Colts Game 1 Smack Talk Thread

[jkeener71]

These 4 guys are talking about the Colts and who can finally beat them, and they don't even consider the Texans as one of the Teams. According to them, only the Patriots, Ravens, or Bills (because of the Cold weather) might have a chance to beat the Colts.

[korvac]

Wow, theres no chance the bills beat us. You guys are 10 times the team they are and have first shot at it. And considering you play us twice I'd say you have the best chance of anyone in the league.

[revan]

Well if the Niners gave em a run for their money, a team we beat, Im sure without Rosencopter to throw this game away we will do fine. Besides, Schaub is on CRACK right now and cant be stopped!!! And now we look like the freaken Broncos in those days when they could stick anyone in the backfield and make em run for 1,000 yards!!! I LOVE MY TEAM!!!!

[houstonsportsfan09]

Can you really blame them? Sure we gave them a run for their money last year but we still lost. We for whatever reason have struggled to beat them during our 8 year tenure. History favors the Colts and them beating us. However, I'd like to see that be proved wrong come Sunday.

[Rett]

I think it is going to be a really close game. Not sure we will win, but if we do I am predicting 34-31 Texans.

Korvac has it right. We stand a much better chance than the Bills.

[GoldenHolden]

I don't expect any of the national media to give us a chance. I think we have the capability to win this game if we play 60 minutes on both sides of the ball. It should be a good one.

[A-B]

We are 1-13 against the Colts. What did you expect them to say? Not saying we will lose this weekend but I dont expect the media to be on our bandwagon...yet.;)

[Griz]

Since we are 9 to 9.5 point undogs this week, what would you expect them to say?

[wildroot]

These 4 guys are talking about the Colts and who can finally beat them, and they don't even consider the Texans as one of the Teams. According to them, only the Patriots, Ravens, or Bills (because of the Cold weather) might have a chance to beat the Colts.

Colt are undefeated. My heart says we win but my head says we're over matched. Colt are an elite team and I don't put us in that group....yet.

We've played two teams that I put in our class/level and those are AZ and Cinncy. We beat Cinncy but Indy is in a whole different class. Other than AZ and Cinncy, our opponents have 16-33 record, about a .333 winning %. The Colt opponents have basically the same culmitive record but have beat all commers. The Colts will be our first major test this year.

[KnghtX]

Wildroot, read what you wrote again and rethink you statement sir.

"We've played two teams that I put in our class/level and those are AZ and Cinncy. We beat both those teams"

[Macaronitoni]

Colt are undefeated. My heart says we win but my head says we're over matched. Colt are an elite team and I don't put us in that group....yet.

We've played two teams that I put in our class/level and those are AZ and Cinncy. We beat both those teams but Indy is in a whole different class. Other than AZ and Cinncy, our opponents have 16-33 record, about a .333 winning %. The Colt opponents have basically the same culmitive record but have beat all commers. The Colts will be our first major test this year.

we didnt beat AZ?

[mydaughters2]

Can you really blame them? Sure we gave them a run for their money last year but we still lost. We for whatever reason have struggled to beat them during our 8 year tenure. History favors the Colts and them beating us. However, I'd like to see that be proved wrong come Sunday.

History about to change Sunday for Houston ! NFL network & Espn are garbage !

[Colts4thewin]

You guys have won 1 time in the last 13 games against us. That record speaks for itself, as far as my optimism goes. For the record, I think this game and the Broncs are our only possible losses this season. Some fool said Brady is gonna smoke us, but I'm not feelin' them this year. Ya know? He doesn't seem as sharp since he came back from surgery. Watching the 9'ers almost get us had me sweating, but I think a little adversity makes us stronger. There's no way we're slipping this early in the season. 34-17 Colts!

[rittenhouserobz]

Well history is on the side of the Colts, but things change. If the game was over before it started, then they would hand over the Lombardi trophy during preseason. Thats not how it works. If the Texans protect the ball well on offense, and the defense keeps getting 3 and outs, then we have a good shot. I think we will cover the spread win or lose.

[jkeener71]

we didnt beat AZ?

We ALMOST did, but ALMOST don't mean crap. :mad:

[El KahunaGrande]

You guys have won 1 time in the last 13 games against us. That record speaks for itself, as far as my optimism goes. For the record, I think this game and the Broncs are our only possible losses this season. Some fool said Brady is gonna smoke us, but I'm not feelin' them this year. Ya know? He doesn't seem as sharp since he came back from surgery. Watching the 9'ers almost get us had me sweating, but I think a little adversity makes us stronger. There's no way we're slipping this early in the season. 34-17 Colts!

If adversity makes you stronger (I agree) then the Texans are becoming quite the musclemen.

I've never seen a team with so much fight and so little quit, in H Town, other than the clutch city Rockets (repeat NBA champs), and the 80 and 86 Astros who both got robbed from their championships BTW. The Luv Ya Blue era Oilers were overacheivers too.

History and statistics only show what HAS happened, and while they can sometimes be a predictor or indicator of things to come, that doesn't always hold true. If it did, there would be no reason to play the games. What if Peyton goes down with a career ending injury before the game ever starts? Stats can't predict everything.

8 years from now we may be saying that the Texans and Clots are even in all time record against each other.

[HOUSTON2]

You guys have won 1 time in the last 13 games against us. That record speaks for itself, as far as my optimism goes. For the record, I think this game and the Broncs are our only possible losses this season. Some fool said Brady is gonna smoke us, but I'm not feelin' them this year. Ya know? He doesn't seem as sharp since he came back from surgery. Watching the 9'ers almost get us had me sweating, but I think a little adversity makes us stronger. There's no way we're slipping this early in the season. 34-17 Colts!

As far as Brady smoking you........he going to cornhole you ! Remember Patriots have a seasoned coach, VS. rookie trash can coach with legs & arms...Texans will at least walk with a split or possible 2 wins, you will lose to the Broncos, Ravens, VY will also have his way with the Colts defense like I said TEXANS 35 Colts 14 .......COLTS are due to lose....and this upcoming part of thier schedule will be the Colts downfall....cheescake games are over for Colts.........

[HOUSTON2]

Also Peyton is a choke artist just like his cry baby brother Eli, he coud never win the big one with Tennessee ! And as for this year he not going to win the Super bowl, Saints would get that before him......Peyton's glory days in the AFC south are numbered.....the 1998 draft is 11 years old and so is Peyton & the Colts........

[Texaholic]

Take the name off of the teams.

Team A has a record of 1-13 against team B.

Team A is 5-3 and on the road against a 7-0 team B.

Im no going into a bunch of other stats because these 2 things alone are enough reason for most people outside of team As hometown to pick team B.

Stop looking for networks to GIVE respect and wait for it to be EARNED.

[wildroot]

Wildroot, read what you wrote again and rethink you statement sir.

"We've played two teams that I put in our class/level and those are AZ and Cinncy. We beat both those teams"

You're right....my bad. I guess that strenghtens my point even more then as we didn't beat one of the teams that i put in our pool. I was impressed with the Cinncy win though.

[wildroot]

I've never seen a team with so much fight and so little quit

I keep reading that statement and i can't quite see how that applies to this team at this juncture.

I didn't see any fight against the Jets
Titans are cream-puffs this year, everyones beat them.
Lost to the Jags...at home
The Raiders, I mean, c'mon...The Raidas?
Cards are a shadow of the '08 team, just the same we lost.
The Bengals win impressed
49ers and Bills, both teams we should beat.

Again, I still don't see the "so much fight and so little quit"
If it's the 49er and Bills game your refering to, I don't think it was so much that we didn't quit, more that we didn't show up for the first half then simply played our game in the 2nd half. I didn't see anything heroic about it, rather it was troubling that it took us a half to get out of that funk and start playing.

This game against the Colts is going to be telling for this team. This game is going to give us a barometer on how we stack up against the better teams.

[dbruder44]

Wildroot, read what you wrote again and rethink you statement sir.

"We've played two teams that I put in our class/level and those are AZ and Cinncy. We beat both those teams"

I know I was drunk at that game in Phoenix we WON sweet Jesus, can I go back and relive it again, as I forgot that we won that game......

[Se7en]

Take the name off of the teams.

Team A has a record of 1-13 against team B.

Team A is 5-3 and on the road against a 7-0 team B.

Im no going into a bunch of other stats because these 2 things alone are enough reason for most people outside of team As hometown to pick team B.


Good thing you stopped there, you only picked numbers that proved your point.

Team A are road warriors this season!

[Se7en]

Titans are cream-puffs this year, everyones beat them.

The Titans were not cream puffs when we took them on, they were punching us in the face and we punched back. I think we turned them in to the cream puffs when we beat them and took their manhood! :D

[weretalkinproud]

I know I was drunk at that game in Phoenix we WON sweet Jesus, can I go back and relive it again, as I forgot that we won that game......

Did you guys see a different game? What the hell are you two talking about?

[dbruder44]

Did you guys see a different game? What the hell are you two talking about?


Somebody said we beat both AZ and Cincy, Jokingly I just had to poke fun at them, I was there we lost, but did have a lot of liquid courage in me, since my avatar says boozehound I thought I would play it up to tease them.

[weretalkinproud]

Oh thank god, I thought I was going to have to set up an intervention.

[jkeener71]

OK there are a few on our side:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/powerrankings

Updated Nov. 3

Here's a big game this week: Houston Texans at Indianapolis Colts.

What?

As strange as that sounds, that's what we have Sunday in Indianapolis. The 7-0 Colts, who didn't look all that good last week against the San Francisco 49ers, play host to the red-hot Texans. At 5-3, Houston is in second place in the AFC South and has a chance to creep within two games if it can pull an upset.

If the Colts win, the division race is over. They will have a four-game lead with eight to go.

The 12 victories between the two teams are the most for any game this week, including Steelers-Broncos (11) and Cowboys-Eagles (10).

The Texans are in a big game? You bet.

What's even more appealing: There will be plenty of passes filling the air. The Texans lead the NFL in passing yards, while the Colts are second.

The Colts lead in yards per game and the Texans are right behind. Texans quarterback Matt Schaub is tied with Brett Favre and Drew Brees for the league lead in touchdown passes with 16. Peyton Manning is second with 15.

Let it rip, boys.

The Texans are two games over .500 at the halfway point for the first time in their history. That has them up to the No. 13 spot in the CBSSports.com Power Rankings, while the Colts remain in the top spot.

Houston did suffer a big hit to its offense when tight end Owen Daniels went down for the season with a knee injury. That will put more pressure on Andre Johnson outside in the passing game. He sees a lot of double coverage anyway, but now he might see three-man coverage. I mean it.

The Texans could easily be 7-1, by the way. They fumbled on the goal line with a chance to send the game into overtime against Jacksonville, then got stopped on downs at Arizona in the final seconds from the 1-yard line.

How big would this be if they won those two? As it is, it's plenty big.

In fact, it's the Game of the Week, based on the victories.

The Texans? Believe it.

[dbruder44]

Hey some love, it is always nice to read......

Most people don't realize we could be 7-1 we have only been dominated once this year. Can't wait until Sunday

[weretalkinproud]

Nice!

Yeah no doubt on that 7-1, it's a shocking look even on paper.

[korvac]

So I take it mydaughters2 and houston2 are your guys' 2 *********s, and the rest of you are actual football fans. Is it something about the number 2?

[Se7en]

So I take it mydaughters2 and houston2 are your guys' 2 *********s, and the rest of you are actual football fans. Is it something about the number 2?

We will need some helping figuring out what ********s is refering to? Maybe some context clues so we can answer your question. :)

[Wildbill703]

Colt are undefeated. My heart says we win but my head says we're over matched. Colt are an elite team and I don't put us in that group....yet.

We've played two teams that I put in our class/level and those are AZ and Cinncy. We beat Cinncy but Indy is in a whole different class. Other than AZ and Cinncy, our opponents have 16-33 record, about a .333 winning %. The Colt opponents have basically the same culmitive record but have beat all commers. The Colts will be our first major test this year.

Since only 12 teams in the league have winning records these stats don't mean very much. Subtracting out the teams you mentioned and one for us and the colts that leaves 8 teams with winning records. So we should expect to see dismal stats from our opponents.

