Game 1 vs Chefs news

[Sprtsfanatic]

LJ has agreed to new contract and is now back with the chefs training. Good news is they have no passing attack and he only has 2 games to try and get up to speed, bad news is he'll be in the backfield come season opener.

[Mitchelliswhite]

No biggie, put an extra guy in the box. Kubiak will force Croyle to try to win the game. Luckily, it's his first game ever.

[El Tejano]

No biggie, put an extra guy in the box. Kubiak will force Croyle to try to win the game. Luckily, it's his first game ever.
Those are the guys you have to watch out for. What we have to do is take care of our business on the offensive side and run the ball.

[Leebo]

No biggie, put an extra guy in the box.

I wonder why other teams didn't think to do that last year when he rushed for almost 1800 yards.

[joedinkle]

Dunta will lay the wood.

[Mitchelliswhite]

I wonder why other teams didn't think to do that last year when he rushed for almost 1800 yards.

Last year they had the 2nd highest rated quarterback. This year we will be playing against a quarterback that doesn't have a single start to his name. If you want to let them run on us and not make Croyle throw (a.k.a. Kansas City's game plan), then by all means Leebo that would be a loss. Kubiak is smarter than that, and will try to make Croyle win them the game.

[edo783]

Not that big a deal for an experienced RB to miss some training camp. I doubt he misses a beat when we see him.

[infantrycak]

Not that big a deal for an experienced RB to miss some training camp. I doubt he misses a beat when we see him.

Much more significant is the loss last year and this of two perennial pro-bowlers from his OL and the loss of a third due to suspension when they play us.

[HuttoKarl]

I wonder why other teams didn't think to do that last year when he rushed for almost 1800 yards.

Indy did in the playoffs and KC looked like the Browns.

[bsofa04]

Much more significant is the loss last year and this of two perennial pro-bowlers from his OL and the loss of a third due to suspension when they play us.

They also lost their starting DE Allen for the first 3 games. Combine that with the o-line losses and the Chiefs arn't going to be as competitve as lat year. They also lost their kick-*** LT Jordan Black. lol.

[bsofa04]

I agree with a previous post that Brodie Croyle is going to have to beat us through the air because our 1st string run defense is top 10 IMO. Our secondary is our weakest link, not surprising, so I'd imagine that Kubiak would force him to throw the ball.

From what I remember...Croyle's a fragile guy, who was constantly hurt in college. Generally those players don't last long in the NFL. One good hit on the guy could throw him in a funk.

[Vinny]

I think it is way too early to say that our run defense is going to be playoff caliber (top 10 is playoff caliber)....but it will be better than our pass defense from the early looks of things.

[Silver Oak]

Let's not talk this KC team down too much ok?

It'll tarnish a victory and embarass us in case of a loss.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Let's not talk this KC team down too much ok?

It'll tarnish a victory and embarass us in case of a loss.

Probably a smart move.

Seems like a lot of you guys already have talked yourselves into a Week 1 win. I can't wait to see how this turns out.....

[CypressTexan]

Probably a smart move.

Seems like a lot of you guys already have talked yourselves into a Week 1 win. I can't wait to see how this turns out.....

As a KC what is your opinion of Herm Edwards as a coach? How about the general feeling of Chiefs fans?

[OnTheWarpath58]

As a KC what is your opinion of Herm Edwards as a coach? How about the general feeling of Chiefs fans?

I'm very happy to have him as a coach. Contrary to popular belief, the team was left in pretty bad shape by Dick Vermiel. Our drafting during DV's era was poor to say the least, and it showed. The defense was AWFUL and the offense, while one of the best in the league, aged quickly.

Herm has turned the roster over in a short time. 5 of our draft picks from last year will be starters this year. That hasn't happened in ages in KC.

The guy is a proven winner. 4 trips to the playoffs in 6 years as a HC. And as a former player, the team buys into what he has to say....they know he's put the pads on himself, and he knows what it takes to win in the NFL.

Some fans in KC are upset because Herm has "dumbed down" the offense. They miss the circus offense of the DV era. But there were games we'd score 30 points and lose because the defense sucked. We're a much more balanced team now.

