"" 's from the Indy Star!!!

[jamielily]

http://www.indystar.com/article/99999999/SPORTS03/90908053

The Reporter Thinks "Texans aren't at the Colts' level just yet."

I am just watering from the mouth for a "W"....

please Kill Texans!!

[DILLIGAF]

I agree with the article...but I do see the Texans winning this game!

[texanfan4ever]

The Colts think this is a no-brainer, especially since they are at home. THAT is good, let them think that while we slither in to their town and whoop their A**!!!!

[korvac]

I'm sure the Colt's don't think that. Maybe some of the fans but what fans think and say have no impact on games.

[Tuxicon]

The Colts think this is a no-brainer, especially since they are at home. THAT is good, let them think that while we slither in to their town and whoop their A**!!!!

Where have you seen that the players themselves think this is a no-brainer? Are you people for real? Show me some evidence that the players are taking the texans lightly? Some of you have no clue.

[Tuxicon]

I'm sure the Colt's don't think that. Maybe some of the fans but what fans think and say have no impact on games.

Exactly. Just because some fans are taking this lightly doesn't mean crap. Hey texans fans, wake up! The colts are treating this like any other game. They prepare the same no matter who they play. I swear, some of you were dropped on your heads as little kids.

[Tuxicon]

http://www.indystar.com/article/99999999/SPORTS03/90908053

The Reporter Thinks "Texans aren't at the Colts' level just yet."


And what makes you think that the texans are at the colts level? What have they done to make people think that they are at the colts level? 5-3? Please. This is the first time over .500, and all of a sudden you want the whole world to praise you. :rolleyes:

[infantrycak]

Exactly. Just because some fans are taking this lightly doesn't mean crap. Hey texans fans, wake up! The colts are treating this like any other game. They prepare the same no matter who they play. I swear, some of you were dropped on your heads as little kids.

Keep the smack talk in the smack talk thread.

No the Colts will not treat this game lightly - Manning in particular never does.

[Se7en]

This is the first time over .500, and all of a sudden you want the whole world to praise you. :rolleyes:

Really? What is your deal and why are you so hung up on smack talking a team that you think is so far beneath your team?

I have not seen any Texans fan asking for undue praise of their team and I think the places like the NLF network give us plenty of respect as a team. :rolleyes:

[jamielily]

And what makes you think that the texans are at the colts level? What have they done to make people think that they are at the colts level? 5-3? Please. This is the first time over .500, and all of a sudden you want the whole world to praise you. :rolleyes:

IN ALL HONESTY.. I was just giving everone the insite i found in the indystar. It was a great article..

But.... Make sure u come back here and post something nice after the game..

W or L... Texans make any game intresting!!:eek:

5-3 Baby!!!!

[texanfan4ever]

And what makes you think that the texans are at the colts level? What have they done to make people think that they are at the colts level? 5-3? Please. This is the first time over .500, and all of a sudden you want the whole world to praise you. :rolleyes:


Just come back and get some crow on Monday. What we are all talking about will be clear to you then. No praise needed!

[korvac]

We could also throw up a list a mile long about why the Colts will beat the texans, but the case most definitely won't be closed till the end of the season now will it.

[Se7en]

We could also throw up a list a mile long about why the Colts will beat the texans, but the case most definitely won't be closed till the end of the season now will it.

We will look forward to seeing all of these new posters on Sunday afternoon. :)

[hpflfan]

Acutually a pretty good article. I disagree with him on the "Coaching" though. Caldwell hasn't prooven anything other than that he hasn't messed up a good team with Manning at QB. I think it's even..or slight advantage to Houston.

If the Texans continue to show up (and they should for this game) it should be a good game that could go either way. You can't expect and Indy fan to predict a Houston W seeing that we have never won in their stadium (and only once in ours).

Sure would have been nice to have finished off the Rosencopter game last year.

[korvac]

I'm not sold ont he coaching part either. Caldwell seems to be doing well keeping the status quo, but he hasn't done any drastic changes to make him a genious either. I don't see us all of a sudden having a dominant run game or run D. PMoney can make almost any coach a winner.

[texanfan4ever]

We have beat them, (David Carr Christmas Eve 2007), OR come close to beating them last year with a way lesser team and no Schaub, and no Schaub and Andre ever. So the sky's the limit with this group we have now. And I think they will show up for the whole game. All they have to do is get Manning on the run, or keep him off the field, and it could be a fabulous Sunday.

[ColtinIraq]

The Colts think this is a no-brainer, especially since they are at home. THAT is good, let them think that while we slither in to their town and whoop their A**!!!!

I just don't get it. You are 1-13 against us.

1-13

How do you lay down such smack? Weren't you the preseason darlings last year that were supposed to assume the throne?

I like the Texans and thought your fans were way too tough on Schaub last year. It's going to be a good game - like it's always been.