I'm not sure how much diffeence there really is between the top tier teams and the second tier teams. A few wildcards have been to the Superbowl lately.

[korvac]

I think you could put just about any deroggative word in there you like and it would fit. Most of you seem like football fans discussing the game, those 2 look like they're just haters. It's all good though, they aren't the first to go all spastic on us, just making note of it.

[jkeener71]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10313326/Schein-9:-These-aren't-same,-old-Texans

1. Foaming at the mouth
Don't look now, but the Houston Texans are for real. Seriously.

Houston (5-3) had a big statement win in Buffalo. Yeah, that's right. It's a victory against a team that had won two straight, in a difficult place to play. And let's be honest: These aren't your nephew's Texans (it would be tough to call them your father's Texans or even your sister's Texans because they have only been around this decade). In the past, if you have bothered to follow the mediocre history of this club, Houston loses these games. They tease you and slip back to .500. Don't look now, but the Texans have strung together three straight strong games, in Cincy, at home against the Niners and this past weekend against the Bills.

It sets up a golden opportunity to make a gigantic statement in Indy against the undefeated Colts. And I think they have a very realistic chance to win the game. Again, seriously.

The Buffalo game was one where Houston had to deal with adversity. Matt Schaub, who has had a spectacular season, threw a pair of picks. Steve Slaton was fumbling the ball and rightly was glued to the bench. Stud tight end Owen Daniels left the game with a season-ending injury. The Texans, in prior years, would've lost and limped home at 4-4, and the fans, if they channeled their inner New York attitude, would be saying, relatively speaking, "Same, old Texans."

But this year, it's about efficiency and resilience. Star linebacker DeMeco Ryans told us on Monday that the Texans are playing with a lot of moxie. Ryans said: "We are finishing games. We are confident. We don't let things affect us like we did in the past. If we turn the ball over or give up big plays, we regroup. That's the big difference." And that's not player speak. That's a fact, compared with previous Texans teams. Houston now takes the field expecting to win, in a year when the owner predicted the playoffs.

During a wide-ranging interview on Sirius NFL Radio, Ryans also praised Gary Kubiak for his approach and new defensive coordinator Frank Bush for his aggressive style. And Ryans is truly appreciative of the effort of new linebacker Brian Cushing, who has been a tackling machine en route to being the early favorite (sorry, Jairus Byrd) for the Defensive Rookie of the Year. Finally, Houston has a legit defense!

And with Slaton on the pine, it gave Ryan Moats the opportunity to dazzle. The former Eagles draft pick has always had the talent, but injuries held him back. Moats gashed the Bills for three touchdowns and a stunning 126 yards. While we were all surprised, Ryans says the Texans see this talent on display in practice daily. Ryans anticipates that while Slaton will be given another opportunity (and he should be, with his talent), Moats will still get a lot of action in the game against Indy.

Ah yes, Indy.

You mean the team that owns a 13-1 record against the Texans, who treats them like the freshman squad? Yes, those Colts.

But for the first time in franchise history, there is a swagger to the Texans. Schaub, though at a disadvantage sans Owen Daniels on Sunday, can officially go point for point with Peyton Manning. Andre Johnson is Reggie Wayne. The Texans offensive line has played surprisingly well. Mario Williams is the answer to Dwight Freeney. And Houston did a great job against the Bengals' high-powered attack earlier in the year.

Now, the Colts are the Colts. Jim Caldwell told us on Sirius NFL Radio on Monday that he doesn't worry about his team ever getting ahead of itself because it has had the gaudy record before and the leadership on the team is too strong.

But Houston, no longer the red-headed stepchild of the AFC South, is primed to win 10 games this season no matter what happens in Indy.

Seriously.

It might be worth your time to pay attention.

[korvac]

Yeah, the Texans seem to be modelling themselves after the colts and it's working very well for them. This game is going to be like 2 mirror images going at it. Should be the most entertaining game of the year.

[Se7en]

Yeah, the Texans seem to be modelling themselves after the colts and it's working very well for them. This game is going to be like 2 mirror images going at it. Should be the most entertaining game of the year.

We are building our team to "beat" the Colts, not "be" the Colts. :D

This should be an awesome game on Sunday with 2 great teams going head to head!

[korvac]

Well I'm sure you are building to beat us. But unlike the Jags and Titans who built themselves to be the anti-colts hoping that would work, the Texans are trying to match fire with fire.

[Se7en]

Well I'm sure you are building to beat us. But unlike the Jags and Titans who built themselves to be the anti-colts hoping that would work, the Texans are trying to match fire with fire.

Hehe, that is just our offense getting the job done. We are built after the Broncos on that sid eof the ball and run Kubes version of the West Coast game that is starting to get tagged as "Gulf Coast Football."

Our defensive approach has always been to build to stop the top teams of the AFC South and that is the reason we spent so many first round picks on D-line. It was not working with our old DC, so now we have a new one who is doing a better job stopping teams.

We were building to stop the Tacks last season because theyw er eon top last year. Your post comes across as if you guys are the golden child that we wish we could be like. :rolleyes: We do not like the Colts over here as much as you do. :p

[korvac]

Not wanting to be like a team that has won the division every year but one would be foolish. Your team talent wise is very similar to the colts, and play a similar game, it's not belittling you guys, it's a compliment.

[JasonKayne]

Not wanting to be like a team that has won the division every year but one would be foolish. Your team talent wise is very similar to the colts, and play a similar game, it's not belittling you guys, it's a compliment.

What you have to understand is that Texans fans haven't had much opportunity to talk smack, unless we were talking about our own team. The reason some folks become fans in the first place (Eagles and Cowboys fans come to mind) is so they can talk trash from the bandwagon. If the Colts win Sunday those "fans" will go back to wanting the whole organization fired and the owner shipped off to LA, or perhaps Bosnia. :p

[Rett]

My wife has already put out the word to people that it would be extremely foolish, not to mention dangerous to their health to dare to interrupt me even to say hello come Sunday. I will be glued to the TV for the duration. I'm glad I have DVR because if I have to go, I won't miss a second of it.

This should prove to be one hack of a game win or lose. Goooooooo TEXANS!

[Se7en]

Not wanting to be like a team that has won the division every year but one would be foolish. Your team talent wise is very similar to the colts, and play a similar game, it's not belittling you guys, it's a compliment.

Thanks for proving that you do not get what we are saying at all.

The Tacks did not try to be like you guys last season and they won the division. We do not want to be like your team and we are not building to try and be like the Colts. Kubiak is creating a team like he had in Denver, that has nothing to do with you and your self-righteous opinion about how we want to be like the Colts some day.

You are just not understanding why it is condescending to tell someone that you are the greatest ever and we should hope to be liek your team some day. :rolleyes:

[Se7en]

If the Colts win Sunday those "fans" will go back to wanting the whole organization fired and the owner shipped off to LA, or perhaps Bosnia. :p

Most of us are realistic and see us splitting with the Colts this season, it is not insane for us to win both games or lose both games either. The fans that flip out after every lose are the vast minority of a teams fanbase.

Unless you are the Cleveland Browns this season... :eek:

[korvac]

Keep putting words in my mouth. Not once have I said we're the greatest ever, maybe you think that and that's the reason you keep responding to me with so much rage lol.. I've said time and time again the Texans are a good team, you just look past that fishing for a reason to hate on a colts fan. It's all good though, keep gettin yourself all worked up. I'll keep on talkin with the texan fans that wanna talk football, not play up this make believe rivalry.

[protoTexans]

I'll keep on talkin with the texan fans that wanna talk football, not play up this make believe rivalry.

I will not put words in your mouth Bud, I would like to put my foot in your asp, but I still don't see why you cannot see this as any type of Rivalry Game. hmmmm Same division, perhaps we should just have a PiciNic on Sunday & talk about the weather!!! If it is not a Rivalry, then call it a fackin Hate Game & we just Hate the Colts.:rolleyes: No Rivalry here Bud....



oooops, did I say that.....

[wildroot]

The Titans were not cream puffs when we took them on, they were punching us in the face and we punched back. I think we turned them in to the cream puffs when we beat them and took their manhood! :D

I suppose that's one way to look at it.

[jmerog]

I can understand why they think that. It's a hard thing to believe - for a non-Texan. I hope this week the team makes believers out of everyone.

Peyton will get owned.


(please dont spoil it for me by pointing out my delusions to me.)

[jmerog]

I can understand why they think that. It's a hard thing to believe - for a non-Texan. I hope this week the team makes believers out of everyone.

Peyton will get owned. Wayne will get CUSHED!


(please dont spoil it for me by pointing out my delusions to me.)

[DexmanC]

Well I'm sure you are building to beat us. But unlike the Jags and Titans who built themselves to be the anti-colts hoping that would work, the Texans are trying to match fire with fire.

In the first 4 years of this franchise, we were modeled much like the
Jags and Titans. We wanted a strong defense, and a safe, ball control
offense. That failed MISERABLY, mainly because our front office had a
blind eye for talent.

The four years since, enter Gary Kubiak. Our head coach is an offensive
GENIOUS. He's also VERY aggressive as a playcaller. Our general manager
is one of the best young GM's in the league when it comes to finding
talent. Of our last 4 drafts, only 4 or 5 players selected are no longer
with the team. So, when you combine an aggressive scheme, and
a roster deep with talent on both sides of the ball, it's only a matter
of time before we contend for the division. Our new defensive coordinator
has the full trust of his players, who are aggressive and disciplined.

The defense you will see Sunday will be VASTLY different than anything
you've seen in the last 3 years. Your receivers WILL be hit. Your o-line
WILL be penetrated, and Peyton WILL be knocked down a few times.
It's the same scheme, but it has a much different attitude. I just can't
wait 'till kickoff.

[Texaholic]

Most of us are realistic and see us splitting with the Colts this season, it is not insane for us to win both games or lose both games either. The fans that flip out after every lose are the vast minority of a teams fanbase.

Unless you are the Cleveland Browns this season... :eek:

If most are realistic and see a split like you say, then why is the poll running like 19-6 (that includes votes from the weekly opposing fans as well) and you get blasted for being negative if you suggest the odds favor the colts winning in indy?

[DexmanC]

This will be the first game in which the Texans can HONESTLY say
they can match the Colts on talent. When you combine that with
our schemes on both sides of the ball, and our players' confidence
IN those schemes, this should be a HELL of a game. If the Colts
come out flat, it could get away from them in a hurry.

The Texans are faster on both sides of the ball, and more
skilled on both sided of the ball, than they've EVER been, and
they are all between the ages of 22-27 years old! We still have
YET to see the best of the Texans. Peyton has been making Pierre
Garcon look like the second-coming of Marvin Harrison. The key to
this game is Manning. Hit him early, often, and get him off the field
on 3rd downs. Do NOT turn the ball over, and the Texans can
contend for the division championship with a victory. If the
Texans lose, the Colts will have effectively clinched the AFC South.

[Tuxicon]

Also Peyton is a choke artist just like his cry baby brother Eli, he coud never win the big one with Tennessee ! And as for this year he not going to win the Super bowl, Saints would get that before him......Peyton's glory days in the AFC south are numbered.....the 1998 draft is 11 years old and so is Peyton & the Colts........

Are you like 12 years old?

[blake1776]

Hehe, that is just our offense getting the job done. We are built after the Broncos on that sid eof the ball and run Kubes version of the West Coast game that is starting to get tagged as "Gulf Coast Football."

Our defensive approach has always been to build to stop the top teams of the AFC South and that is the reason we spent so many first round picks on D-line. It was not working with our old DC, so now we have a new one who is doing a better job stopping teams.

We were building to stop the Tacks last season because theyw er eon top last year. Your post comes across as if you guys are the golden child that we wish we could be like. :rolleyes: We do not like the Colts over here as much as you do. :p

Love it.

[Colts4thewin]

As far as Brady smoking you........he going to cornhole you ! Remember Patriots have a seasoned coach, VS. rookie trash can coach with legs & arms...Texans will at least walk with a split or possible 2 wins, you will lose to the Broncos, Ravens, VY will also have his way with the Colts defense like I said TEXANS 35 Colts 14 .......COLTS are due to lose....and this upcoming part of thier schedule will be the Colts downfall....cheescake games are over for Colts.........

