Slatons's Fumbles Kubiak and RB Coach

[2Cents]

If the Coaching staff really wanted to help Steve Slaton and his Fumble problem they would work on the Location of the ball not just slapping at it during practice.

I saw where Slaton carried the ball on his fumble Sunday. It was low at his waist and away from his body. Hmmmmmmm kind of reminds me of Tikki Barber.

Speaking of Tikki Barber. If you compare running styles and body build I think Slaton is a Barber clone.

Slaton change the position of the Ball to High tight and against your ribs and chest. Just watch Tikki film of before and after he changed the location of where he carried the ball.

Still a Steve Slaton Fan !!!!!!!!

and thats my 2 cents

[Se7en]

If the Coaching staff really wanted to help Steve Slaton and his Fumble problem they would work on the Location of the ball not just slapping at it during practice.

I saw where Slaton carried the ball on his fumble Sunday. It was low at his waist and away from his body. Hmmmmmmm kind of reminds me of Tikki Barber.

Speaking of Tikki Barber. If you compare running styles and body build I think Slaton is a Barber clone.

Slaton change the position of the Ball to High tight and against your ribs and chest. Just watch Tikki film of before and after he changed the location of where he carried the ball.

Still a Steve Slaton Fan !!!!!!!!

and thats my 2 cents

I am not about tog o dig up the other 50 post talking about this. Each week someone else comes along saying Tiki Barber needs to teach SLaton how to protect the ball, Slaton needs to study film from Barber, etc.

Slaton was not a fumble machine last season. Players are now goign after the ball and not even attempting to tackle Slaton. Yesterday the player went after the ball and did not even attempt to tackle Slaton.

If he had held the ball their he could have had a wonderful game and it would have been his chance to shake the "fumbler" label that has people more interested in turnovers than tackling him. If we can use that to our advantage, then he will be a tough guyt o tackle until people start fearing him again.

I am confident he will fix it and get back to form, hopefully sooner rather than later. We also need him to start seeing the wholes that are opening for him, because he is not reading the blocks very wel at all. It looks like his head is not in the game for every play and that is what is getting frustrating for me.

[outofhnd]

its the same thing that happened to Reggie Bush in year 2. He is looking for the big run on every play. he is stopping in the hole looking for a cutback that isnt there. Moats just hit the hole assigned. Moats kept his legs moving. all of those things translated into bigtime yards. Hope steve took mental notes.

[Se7en]

its the same thing that happened to Reggie Bush in year 2. He is looking for the big run on every play. he is stopping in the hole looking for a cutback that isnt there. Moats just hit the hole assigned. Moats kept his legs moving. all of those things translated into bigtime yards. Hope steve took mental notes.

Exactly, Slaton is trying to hit homeruns on every play and sometimes you just need to take the 3 yards and get up for the next play.

[Texaholic]

Exactly, Slaton is trying to hit homeruns on every play and sometimes you just need to take the 3 yards and get up for the next play.

There is no excuse for fumbling at this level, yet here you are, making them anyway.

[Se7en]

There is no excuse for fumbling at this level, yet here you are, making them anyway.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

You are so primed for a fight you totally misread my post. I agreed with the guy saying the reason Slaton is failing as a RB this season because he is focusing on trying to make huge plays and forgetting the basics like holding on to the ball.

You are right... clearly I am making excuses for Slaton by saying he should starting job and only take the field to give Moats breaks when he gets tired.

My opinion is that Slaton needs a few weeks to get his head on straight not that he needs another chance.

Read the posts next time before trying to slam someone because you failed to follow the discussion at hand.

[Texaholic]

You are right... clearly I am making excuses for Slaton by saying he should starting job and only take the field to give Moats breaks when he gets tired...

Is this english?

RBs get paid millions to run the ball, holding on to the ball is implied, he shouldnt need ball holding lessons at this point in his career. He will be out of a job soon if this problem continues.

[Se7en]

RBs get paid millions to run the ball, holding on to the ball is implied, he shouldnt need ball holding lessons at this point in his career. He will be out of a job soon if this problem continues.

I am glad you agree with my point of view for a change.

[chjoak]

If the Coaching staff really wanted to help Steve Slaton and his Fumble problem they would work on the Location of the ball not just slapping at it during practice.

I saw where Slaton carried the ball on his fumble Sunday. It was low at his waist and away from his body. Hmmmmmmm kind of reminds me of Tikki Barber.

Speaking of Tikki Barber. If you compare running styles and body build I think Slaton is a Barber clone.

Slaton change the position of the Ball to High tight and against your ribs and chest. Just watch Tikki film of before and after he changed the location of where he carried the ball.

Still a Steve Slaton Fan !!!!!!!!

and thats my 2 cents

Or maybe SS should be a professional and take some responsibility to fix the problem himself. When Tiki had a fumble problem he didn't rely on his coaches to fix it for him. He went out and fixed it himself. Oh and it wasn't just a matter of how he was holding the ball. Tiki went out and worked with a World's Strongest Man competitor and significantly increased his functional strength (not weight lifting strength). That is what Tiki contributes to fixing his problem.

Exactly, Slaton is trying to hit homeruns on every play and sometimes you just need to take the 3 yards and get up for the next play.

Someone needs to introduce him to Barry Sanders. That guy would pick up 1-3 yds on every run and then break 1-2 20+ yd runs per game and he is considered one of the best. You don't have to hit a homerun every at bat.

[Coog]

I think he is thinking so much about not fumbling, that he isnt doing what he should be doing which hitting the hole. Also, you can concentrate so much on one thing that you actually cause to happen more often, which I think he is also doing. It happens to golfers alot, where they slice a ball. Then they concentrate so much on not slicing that they slice even worse.

[2Cents]

Yep it is self fullfilling. You think about not doing something so much that you do it. It doesn't help that the Coaching Staff harps on it all the time. Don't Harp try Helping!!!!!

As far as the guy who commented on Tiki fixing everything all by himself that's just great but how many games did he play and fumble in before he became the self motivating guru he was? Seems to me it was at least six before he solved his fumble problems.

Yesterday on channel 13 I saw one of Moats TD runs all Slaton really has to do is watch that run and see where Moats had the Ball (right where Tiki held the ball after he fixed his fumble problems).

Moats does look like the better back right now but you also have to remember he was playing against the # 32 rush defense in the League. If people were worried about Slaton playing a full game what about Moats?

He isn't the biggest guy and looks smaller than Slaton. So I don't know if he can hold up the rest of the season as the Numero uno back.

It's funny to me that everyone loved Slaton. Now everyone loves Moats cause he didn't fumble and ran on the 32 ranked rush defense in the League.

Almost forgot. The reason the defensive player didn't try and tackle Slaton was cause he saw the same thing I did. That football hanging out in space away from Slaton's body. Why bother to tackle when you can just punch the ball out.
The bad thing now is that the defense is actually trying to hold Slaton upright so they can go for the ball instead of tackeling him. The only way to solve that is to hold onto the ROCK.

Still a Slaton fan for my 2 cents worth

[SUPERTANK]

Yeah, Slaton fan here also...

I heard that the OL is different because we have 2 starters out so they are not running the zone block scheme like last year so this could be why slaton is not being productive as last year.

I have seen Moats run the ball last year against bigger defenses and he got nothing in YPC...

All I am saying is if Steve can't be effective the second half of this season; we will see another man next year starting and his name will not be Moats although I think Moats can contribute and help teams on this level, just not starter material especially being in the league 5 years already. Most RB's are not like wine (QB's) where they get better over age, anyone remember Dominick Davis?