For the most part, the fans that don't like him are never gonna give him a chance. We lost Willie Roaf 2 weeks before the season started last year, lost Trent Green in the opener, and STILL made the playoffs. Yet people still complain.

Time will tell, but I think we're headed in the right direction. The youth on the team may force us to take a step back before we can step forward, but I think we'll be better in the long run for it.

I'm expecting a .500 season, give or take a game, even with Croyle as the starter......

[misterpc]

Warpath, u got any update for us on Wesley?

[Whiskeyrbl]

Hey warpath who is y'alls return man now that Hall is gone. Is he pretty good? I have'nt heard anything about him.

[CypressTexan]

I liek the way Herm conducts himself as a coach. Has that old school confident, it could be the ex-player thing. Its the same feel I get from Kubiak, Lovie Smith etc. There is something about them you just feel like they will win and when that feeling rubs of on the players you do win. I wish you guys the best of luck this year, after week 1 of course!

[OnTheWarpath58]

Warpath, u got any update for us on Wesley?

Last I heard, you guys called it off due to salary.

Your GM wanted to pay him the vet minimum for 1 year, and wasn't willing to trade a R5 or R6 pick.

Sounds like he wanted something for nothing, or didn't feel you guys needed him very badly.....

Personally, I'm glad. Not such a smart move to trade a guy to your opening opponent when you're starting a young QB.....

[houstonsportsfan09]

Probably a smart move.

Seems like a lot of you guys already have talked yourselves into a Week 1 win. I can't wait to see how this turns out.....




Many may have, theyre confident in their new and improved Texans team, but I dont and wont speak for others on this board. As for me, I never said this was an easy win or talked myself into it, but its just that the chiefs have concerns and problems. One of those which you guys solved today by signing Johnson which is huge for yall. Though you have o-line problems and a QB controversy or as some say QB competition. Your recievers are not great, Id say average,though not the best in the league. I just want to know what line Johnson is going to run behind. Black gone, Roaf retired, Shields retired, McIntosh injured. With Roaf and Shields gone, thats gonna hurt. And your defense is pretty good with Edwards, Johnson, Harris, Law, Surtain, and others who I probably missed.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Last I heard, you guys called it off due to salary.

Your GM wanted to pay him the vet minimum for 1 year, and wasn't willing to trade a R5 or R6 pick.

Sounds like he wanted something for nothing, or didn't feel you guys needed him very badly.....

Personally, I'm glad. Not such a smart move to trade a guy to your opening opponent when you're starting a young QB.....


We wanted him, but I agree I dont know why we didnt give up a 6th, but why wouldnt Wesley sign for a VM contract. Hes not no young stud. There were disagreements on both sides. We didnt want to give up the 6th round pick and Wesley wouldnt have signed for the VM, so therefor no trade and no point in trading for him if he wasnt going to sgin.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Hey warpath who is y'alls return man now that Hall is gone. Is he pretty good? I have'nt heard anything about him.

WR Jeff Webb will probably be the kickoff returner. He stepped in for Hall last year and did a pretty good job.

The punt returning duties are up for grabs between CB Justin Phinesee and WR Ean Randolph. Both guys have looked decent, but it would be tough taking either one of them because neither are strong enough at their main positions to be worthy of a roster spot.

[misterpc]

bad news about Wesley, although I didnt want to give up a pick for him either. say warpath what are your thoughts on my man Kyle Turley?

[OnTheWarpath58]

We wanted him, but I agree I dont know why we didnt give up a 6th, but why wouldnt Wesley sign for a VM contract. Hes not no young stud. There were disagreements on both sides. We didnt want to give up the 6th round pick and Wesley wouldnt have signed for the VM, so therefor no trade and no point in trading for him if he wasnt going to sgin.

If you were a guy with 9 INT's in the past couple of years, would you sign for the vet minimum?