Whatever, moron. I ALSO remember the Colts coming back from a 21-3 deficit against the Pats to take the AFC championship game and ultimately win the SuperBowl. Remember that?
And as to this nonsense about us having 4 potential losses this season. We will have the conference locked up in 3 more games! So if our coach (who has been with the Colts for 8 years, you moron) decides to rest the starters for the playoffs, then losing the last 3 or 4 games won't make a bit of difference, will it now? 12-4 gets us in the playoffs. So...yeah. You're wrong. Sorry.

[Sprtsfanatic]

Whatever, moron. I ALSO remember the Colts coming back from a 21-3 deficit against the Pats to take the AFC championship game and ultimately win the SuperBowl. Remember that?
And as to this nonsense about us having 4 potential losses this season. We will have the conference locked up in 3 more games! So if our coach (who has been with the Colts for 8 years, you moron) decides to rest the starters for the playoffs, then losing the last 3 or 4 games won't make a bit of difference, will it now? 12-4 gets us in the playoffs. So...yeah. You're wrong. Sorry.

wow...you sound just like a cowgirl fan....let me give you a piece of advice...QUIT LIVING IN THE PAST....how long ago was that??? How about you look at how yall have performed of late...especially that 49'ers game...I mean c'mon...your running back throws more TD's than your qb...(that last comment was just ribbing at you....manning's actually a helluva qb but think our team has a hell of a chance come sunday....to bad its not on a neutral field)

[korvac]

Well even living in the present, we are 7-0. You want us to overlook the first couple of games of your season, yet you seem to focus on our 1 or 2 less than stellar performances, which we still won I might add. You guys really want us to give you credit yet you guys seem to not want to give us any.

[Tuxicon]

Well even living in the present, we are 7-0. You want us to overlook the first couple of games of your season, yet you seem to focus on our 1 or 2 less than stellar performances, which we still won I might add. You guys really want us to give you credit yet you guys seem to not want to give us any.

Wannabe's always want to belittle greatness and build up their own tiny, fragile egos. Texans fans, read the following as I polish my Lombardi Trophy.

"The Colts are owners of the NFL’s best regular-season record (121-46) since the start of the 1999 season, while being the only team to earn nine playoff appearances in the last 10 seasons, including a league-best seven consecutive post-season berths. Indianapolis has won 66 of its last 80 regular-season games. Indianapolis’ winning ways include a 34-10 record in AFC South play, while the club has owned or shared the lead in 102 of 126 weeks of the division’s existence. The Colts won five AFC South championships from 2003-07, the best divisional-title streak in club history. Indianapolis is the only NFL team to have double-digit victory totals and playoff appearances each season since the 2002 NFL Realignment. In 2008, Indianapolis produced its seventh consecutive 10+-victory season, tying the second-longest streak in NFL history (16, San Francisco, 1983-98; 7, Dallas, 1975-81)."

[Tuxicon]

Two words: Peyton Manning.

If the Browns had a player like Peyton Manning, they would be as amazing as the Colts. You are an average team amplified by Peyton. Stop ****ting around the bush and accept your mediocrity as a franchise and as a team. You haven't played anybody, and the Colts fans denial is starting to get frustrating and irritating. Naivety and stupidity is fair game in Colts-land.

So if a team has a HOF player, it takes away from from what they've done? So we should get rid of him to level the playing field? Some loser every week brings up the same lame point. Maybe Tiger Woods should retire to give the other players a better chance. I guess the Chicago Bull's championships are tainted because they had the best B-ball player of all time. Maybe we should outlaw all time great players so the league can be mediocre from head to toe. Because that's the only way you'll make the playoffs. Have a nice day.

[Tuxicon]

Two words: Peyton Manning.


Two words: Texans blow.

[Sprtsfanatic]

Well even living in the present, we are 7-0. You want us to overlook the first couple of games of your season, yet you seem to focus on our 1 or 2 less than stellar performances, which we still won I might add. You guys really want us to give you credit yet you guys seem to not want to give us any.

perhaps you should go back and re-read my post since I've said nothing about overlooking our first couple of games...I like to gauge my team on their recent performance(s) and asked that you do the same instead of a colts fan bringing up an afc championship from years ago....do you really think your the same team as then???

and yes yall are 7-0 right now...I dont deny that but I have not been impressed with yalls recent play...your defense isnt as stout as years past, your running game is no where near what it used to be, but your offense always seems to click well if Manning is given time.

[korvac]

I wasn't talking about you specifically, just tends to be the general trend, take away the Texan bad games they don't count, only count the colts bad games, if you wanna call wins bad games. Our defense isn't good recently? How recent? We held the niners to less points than you. Not quite that recent? #1 in the league in points allowed. I'll give you the running game thing though, it's not very good at all.

[korvac]

Two words: Peyton Manning.

If the Browns had a player like Peyton Manning, they would be as amazing as the Colts. You are an average team amplified by Peyton. Stop ****ting around the bush and accept your mediocrity as a franchise and as a team. You haven't played anybody, and the Colts fans denial is starting to get frustrating and irritating. Naivety and stupidity is fair game in Colts-land.

Seriously, c'mon show some intelligence at least, how old are you. Every colts fan knows exactly why the team is good. Take away your stars and you're horrible too. That's the dumbest argument anyone could ever say, "well if you didn't have great players you would suck" lol. No way....really?

[thunderkyss]

Thanks for proving that you do not get what we are saying at all.

The Tacks did not try to be like you guys last season and they won the division. We do not want to be like your team and we are not building to try and be like the Colts. Kubiak is creating a team like he had in Denver, that has nothing to do with you and your self-righteous opinion about how we want to be like the Colts some day.

You are just not understanding why it is condescending to tell someone that you are the greatest ever and we should hope to be liek your team some day. :rolleyes:

First of all, this team is not, and has not ever been built to stop the Tacks. Regardless who was on top of the AFC Last year, or if the Jags ever get on top... our team was built to get to the QB. One specific QB to be sure.

Offensively, though GK has been trying to build Denver South here in Houston, He's built Indy South, and doesn't want to beleive it. With the Talent we have, we've all stated that we should use the pass to open up the running game. & the Colts have always used play action to help stretch the field.

We are so very much like the Colts...... Our QBs are pocket passers, unlike Jacksonville & Tennessee who are rolling with "athletic" passers. We've got strong #1 & #2 recievers who are a big part of our game. We've got smallish centers. Smallish DTs Rush ends... and corner backs are more physical than the shutdown variety.

We have our differences as well. They are much more creative with the use of their tight-ends. Their QB is a field general in every sense of the word. They actually get to the QB... they have players that have been on their offensive line longer than our team has been a franchise.

[jkeener71]

Two words: Texans blow.

Guess we'll see what happens this Sunday.

Me personally I'm not into all this oh my team is better than yours, and we are going to own your crappy team, etc. etc.

I look at it this way, both teams want to win obviously, but which team comes out and makes the plays and gives enough to come out with the win is what matters. To think for a second the Texans suck and have no chance in beating the Colts is ridiculous, you can deny that fact all you want, but thats your choice. I just hope that it is a great game, and the Texans win, because I am a Texans fan. Plus I love upsets and when the Underdog prevails.

Like the General Motors slogan goes:

May the Best Team Win. :D

[circlecity317]

wow...you sound just like a cowgirl fan....let me give you a piece of advice...QUIT LIVING IN THE PAST....how long ago was that??? How about you look at how yall have performed of late...especially that 49'ers game...I mean c'mon...your running back throws more TD's than your qb...(that last comment was just ribbing at you....manning's actually a helluva qb but think our team has a hell of a chance come sunday....to bad its not on a neutral field)


As of late? 16 straight regular season wins? I'd say the Colts are playing pretty well. This is cute, you guys finally have a decent team and running your mouths.

[A-B]

Wannabe's always want to belittle greatness and build up their own tiny, fragile egos. Texans fans, read the following as I polish my Lombardi Trophy.

"The Colts are owners of the NFL’s best regular-season record (121-46) since the start of the 1999 season, while being the only team to earn nine playoff appearances in the last 10 seasons, including a league-best seven consecutive post-season berths. Indianapolis has won 66 of its last 80 regular-season games. Indianapolis’ winning ways include a 34-10 record in AFC South play, while the club has owned or shared the lead in 102 of 126 weeks of the division’s existence. The Colts won five AFC South championships from 2003-07, the best divisional-title streak in club history. Indianapolis is the only NFL team to have double-digit victory totals and playoff appearances each season since the 2002 NFL Realignment. In 2008, Indianapolis produced its seventh consecutive 10+-victory season, tying the second-longest streak in NFL history (16, San Francisco, 1983-98; 7, Dallas, 1975-81)."

This is a very well thought out and presentable post. The only problem is you said polish your trophy...not trophies which is something the Patriots do and all those great teams that you mention above do. Sorry but your team is not comparible to the ones you mentioned or their trophIES.

But if you would like we could possibly talk to the NFL and just have the post season and SB removed that way we would just play the regular season and end it there handing the trophy to the person who finished wit the best record.:rolleyes:

[circlecity317]

Two words: Peyton Manning.

If the Browns had a player like Peyton Manning, they would be as amazing as the Colts. You are an average team amplified by Peyton. Stop ****ting around the bush and accept your mediocrity as a franchise and as a team. You haven't played anybody, and the Colts fans denial is starting to get frustrating and irritating. Naivety and stupidity is fair game in Colts-land.

The fact is we do Peyton Manning. Mediocrity? Check the Colts and Texans record the last 7 years. Go ahead I'll wait. We have not "played anybody" and have not lost to anybody, and we'll say the same thing after the Texans game.

[infantrycak]

OK folks. Since folks are already talking smack we will convert this to the smack talk thread for the week. Keep it in here and discuss football in the other threads. Neither here nor there should people insult other MB members.

[jkeener71]

OK folks. Since folks are already talking smack we will convert this to the smack talk thread for the week. Keep it in here and discuss football in the other threads. Neither here nor there should people insult other MB members.

Haha, I was like, wait, what the heck happened to my thread. ok then.

I'm not much of a smack talker, but I'll do my best.

[El KahunaGrande]

This is a very well thought out and presentable post. The only problem is you said polish your trophy...not trophies which is something the Patriots do and all those great teams that you mention above do. Sorry but your team is not comparible to the ones you mentioned or their trophIES.

to be fair....

the Colts actually have 2 Lombardi Trophies, even though the first was won when the team was in a different city and 36 years before the latest one.

[jkeener71]

Taken from here:
http://forum.colts.com/showthread.php?t=47014

"If both teams play their best, Colts should win.
If both teams play average, Colts should win.
If Texans play best, Colts play average, will come down to final possession
If Texans play best, Colts play poorly, Texans should win.
If Colts play best, Texans play average, Colts blowout
If Colts play best, Texans play poorly, Sorgi time in Q4
If Colts play average, Texans play poorly, Colts should win.

Of 7 scenarios, 2 Colts blowouts, 3 Colts wins, 1 coin flip, 1 loss. Sounds about 7-9 point spread."

Cocky much? Anyways I hope the Texans get the Upset, it would be so sweet!

[Texaholic]

How can you mock the Colts for thier number of lombardi trophies when the Texans havent had a winning season yet?

You guys are unbearable with just mid-season success, you would think the texans just won 5 super bowls or made the playoffs 10 times in a row.

[Dr. Z]

How can you mock the Colts for thier number of lombardi trophies when the Texans havent had a winning season yet?

You guys are unbearable with just mid-season success, you would think the texans just won 5 super bowls or made the playoffs 10 times in a row.

Guys we really havn't done anything to be talking smack about trophies. One IS better then zero remember! ;)

[Se7en]

How can you mock the Colts for thier number of lombardi trophies when the Texans havent had a winning season yet?

You guys are unbearable with just mid-season success, you would think the texans just won 5 super bowls or made the playoffs 10 times in a row.

The same way that some person feels the need to mock the Texans success this season. I am sure you could explain why someone would discredit a team or players. :rolleyes:

[Rett]

Wow, smack talking degenerating in, well, I dunno. The way I feel about the game is Peyton is one hell of a good QB, maybe one of the smartest in the league and should be with the training from his dad, Tone Dungy and others and the Colts are a good team.

