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Se7en
11-03-2009, 12:45 PM
I keep seeing people discredit Moats for the game he had against the Bills because they have a horrible rushing Defense. I get the reasoning behind it, but people stop at that point and do not look any further at the way Moats stacks up with all the other teams the Bills have played.
We cannot say that Moats is the next Barry Sanders base don one game, but please give Moats credit for a solid game. I do not normally take the time to dig up the numbers because 99.9% of the time on this board it falls to the side as people start arguing about who can spell the best.
Here are the numbers so far this season and I think they speak for themselves when I say that I am impressed with what Moats did on Sunday.
Rushing against the Bills:
1- 210 Yards - Thomas Jones - NYJ
2- 126 Yards - Ryan moats - TEX
3- 126 Yards - Pierre Thomas - NO
4- 117 Yards - Jamal Lewis - CLE
5- 115 Yards - Ronnie Brown - MIA
6- 89 Yards - DeAngelo Hall - CAR
7- 32 Yards - Derrik Ward - TB
8- 32 Yards - Lawrence Maroney - NE
The names on this list are not push-over backs and while these are individual stats it does show how Moats compares to the other players that led rushing for their teams.
Heres to a good game on Sunday and both Moats and Slaton combining to rip the Colts.
Moats had a really good pre season and did well in the few games where he played in the regular season. I am glad to see him get a chance to play . However, I hope that both and he and Slaton will be able to play this weekend.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 01:26 PM
Moats had a really good pre season and did well in the few games where he played in the regular season. I am glad to see him get a chance to play . However, I hope that both and he and Slaton will be able to play this weekend.
Certainly both of them would be better than just one of them. Slaton found himself in the dog house last week and he should be out in time to see some plays on Sunday.
Moats has never been a bad player, people are just marking it up as a fluke because they think he is a random journeyman that we picked up for depth. Moats is still young and still has fresh young legs like Slaton.
If the injuries from early in his career are past, then I think he will have a nice solid career with our team or someone else.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 01:29 PM
Bills = Worst run defense in football.
Chill out on Ryan Moats, okay. He's good, but would be best utilized as a power back.
You need more smily faces in your post. Your text looks angry. :eek:
The whole point...
Even if the Bills are horrible, Moats was still one of the best runners to get yardage on their team and he also topped it off with 3 TDs. So people need to stop passing Moats off like every other runner ran against them for 300 yards and 10 TDs on the ground.
dbruder44
11-03-2009, 01:59 PM
Bills = Worst run defense in football.
Chill out on Ryan Moats, okay. He's good, but would be best utilized as a power back.
Yeah but the point is we had like 50-60 more than their average in passing and 20+ more than their average in rushing we put up over 420 yards while giving them 3 turnovers.
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 02:22 PM
Thank you ThaSchaub. Well put.
Also:
Here are the numbers so far this season and I think they speak for themselves when I say that I am impressed with what Moats did on Sunday.
Rushing against the Bills:
1- 210 Yards - Thomas Jones - NYJ
2- 126 Yards - Ryan moats - TEX
3- 126 Yards - Pierre Thomas - NO
4- 117 Yards - Jamal Lewis - CLE
5- 115 Yards - Ronnie Brown - MIA
6- 89 Yards - DeAngelo Hall - CAR
7- 32 Yards - Derrik Ward - TB
8- 32 Yards - Lawrence Maroney - NE
The names on this list are not push-over backs and while these are individual stats it does show how Moats compares to the other players that led rushing for their teams.
I appreciate the defending of your point with numbers, I wish more people would use proof to back a claim, but if you're gonna display data, display it all baby. If you looked a little closer you would see...
1- 210 Yards - Thomas Jones - NYJ -
Did just about nothing all season(except against HOU) until he played Buffalo. Nothing. Yards by week starting with week 2.... 54, 20, 48, 42... then the buffalo game.. 210!!!
EDIT FROM sportfan73: Leon Washington also rushed for 99 that game
3- 126 Yards - Pierre Thomas - NO -
Dude rounds out the top 20 for RB's, after week 8 first of all. The Bills game was far and away his best game, and his ONLY 100 yard game of the year. He averaged 9 (thats NINE) yards a carry and scored twice. His 2nd best game was just last week where he netted 91 yards and a touch.
4- 117 Yards - Jamal Lewis - CLE
Seriously? Do I have to even go into detail? Ok, I will. Here's his yardage by game:
57, 38, 117, 21, 47, 69. Can you guess which one is the Buffalo game?