[SuperstarII]

I just don't get it. You are 1-13 against us.

1-13

How do you lay down such smack? Weren't you the preseason darlings last year that were supposed to assume the throne?

I like the Texans and thought your fans were way too tough on Schaub last year. It's going to be a good game - like it's always been.


too tough on schaub last year? how about too tough on Sage.

[gregastory]

I'm struggling to understand why they think our passing offense and Indy's passing defense is a push...

[Se7en]

I'm struggling to understand why they think our passing offense and Indy's passing defense is a push...

IMHO it is because our explosive passing offense cannot hold a candle to their unproven rookie CBs. IMHO.

[korvac]

I wouldn't go that far. Our defensive backs have been playing very well and we have an excellent pass rush, so we tend to believe we can match up with any pass attack in the NFL. The Indystar is obviously based in Indy so you gotta expect homer favortism.

[korvac]

Dunno we'll see, our 2 outside guys are pretty darn good.

[tncolt]

I am not trying to talk crap or anything, I respect the Texans and I do believe they do have a very good chance of beating us any day at any place. I will say this, you guys knock our schedule but who have you beat that is worth writing home about? You can't have losing seasons year in and year out and all of a sudden get respect because you are 5-3. The Colts are at least 12-4 nearly every year and have played in countless big games, they know how to win big games, it is second nature to them. The Texans have never played in a big game that I can remember so it is hard to tell how they will react. I know one thing for sure, they are not afraid or intimidated by the Colts so I think they will come to play. I do think this is the best team you guys have ever had and if not this year your time is coming soon. The Texans have built their team up through the draft and have some of the best players in the NFL like Johnson and Ryans but we have the best player in the league period and the X factor in Peyton Manning.

[protoTexans]

Archie must have wrote that post.... sniff sniff, I smell some Indy BS.....

[LaserRocketArm]

http://www.indystar.com/article/99999999/SPORTS03/90908053

The Reporter Thinks "Texans aren't at the Colts' level just yet."

I am just watering from the mouth for a "W"....

please Kill Texans!!

And is he wrong?

The Colts are 7-0.

The Texans are 5-3.

The Colts are 13-1 vs. the Texans.

I respect the Texans, but they are not on the same level as the Colts, unless they can win this week.

[Leebo]

Yet, outside of the Jets, who blitzed nearly 80% of the time, Schaub hasn't gotten touched. If you are going to beat us, your rookie CBs will have to.

What exactly do you mean by hasn't gotten touched? Since you mention blitzing I'm assuming you are talking about sacks, but according to nfl.com Schaub has been sacked 13 times this year. 2 of which came from the Jets.

http://www.nfl.com/players/mattschaub/gamelogs?id=SCH085186

[AirForce1]

I'd say the Bengals in Cinci was a pretty big win. San Fran was no pushover as you guys learned last week and the Bills at Buffalo are a lot more difficult than they are given credit for.

[LaserRocketArm]

IMHO it is because our explosive passing offense cannot hold a candle to their unproven rookie CBs. IMHO.

Yep, it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Indy has only allowed 3 passing TDs the whole year.

And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Indy is #1 in Net Yards allowed per pass.

[BIGTEX76549]

I am not trying to talk crap or anything, I respect the Texans and I do believe they do have a very good chance of beating us any day at any place. I will say this, you guys knock our schedule but who have you beat that is worth writing home about? You can't have losing seasons year in and year out and all of a sudden get respect because you are 5-3. The Colts are at least 12-4 nearly every year and have played in countless big games, they know how to win big games, it is second nature to them. The Texans have never played in a big game that I can remember so it is hard to tell how they will react. I know one thing for sure, they are not afraid or intimidated by the Colts so I think they will come to play. I do think this is the best team you guys have ever had and if not this year your time is coming soon. The Texans have built their team up through the draft and have some of the best players in the NFL like Johnson and Ryans but we have the best player in the league period and the X factor in Peyton Manning.


How about when we knocked off the undefeated Titans last season?

[LaserRocketArm]

How about when we knocked off the undefeated Titans last season?

Pretty sure that was the Jets...

[BIGTEX76549]

Pretty sure that was the Jets...

u right. Still a big game for us indeed. Good luck to yall. (Not too much)..haha ;)

[tncolt]

How about when we knocked off the undefeated Titans last season?

That game had no playoff implications for you guys at all, you had nothing to lose and as LaserRocketArm pointed out they were not undefeated when you played them.

[TexanSacDawg]

And is he wrong?

The Colts are 7-0.

The Texans are 5-3.

The Colts are 13-1 vs. the Texans.

I respect the Texans, but they are not on the same level as the Colts, unless they can win this week.



stop with the record already
anyone can win any given sunday
its just who wants it more...


the patriots were 16-0 and lost in the superbowl remember that?