The Texans are on their way up and have been improving in leaps and bounds the last 5 games and with a little luck could have won two other games.

Do we stand a better chance of beating them that any team they have played so far? Yes, we do, but it will take very good play on our part. Do I think we can win it? Yes, but it will be a hard fought game and close.

Now, both sides shake hands and come out fighting and may the best team win and no one get hurt on either side. Ding Ding Ding, Round 1 coming up.

[El KahunaGrande]

Guys we really havn't done anything to be talking smack about trophies. One IS better then zero remember! ;)

He brought it up:
as I polish my Lombardi Trophy

as if it's in his house and he's polishing it. I'd like to tell you what he's really polishing but I'd get a ban. It's sad that even a Colts "fan" doesn't know his team has 2 SB wins in it's history.




How can you mock the Colts for thier number of lombardi trophies when the Texans havent had a winning season yet?

You guys are unbearable with just mid-season success, you would think the texans just won 5 super bowls or made the playoffs 10 times in a row.

How is this "mocking"?

to be fair....

the Colts actually have 2 Lombardi Trophies, even though the first was won when the team was in a different city and 36 years before the latest one.

It's entirely relevant. I'm pointing out that first of all the Colts have 2 SB wins, not 1. Secondly it's relevant in the sense that they've been a franchise for 60 years compared to us being in our 8th year.

Let these Colts fans come in and tout all their statistics from let's say... 1985 through 1995?

That's what I thought. Silence.

Now, they won't be on "top" forever. I use that term very loosely because, in this current era, for all their regular season success, they only have 1 championship which is questionable because of all the Peyton Manning calls the refs gave them that year.

I'll give them that.. one of the best regular season runs in NFL history, but poor to mediocre in overall postseason play with one lucky year. So far the one championship season they had has proven to be a fluke.

And as far as comparing themselves to the 70's dallas cowboys? dude.. that's a reach at best. How many superbowls did the cowboys go to in the 70s? didn't they make the playoffs like 19 out of 20 years or something? The Colts aren't even close to that. The 70s Cowboys had like 8 Hall of Famers. The modern era Colts has one. That's it. And Marshall Faulk might get lucky and get in for things he did after he left your team years ago. And since you brought it up, what were the Colts doing in the 70s? that's right. They sucked, just like they will for the decade after Peyton retires or gets injured.

We're 8 years old. Why pick on an 8 year old?

[Se7en]

How is this "mocking"?

Nobody was mocking, that is just how Texaholic posts. He makes them as extreme as possible so that he can open everyones eyes to how bad the Texans really are.

[El KahunaGrande]

let the Colts fans go brag about their success in the Steelers or Patriots rooms..

teams with 5 sb wins like the cowboys or 49ers...

no.. they want to go pick on the 1st grader... well this first grader is gonna grow up and kick your head in... sooner than you think...

Go Texans.

[Se7en]

no.. they want to go pick on the 1st grader... well this first grader is gonna grow up and kick your head in... sooner than you think.

Post of the Day! Reminds me of those old Milk commercials in the 80s. :D

[jkeener71]

Nobody was mocking, that is just how Texaholic posts. He makes them as extreme as possible so that he can open everyones eyes to how bad the Texans really are.

Hmm, I think they are actually pretty darn good, good enough to make the playoffs, if they can keep improving and find ways to win. Oh and of course beat the Colts.

[A-B]

to be fair....

the Colts actually have 2 Lombardi Trophies, even though the first was won when the team was in a different city and 36 years before the latest one.

If you will notice he was stating statistics starting at the 99 season. Pretty much the Manning era and comparing it to the other championship teams and their era. That's why I said 1 trophy. Since 99 they have put up all these numbers and won all these games and have won 1 trophy where as the other teams it was numerous. What is funny is people keep saying "Well what have we won?" and that is laughable b/c we are only in our 8th yr. There is no comparison b/c the history is too strong even starting at 99. Thats 3 years before we even took the field. Smack talking is smack talking but dont swoop down in here from on high and act like we have no ground to stand on. This will be a good game this weekend and I cant understand why it just cant be left at that.

[korvac]

Now, they won't be on "top" forever. I use that term very loosely because, in this current era, for all their regular season success, they only have 1 championship which is questionable because of all the Peyton Manning calls the refs gave them that year.
You can say that about almost every SB run from any team, tuck rule being one of the most famous

I'll give them that.. one of the best regular season runs in NFL history, but poor to mediocre in overall postseason play with one lucky year. So far the one championship season they had has proven to be a fluke.
No championship season is a fluke, or are you saying any champion that didnt repeat is a fluke?

And as far as comparing themselves to the 70's dallas cowboys? dude.. that's a reach at best. How many superbowls did the cowboys go to in the 70s? didn't they make the playoffs like 19 out of 20 years or something? The Colts aren't even close to that. The 70s Cowboys had like 8 Hall of Famers. The modern era Colts has one. That's it. And Marshall Faulk might get lucky and get in for things he did after he left your team years ago.
Marshal Faulk was well on his way before he left. Apparently you don't watch enough football to know names like Edgerrin James and Marvin Harrison, both going to the HoF. Wayne and Freeney have a definite shot, and our run isn't over




Your homer glasses really get in the way of intelligence, take em off before you post lol.

[BattleTexans]

Check it out, it's Analyzed haha... VERY interesting numbers. Almost dead even.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009110803/2009/REG9/texans@colts/preview#tab:analyze

Based on this ^ ^ ^
Offensive Comparison
- The overall Total yards per game for the Colts is only 25-ish more than the Texans.
- Colts have 35 more passing yards while the Texans have 5 more rushing yards.
- Points per game Colts Avg. only 4 more points than the texans.
- 3rd down coversions for the Colts is 14% higher than the Texans
- But the Texans time of possesion is longer by 3 min.

Deffensive Comparison
- The Texans have only allowed an Avg. of 34 more yards than the Colts.
- Texans have allowed an Avg. of 33 more Passing yards than the Colts.
- Rushing allowed for both teams is pretty dead even at 112.5 .
- Texans have allowed an avg. of only 8 more points than the Colts.
- But the Colts D has allowed 5% More 3rd Down Coversion than the Texans.

So... who ever the Winner is... either way Both teams have their work cut out for them. The Texans might have to work alil harder than the Colts, but I still feel that the Texans will come out with a win.

Ceasar

[Kgbmedic]

We are 1-13 against the Colts. What did you expect them to say? Not saying we will lose this weekend but I dont expect the media to be on our bandwagon...yet.;)

I think the odds are with us considering this is a much better team than in the past.

[korvac]

I know exactly what my team is. They aren't a dynasty, but they are a champion in this decade at least once, where's yours?Break out the "If you guys didn't have great players, you would suck" comment you used before, I still get a chuckle out of that one.

[El KahunaGrande]

Marshal Faulk was well on his way before he left. Apparently you don't watch enough football to know names like Edgerrin James and Marvin Harrison, both going to the HoF. Wayne and Freeney have a definite shot, and our run isn't over


Your homer glasses really get in the way of intelligence, take em off before you post lol.

Faulk didn't have consideration before setting an all time single season TD record and winning a SB with the Rams, years after he left Indy.

Harrison MIGHT have a shot.. but.. ummm.. who does he play for now??

Edgerrin James? Reggie Wayne? Freeney? NOW who's wearing the homer glasses? Those guys aren't even close.

Like I said, go tout your great stats to a team that has a history, and not the 8 year old new franchise on the block. The Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers and Pats fans would laugh you off their boards.

If you want to compare to us, wait 52 years then we'll see how our franchise stacks up to yours up to this point in your history. By then you might have another whopping 2 SB trophies to add to your collection.

Just out of curiosity, what team were you a fan of before indianapolis inherited the Colts?

And why won't you discuss the teams history for the first 10-15 years they were there? That's the era we want to hear you talk about, Mr. NFL expert. Let's hear you put a good spin on that?

HAHAHAHA you guys had the overall first pick in 83 and your draft pick refused to play for such a sorry franchise. Demanding a trade, he went on to be a 2 time SB winner (that's as many as BOTH the Manning twins combined) and a hall of famer. Why don't we talk about this sort of Colts history?

How many SB wins did they have between 1972 and 2005? ZEROOOOOOOO

thats a long span, a helluva lot longer than 8 years.

I know you're only going to be posting here when we play the Colts, but when we dominate them you won't be anywhere near here. I can put up with you until then.

[korvac]

Well I'm not quite old enough to know much about them in Baltimore so you got me there, I'm crushed.

You are a moron if you think Harrison and James aren't getting into the HoF, but seeing the level of Talent you're used to in Houston both Oilers and Texans I can see how you wouldn't have much experience with it(they were brought up BTW, because someone was comparing them to a dallas team spanning a decade, so this whole decade for Indy would be relevant). Wayne and Freeney aren't there yet, but they are both young and on track to put up HoF numbers, so it's quite possible.

Why would you want to discuss the past, should we overlook the fact that Indy has been better than you since the Texans inception? What Indy did 20 years ago, or even last year for that matter means nothing. Right now we are 2.5 games up on ya, so we're better right now.

I know you got little brother syndrome, and are extremely jealous that the big bad colts won't allow you your moment of glory, get over it. Someday you'll earn it. Is it possible it could be this year, sure, but not likely. We're statistically better than you in almost every conceivable way, we'll see how it shakes down on the field.

Talking up your greatest moments and only comparing them to Indy's worst moments is ignorance. Your losses happened, they don't just go away because you wish they would. We'll lose a couple this season I'm sure, but we've already got a pretty big jump on you, so you guys best be playing lights out the entire rest of the season(not just half the time) if you wanna compete for that top spot, we won't hand it to you for nothing.

[thunderkyss]

I know exactly what my team is. They aren't a dynasty, but they are a champion in this decade at least once, where's yours?Break out the "If you guys didn't have great players, you would suck" comment you used before, I still get a chuckle out of that one.

Still gonna kick your ***

[korvac]

Oh I gotcha, you think success is linear, it's not. There's an ebb and flow, 10 years in the past or future doesn't matter in football, you don't get to the top and then stay there, eventually you fall off. Right now we're on top, there's no denying that, it's fact.

But since we're on the subject about how far you texans have come since they started, Jax and carolina both made conference championships in less time than it's taken you to even compete for a playoff spot. Just figured I'd throw that out there since you like to compare the colts to dynasties maybe you'd compare the texans to other expansion teams.

I didn't come here for trash talk, but several of you just had to hate on a colts fan, so I guess we'll have some fun with it. What else you got, keep on comin with why the colts suck even though they are above you, it's really fun to poke all the holes through your flawed logic.

[korvac]

Who cares what the Jags do? They won't have a franchise much longer. I respect Carolina's franchise.
You guys keep comparing Colts to other teams like dallas and NE, so it's only fair to compare the Texans to other teams like Jax and Carolina

You did nothing for practically 30 years and are only experiencing good times because of your QB situation. Look at the 'juggernaut' or 'one-dimensional' teams that have lost their QBs over the years...NE of last year, Oakland when they lost Rich Gannon...or look what happened when Joe Flacco went to Baltimore.
Are you a moron? OF COURSE that's why we're good. Thats what teams do, they get good players and they get better, you sure you know how sports work right?

Houston, on the other hand, has a good solid core. Even when Rosencopter played last year we were fairly competitive and on the way up.
Lol, on the way up from what? The absolute basement? Sure I'll give you that, but you still weren't even a wildcard team.

And you're not on top, NO is far and away better than the Colts this year.
On top when compared to the Texans, with room to spare, NO/Ind is debateable as neither team has lost

It seems the only flawed logic is coming from you.
You still haven't pointed out 1 reason it's flawed

You aren't a dynasty or a 'juggernaut'. You are a team that consistently uses their energy to hit the playoffs and then falters.
Yep, I never claimed to be a dynasty or juggernaught, just a very good team, which we are. Pretty consistant on being better than the Texans your right

The only time you were any different was when you won the SB...your team was passionate, desperate, and ferocious. Everything the Colts aren't anymore.
That's all opinion through homer glasses. The Texans must be getting there though, cuz yall sure have the desperate part down solid


Any more pearls of wisdom? Are you even as old as the Texans franchise? Never got into the whole trash talking thing before, but you're making this fun.