5- 115 Yards - Ronnie Brown - MIA
Has two 100 yard games this year, one against Indy and yep, you guessed it, his best game of the year against Buffalo.
I like to take this time to point out that only One of the backs mentioned thus far sits in the top 10 statistically speaking. Just one. Non-push over may need a definition. Until the next guy
6- 89 Yards - DeAngelo Hall - CAR
Or as i like to call him DeAngelo Williams, has had 3 straight good weeks. Prior to that, not much happening. This is about the only back on the list I'm willing to concede your point too.
7- 32 Yards - Derrik Ward - TB -
Tampa Bay bro... aren't they going through enough without me picking on them.
8- 32 Yards - Lawrence Maroney - NE
Is a decent back but he split time taht game with two other "non push over" backs. If he was the sole back the numbers would have been higher.
So what does all this mean? It means that Ryan Moats was fortunate to get the nod on a day his team was playing the Bills, nothing more.
What doesn't it mean? It doesn't mean I'm not saying Moats should get to play more, the bottom line is it was the Bills and we all need to see more of this against other teams before we hand him the reigns, or for me, even give him bigtime credit for the day he had. That's all. If this happened against the Vikes, I'd be a bit more apprehensive about my thoughts.
sportfan73
11-03-2009, 02:27 PM
you missed Leon also rushing for 99 in the game where TJ had 210
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 02:32 PM
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BattleTexans
11-03-2009, 02:41 PM
Thank you ThaSchaub. Well put.
Most Deff!!!
I think Moats should be our in-the-20s running back and end of game back, with Slaton handling the load. We overwork Slaton.
I agree. I also think that Slaton isn't the same Confident guy we saw last year. I think he drops his head TOO soon and waits for the tackle to come to him vs. beating at it's front door.
I don't think he's finding the pockets like he was last year, where you'd see a pile of ppl then BAM!!! out from no where comes Slaton!!
This years its more like he runs INTO the pile, well into the back of one of his own players haha.
I would still prefer Slaton over Moats, but they do need to split the time on the field. That would be a badass One Two punch combo.
They are two different players that have different ways of running the ball.
If they did a One Two punch combo, the other team's defense would have a hard time trying to figure out whether Slaton will get he ball, Moats, Andre, Anderson, or even one of the O-line men hahaha!!!
And THAT's what I LOVE about this team. There isn't one SuperStar, it's a combined effort from Everyone; and THAT is what a real team is all about.
Ceasar
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Bills = Worst run defense in football.
Chill out on Ryan Moats, okay. He's good, but would be best utilized as a power back.
Moats is faster than Slaton. I don't know that he has any more power than SS.
Just like Tennessee, or New York (either), Buffalo, San Diego, or dare I say it.... Dallas.... there shouldn't be a "role" that either SS or Moats should have to fill. They should just split carries. If we think Moats speed is a clear advantage in one game, he should get the majority of carries. If we think Slaton's vision & burst give us the biggest advantage, he should get the majority of carries.
& Chris Brown should continue to work on his game. Heaven forbid we need him for more than the few carries a game he's getting.. but you never know.
Remember when Carolina went to the play-offs, Deshaun Foster got hurt... Steven Davis got hurt, & they were relying on Nick Goings??
This shouldn't be an either or thing. Just like the OC needs to come up with ways to get JJ & David Anderson on the field, they need to find ways to get Moats, Slaton & Brown on the field.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 02:59 PM
I would still prefer Slaton over Moats, but they do need to split the time on the field. That was be a badass One Two punch combo.
So people are thinking that Slaton was going to have the same game with the same yardage and scored since the Bills are that bad right?
I honestly cannot see Slaton having come close to these kind of numbers or points base don how he has been running all season. I do understand that people are still quick to defend him because of his amazing output last season.
Slaton is not playing like last season right now and Moats IS playing like Slaton did last season. Will he keep it up? Nobody knows, but we will see!
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:04 PM
So people are thinking that Slaton was going to have the same game with the same yardage and scored since the Bills are that bad right?
I honestly cannot see Slaton having come close to these kind of numbers or points base don how he has been running all season.
How can you say that? The long TD run Moats had was virtually untouched. He was past the line before being touched several times. The only way I think Slaton doesn't put up numbers is if he doeqlkjwehtbqew woops, I fumbled my keyboard....