[SUPERTANK]

I am not trying to talk crap or anything, I respect the Texans and I do believe they do have a very good chance of beating us any day at any place. I will say this, you guys knock our schedule but who have you beat that is worth writing home about? You can't have losing seasons year in and year out and all of a sudden get respect because you are 5-3. The Colts are at least 12-4 nearly every year and have played in countless big games, they know how to win big games, it is second nature to them. The Texans have never played in a big game that I can remember so it is hard to tell how they will react. I know one thing for sure, they are not afraid or intimidated by the Colts so I think they will come to play. I do think this is the best team you guys have ever had and if not this year your time is coming soon. The Texans have built their team up through the draft and have some of the best players in the NFL like Johnson and Ryans but we have the best player in the league period and the X factor in Peyton Manning.

Yeah? How about Brady or even Favre or should I dare say his brother Eli manning :) who won a superbowl way faster then his older brother...

Eli not only won a superbowl faster but did it by beating the patriots! I think Peyton Manning can only do so much and I have seen the Colts struggle big time once they play the good teams such as the patriots year in and year out with the exeption of one superbowl, are you not a little pissed that Peyton doen't have more rings then Brady who is expected to get another one this year?

On record, we are 1-13 against the Colts and even if the Colts win; they can not take away the history the Texans have created this year:D

The Texans will still have 5 wins and be over .500 this season win or loose this sunday.

Im sure the Colts fans would be more upset with a loss then the Texans fans at this point.

Just remember that nothing last forever and the Texans will eventually start winning against the colts, it may be after Peyton retires but it will happen eventually

[ba4sloppy]

Yeah? How about Brady or even Favre or should I dare say his brother Eli manning :) who won a superbowl way faster then his older brother...

Oh no you didn't...

Listen folks, if you plan on discussing this week's game at all, you never draw Colts fans into a Manning/Brady debate. :(

Don't say I didn't warn you.

[korvac]

oh no you didn't...

listen folks, if you plan on discussing this week's game at all, you never draw colts fans into a manning/brady debate. :(

don't say i didn't warn you.

roflmao

[LaserRocketArm]

Yeah? How about Brady or even Favre or should I dare say his brother Eli manning :) who won a superbowl way faster then his older brother...

Eli not only won a superbowl faster but did it by beating the patriots! I think Peyton Manning can only do so much and I have seen the Colts struggle big time once they play the good teams such as the patriots year in and year out with the exeption of one superbowl, are you not a little pissed that Peyton doen't have more rings then Brady who is expected to get another one this year?

On record, we are 1-13 against the Colts and even if the Colts win; they can not take away the history the Texans have created this year:D

The Texans will still have 5 wins and be over .500 this season win or loose this sunday.

Im sure the Colts fans would be more upset with a loss then the Texans fans at this point.

Just remember that nothing last forever and the Texans will eventually start winning against the colts, it may be after Peyton retires but it will happen eventually

Umm...Peyton beat the Patriots too.

But let's not let facts get in our way.

[Whiskeyrbl]

eli won the super bowl quicker & with a weaker team.

Case closed.

lol

[Leebo]

Eli won the Super Bowl quicker & with a weaker team.

Case closed.

Before you close any more cases, how about you respond to my question that I qouted you on on page 3.

[korvac]

ThaSchaub's logic entertains me lol, it's comical. I hope he becomes a sports analyst when he grows up, I'd watch that show everyday.

[Se7en]

ThaSchaub's logic entertains me lol, it's comical. I hope he becomes a sports analyst when he grows up, I'd watch that show everyday.

AT least you find him entertaining... you are putting us to sleep with your reused boring smack.


ZZZzzz ZZZzzz

[korvac]

I haven't been talking smack, I've been talking stats and facts. If I wanted to go the smack talk route I'd be going woooohooo we are totally going to blow you out! you don't have a chance! schaub sucks! johnson is overrated! texas is full of steers and ******! you'll never win a superbowl in houston! etc etc etc.

I just prefer to use sound reasoning and logic in my posts.

[Se7en]

I respect the Texans, but they are not on the same level as the Colts, unless they can win this week.

So basically you are eating your crow early so you do not have to be as embarassed come Sunday afternoon? Smart tactic but it won't make the loss hurt any less!

[Se7en]

I just prefer to be a homer in my posts.

Helped you out a bit. You got some words confused when you were typing.

We are still trying to figure out how we are trying to model ourselves after the greatest team ever! Nah, you don't talk smack at all.

[korvac]

Yeah we've been over that and we determined you were hypersensitive due to having little guy syndrome.

[Se7en]

Yeah we've been over that and we determined you were hypersensitive due to having little guy syndrome.

No, we determined you have an inflated ego because you watch men play winning football and think it makes you a better person than the rest of us. :rolleyes:

[korvac]

You keep on thinking that because you're preprogrammed to hate the colts and any of their fans. Whatever makes you comfy at night.