:D

[houstonsportsfan09]

Yeah thats true, but hes obviously not good enough if he lost his job to 2 other safeties, and heck I might as well sign for VM, Id be starting here in Houston if I was Wesley. He can be a backup I guess, doesnt really matter to me.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Many may have, theyre confident in their new and improved Texans team, but I dont and wont speak for others on this board. As for me, I never said this was an easy win or talked myself into it, but its just that the chiefs have concerns and problems. One of those which you guys solved today by signing Johnson which is huge for yall. Though you have o-line problems and a QB controversy or as some say QB competition. Your recievers are not great, Id say average,though not the best in the league. I just want to know what line Johnson is going to run behind. Black gone, Roaf retired, Shields retired, McIntosh injured. With Roaf and Shields gone, thats gonna hurt. And your defense is pretty good with Edwards, Johnson, Harris, Law, Surtain, and others who I probably missed.

There is no QB controversy. Croyle will be and should be the starter.

We are weak at receiver, no doubt. Hopefully Dwayne Bowe will help the group.

The line was a concern last year, and LJ still ran for over 1700 yards. John Welbourne will step in for Shields and do solid job. He's no all-pro, but he'll be solid. Kyle Turley will likely win the RT spot, he's finally bck to his normal playing weight and supposedly has his back issues behind him. McIntosh is an upgrade over Black, and there is recent word he may be back for the opener. Before he comes back though, the LT spot concerns me.

And FWIW, my comments were not a shot at anyone, I can appreciate optimism, and you guys have reason to be optimistic. But in all reality, you guys have a lot of question marks as well.

Again, I expect a great game. And I'll be there in person to see it unfold...

[Whiskeyrbl]

WR Jeff Webb will probably be the kickoff returner. He stepped in for Hall last year and did a pretty good job.

The punt returning duties are up for grabs between CB Justin Phinesee and WR Ean Randolph. Both guys have looked decent, but it would be tough taking either one of them because neither are strong enough at their main positions to be worthy of a roster spot.

Thanx for the info.

[OnTheWarpath58]

I liek the way Herm conducts himself as a coach. Has that old school confident, it could be the ex-player thing. Its the same feel I get from Kubiak, Lovie Smith etc. There is something about them you just feel like they will win and when that feeling rubs of on the players you do win. I wish you guys the best of luck this year, after week 1 of course!

Thanks, and same to you. Fans like you are the reason the wife and I decided to make our annual road game Houston instead of Chicago.....which is only 4 hours away and an easy drive. We expect a great football atmosphere, minus the beer showers and flying keys/change.

[houstonsportsfan09]

There is no QB controversy. Croyle will be and should be the starter.
We are weak at receiver, no doubt. Hopefully Dwayne Bowe will help the group.

The line was a concern last year, and LJ still ran for over 1700 yards. John Welbourne will step in for Shields and do solid job. He's no all-pro, but he'll be solid. Kyle Turley will likely win the RT spot, he's finally bck to his normal playing weight and supposedly has his back issues behind him. McIntosh is an upgrade over Black, and there is recent word he may be back for the opener. Before he comes back though, the LT spot concerns me.

And FWIW, my comments were not a shot at anyone, I can appreciate optimism, and you guys have reason to be optimistic. But in all reality, you guys have a lot of question marks as well.

Again, I expect a great game. And I'll be there in person to see it unfold...



No QB controversy? Thats good to know, its coming from a Chiefs fan that actually knows and hears from KC media and what not, but I said there was because all Ive been hearing is there is a battle going on and Huard was the frontrunner or going to be the starter.

[OnTheWarpath58]

No QB controversy? Thats good to know, its coming from a Chiefs fan that actually knows and hears from KC media and what not, but I said there was because all Ive been hearing is there is a battle going on and Huard was the frontrunner or going to be the starter.

My personal opinion is that there is a "competition" for the media's benefit, and maybe even to see how the 2 QB's react.

They signed Huard in the offseason to backup money. Traded Trent Green. Herm Edwards MO is to play young players. I think the plan all along was to start Croyle unless he looked overwhelmed in camp/preseason games.

Starting Huard may be the idea if all you're concerned about is winning RIGHT NOW. But I think the Chiefs want to know if they have their QB of the Future in Croyle. And the only way to find out is to play him.

I think Croyle is the better QB anyway. He can make throws Damon can't. He'll make mistakes, I'm sure, but in my opinion, it's worth it for the future of the franchise.