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 03:09 PM
How can you say that? The long TD run Moats had was virtually untouched. He was past the line before being touched several times. The only way I think Slaton doesn't put up numbers is if he doeqlkjwehtbqew woops, I fumbled my keyboard....
That's because he is running with burst & speed. SS hasn't been he's shown that burst every now & again, but only every now & again.
His first run.. his only run against the Bills went for 1 yard. I don't think Moats had one for less than 3.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 03:09 PM
I appreciate the defending of your point with numbers, I wish more people would use proof to back a claim, but if you're gonna display data, display it all baby. If you looked a little closer you would see.
I used these stats because it was the point I was making. We have not played all the other teams that each of those backs have played against so we cannot compare numbers directly for each back outside of the Bills D. I was also not comparing total yardage, but the yardage for the leading rushers for each game to compare how Moats looked.
Slaton put the same number of yards on the Bills that other QUALITY backs in this league put on them. It was not a fluke or use getting lucky, Moats played well and put up the numbers we should have seen on Sunday.
If people would rather compare runnign style and ability to hit the holes... Moats looked miles ahead of Slaton on Sunday. Early in the game SLaton run up the middle with a wide open field to his right. He did not run to his right though, he ran into his blockers in the middle of the field and ignored the massive hole down the sideline which led into the endzone.
We will all see how he does come Sunday, but I have always been confident in Moats and I am excited to see what he can do. That is more than I could ever say about the "No Gain Dayne Train."
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 03:15 PM
I stand corrected. Moats did have a run for no gain in the 4th Qtr. a 1 yard TD. & a run for only 2 yards.
Se7en is close... Moats isn't running like Slaton did last year, but Slaton sure as heck isn't. Moats has always been faster.. but Slaton had the better vision, and a quick burst to make the cutback... which if you've noticed, Moats is hitting whatever hole is right in front of him.
There were bigger holes there, that last years SS would have exploited. But Moats was good enough against the Bills.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 03:23 PM
How can you say that? The long TD run Moats had was virtually untouched. He was past the line before being touched several times. The only way I think Slaton doesn't put up numbers is if he doeqlkjwehtbqew woops, I fumbled my keyboard....
If you have the game on DVR watch the first Slaton run again. He has an open field and never notices that he can cut to the right into open field.
That is why I can say that, he is not seeing the holes and he is not bursting through them to get the yards needed to keep the O on the field. Moats said it best in an interview, "My goal is to get the yardage neede din order to get the first downs so we can stay on the field."
Slaton appears to be trying to score TDs each time he gets the ball rather than just working to keep us on the field for a new series.
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 03:24 PM
Early in the game SLaton run up the middle with a wide open field to his right. He did not run to his right though, he ran into his blockers in the middle of the field and ignored the massive hole down the sideline which led into the endzone.
Very true..... but to be fair, there was a corner back there to the right. Not a big thing for the old SS, and he would have got more yards had he run right into that guy, and not up into Winston's Arse.
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:24 PM
I used these stats because it was the point I was making. We have not played all the other teams that each of those backs have played against so we cannot compare numbers directly for each back outside of the Bills D.
So what is your point exactly then? That Ryan Moats belongs in the NFL elite list?
I'm not sure what your point is anymore. I used the stats I did to illustrate that:
1. Not all those backs are good
2. All of those backs except for the last two had their best day of the year against Buffalo.
3. Ryan Moats is unproven
IF 1 AND 2 ARE TRUE THEN 3 IS TRUE.
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Very true..... but to be fair, there was a corner back there to the right. Not a big thing for the old SS, and he would have got more yards had he run right into that guy, and not up into Winston's Arse.
So because the first run of the game was a wash you're willing to say that Slaton would have been terrible all day?
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:27 PM
Let me reiterate that I don't deny pulling him was the right call, that was never the question. Dude cant hang on the bean.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 03:30 PM
So what is your point exactly then? That Ryan Moats belongs in the NFL elite list?
I'm not sure what your point is anymore. I used the stats I did to illustrate that:
1. Not all those backs are good
2. All of those backs except for the last two had their best day of the year against Buffalo.
3. Ryan Moats is unproven
IF 1 AND 2 ARE TRUE THEN 3 IS TRUE.
You are just going in a different direction than I am. I am not saying Moats is going to be the next LT, Slaton, Sanders, etc. He is not elite and I never said that. I said Moats deserves credit instead of people writing his great game off as just a product of facing one of the worst run Ds in the league.