[Texansneedhelp]

I am not trying to talk crap or anything, I respect the Texans and I do believe they do have a very good chance of beating us any day at any place. I will say this, you guys knock our schedule but who have you beat that is worth writing home about? You can't have losing seasons year in and year out and all of a sudden get respect because you are 5-3. The Colts are at least 12-4 nearly every year and have played in countless big games, they know how to win big games, it is second nature to them. The Texans have never played in a big game that I can remember so it is hard to tell how they will react. I know one thing for sure, they are not afraid or intimidated by the Colts so I think they will come to play. I do think this is the best team you guys have ever had and if not this year your time is coming soon. The Texans have built their team up through the draft and have some of the best players in the NFL like Johnson and Ryans but we have the best player in the league period and the X factor in Peyton Manning.

Tom Brady > Peyton Manning

[Texansneedhelp]

Umm...Peyton beat the Patriots too.

But let's not let facts get in our way.

3rings > than 1 = fact

[colts_hitman21]

3rings > than 1 = fact

1ring>0 rings = fact

Peyton Manning > Matt Schaub = fact

[Texansneedhelp]

Houston Texan fan in a Houston forum > Colts fan in a Houston board.
You have to come here to argue whos better. I bet you don't stick your nose in Steelers or Patriot forums.
Fact

[coytexan]

I just don't get it. You are 1-13 against us.

1-13

How do you lay down such smack? Weren't you the preseason darlings last year that were supposed to assume the throne?

I like the Texans and thought your fans were way too tough on Schaub last year. It's going to be a good game - like it's always been.
poor colts fan. this is a much different team than last year. starting first and foremost the defense. oh yeah! this will be the first time schaub and andre johnson play together against the colts. just something to think about. GOOD LUCK COLTS FANS.

[tncolt]

Yeah? How about Brady or even Favre or should I dare say his brother Eli manning :) who won a superbowl way faster then his older brother...

Eli not only won a superbowl faster but did it by beating the patriots! I think Peyton Manning can only do so much and I have seen the Colts struggle big time once they play the good teams such as the patriots year in and year out with the exeption of one superbowl, are you not a little pissed that Peyton doen't have more rings then Brady who is expected to get another one this year?

On record, we are 1-13 against the Colts and even if the Colts win; they can not take away the history the Texans have created this year:D

The Texans will still have 5 wins and be over .500 this season win or loose this sunday.

Im sure the Colts fans would be more upset with a loss then the Texans fans at this point.

Just remember that nothing last forever and the Texans will eventually start winning against the colts, it may be after Peyton retires but it will happen eventually


That is pretty sad when you call being .500 or better making history lol! I have refrained from talking smack but I cant help it anymore, You guys can ride Brady and the Pats coat tails all you want if it makes you feel better but we have the best QB in the NFL and he will go down as one of the best ever if not the best ever. 10 years from now no one will remember Matt Shaub's name and you guys are whining about not getting respect, well if you want it come get it if you can. Just to give you something to think about, do you think Peyton will actually have 2 bad games in a row at home none the less? I think Thanksgiving will come early for Peyton this year because he gets to carve up his turkey Sunday.

[Whiskeyrbl]

That is pretty sad when you call being .500 or better making history lol! I have refrained from talking smack but I cant help it anymore, You guys can ride Brady and the Pats coat tails all you want if it makes you feel better but we have the best QB in the NFL and he will go down as one of the best ever if not the best ever. 10 years from now no one will remember Matt Shaub's name and you guys are whining about not getting respect, well if you want it come get it if you can. Just to give you something to think about, do you think Peyton will actually have 2 bad games in a row at home none the less? I think Thanksgiving will come early for Peyton this year because he gets to carve up his turkey Sunday.

The Colts do have the best QB probably in the history of the NFL. And all your cockiness is really going to make me laugh when you get upset on Sunday. Oh and you can make all the fun you want about being .500 and all that stuff it is sad. But I am old enough to remember when the Colts were the doormat of the NFL. And as soon as Peyton retires you will assume that status once again. So make your jokes count now your time is coming soon. We will see if you come back Sunday around 3pm to eat your crow.

[tncolt]

The Colts do have the best QB probably in the history of the NFL. And all your cockiness is really going to make me laugh when you get upset on Sunday. Oh and you can make all the fun you want about being .500 and all that stuff it is sad. But I am old enough to remember when the Colts were the doormat of the NFL. And as soon as Peyton retires you will assume that status once again. So make your jokes count now your time is coming soon. We will see if you come back Sunday around 3pm to eat your crow.

I give you my word, win or lose I will be back here to congratulate you guys Sunday after the game.

[korvac]

OMG, you have no idea. When Peyton is ready to retire and officially become our OC we have the great Jim Sorgi ready to go, then we'll be next level!!!