[Rett]

Korvak, each of you have valid points. The Colts did suck in the first 10 years in indy, but they don't now. We aren't but on our 8th years right now and it takes times.

On the Corolina and Jacksonville teams, they had an advantage we didn't enjoy. When they came into the league they were allowed to take good players from all the other teams which wasn't allowed when we came in so we were at a disavantage there.

I have no problem with the colts, just compare things correctly. We are a young organization, y'all are an old one. We are improving in leaps and bound and may soon overtake you, or maybe not, but it still should be a good game. That's all that really matters.

[korvac]

My point was that the age of the franchise is irrelevant, teams can go from top to bottom and vice versa in 1 year in this league. Yes we were horrible 20 years ago, and probably will be horrible 20 years from now, but right now we're not, we're an excellent team. Your fans seem to disregard what we are right now, either because we weren't 20 years ago or because we wouldn't be without PMoney, but neither point is relevant to the discussion. They should be discussing this years Texans vs this years Colts, not this years Texans vs the Colts of 1984, wtf is the point in that? Whatever makes them feel good I guess.

[thunderkyss]

They should be discussing this years Texans vs this years Colts, not this years Texans vs the Colts of 1984, wtf is the point in that? Whatever makes them feel good I guess.

This years Texans will Kick this years Colts' this years *****

[Colts4thewin]

So I take it mydaughters2 and houston2 are your guys' 2 *********s, and the rest of you are actual football fans. Is it something about the number 2?

Well, they are in 2nd place. Behind us, of course.

[Colts4thewin]

The same way that some person feels the need to mock the Texans success this season. I am sure you could explain why someone would discredit a team or players. :rolleyes:

Quite frankly, I don't feel the need to mock the Texans at all. I only bothered to register on the MB because we face you guys twice in quick succession. At its core, this discussion is about who will win Sunday's game. I of course think (and hope and pray) that my Colts will triumph, and I completely understand you guys rooting for the upset. Make no mistake, I plan on talking smack for the next couple weeks, but I respect any nfl team that is forced to contend with what even you guys say is a HOF quarterback. The niners are so proud of their defensive effort against us that you'd almost think it was a win. I get that going up against Manning/Brady/Brees must suck for any opposing team. I wish us both an injury free game, but I of course hope you lose. :)

[theanswer000]

Well even living in the present, we are 7-0. You want us to overlook the first couple of games of your season, yet you seem to focus on our 1 or 2 less than stellar performances, which we still won I might add. You guys really want us to give you credit yet you guys seem to not want to give us any.

Do not listen to a lot of these guys. A lot of Texan fans are ignorant and cannot realize they are being complimented when it is happening. I get exactly what you mean when you say we are building ourselves like the Colts. The Colts are an elite team and are always a shoo in when people are talking about the playoffs. Hopefully a really good Texans team shows up this Sunday and makes it a really good game to watch.

[jkeener71]

Schein Pics - Video Style - Showing love for "HIS" Texans.

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=d5f9e52c-d536-42aa-84e9-1827d24b4a80

[El KahunaGrande]

Right now we're on top, there's no denying that, it's fact.
But since we're on the subject about how far you texans have come since they started, Jax and carolina both made conference championships in less time than it's taken you to even compete for a playoff spot. Just figured I'd throw that out there since you like to compare the colts to dynasties maybe you'd compare the texans to other expansion teams.

1. You're not on top. The top team wins the super bowl. Your team didn't. That was 3 years ago. Stop living in the past.

2 A more relative comparison would be to the new Browns. However, even since then, the league made several changes in the way expansion teams built their initial rosters. The Jags and the Panthers had an unfair advantage with extra draft picks etc. to make them competetive sooner, and the league recognized that and made rule changes concerning expansion teams. If you would have built a team from scratch instead of harboring another city's runaways, you would know that.

My point was that the age of the franchise is irrelevant, teams can go from top to bottom and vice versa in 1 year in this league. Yes we were horrible 20 years ago, and probably will be horrible 20 years from now, but right now we're not, we're an excellent team. Your fans seem to disregard what we are right now, either because we weren't 20 years ago or because we wouldn't be without PMoney, but neither point is relevant to the discussion. They should be discussing this years Texans vs this years Colts, not this years Texans vs the Colts of 1984, wtf is the point in that? Whatever makes them feel good I guess.

The point is, that someone came in here touting how good the Colt's record has been over the past 10 years etc etc etc. We didn't start that topic. You guys did. Therefore, it's only fair that if you want to talk about the past, let's talk about the entire past and not just your good years. You aren't bragging about those years are you? And age of the franchise makes all the difference in the world. When you have 60 years to try and win a SB, you'll have more success than a team who has only had 7 years to do so.

It was in their post that they brought up the 70s cowboys, comparing the modern era colts to them. It's not even close. They don't stack up to ANY of the truly great NFL franchises.

Like I said, we're 8 years old. Go talk about your dominant franchise to the teams that regularly beat you in the playoffs. When you do, send us the link so we can get a laugh when they put you in your place.

Talk about "little brother syndrome". lol. Your team is the second smallest brother picking on the smallest, because you can't pick on anyone else. Little brothers grow up. Sometimes bigger than you. You won't be around when your team sucks. We've been here since day one, suck or not. That's the difference between us and you guys.

Again, you never answered the question. What team were you a fan of before the Colts bailed on Baltimore? And what team will you be a fan of after they leave Indy?

[Colts4thewin]

1. You're not on top. The top team wins the super bowl. Your team didn't. That was 3 years ago. Stop living in the past.

2 A more relative comparison would be to the new Browns. However, even since then, the league made several changes in the way expansion teams built their initial rosters. The Jags and the Panthers had an unfair advantage with extra draft picks etc. to make them competetive sooner, and the league recognized that and made rule changes concerning expansion teams. If you would have built a team from scratch instead of harboring another city's runaways, you would know that.



The point is, that someone came in here touting how good the Colt's record has been over the past 10 years etc etc etc. We didn't start that topic. You guys did. Therefore, it's only fair that if you want to talk about the past, let's talk about the entire past and not just your good years. You aren't bragging about those years are you? And age of the franchise makes all the difference in the world. When you have 60 years to try and win a SB, you'll have more success than a team who has only had 7 years to do so.

It was in their post that they brought up the 70s cowboys, comparing the modern era colts to them. It's not even close. They don't stack up to ANY of the truly great NFL franchises.

Like I said, we're 8 years old. Go talk about your dominant franchise to the teams that regularly beat you in the playoffs. When you do, send us the link so we can get a laugh when they put you in your place.

Talk about "little brother syndrome". lol. Your team is the second smallest brother picking on the smallest, because you can't pick on anyone else. Little brothers grow up. Sometimes bigger than you. You won't be around when your team sucks. We've been here since day one, suck or not. That's the difference between us and you guys.

Again, you never answered the question. What team were you a fan of before the Colts bailed on Baltimore? And what team will you be a fan of after they leave Indy?

I'll answer the question. I was 11 in 1984. I didn't have a team. I liked the Dallas Cowboys like everybody else, mostly because of the cheerleaders. And in the broader sense, this rivalry of ours will probably continue for the next 100 years or so because we're conference foes. But you don't expect me to speculate on the next 100 years, do you? Of course not. Not only has it not happened yet, but it's irrelevant to what happens THIS Sunday. Conversely, don't pin what the Colts ownership did 25 years ago on my shoulders. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CURRENT COLTS! And you don't think I'll be a fan when the Colts suck? My friend, I think about the 4 to 7 years Peyton has left every GD day. It keeps me up at night. Well, that and the fact that I work 3rd shift, but still...

[Se7en]

Quite frankly, I don't feel the need to mock the Texans at all.

The "someone" I was refering to is quoted in my post. ;)

[LM_Baller]

Arguing in this thread is like booing at the Special Olympics.


Oh, and for the dude who used "engulfing", you might want to look that up. It's nuanced, to be sure, but it still doesn't apply.

A tide can engulf a beach.

A fire can engulf a house.

A poster here cannot engulf koolaide.

Just sayin...

[Texaholic]

The same way that some person feels the need to mock the Texans success this season. I am sure you could explain why someone would discredit a team or players. :rolleyes:

Ok fine, have it your way, everyone that doesnt see things EXACTLY like you isnt a fan.

Your way is the only true way to be a fan. Only by overlooking reality and accepting faliure can anyone attain the level of true fandom that you have.

Mid season success is just a good as actual success, making light of "drinking the kool-aid" is really cool, nothing like referencing mass suicide to show your loyalty to a footbal team. And yes thats where the kool-aid reference comes from whether you know it or not.

[Se7en]

Oh I gotcha, you think success is linear, it's not. There's an ebb and flow, 10 years in the past or future doesn't matter in football, you don't get to the top and then stay there, eventually you fall off. Right now we're on top, there's no denying that, it's fact.

You were not the top team lasts easona nd you are not the top team this season. You are just being a homer now with these types of comments. :rolleyes:

[Se7en]

Ok fine, have it your way, everyone that doesnt see things EXACTLY like you isnt a fan.

Where did I say that? Please quote it for me. Heck, where did I even use the word "fan" in my post? :D:rolleyes::D

making light of "drinking the kool-aid" is really cool, nothing like referencing mass suicide to show your loyalty to a footbal team.

Did you just start watching professional sports?

[LM_Baller]

You were not the top team lasts easona nd you are not the top team this season. You are just being a homer now with these types of comments. :rolleyes:


He meant tops in the division. Are you being intentionally obtuse, or are you just dense? Jeezy creezy someone turn on a light and open some windows around here.

[jkeener71]

Ok fine, have it your way, everyone that doesnt see things EXACTLY like you isnt a fan.

Your way is the only true way to be a fan. Only by overlooking reality and accepting faliure can anyone attain the level of true fandom that you have.

Mid season success is just a good as actual success, making light of "drinking the kool-aid" is really cool, nothing like referencing mass suicide to show your loyalty to a footbal team. And yes thats where the kool-aid reference comes from whether you know it or not.

I like Kool-Aid. Especially if its spiked! :)

Now if its gonna kill me, um I'll pass, and drink some Tang instead LOL! :D

[korvac]

What part of 7-0 tied for best record in the league and 2.5 games above everyone in our division is means we are not on top? You may not like the idea but it's kinda hard to say an unbeaten team is not on top, especially in this division.

And I think I answered the baltimore question already, I was too young to even remember football back then, think I started watching in 86 or so, really got into it in 89 and at the time was rooting for my colts int he afc which weren't very good(so I know where you texan fans are coming from) and was on the niners bandwagon(I was young and kids love bandwagons).

[LM_Baller]

/wonders how old Texaholic was in 1978.

[Se7en]

He meant tops in the division. Are you being intentionally obtuse, or are you just dense? Jeezy creezy someone turn on a light and open some windows around here.

So they are 7-0 and we are supposed to be impressed? I still read it as him saying he is on top of the league, because who would brag about being the top of 4 teams? Right now the Saints are the team to beat in the league, not the Colts.

Last season the Titans were "on top."

[LM_Baller]

So they are 7-0 and we are supposed to be impressed? I still read it as him saying he is on top of the league, because who would brag about being the top of 4 teams? Right now the Saints are the team to beat in the league, not the Colts.

Last season the Titans were "on top."


Yes, you should be impressed. They are one of the two top teams in this league, and are running away with our division. Whether you like it or not, those are facts. If the Texans line up and beat them, that will be an accomplishment because we are underdogs for a reason.

Can any team win on any given Sunday? Sure.

But when a guy with a Bugatti stops beside you at a red light, don't hate on him for loving his car. Just floor your Datsun and see if you can beat him. Maybe he'll get a flat tire.

[Rett]

Top, bottom, side, who cares. As long as I get to watch the game!

[Rett]

Oh, just for the record, I think we will win, but it will be close. Also, just in case we don't, I'm cooking the crow myself. If I have to eat it I want is barbequed and stuffed with Jalpenos and serano peppers. It might as well have some kick to it because otherwise it isn't gonna go down very well. Then again, if we do win, they are gonna cry from something beside the loss!

