Schaub has only attempted 161 passes in the NFL in his 3-year carreer, not very many. But it's throws like this that have convinced Gary Kubiak and the Houston Texans that he is now ready, and poised, to lead this team.
Female host: So, Brain Baldinger giving Matt Schaub, or Schaubie as he calls him a very good chance to succeed in Houston. Rod, what do you think?
Rod Woodson: Well, if you look at the team, they were 21st in rushing last year, and if Ahman Green, if he comes in and they're better than that, then he has an opportunity because there hasn't been too many QBs in the NFL present and in history that can take the brunt load of throwing the football down in and down out. I think Matt Schaub falls in that category, you don't want to see him throw the football 45 times a game. You want to see him hand the ball off to Ahman Green, and watch this guy run for good yardage because once you start getting into a one-sided game throwing the football, defenses can pin their ears back and get after a QB. So, if they can be balanced, then he has an opportunity to be successful.
Mike Lombardi (former Raiders FO): But you know, Rod, you would have liked to have played against David Carr 'cause he stares down the opponent, and you would have had a lot of INTs in that game. But I think Houston had to make this move, QBs never make it to the market in free agency, they never come available, and secondly, Houston last year, Houston only averaged 5.8 per attempt, and that's way too low. They need to be able to throw the ball up the field. David Carr last year was 68% completions, that's really good, but he couldn't get the ball up the field. His eye level was way down, he was watching his offensive lineman, and he really couldn't make a play. They need plays in the passing game. To win in the NFL, you gotta make plays in the passing game. You run to keep the lead, you throw to get the lead.
Woodson: You know, a lot of people say that Schaub was the best aquisition in the offseason, but I really like David Carr going to Carolina because, I don't know how bad he is. I know he held the ball a lot, but I think he held the ball more so because he was getting hit a lot, he didn't trust his receivers outside of Johnson - that's the only guy he had that could catch the football, and he looked at him ALL the time. So, with that, I would like to see what David Carr can do because I'm not a Jake DelHomme fan. I think, he has a better football team going to Carolina, more weapons, I'd just like to see him get in there and see how good he can be because he has some talent, now let's see if he can be taught and get out of those bad habits he had in Houston.
Lombardi: I think he's going to need to take some time off, to kind of get his body, get his eye level back up a little bit so he can look down the field, because right now David Carr doesn't see anything but those guys rushing, and he's a fumbler in the pocket, and he's a turnover waiting to happen. He needs a break right now.
Female host: And Matt Schaub certainly though will need some help from the OL to avoid the sacks that David Carr took.
DANG!!! Anything for my peeps, though. Try this link:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/

HydrOshocK
05-23-2007, 01:55 PM
Oh man I would LOVE to be able to watch it. If you get a chance to post it on You Tube you'll be my new hero. It's about time someone in the national media sheds some light on this issue. Too bad they didn't do it before the FO decided to give Carr that contract extension.
Caddy, the Carr man-crush thing is really getting old. What will it take?? I bet you'd rather see us have another losing season just so you can say "I told you so" than to see Schaub succeed here. You'll be the only one in the stands with a pathetic frown on your face if you can't decide to let go of the past and embrace the guys we have on this team. Get over it dude.

Tulip
05-23-2007, 03:02 PM
Dawg - thanks so much for the transcript and extra descriptions. Much appreciated.

The Pencil Neck
05-23-2007, 03:09 PM
Great post, Dawgnme. Rep to ya.

Oh, that's right. No rep button over here...

HOU-TEX
05-23-2007, 03:17 PM
Wow! Thanks Dawg. Man, I sure hope I get to see that clip.
Did anyone notice that after all the proof Baldy gave, the female host still had to take a little jab at our Oline. lol

Dawgnme
05-24-2007, 01:19 AM
No worries! Like I said, anything for the peeps. Hey GP, did you get an opportunity to post the video? I couldn't find it.

GP
05-24-2007, 06:43 PM
The video is being uploaded in the next hour or two.
Check back on this thread at 9:00 p.m. Central Time tonight, Thursday May 24.
Meanwhile, you can view my Amobi Okoye senior bowl highlight YouTube video in the Bull Pen section, thread title "Amobi Okoye Senior Bowl Highlight Video"