[Whiskeyrbl]

OMG, you have no idea. When Peyton is ready to retire and officially become our OC we have the great Jim Sorgi ready to go, then we'll be next level!!!

(Cough,Cough)

[LaserRocketArm]

poor colts fan. this is a much different team than last year. starting first and foremost the defense. oh yeah! this will be the first time schaub and andre johnson play together against the colts. just something to think about. GOOD LUCK COLTS FANS.

And the Colts are a much better team than last year too.

But let's just ignore that.

[LaserRocketArm]

3rings > than 1 = fact

OK.

That proves that the Patriots have been more successful than the Colts this decade.

Doesn't mean Brady is better than Manning.

[ManningHimself]

And the Colts are a much better team than last year too.

But let's just ignore that.


Funny how everyone is ignoring this!

[houstonsportsfan09]

Who's ignoring what? Most Colts fan I see on here seem like this is just another game and seem like its already in the bag, mark it up a win for them. Us Texan fans know how good the Colts are. They're a top team, one of the only 2 unbeatens left. So while we keep bringing up that we're a better team than years past and we're no longer a doormat(hard for some of you's to believe, but I understand since you've just about owned us since day one), maybe you'll know why. But lastly, I and the rest of Texans fans and the Colts fans on here need to give credit to the other team where credit is due. Yes the Colts are good and the Texans are gonna have their hands full. Though, the Colts gotta also give it to the Texans. We're no longer the doormat or laughing stock of the league, even if your record against us would say otherwise. Of course, we're all titled to our opinions and I/we should expect homerism in our opinions of our team.


Anyhow, here's for nothing less than an injury free, competitive game come Sunday.


Stay classy Colts fans. You can expect the same from us.(Well most of us)

[Texansneedhelp]

OK.

That proves that the Patriots have been more successful than the Colts this decade.

Doesn't mean Brady is better than Manning.

50tds in a season, 6tds in a quarter. He has put up some numbers Manning can't touch. They will both be in the hall of fame but saying Peyton is better than Brady is like saying Marino is better than Montana

[korvac]

Marino is better than Montana, there I said it

[Whiskeyrbl]

And the Colts are a much better team than last year too.

But let's just ignore that.

Point may be we have not seen enough of the Colts to make a determination if they are better than last year or not. But we do know that the Texans are. With that being said this ought to be a really good game especially since our starting QB and #1 reciever will both be in this game unlike the past two years.

[korvac]

Point may be we have not seen enough of the Colts to make a determination if they are better than last year or not. But we do know that the Texans are. With that being said this ought to be a really good game especially since our starting QB and #1 reciever will both be in this game unlike the past two years.

That's not a fair comparison since the colts are continually good they don't have as much room for improvement.

[Whiskeyrbl]

That's not a fair comparison since the colts are continually good they don't have as much room for improvement.

Well let me call Goodell so he can shine that trophy up and go ahead and bring it to ya. Guess we just need to cancel the SB.

[ColtinIraq]

50tds in a season, 6tds in a quarter. He has put up some numbers Manning can't touch. They will both be in the hall of fame but saying Peyton is better than Brady is like saying Marino is better than Montana

He can't touch? What are you smoking? Whose record of 49 do you think he broke. 6 TDs in a quarter from a team that quit - and called timeout with 49 seconds left to try for yet another TD pass - classy. But then, when Brady did break the season TD record for a season it's pretty well documented the Patriots were trying to run up the score on every team they played and never took Tommy Boy out of the games not to mention about 100 more pass attempts - again classy.

When all is said and done during a career, Brady won't even be seen in the rear view mirror.

[korvac]

Wasn't my point. Point was that it's easy to see the Texans are much better than before. You say you haven't seen enough of the colts to see if they are better, well how much better can they be than 7-0, if that's not enough, obviously they have previously set the bar pretty **** high.

[Whiskeyrbl]

He can't touch? What are you smoking? Whose record of 49 do you think he broke. 6 TDs in a quarter from a team that quit - and called timeout with 49 seconds left to try for yet another TD pass - classy. But then, when Brady did break the season TD record for a season it's pretty well documented the Patriots were trying to run up the score on every team they played and never took Tommy Boy out of the games not to mention about 100 more pass attempts - again classy.

When all is said and done during a career, Brady won't even be seen in the rear view mirror.

That is true, and they will compare them for years and the fact will always come out that Brady has 3 rings and Peyton has but 1.

[ColtinIraq]

That is true, and they will compare them for years and the fact will always come out that Brady has 3 rings and Peyton has but 1.

So far. By the way, it's the Patriots who have three rings not Brady.

[korvac]

That is true, and they will compare them for years and the fact will always come out that Brady has 3 rings and Peyton has but 1.