[jkeener71]

We only serve Crow, we don't eat it, at least not anymore, hopefully. :)

[Tuxicon]

So they are 7-0 and we are supposed to be impressed? I still read it as him saying he is on top of the league, because who would brag about being the top of 4 teams? Right now the Saints are the team to beat in the league, not the Colts.

Last season the Titans were "on top."

If someone can not be impressed with 7-0, then what does it take? The saints are the team to beat? Hmmmmm, last time I checked, the records are the same.

Want to see impressive? Read on:

The Colts are owners of the NFL’s best regular-season record (121-46) since the start of the 1999 season, while being the only team to earn nine playoff appearances in the last 10 seasons, including a league-best seven consecutive post-season berths. Indianapolis has won 66 of its last 80 regular-season games. Indianapolis’ winning ways include a 34-10 record in AFC South play, while the club has owned or shared the lead in 102 of 126 weeks of the division’s existence. The Colts won five AFC South championships from 2003-07, the best divisional-title streak in club history. Indianapolis is the only NFL team to have double-digit victory totals and playoff appearances each season since the 2002 NFL Realignment. In 2008, Indianapolis produced its seventh consecutive 10+-victory season, tying the second-longest streak in NFL history (16, San Francisco, 1983-98; 7, Dallas, 1975-81).


When the texans even make the playoffs, then come talk to me.

[Wildbill703]

Sure you have done well in the past, but for many of those years you were getting to play some pretty bad teams. How hard is it to go over .500 when you get at least 4 wins automatically. For many of those years the Colts were the only good team in the division.

Would you like to compare yourselves to the Pats or the Steelers since we are talking about good teams of the past.:D

[korvac]

Weren't they chewing up on cupcakes like the dolphins bills jets browns and bungles? Not hard to get lots of wins for them either. In the playoffs though you got us, we've only won 1 superbowl, not a dynasty by any means but it's still 1 more than the majority of the NFL in the last 10 years.

[Tuxicon]

Texans fans don't see their own shortcomings, just everyone elses. They are perfect, We are not. I really hope the colts whoop that butt so bad, that your team NEVER recovers. Some of you are the most idiotic posters I've ever seen in my life.

I will be back to see the "fire kubiak" and all the rest of the doomsday posts. It will be truly funny.

[Se7en]

Texans fans don't see their own shortcomings, just everyone elses. They are perfect, We are not.

You clearly have never been here before. Go scroll back through a few weeks of posts, this place is not flowers and sunshine and the fire Kubiak threads have already been posted many times this seaosn from people who are not all that plugged in to the game.

If we lose on Sunday your team will not be the one that has all the knee jerkers freaking out again... they are just waiting for a reason to post about how horrible we are again.

Should be a moot point on Sunday though, since we are capable of winning.

[Cushing56]

Yes, you should be impressed. They are one of the two top teams in this league, and are running away with our division. Whether you like it or not, those are facts. If the Texans line up and beat them, that will be an accomplishment because we are underdogs for a reason.

Can any team win on any given Sunday? Sure.

But when a guy with a Bugatti stops beside you at a red light, don't hate on him for loving his car. Just floor your Datsun and see if you can beat him. Maybe he'll get a flat tire.

Quote of the year lmao

Seriously though, some people on this board need to slow down on the kool aid... Yes we are playing well, but to think we are going to own the Colts easily is just flat out crazy. We have only played 1 game where the team pulled it together for a whole 60 mins. If we have a slow 1/2, Peyton is going to have a field day. Idc If he wasn't on his A game last week, he will come back strong. I'm hoping and will be cheering for a Texans win, but its going to be a tough game. We can't have any turnovers or its going to be a long day. Hopefully Moats can be productive again this week, and that Dressen can fill in for Owen and make some plays! /end rant

GO TEXANS :cool:

[korvac]

In a league where teams can go from the basement to the playoffs in 1 year, using the "we're a young franchise" is a very weak argument. How long do you plan on holding on to it? This isn't for most Texans fans, just this schaub guy that seems to think tenure in the league has some kind of impact on success.

[korvac]

So your 2 trump cards are that your team is young and somehow they have to hit puberty before they can be good, and a playoff reference when your team has never made it there? Good trump cards lol.

[korvac]

So we lost to a team that is inferior to you after beating you. What kind of logic circle are you trying to make? Are you really dense or just retarded?

[korvac]

See, my only real point in bringing up last year is to prove that you overrated and probably the 5th best team in the NFL as of right now.

The only team that's good you played was Jekyll/Hyde Arizona. I mean, they lost to Carolina. Not *that* good.

You are the same team you were last year, an overrated, weak scheduled team with little to brag about other than 'season records'.

Well we are tied for the best record in football, so there's no evidence that anyone is better than us yet. We played a bad arizona team that beat you lol. And your schedule is just as weak yet you managed to lose 3 of em. You are really bad at this.

[jkeener71]

Grabs popcorn and enjoys the smackfest. :D

[korvac]

So we're only going to count the games that you play well in? That's not how the NFL works. Do the rest of you Texans fans really claim this guy? I've seen several of you that have good sound logic even when taking the Texans over the Colts this week, but this guy should be embarrassing you lol.

[korvac]

Nope I saw it, you just happen to be using only the last 4 games to completely distance yourself from a couple of losses. Opponent records don't mean squat, the only thing that matters is your record.

[jamielily]

Im Thirsty....


Texans with the upset of the week.. imo

all i have to say is a close win...

sip! sip!

[korvac]

I only bring those up because you constantly bring up the fact that the colts haven't beaten anyone special. It's a dumb argument for you to use when 2 of those teams the colts beat have a W against you. Just try and use smack talk that don't have so many holes in it. Right now only 2 records count and it doesn't matter how or why they got here, that's our 7-0 and your 5-3.

[Se7en]

I only bring those up because you constantly bring up the fact that the colts haven't beaten anyone special. It's a dumb argument for you to use when 2 of those teams the colts beat have a W against you. Just try and use smack talk that don't have so many holes in it. Right now only 2 records count and it doesn't matter how or why they got here, that's our 7-0 and your 5-3.

We have to keep coming at you guys with more and more info because you guys cannot accept that we think our team is on the same level as the Colts. We think we will show up and compete and it will be an awesome game.

The attitude I am getting from Colts fans is that they cannot lose and we should bow to their power... that "IMHO" is what is silly in all of this.

[korvac]

Wow, theres no chance the bills beat us. You guys are 10 times the team they are and have first shot at it. And considering you play us twice I'd say you have the best chance of anyone in the league.

There's one dunno how to multi-quote so I'll go find some more.

[korvac]

Here's some more, easier for me to copy past

Every week people bring up a "soft schedule" as a reason their team will win. Every week they come up short. I agree the texans are an excellent team and have a real shot-that one is from the texans vs colts predictions thread

This game is going to be like 2 mirror images going at it. Should be the most entertaining game-from this thread

Your team talent wise is very similar to the colts, and play a similar game-again this thread

I've given credit to the Texans the entire time, they are a good team. You just don't like me pouring water through all the holes in your fantasyland where the colts apparently suck.

[palmwad89]

If we play 60 minutes of football against the Colts we will beat them. Acouple of Cushing and Mario sacks will make manning get a little jittery. Go Texans

[Se7en]

Here's some more, easier for me to copy past

Every week people bring up a "soft schedule" as a reason their team will win. Every week they come up short. I agree the texans are an exellent team and have a real shot-that one is from the texans vs colts predictions thread

This game is going to be like 2 mirror images going at it. Should be the most entertaining game-from this thread

Your team talent wise is very similar to the colts, and play a similar game-again this thread

I've given credit to the Texans the entire time, they are a good team. You just don't like me pouring water through all the holes in your fantasyland where the colts apparently suck.

You gave us credit. You then turned around and said that we were having success because we were modeling ourselves after YOUR team. The arrogant attitude is what got you on the bad side with a number of posters.

If you had simply started out with the stance that we had improved and not made it about your team, then you wouldn't have seen as much resistance to your posts.

It all started with the, you wanna be like us attitude.

[korvac]

Talk about hypersensitive. You guys are built alot like the colts, it's no secret, and you're starting to win with that build. Your success obviously is not due to the Colts, it's just an observation that you win in a very similar way and with similar tools that we do. Jesus do you see every team that uses the west coast offense getting all offended because the Bill walsh and the niners created it? You were just lookin for a reason to hate on a Colts fan, and found a pretty weak reason.

[Se7en]

Talk about hypersensitive. You guys are built alot like the colts, it's no secret, and you're starting to win with that build.

So your offense was built to model what Kubes was running in Denver then? I did not realize you guys even ran a zone blocking system. Or are you simply saying that we pass the ball well now so we are trying to be like you?

If you think we are modeling ourselves like another offensive team we are closer to the Saints with their zone system than we are to the Colts. I think you are seeing us have success passing the ball and assume that Colts wrote the book on that or something.

I will repeat it one more time just incase 2 times did not cover it. Our offense is not trying to play like the Colts, we are running the exact same system that Kubes and Old Shanny got their Superbowl rings with in Denver.

To be fair I think Dungy did a good job modeling his team after the success of pass heavy offensive teams like Denver.

[korvac]

And denver offense was based off what Bill Walsh did, yadda yadda yadda and we all wanna be like the 80's 49ers. Should just about sum it up. Just don't be so hypersensitive when I make comparisons of your team to one of the best offensive teams out there, that's usually a good thing. Definitely not something to go all Texas chainsaw massacre on me about lol.

[protoTexans]

And denver offense was based off what Bill Walsh did, yadda yadda yadda and we all wanna be like the 80's 49ers. Should just about sum it up. Just don't be so hypersensitive when I make comparisons of your team to one of the best offensive teams out there, that's usually a good thing. Definitely not something to go all Texas chainsaw massacre on me about lol.


Talk about a BIG Head.... & Here I thought Peyton was the only one with a Big Head in Indy... Settle down Dr Korvacian, take a chill pill & lets just take this too the feild on Sunday. May the Best Team Win.... Be back around 3:15....

GO TEXANS Chainsaws!!!

Texans 27
Colts 17

[Se7en]

And denver offense was based off what Bill Walsh did, yadda yadda yadda and we all wanna be like the 80's 49ers. Should just about sum it up.

No that is not what you said, you said we are trying to be like the Colts with our offense which would take credit away from what Kubiak is doing. We do not run a pure west coast system, but a mix that Kubes used in Denver. Thus, it is a system he already used and brought with him... so we are not trying to be like your wonderful team up there in Indy simply because they won a few games.

On the other hand there are a number of teams that study up on Kubes offense to tweak their own schemes and improve their offensive production. If anything people are trying to learn from Kubes... not from your rookie coach that is benefiting from Dungy's leftovers atm.

My guess is all that you meant was our offense looks SIMILAR to what you are used to watching in Indy, I woudl ahve been fine with that becaus eit would be positive thing. Instead you worded it like we want to be the Houston Colts.

[thunderkyss]

No that is not what you said, you said we are trying to be like the Colts with our offense which would take credit away from what Kubiak is doing. We do not run a pure west coast system, but a mix that Kubes used in Denver. Thus, it is a system he already used and brought with him... so we are not trying to be like your wonderful team up there in Indy simply because they won a few games.


The Colts offense is very similar to what was done in Denver, St Louis, & San Francisco.

What we are doing is very similar to what was done in Denver, St Louis, & San Francisco.

A few differences to take maximize the talent... but all very similar, including the way we run the ball.

Seattle is also a very similar team...... other than they suck, what they are trying to do is very similar.

[korvac]

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I'm accustomed to watching a quarterback make quick decisions, not waiting 6-7 seconds hoping for a break in coverage, and throwing the ball to 1 dominant receiver and a TE/WR hybrid while using the pass to open up the run. Your O-line isn't going to overpower and blow people off the line on most days, much like ours. Wayne and Johnson seem to use similar routes to get open, as do Clark and Daniels. You guys aren't using the pound the ball for 60 minutes and hope the defense gets tired strategy that tennessee and Jax have been trying, and more often than not failing, to win with. Was more of a statement regarding the Indy/Houston style of play vs the Ten/Jax style of play, and which one seems to be the more successful of the 2. More specifically it wasn't a "you wanna be like us" post, it was a "you're using the same general offensive mentality and tools that we use in Indy to be successful" post, not a specific scheme oriented statement.