Moats is unproven as a starter, he is not unproven as a back. Last season he ran great when he was needed and this season he has also been great when needed.
People need to give him credit and he deserves the start Sunday to show that our teamwrewards those who produce on the field. SLaton needs to learn now that he will not be on the field if he cannot handle the ball.
Bottomline for me... I want Slaton and Moats out there sharing the load and keeping each other fresh. Slaton does not need to be an every down back to make explosive plays.
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 03:30 PM
So what is your point exactly then? That Ryan Moats belongs in the NFL elite list?
Are you saying Slaton belongs on the elite list?
I'll agree he's got the talent, and a had a strong rookie year....but I wouldn't float a big money contract out to him anytime soon.
So because the first run of the game was a wash you're willing to say that Slaton would have been terrible all day?
Why not, that's what he's done all year.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Very true..... but to be fair, there was a corner back there to the right. Not a big thing for the old SS, and he would have got more yards had he run right into that guy, and not up into Winston's Arse.
I will watch it again later, but I remember it being wide open and I freaked out that Slaton couldn't see it. Wide open meaning about a 6-10 foot hole to run into and then turn the jets on to head up the field.
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:33 PM
You are just going in a different direction than I am. I am not saying Moats is going to be the next LT, Slaton, Sanders, etc. He is not elite and I never said that. I said Moats deserves credit instead of people writing his great game off as just a product of facing one of the worst run Ds in the league.
Fair enough, although I'm still not going to give him any praise. I think you could have put up those numbers against Buffalo. I didn't think I was going in a different direction, sorry. My whole point the whole time is that Buffalo is terrible against the run and this is nothing to get excited over. Should he get the ball more now? YES, I can totally get behind that. 100%.
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 03:33 PM
People need to give him credit and he deserves the start Sunday to show that our teamwrewards those who produce on the field. SLaton needs to learn now that he will not be on the field if he cannot handle the ball.
Bottomline for me... I want Slaton and Moats out there sharing the load and keeping each other fresh. Slaton does not need to be an every down back to make explosive plays.
The only problem with that, is that if SS's problem is that he's trying too hard to create, this will make matters worse.
Let Slaton start..... give Moats the majority of the carries. If we're going to run the ball.... put Moats in there. If the RB is going to be part of a screen or a dump off... put Slaton in there.
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:34 PM
The only problem with that, is that if SS's problem is that he's trying too hard to create, this will make matters worse.
Let Slaton start..... give Moats the majority of the carries. If we're going to run the ball.... put Moats in there. If the RB is going to be part of a screen or a dump off... put Slaton in there.
Problem with that is you become predictable and able to be read by LB's. Ask Ryans what he thought of Buffalo's offense.
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:36 PM
Are you saying Slaton belongs on the elite list?
I'll agree he's got the talent, and a had a strong rookie year....but I wouldn't float a big money contract out to him anytime soon.
Why not, that's what he's done all year.
WHOA WHOA WHOA, I'm not talking about Steve Slaton at all here, this whole convo is about Moats. To assume an entire game against the WORST rushing defense by a lot in NFL is wash because of THE FIRST play is just plain dumb.
Se7en
11-03-2009, 03:45 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA, I'm not talking about Steve Slaton at all here, this whole convo is about Moats. To assume an entire game against the WORST rushing defense by a lot in NFL is wash because of THE FIRST play is just plain dumb.
My only point with that run play is he is not seeing the holes. You can also look back over all the other games this season and on a number of plays Slaton does not see the gaps to hit when they are there.
So while it was 1 play, I am refering to his inability to see holes in every game up to this point. I am still holding out hope that he will get through all of this in time for us to push into the playoffs!
mmtex63
11-03-2009, 03:53 PM
i'm no expert by any means but i watch alot a ball.you can't tell me or try to lead me to believe that slaton has been hitting the hole or even if there's no hole ,hitting the line of scrimage like moats is doing .i like the hell out of slaton -- just believe he aint hittin like moats is.---don't think slaton should or will lose his job but moats needs to see more time and that is"nt because of the bills game, it;s because every time he has ran this year he runs hard and fast.WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK OF A RB
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:56 PM
i'm no expert by any means but i watch alot a ball.you can't tell me or try to lead me to believe that slaton has been hitting the hole or even if there's no hole ,hitting the line of scrimage like moats is doing .i like the hell out of slaton -- just believe he aint hittin like moats is.---don't think slaton should or will lose his job but moats needs to see more time and that is"nt because of the bills game, it;s because every time he has ran this year he runs hard and fast.WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK OF A RB
while your points may be correct, that wasn't the debate.
weretalkinproud
11-03-2009, 03:57 PM
My only point with that run play is he is not seeing the holes. You can also look back over all the other games this season and on a number of plays Slaton does not see the gaps to hit when they are there.