Exactly, the rings make the player. I get tired of all these idiots that try and say Barry sanders was better than Ahman Green or that Marino was better than Dilfer. Those people have no idea what makes a football player great, talent has nothing to do with it, only jewelry. I mean, everyone knows Charles Haley is the greatest football player of all time regardless of position because he's the only 1 in history with 5 rings.

Oh wait....

[Whiskeyrbl]

Wrong again I believe if you read the articles from these three SB's you will see Brady was QB in all the wins. Dam guy do you do any research or just spout off what sounds good to you?


Super Bowl XXXVI was an American football game played on February 3, 2002 at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana to decide the National Football League (NFL) champion following the 2001 regular season. The American Football Conference (AFC) champion New England Patriots (14–5) win their first Super Bowl by defeating the National Football Conference (NFC) champion St. Louis Rams (16–3), 20–17, as kicker Adam Vinatieri made a game-winning 48-yard field goal as time expired. The Rams had been 14-point favorites to win the game, making the Patriots' victory one of the biggest upsets in Super Bowl history.

Patriots Quarterback Tom Brady, who completed 16 of 27 passes for 145 yards with a touchdown and marched his team down the field for the game winning score, was named Super Bowl MVP


Super Bowl XXXVIII was an American football game played on February 1, 2004 at Reliant Stadium in Houston, Texas to decide the National Football League (NFL) champion following the 2003 regular season. The National Football Conference (NFC) champion Carolina Panthers (14-6) almost won their first Super Bowl but were defeated by the American Football Conference (AFC) champion New England Patriots (17–2), 32–29.

New England quarterback Tom Brady was named Most Valuable Player for the second time in three years. He set a Super Bowl record for the most pass completions (32). Brady also recorded a 66.7 completion percentage (48 pass attempts), 354 passing yards, 3 touchdowns, 1 interception, and 12 rushing yards


[edit] Super Bowl XXXIX at Philadelphia Eagles
Main article: Super Bowl XXXIX
1 2 3 4 Total
Patriots 0 7 7 10 24
Eagles 0 7 7 7 21
at ALLTEL Stadium, Jacksonville, Florida

Game time: 6:30 p.m. EST
Game weather: 59 °F (15 °C), clear
TV announcers (Fox): Joe Buck (play-by-play), Troy Aikman (color commentator), Pam Oliver (sideline reporter), and Chris Myers (sideline reporter)
Referee: Terry McAulay
Game attendance: 78,125
On the first drive of the game, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb fumbled while being sacked by New England linebacker Willie McGinest, and the Patriots recovered the ball at Philadelphia's 34 yard line. Fortunately for the Eagles, coach Andy Reid's instant replay challenge overruled the fumble; officials ruled that McNabb had been down by contact before the ball came out of his hands. Later in the quarter after each team had punted twice, McNabb completed a 30-yard pass to Terrell Owens, with a roughing the passer penalty adding 9 yards, moving the ball inside the Patriots 20 yard line. However, linebacker Mike Vrabel sacked McNabb for a 16-yard loss on the next play. On the following play, the Eagles once again appeared to turn the ball over: McNabb's pass was intercepted in the end zone by Patriots defensive back Asante Samuel, but it was nullified by an illegal contact penalty on linebacker Roman Phifer, moving the ball back inside the 20 and giving the Eagles a first down. However, McNabb's second chance was wasted as he threw an interception to safety Rodney Harrison on the next play.

The Eagles defense then forced New England to a three-and-out on their ensuing possession, and Philadelphia got great field position by receiving the punt at the Patriots 45 yard line. But once again, they gave up another turnover: tight end L.J. Smith lost a fumble while being tackled by defensive back Randall Gay, and Samuel recovered the ball at the 38.

The Eagles defense once again forced New England to punt, and got the ball back at their own 19 yard line. Aided by a pair of completions from McNabb to receiver Todd Pinkston for gains of 17 and 40 yards, the Eagles drove 81 yards in 9 plays and scored on McNabb's 6-yard touchdown pass to Smith, taking a 7–0 lead with 9:55 left in the second quarter. It was the first time New England trailed during the entire postseason. On their ensuing drive, the Patriots moved the ball to the Eagles 4-yard line, mainly on plays by Corey Dillon, who caught two screen passes for 29 yards and rushed for 25. But quarterback Tom Brady fumbled the ball on a fake handoff and Philadelphia defender Darwin Walker recovered it. However, the Eagles could not take advantage of the turnover and had to punt after 3 plays. Eagles punter Dirk Johnson's punt went just 29 yards, giving the Patriots the ball at Philadelphia's 37 yard line. The Patriots then drove 37 yards to score on Brady's 4-yard pass to receiver David Givens with 1:10 remaining in the period, tying the game 7–7 by halftime. It was only the second halftime tie in Super Bowl history and the first time both of the game's first 2 quarters ended tied

[Whiskeyrbl]

Exactly, the rings make the player. I get tired of all these idiots that try and say Barry sanders was better than Ahman Green or that Marino was better than Dilfer. Those people have no idea what makes a football player great, talent has nothing to do with it, only jewelry. I mean, everyone knows Charles Haley is the greatest football player of all time regardless of position because he's the only 1 in history with 5 rings.