P.S.- Although I do truly think that everyone should want to be a new version of those 80's 49ers, that was a monster offense that had a major impact on almost every offense run today.

[Se7en]

More specifically it wasn't a "you wanna be like us" post, it was a "you're using the same general offensive mentality and tools that we use in Indy to be successful" post, not a specific scheme oriented statement.

I see what you just said as a mark that we have improved a lot since the fetal mittens Carr days. Can you see how that is a lot less arrogant the way you typed it this last time?

[Se7en]

Seattle is also a very similar team...... other than they suck, what they are trying to do is very similar.

Denver is no longer in that classification now that they axed Cutler and Shanny. As coaches move hrough the league they tend to take their systems a long. I find it interesting watching how coaches went through San Fran and the west coast style spread to places like Green Bay.

[StarEyedBull]

Forget all this talk. I'm just ready to see Cushing and Mario lay some hurt on Oreo-boy.

[korvac]

I see what you just said as a mark that we have improved a lot since the fetal mittens Carr days. Can you see how that is a lot less arrogant the way you typed it this last time?

To generalize it more. If a rams fan came on our boards and said we were building ourselves similar to them and not pittsburgh, I would have taken that to mean he appreciates our mentality of using passing offense and speed defense rather than power defense and the running game. I wouldn't have read much more into it knowing full well our offense schemewise is completely different than the Rams.

So perhaps I worded it wrong in your eyes but I really didn't expect you to think I was crediting your success to have anything to do with the Colts. I'm really not as arrogant as you think, perhaps your dislike of my team has you preprogrammed to expect that from me, but at least IMHO(sorry had to do it) I'm pretty fair.

[jkeener71]

Forget all this talk. I'm just ready to see Cushing and Mario lay some hurt on Oreo-boy.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10325572/NFL-ON-FOX:-5-Questions-with-Charles-Davis

Are the Texans a true challenger to the Colts in the AFC South? Are they finally a playoff team?

To me, the Texans are definitely a challenger in the South. But I have one caveat. If they split with the Colts, whom they play twice this month, then I'm jumping fully on their bandwagon and saying they are going to make the playoffs.

I mean, how many times do we pick them in training camp because of the late runs they make at the end of the previous seasons? But the late runs have always come after they are out of it.

This year they are in it with a 5-3 record and Matt Schaub is playing really, really well. Obviously, Andre Johnson is a monster. Maybe they have figured out their running game with Ryan Moats. Has he really jumped ahead of Steve Slaton? One key for them will be figuring how out to remain a consistent offense without tight end Owen Daniels, who's out for the rest of the season.

I know Mario Williams has been playing hurt all year long, and if they could ever get him healthy, that would be a big deal. Rookie linebacker Brian Cushing has really helped DeMeco Ryans. I think they are definitely a contender, but what would solidify it for me is if they can beat the Colts. Just split with them and that will show the rest of the league that you are really there.

[jkeener71]

Just watching NFL Total Access and Rod Woodson picked his Upset Special: Texans to beat Colts.

Also they asked which player being down hurts their team most, Bob Sanders or Owen Daniels, they all said OD.

[txnsfan92]

I don't post much on these boards but I read them every day. I want to say this one thing and then be done.....

WE DOMINATED INDY LAST YEAR before whirlybird took off. If we stick to the same scheme we played against them last year, with the better team and technique we are playing with this year.....WE WILL DOMINATE THE COLTS AGAIN THIS YEAR!

You have to be scared in Indy when you think about that.....I was up at 5:30 this Saturday morning because I can't wait for the Texans to pop the AFC South, NFL Network, BSPN and all the other people around these great states in the mouth with our WIN on Sunday.....

[InterestedJeff]

Wayne and Johnson seem to use similar routes to get open.

Wayne shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as Johnson....

[LaserRocketArm]

Wayne shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as Johnson....

Really?

Even though he has more yards per game and TDs than Johnson this year?

(And before Texans fans get all pissed, Andre Johnson IS the better receiver, but it's just laughauble that Wayne "shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as Johnson")

[Tuxicon]

Wayne shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as Johnson....

Listen, I realize johnson is a great player but to say reggie is not in the same class is ridiculous. Did someone send in the clowns?

[Schlauton]

Listen, I realize johnson is a great player but to say reggie is not in the same class is ridiculous. Did someone send in the clowns?
YEah, Reggie and Johnson are in the same class, but Johnson is better.

[Tuxicon]

YEah, Reggie and Johnson are in the same class, but Johnson is better.

Too bad that's not going to matter at the end of the year, when the texans are watching the playoffs on tv.

[Schlauton]

Too bad that's not going to matter at the end of the year, when the texans are watching the playoffs on tv.

So you admit Andre is better.

Anyways, we can make the playoffs, if we can get at least 10-6 with certain people losing than we can make the playoffs, so don't count us out yet.

[Tuxicon]

So you admit Andre is better.

Anyways, we can make the playoffs, if we can get at least 10-6 with certain people losing than we can make the playoffs, so don't count us out yet.

So basically, if you lose tomorrow, you can only afford 2 more losses the rest of the way to still have a "chance". Good luck with that, you'll need it.

[mbarton2010]

Too bad that's not going to matter at the end of the year, when the texans are watching the playoffs on tv.

WOW... you really are a dummy. The texans will beat the colts both times and maybe lose 1 more game this year. i see The Texans or Colts being in the Super bowl.. Hopefully The TEXANS!!!

[ColtinIraq]

Also Peyton is a choke artist just like his cry baby brother Eli, he coud never win the big one with Tennessee ! And as for this year he not going to win the Super bowl, Saints would get that before him......Peyton's glory days in the AFC south are numbered.....the 1998 draft is 11 years old and so is Peyton & the Colts........

LOL - do you write for Leno?

[protoTexans]

So basically, if you lose tomorrow, you can only afford 2 more losses the rest of the way to still have a "chance". Good luck with that, you'll need it.

So basically if we Kick the Colts a ss all over the field tomorrow & sweep 'em here in a few weeks it will be a toss up on whom is watching the playoffs from home or not Bud... :cool:

[protoTexans]

Really?

Even though he has more yards per game and TDs than Johnson this year?

(And before Texans fans get all pissed, Andre Johnson IS the better receiver, but it's just laughauble that Wayne "shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as Johnson")

It is true, But they each deserve thier OWN Breath.... lol...

[ColtinIraq]

wow...you sound just like a cowgirl fan....let me give you a piece of advice...QUIT LIVING IN THE PAST....how long ago was that??? How about you look at how yall have performed of late...especially that 49'ers game...I mean c'mon...your running back throws more TD's than your qb...(that last comment was just ribbing at you....manning's actually a helluva qb but think our team has a hell of a chance come sunday....to bad its not on a neutral field)

You mean 7-0? I'll take that for lately.

[JasonKayne]

So basically, if you lose tomorrow, you can only afford 2 more losses the rest of the way to still have a "chance". Good luck with that, you'll need it.

Agreed, we'll need it. But that's what happens when you dig yourself a 3 game hole to start the season. It's doable, but only if the Texans are really as good as we presently think (or have deluded ourselves into thinking) they are. Just trying to keep the dream alive, bro.

[JasonKayne]

Talk about hypersensitive. You guys are built alot like the colts, it's no secret, and you're starting to win with that build. Your success obviously is not due to the Colts, it's just an observation that you win in a very similar way and with similar tools that we do. Jesus do you see every team that uses the west coast offense getting all offended because the Bill walsh and the niners created it? You were just lookin for a reason to hate on a Colts fan, and found a pretty weak reason.

You know, I usually visit the Colts board in the days leading up to our games and I've noticed this year they also seem to be a little more thin-skinned over there as well, somehow finding a way to spin almost any comment into a percieved insult.

[Whiskeyrbl]

You know, I usually visit the Colts board in the days leading up to our games and I've noticed this year they also seem to be a little more thin-skinned over there as well, somehow finding a way to spin almost any comment into a percieved insult.

It's probably because they realize that the Texans actually have a legitimate shot at beating them. And they will live in the past about the 1-13 record and all that till we do something about it. Well tomorrow is as good a time as any to start the new trend.

[korvac]

Well it's true that Colts fans have worries, but none of em have anything to do with the Texans. If you can prove to be an actual threat to the division then maybe we'll start worrying about you too. Even that will take quite a bit more than 1 loss to you.

[protoTexans]

Well it's true that Colts fans have worries, but none of em have anything to do with the Texans. If you can prove to be an actual threat to the division then maybe we'll start worrying about you too. Even that will take quite a bit more than 1 loss to you.

Can't wait to SWEEP Ur as ses this season... High & Mighty MFs, U are going down... Gloves off KMA USB!!!! :cool:

[korvac]

Can't wait to SWEEP Ur as ses this season... High & Mighty MFs, U are going down... Gloves off KMA USB!!!! :cool:

/rawr /rawr /rawr

[ColtinIraq]

Faulk didn't have consideration before setting an all time single season TD record and winning a SB with the Rams, years after he left Indy.

Harrison MIGHT have a shot.. but.. ummm.. who does he play for now??

Edgerrin James? Reggie Wayne? Freeney? NOW who's wearing the homer glasses? Those guys aren't even close.

Like I said, go tout your great stats to a team that has a history, and not the 8 year old new franchise on the block. The Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers and Pats fans would laugh you off their boards.

If you want to compare to us, wait 52 years then we'll see how our franchise stacks up to yours up to this point in your history. By then you might have another whopping 2 SB trophies to add to your collection.

Just out of curiosity, what team were you a fan of before indianapolis inherited the Colts?

And why won't you discuss the teams history for the first 10-15 years they were there? That's the era we want to hear you talk about, Mr. NFL expert. Let's hear you put a good spin on that?

HAHAHAHA you guys had the overall first pick in 83 and your draft pick refused to play for such a sorry franchise. Demanding a trade, he went on to be a 2 time SB winner (that's as many as BOTH the Manning twins combined) and a hall of famer. Why don't we talk about this sort of Colts history?

How many SB wins did they have between 1972 and 2005? ZEROOOOOOOO

thats a long span, a helluva lot longer than 8 years.

I know you're only going to be posting here when we play the Colts, but when we dominate them you won't be anywhere near here. I can put up with you until then.

This could possibly be the dumbest post I've seen on any board any time. Just asking - were you born after the Texans came into existence?

[ColtinIraq]

Actually, to correct you, I said that if you didn't have Peyton you wouldn't be good.

And, we bring up the past to show you that we are much farther along as a franchise 8 years in then your beloved Colts. Who knows how the Texans will be in 30 years...potential juggernauts...who knows?

Kinda like if you didn't have Johnson huh?

[ColtinIraq]

2 A more relative comparison would be to the new Browns. However, even since then, the league made several changes in the way expansion teams built their initial rosters. The Jags and the Panthers had an unfair advantage with extra draft picks etc. to make them competetive sooner, and the league recognized that and made rule changes concerning expansion teams. If you would have built a team from scratch instead of harboring another city's runaways, you would know that.

OK, let's take another example - the Cowboys. They weren't even allowed in the draft their first year and played for the NFL Championship twice in their first 7 years.

Next.

[Whiskeyrbl]

OK, let's take another example - the Cowboys. They weren't even allowed in the draft their first year and played for the NFL Championship twice in their first 7 years.

Next.

Actually the Cowboys did not make the playoffs till year 7,1966, where they lost the championship game also lost the championship game in 1967. They also went 0-11-1 their first year. They had their first winning season in 1966 with a record of 10-3-1. In '67 they went 9-5 and made the playoffs. NEXT

[korvac]

You may have been trying to undo Coltiniraq's point, but in the process you also undid the original point, proving that teams have been successful and been in the playoffs in less time than the Texans. I'm not exactly sure why it matters but apparently it's a big issue with some Texan fans.

[Whiskeyrbl]

You may have been trying to undo Coltiniraq's point, but in the process you also undid the original point, proving that teams have been successful and been in the playoffs in less time than the Texans. I'm not exactly sure why it matters but apparently it's a big issue with some Texan fans.