So while it was 1 play, I am refering to his inability to see holes in every game up to this point. I am still holding out hope that he will get through all of this in time for us to push into the playoffs!
This debate turned into every other thread on this board Slaton v.s. Moats. That wasn't what you intended it to be I don't think. Certainly not at all what I was talking about
mmtex63
11-03-2009, 03:59 PM
while your points may be correct, that wasn't the debate.
i don't care about no debate. just typing what i want to type.
TexSid
11-03-2009, 04:15 PM
I would start Moats and bring Slaton in if Moats is not getting the job done. Slaton will want in and be motivated like the last time he got pulled. He ran hard then. Our oline was not openning holes for Slaton in the first games but that does not mean he gets to fumble 7 times with 5 going to the other team that is just crazy!
Se7en
11-03-2009, 04:32 PM
This debate turned into every other thread on this board Slaton v.s. Moats. That wasn't what you intended it to be I don't think. Certainly not at all what I was talking about
NO I did not intended it to go that direction. :)
I was just impressed when Is aw the other numbers because Moats was up there as one of the better runners that faced the Bills. Even if they are bad he deserves some credit for gashing them up just like other runners did.
I honestly think peopel expected us to have a decent run game against the Bills because we were both doing poorly. Instead we exploded in the run game like the other teams that had been running well all season did. We were not running well up to this point so in my opinion Moats was the biggest piece of that puzzle that changed, not the Bills D.
mordyel3
11-03-2009, 06:46 PM
what i think is people have a problem with reading comprehension. I got what you were trying to say and i think a few others did as well; then the slaton groupies came in and got mad. This post wasn't about slaton period. It was about how moats isn't a scrub, and deserves the respect of the texans fans more than he is getting. Seriously the way some of you talk about him you would think he played for the tacks or dolts. I will leave by saying aren't you at least glad we had someone to backup slaton other than chris brown?
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 06:54 PM
Didn't Kubiak say he wished he had seen more of Moats last year?
You've got to be an blind imbecile not to recognize the little rocket has talent. He is not a 30 touch back. Slaton shouldn't be used as a 30 touch back. . & Chris Brown shouldn't be a 30 touch back.
They should all get carries every game.
CanadaGoose
11-03-2009, 07:08 PM
6- 89 Yards - DeAngelo Hall - CAR
Chill out on Ryan Moats, okay. He's good, but would be best utilized as a power back.
First, when did DeAngelo Hall get traded to the Panthers and change positions?
Second, anyone have the amount of carries for these runners?
I'm interested to know how Moats really stacks up.
Third, where is this notion of Moats as a power back coming from? He's actually smaller than Slaton. He may be a better power-type back than him, but that's not saying much...
Fourth, let's hope for a resounding victory this week... GO TEXANS!
thunderkyss
11-03-2009, 07:19 PM
...where is this notion of Moats as a power back coming from? He's actually smaller than Slaton. He may be a better power-type back than him, but that's not saying much...
Did you see him bowl over Posluszny? He trucked him about 3 times that I remember.
I don't think he's a power back either, but I guess that's what they're talking about. I've seen Slaton move the pile, but Moats straight up trucked Posluszny.
Sprtsfanatic
11-03-2009, 07:25 PM
First, when did DeAngelo Hall get traded to the Panthers and change positions?
Second, anyone have the amount of carries for these runners?
I'm interested to know how Moats really stacks up.
Third, where is this notion of Moats as a power back coming from? He's actually smaller than Slaton. He may be a better power-type back than him, but that's not saying much...
Fourth, let's hope for a resounding victory this week... GO TEXANS!
I'd also like to see what kind of TD numbers the others put up as well for comparison
Texan Naija
11-03-2009, 11:10 PM
I really like Moats but I do think some folk are over blowing things. He is a solid RB and will contribute to the team if given the shot but lets not get ahead of our selves. In the preseason he played against and dominated 2nd and 3rd stringers and his only two games getting carries was against a pretty crummy Oakland team and Buffalo.
weretalkinproud
11-04-2009, 08:20 AM
NO I did not intended it to go that direction. :)
I was just impressed when Is aw the other numbers because Moats was up there as one of the better runners that faced the Bills. Even if they are bad he deserves some credit for gashing them up just like other runners did.