Oh wait....

You know that is the way the journalist do it. I can see it now ,they are comparing the two for an hour segment and the last thing out of Sapp's mouth is "But Brady has the three rings". I don't make the rules Just pass them on.

[korvac]

I don't think any journalist will ever flat out say Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning. They may say in some situations or that he is as good in his own way, but they will never say he's the better qb. Just like none of them will flat out say Joe Montana is better than Marino, they sidestep the issue by saying Montana is more successful and Marino is the better passer.

Then again the superbowl gap isn't nearly as wide between Peyton and Brady and the actual stat gap is wider, so if Montana/Marino are close, then Peyton must be better than Brady. Trent Dilfer has already gone on record as saying Peyton is the best to ever play the position, by time it's over more might as well. They are both great though, and we've been blessed to get to see 2 of the all time greats play.

[Whiskeyrbl]

I don't think any journalist will ever flat out say Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning. They may say in some situations or that he is as good in his own way, but they will never say he's the better qb. Just like none of them will flat our say Joe Montana is better than Marino, they sidestep the issue by saying Montana is the better leader and Marino is the better passer.

Then again the superbowl gap isn't nearly as wide between Peyton and Brady and the actual stat gap is wider, so if Montana/Marino are close, then Peyton must be better than Brady. They are both great though, and we've been blessed to get to see 2 of the all time greats play.

I never said they would say he was better.

[HJam72]

So, Eli is better than Peyton? ;)

One thing I do know is that the Colts can't be as good as the Pats because they don't run up the score. :D

[Schlauton]

Is there even a question?

Peyton Manning is 1000000000x the QB that Tom Brady is, if a backup who hasn't played since HIGH SCHOOL, can go out and lead the team to 11-5, **** then I could lead them to an 8-8 record.

[SUPERTANK]

So far. By the way, it's the Patriots who have three rings not Brady.

Same as saying the Colts have one ring not Peyton; does that sound good to your ears after saying you have best player? If not for Peyton, the colts would have 0 rings! Same can held true for Brady, Montana, Aikman, Elway, Big Ben just to name a few...

What the hell happened to Marino, Warren Moon? Why don't you explain to me why those 2 hall of famers do not have a ring; I saw Moon bust and bust every year after making the playoffs year after year and I fully blame him for losing even to a old Montana coming back as a chief. Some QB's just have a nose for not only getting to the big show, but winning it! Big Ben already has more rings then Peyton.

My point is I have seen the Colts bust and bust year after year with only one ring to show for it, he should have more rings period!

Wonder why Jim Kelly is never talked about? 4 back to back Super Bowls with no rings = a shame!

I rooted for you guys to beat the Patriots and the Steelers but no, Peyton Cracked and let those cocky *******s go on to the big show!

If not for Eli, Brady would have 4 rings

[korvac]

So it's Peytons fault the Colts lost but it's Eli's fault the Pats lost, not Brady? Sound logic. Superbowls are team accomplishments and most Colts fans will begrudgingly admit that the Pats were the better team win they beat us. That has a minimal bearring on who is the better qb. I mean honestly, Ahman Green is better than Barry Sanders if you only take rings into consideration.

[SUPERTANK]

So it's Peytons fault the Colts lost but it's Eli's fault the Pats lost, not Brady? Sound logic. Superbowls are team accomplishments and most Colts fans will begrudgingly admit that the Pats were the better team win they beat us. That has a minimal bearring on who is the better qb. I mean honestly, Ahman Green is better than Barry Sanders if you only take rings into consideration.


Yes, IMO i think it was Peytons fault the colts lost and i think it Was Eli that beat the Pats! If not for that throw to Plaxico burress, the Giants loose!

Barry Sanders and Ahman Green are RB's; not QB's...

Ahman happen to have the better QB :) are you starting to see the light now?

[korvac]

Your twisting logic around 2 different directions at the same time. So no I don't see the logic, I see a desperate attempt at making a point that's not there. I get it though, Manning's been laying a beatdown on your team since it formed and you're upset.

[SUPERTANK]

It does not bother me in the least bit that Peyton has beat the Texans in every game because the Texans have been the inferior team with a inferior QB

Carr set the Texans so far back its not even funny, Schaub is turning things around...

Hopefully we see Schaub lead the Texans to a victory over your precious Peyton tomorrow and many more! If you guys did not have Peyton; just think where the colts would be? Sure, its a team game but QB play is huge in the W vs L ratio

The QB that plays better tomorrow should end up winning, hopefully our D locks down Peyton or he is having a off day otherwise you guys win because yes; I do think Peyton is better then Schaub

[korvac]

Well you still got an inferior QB, but I give you guys the edge on the ground. Defense is a push. Should be an entertaining game.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Inferior QB?! What?! Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree.