Y'all seem to be the only ones making a big deal out of playoff appearences. And I will also point out that in the 60's there was no such thing as free agency. We happen to be building thru the draft and unfortunately thanks to Charlie Casserly and co. we had to start over in 2006. But my point to Coltiniraq was he comes on here running his mouth and not even knowing the facts he is trying to spew out. You tend to loose credibility when you talk out of the end you should be sitting on.

[korvac]

He wasn't the one that brought up how the Texans have been so good despite only being in the league 8 years, I think it was ThaSchaub. It's an irrelevant point though, don't see how success can be attributed to tenure in the league at all. You're right about using facts though. If people are going to use numbers and dates it better be right or someones going to pick them apart, not that it hasn't happened hundreds of times already.

[ColtinIraq]

Actually the Cowboys did not make the playoffs till year 7,1966, where they lost the championship game also lost the championship game in 1967. They also went 0-11-1 their first year. They had their first winning season in 1966 with a record of 10-3-1. In '67 they went 9-5 and made the playoffs. NEXT

OK, so I was off a year. The point is they played for the Championship twice in the same amount of time the Texans have been in the league and a worse situation entering the league than the Texans did. I didn't know this would be difficult to grasp but I guess it was.

Next.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Y'all seem to be the only ones making a big deal out of playoff appearences. And I will also point out that in the 60's there was no such thing as free agency. We happen to be building thru the draft and unfortunately thanks to Charlie Casserly and co. we had to start over in 2006. But my point to Coltiniraq was he comes on here running his mouth and not even knowing the facts he is trying to spew out. You tend to loose credibility when you talk out of the end you should be sitting on.

Exactly. They keep talkin' playoffs, sure we haven't been, but for how long they've been around and how consistently they go to the playoffs and how consistently they win the division and are how "superior" they are with the great one Manning, only 1 ring to show for it? Not very impressive imo.

[Whiskeyrbl]

It is not hard to grasp at all but it really makes me no difference what the Cowgirls did or will do. But I did enjoy pointing out that you were wrong. Our time will come. We had to wait 8 years so far, Well there are teams that waited many more years than that between playoffs. In the future if you want to point out facts at least do your homework.

[ColtinIraq]

It is not hard to grasp at all but it really makes me no difference what the Cowgirls did or will do. But I did enjoy pointing out that you were wrong. Our time will come. We had to wait 8 years so far, Well there are teams that waited many more years than that between playoffs. In the future if you want to point out facts at least do your homework.

Yes sir. That one year really shook NFL history. I'm so embarrassed by my error. The fact is, in eight years the Texans haven't even sniffed the playoffs. Might take them as long as it did the Astros to play in the big game.

[StarEyedBull]

Yes sir. That one year really shook NFL history. I'm so embarrassed by my error. The fact is, in eight years the Texans haven't even sniffed the playoffs. Might take them as long as it did the Astros to play in the big game.

Wow. With dumb talk like that, you seem more like a Cowgirls fan than a Colts backer.
Everyone wants to harp on eight years and no playoffs, blah, blah, blah... Like you are just able to snap your fingers and bring a new expansion team straight into the playoffs in the era of free agency within three seasons or so. :rolleyes:
Try something new, soldier.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Yes sir. That one year really shook NFL history. I'm so embarrassed by my error. The fact is, in eight years the Texans haven't even sniffed the playoffs. Might take them as long as it did the Astros to play in the big game.

Is that the best you got. I thought this was a smack talking thread not a biyatch thread.

[ColtinIraq]

Is that the best you got. I thought this was a smack talking thread not a biyatch thread.

Wow! Clever.

[Rett]

My view on another thread: Oh we're soooo good, no, we are soooo good! We're gonna kick your butts, no no, we're gonna kick yours. *LOL* Truth is, not a dang person, fan or player knows what is gonna happen on that field tomorrow. A perennial good team, the Colts , are gonna play an up and coming good team, the Texans, who have the best chance of beating them as anyone they have played this year so far, but no one knows who will come out on top. I hope we, the Texans , win this game, but more than anything else, I want to see a dang good, hard fought game where no one on either side gets injured. Round one starts tomorrow. Let's play ball!!!

[thunderkyss]

You know, I usually visit the Colts board in the days leading up to our games and I've noticed this year they also seem to be a little more thin-skinned over there as well, somehow finding a way to spin almost any comment into a percieved insult.

Well, you ain't talk'n "SMACK" if it can't be percieved as an insult.

[El KahunaGrande]

OK, let's take another example - the Cowboys. They weren't even allowed in the draft their first year and played for the NFL Championship twice in their first 7 years.

Next.

how many teams were in the NFL when the Cowboys started? 14?

next.

[ColtinIraq]

how many teams were in the NFL when the Cowboys started? 14?

next.

There were 13. God don't let whiskeybrl see that you were off by one. Makes him manic. And don't let the fact that 13 teams in the league yields far more talent per roster than today's NFL.

[Colts4thewin]

Oh, just for the record, I think we will win, but it will be close. Also, just in case we don't, I'm cooking the crow myself. If I have to eat it I want is barbequed and stuffed with Jalpenos and serano peppers. It might as well have some kick to it because otherwise it isn't gonna go down very well. Then again, if we do win, they are gonna cry from something beside the loss!

FYI
You lost. It was close. But you know what they say about close...

[theanswer000]

FYI
You lost. It was close. But you know what they say about close...

Hope you guys are still undefeated when you roll into Houston. Thats when your Colts are going to get a real Texas *** whooping.

[HOUSTON2]

I am heading out to home depot to find some good strong rope so I can hang myself after this loss......

[korvac]

excuses excuses, I thought Texans were tough guys and didn't have to play the blame game. Cowboy up son!!!

[Rett]

FYI
You lost. It was close. But you know what they say about close...

Yeah, it only counts in horse shoes, hand grenades and the back seat at the drive in.

[HOUSTON2]

FYI
You lost. It was close. But you know what they say about close...

Oh by the way don not get to excited you won two in a row by the skin of your cornhole...Tom Brady & Moss will be kicking the front door down when they come to town next week, also does your Rookie coach even breath or talk, he just stood there the whole game like a spectator......As far as Peyton Manning the Tenn. Vol choke artist, he will not get past the fit round of the playoffs.......

[korvac]

Lol, keep reaching guys. be careful though, you might break your arm.

[theanswer000]

Lol, keep reaching guys. be careful though, you might break your arm.

Lol we will see you in 3 weeks.

Hopefully we play eachother in the Wildcard. We would win that one also.

[Colts4thewin]

Oh by the way don not get to excited you won two in a row by the skin of your cornhole...Tom Brady & Moss will be kicking the front door down when they come to town next week, also does your Rookie coach even breath or talk, he just stood there the whole game like a spectator......As far as Peyton Manning the Tenn. Vol choke artist, he will not get past the fit round of the playoffs.......

So, let me get this straight, Texans fan. Your team lost and all you can come up with is how bad the Pats are going to beat us by? Really? Wow. Poor little fella. Hee Hee. Maybe the Pats will beat us. They are a really good team. So, what's that say about your team? Hmm, smartass?

[HOUSTON2]

[QUOTE=Colts4thewin;240573]So, let me get this straight, Texans fan. Your team lost and all you can come up with is how bad the Pats are going to beat us by? Really? Wow. Poor little fella. Hee Hee. Maybe the Pats will beat us. They are a really good team. So, what's that say about your team? Hmm, smartass?[/QUOTE

Sound like you areworried about the Pats ! well get worried about reliant stadium in a few weeks and here is another hard cold fact why does the NFL always schedule the Pats at your house, and not in New England, 4 years in a row, What's wrong Peyton afraid of the Cold & Snow.....now be a good little trick and go look up this true fact.....and get the Colts out of your cornhole.......

[korvac]

We played them 3 years in a row at Foxboro before that. Maybe you just started watching football so I'll forgive you lack of knowledge of the whole picture. And yes, we are worried about the Pats, they are a great team. They might actually beat us, and if they don't, I'm sure they'll skip the blame game and just look ahead to meeting us in the playoffs.

[theanswer000]

We played them 3 years in a row at Foxboro before that. Maybe you just started watching football so I'll forgive you lack of knowledge of the whole picture. And yes, we are worried about the Pats, they are a great team. They might actually beat us, and if they don't, I'm sure they'll skip the blame game and just look ahead to meeting us in the playoffs.

You mean us right?

[korvac]

They might play you int he first round. Then go on to meet us in the championship game, again. This is our year to tie the playoff series.

[korvac]

That's all that matters. There've been several playoff games we "should" have won, maybe resulting in a few more rings. But it didn't happen and we only have 1, so be it.

[korvac]

Oh yeah, several times. Maybe not the exact same way, but same general way. You ever heard of the "***** drunken kicker"? It happens, only thing that matters is the final score.

[ColtinIraq]

So, let me get this straight, Texans fan. Your team lost and all you can come up with is how bad the Pats are going to beat us by? Really? Wow. Poor little fella. Hee Hee. Maybe the Pats will beat us. They are a really good team. So, what's that say about your team? Hmm, smartass?

Losers - they always do that. Look for another team to do what they couldn't do.

[Kelco83]

Losers - they always do that. Look for another team what they couldn't do.

Hey now, we're allowed to root for more than one team. They BARELY squeezed a victory in when we were sloppy. Consider it a last favor before we get serious.;)

[Colts4thewin]

I doubt you have ever outplayed someone and lost to them in the vein we did today.

Oooh..that sounds like on of those "moral" (or morale?) victories like the 49ers fan talked about after they almost beat us! You guys can go into the bye week all smug because you should've won. As we all know, however, a mark in the Win column is the only measure of a teams success in the NFL.

[Kelco83]

Oooh..that sounds like on of those "moral" (or morale?) victories like the 49ers fan talked about after they almost beat us! You guys can go into the bye week all smug because you should've won. As we all know, however, a mark in the Win column is the only measure of a teams success in the NFL.

If I condescended I'd be smug about how horrible we did and still made it a 3 point game. But Ill take the highroad and say good game.

[korvac]

Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC championship game. Was a punch to the gut. We've had our heartbreakers too. They feel a lot worse in the playoffs, so don't get all down on your boys yet, it's only midseason.

[Colts4thewin]

You are so overconfident! :rolleyes:

Any other team would have scored that FG, resulting in OT. Who knows what would have happen, but as history shows the other team would have won.

:rolleyes:

Overconfident? At what point do you girls let an 8-0 team brag about its accomplishments? We're just stating facts, pal. Here's another one; perhaps any other team would've made that field goal. But you guys didn't. So, I'm just gonna go ahead and pencil in another W for our next game against the Texans. Oh, sorry. Is that overconfidence?

[Kelco83]

Overconfident? At what point do you girls let an 8-0 team brag about its accomplishments? We're just stating facts, pal. Here's another one; perhaps any other team would've made that field goal. But you guys didn't. So, I'm just gonna go ahead and pencil in another W for our next game against the Texans. Oh, sorry. Is that overconfidence?

Its not overconfidence, its trolling.

[theanswer000]

We get our redemption in 3 weeks fellas.

[circlecity317]

Sound like you areworried about the Pats ! well get worried about reliant stadium in a few weeks and here is another hard cold fact why does the NFL always schedule the Pats at your house, and not in New England, 4 years in a row, What's wrong Peyton afraid of the Cold & Snow.....now be a good little trick and go look up this true fact.....and get the Colts out of your cornhole.......


Oh lookie here a newbie NFL fan that has no idea of how NFL scheduling works. Last time I checked the colts won the last 2 games in foxboro.

[Colts4thewin]

If I condescended I'd be smug about how horrible we did and still made it a 3 point game. But Ill take the highroad and say good game.

Oh great. A true fan of the game. Fine, I'll concede that my Colts didn't blow you guys out like I'd hoped. I know the Pats are going to be a tough game for us, and I now think the Texans game is obviously no longer a given. It was a good game, fellas. Especially when I was watching you guys rack up all those penalties thinking we were going to walk away with the score. You guys kept it close, I look foward to Round II. And as always, I hope you lose. :)