I honestly think peopel expected us to have a decent run game against the Bills because we were both doing poorly. Instead we exploded in the run game like the other teams that had been running well all season did. We were not running well up to this point so in my opinion Moats was the biggest piece of that puzzle that changed, not the Bills D.
So you still think that my argument for the Bills D being terrible is not good enough? All those numbers I gave you? haha, no worries man. It was a good debate. At least you tried to back your claim with facts. Better than saying "Nuh-Uh!!!!" like a 6 year old.
EDIT: But after displaying all those numbers I don't see how you can not see where I'm coming from. That post was gold Jerry, GOLD!!!
mordyel3
11-04-2009, 08:23 AM
texan naija, see i can accept that over you all are crazy because slaton is the best because of last year talk. We should be looking to this year not last year. This is a new season, and i love the guy, but 7 fumbles in i think we see what someone else can do, or slowly work him back in, and if moats continues to play like he did last sunday, i would like to see more of him, regardless of who they play because at the end of the day they are all nfl players, even the ones who are last in run defense
Se7en
11-04-2009, 09:21 AM
where is this notion of Moats as a power back coming from? He's actually smaller than Slaton. He may be a better power-type back than him, but that's not saying much...
People saw his speed to the hole and burst. They are thinking that means he wa spowering through the gaps, but he was really just slipping through the small holes.
Se7en
11-04-2009, 09:24 AM
But after displaying all those numbers I don't see how you can not see where I'm coming from. That post was gold Jerry, GOLD!!!
Of course they are bad at run D, but we were just as bad at running the ball. It is not that I cannot see your point, I am just not going to write off Moats as only playing well due to going up against the Bills.
weretalkinproud
11-04-2009, 12:02 PM
haha I'm not writing him off either. I think it's sensible to say no matter who it happened against, you would want to see more before going Moats Crazy™
This could also be due to the fact that I have had to sit and listen to Bills fans go gaga over a quarterback that completes one slant pass.
Se7en
11-04-2009, 12:04 PM
This could also be due to the fact that I have had to sit and listen to Bills fans go gaga over a quarterback that completes one slant pass.
Understandable! :)
Wolfscar
11-04-2009, 02:39 PM
I agree - yes the Bills have a horrible rush defense but setting stats aside Moats looked really good. He fought for every yard and hit the holes with venom. Now I know that part of that was the Bills making him look good, but they can't do that on their own. I've always liked Moats as a HB and I think - like the players said - he showed off some of what he does best last Sunday.
I'd like to see him come in as our short yardage back, myself. Leave Chris Brown to wear opponents down at the end of the game, give Slaton the lions' share of carries and give it to Moats when we need a yard or two or to change things up. He's a decent weight for a guy under 6' too.
Texan Naija
11-04-2009, 03:20 PM
texan naija, see i can accept that over you all are crazy because slaton is the best because of last year talk. We should be looking to this year not last year. This is a new season, and i love the guy, but 7 fumbles in i think we see what someone else can do, or slowly work him back in, and if moats continues to play like he did last sunday, i would like to see more of him, regardless of who they play because at the end of the day they are all nfl players, even the ones who are last in run defense
Exactly, I still want Slaton to start, but as I would prefer that rather then just giving it to one primary ball carrier, they split it up nearly down the middle, with Moats getting most of the normal running plays. I think Moats has been running great but I think Slaton on the field is still a positive for us, a good blocker for a small guy and with OD out we could use his hands.
weretalkinproud
11-05-2009, 09:10 AM
I agree - yes the Bills have a horrible rush defense but setting stats aside Moats looked really good. He fought for every yard and hit the holes with venom. Now I know that part of that was the Bills making him look good, but they can't do that on their own. I've always liked Moats as a HB and I think - like the players said - he showed off some of what he does best last Sunday.
I'd like to see him come in as our short yardage back, myself. Leave Chris Brown to wear opponents down at the end of the game, give Slaton the lions' share of carries and give it to Moats when we need a yard or two or to change things up. He's a decent weight for a guy under 6' too.
Nail meet Head!
Nice post guy.
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