Among all NFL QBs:

7th in QB rating
T-1st in Pass Attempts
5th in Completion Percentage
1st in Yardage
3rd in Yards/Game
T-1st in Pass TDs


David Carr could never sniff those #s.

[ManningHimself]

Inferior QB?! What?! Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree.

Among all NFL QBs:

7th in QB rating Manning is Second
T-1st in Pass Attempts You havent had the bye yet
5th in Completion Percentage Manning is first
1st in Yardage Again, bye?
3rd in Yards/Game Manning is First
T-1st in Pass TDs Manning will pass Schaub this Sunday...in one less game.(Remember, you havent had your bye yet!)


David Carr could never sniff those #s.

Inferior to Manning...YES!!!! Doesn't Manning lead in all these stats? And how can Schaub be 1st in yardage but 3rd in yds per game? Does that make sence? Oh yeah, you haven't had your bye week yet.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Inferior to Manning...YES!!!! Doesn't Manning lead in all these stats? And how can Schaub be 1st in yardage but 3rd in yds per game? Does that make sence? Oh yeah, you haven't had your bye week yet.

We werent comparing Manning and Schaub. No brainer, duh, Manning is better and always will be. The poster said we were stuck with Carr, who was a inferior QB. Korvac said we still have a inferior QB in Schaub. IMO no we dont. Schaub is way better and as I said, Carr could never sniff those #s. And it makes sense. Matt Schaub has thrown the most total yardage all season long. He can also be 3rd in ypg. Makes perfect sense. And yeah I know, our bye is next week.

PS: No matter great you think Peyton may be, no he doesnt lead NFL QBs in everything. Just give credit where credit it due. Schaub is one of the top QBs.

[korvac]

I thought he said last time we met you had the inferior quarterback but not this time in comparison to ours, that's why I posted you still do. If he meant Schaub is better than Carr then he's definitely correct in that.

[South Texan]

I think some folks on here are losing sight of the fact football is a TEAM sport. Stats are fun to look at, but sure are not the bottom line. Not even win's vs. losses. A team with a worse W-L record can still make it to the playoffs ahead of a team with a better record simply because they play in a weaker division. And if the 3 best teams happen to be in the same conference, then the Superbowl can easily end up with the best team playing the fourth best team. Looking at individual stats like a QB's can be even more misleading. A decent QB with a great O-Line, receivers and running backs playing mostly against teams with weak defenses will look better than a great QB playing with not as much talent around him against teams with good defenses. So while this may drive statisticians crazy, I love it because it's what makes football exciting.

On paper, Indy probably does have the edge for Sunday's game. But I've found it's pretty tough to put the intangibles on paper. And I think that's what is going to make the game an entertaining nail biter. Houston by 3.

[jdelasko]

I like our chances this Sunday, more than ever before... even with Owen Daniels out. If Moats turns in another great performance, and we put together a solid ground attack, we'll definitely put a lot of points on the board.

I like our front 7 on D this year. We won't stop Manning on every play, but I'd sure love to see him on the ground. I love those camera shots when the QB comes up with a bunch of turf stuck in his helmet.

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/83136936.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19303D83A05122D2369BC840C8A7BD5CADA B01E70F2B3269972

What a lovely site!

[ColtinIraq]

Wrong again I believe if you read the articles from these three SB's you will see Brady was QB in all the wins. Dam guy do you do any research or just spout off what sounds good to you?

And Adam Vinatieri was the kicker - get my drift?

[BayouCityBadGuy]

And what makes you think that the texans are at the colts level? What have they done to make people think that they are at the colts level? 5-3? Please. This is the first time over .500, and all of a sudden you want the whole world to praise you. :rolleyes:

Manning & the Colts have a lot more postseason failure than banners - We plan on being the team that runs the AFC South. The NFL is cyclical and years of mediocrity and 1st round picks have bread talent & hunger in Houston. Chemistry & consistency will be our next step - the one thing that makes Manning great. You're ONE player away from being 4 & 12 in a full season. No Manning - NO chance. You have to know that our front four WILL get pressure - after that it's in gods hands to keep your lynch pin safe!

The reason people are so high on Houston is that thing called the OBVIOUS - We blew multiple leads and fumbled into the endzone to drop one gm & a second loss had us with the ball - 5 minutes to go - at midfield - with every chance to get ahead and stay ahead. Did I mention that we stalled at the goaline in that loss as well? We're 5 & 3 with the painful understanding how close we were/are to being 7 & 1. If we take 2 from Indi than we'll win the South. Winning 2 from Indi is gonna be a real issue. What you think is much less important. I'm guessing your mother, father, teachers, and bosses have told you that before huh?