Plus, Huard has a calf injury that hasn't progressed.....not that that would have ultimately decided anything.....

[CypressTexan]

Thanks, and same to you. Fans like you are the reason the wife and I decided to make our annual road game Houston instead of Chicago.....which is only 4 hours away and an easy drive. We expect a great football atmosphere, minus the beer showers and flying keys/change.

I am a die hard supporter of my Houston sports teams as are most of the posters on this board. I was born and raised in H-town but travel way to much for work but it allows me to go to allot of games in other cities, not just football. I can say with allot of pride Houston fans for all their bad reputataion about band wagons and complaining are some of the most if not the most hospitable fans in the country! I love our teams but at the end of the day being a good citizen and fan is what is most important.

[win1soon]

BUT i can't resist saying that, I don't think Carr could have beat the Chefs.

[OnTheWarpath58]

I am a die hard supporter of my Houston sports teams as are most of the posters on this board. I was born and raised in H-town but travel way to much for work but it allows me to go to allot of games in other cities, not just football. I can say with allot of pride Houston fans for all their bad reputataion about band wagons and complaining are some of the most if not the most hospitable fans in the country! I love our teams but at the end of the day being a good citizen and fan is what is most important.

Which is why we picked Houston.

Win or lose, I'm sure we'll have a GREAT time.

Are there any good post-game bars near Reliant?

[kenshinshinobi]

The only news im gone hear is HOUSTON TEXANS upset Kansas Chiefs PERIOD.

Comprende hombre?

[houstonsportsfan09]

Word is now that Larry Johnson wont be ready for Week 1 against us. As if hes going to play, I dont know.


"KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- A 25-day holdout helped make Larry Johnson the most highly paid player in Kansas City Chiefs history.

The downside is the Pro Bowl running back doesn't think he'll be ready for a full role in the season opener.

Asked Wednesday if he thought he'd be 100 percent ready by Sept. 9 when the Chiefs open at Houston, Johnson said, "No, it'll take a little bit more than that."

"Obviously, coaches are going to do a great job trying to get me on track to where week two or week three of the season I can hit my full stride," he said. "I'm going to try pick up as fast as I can."

The 27-year-old Johnson signed a five-year contract extension on Tuesday, taking him through 2012. The deal includes a guaranteed $19 million and he will receive $27.7 million in the first three years of the extension.

After working out twice a day in Arizona while his teammates went through training camp in River Falls, Wis., Johnson appears to be in top shape.

Many think that taking off during camp and the first three exhibition games could prove beneficial after Johnson carried an NFL-record 416 times last year.

"What I know about myself is I've never been a fast starter coming out of the blocks in a season," he said. "I've always been -- the last eight games is when I really turn it on. So I'm going to push myself as hard as I can to try to even it out."

Now, with the contract out of the way, Johnson and the Chiefs can turn their attention to the season.

Though he expresses doubt, Johnson isn't ready to completely rule out being at full speed for the opener.

"It all depends on how I'm feeling. Of course, the adrenaline takes over," he said. "You're excited about playing. So we'll see. It all depends on what type of game we'll get ourselves into.

"It will come in due time. My legs are as fresh as can be right now. It will all help me when it comes to the last week of the season." "




http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-chiefs-johnson&prov=ap&type=lgns

[OnTheWarpath58]

Word is now that Larry Johnson wont be ready for Week 1 against us. As if hes going to play, I dont know.


"KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- A 25-day holdout helped make Larry Johnson the most highly paid player in Kansas City Chiefs history.

The downside is the Pro Bowl running back doesn't think he'll be ready for a full role in the season opener.

Asked Wednesday if he thought he'd be 100 percent ready by Sept. 9 when the Chiefs open at Houston, Johnson said, "No, it'll take a little bit more than that."

"Obviously, coaches are going to do a great job trying to get me on track to where week two or week three of the season I can hit my full stride," he said. "I'm going to try pick up as fast as I can."

The 27-year-old Johnson signed a five-year contract extension on Tuesday, taking him through 2012. The deal includes a guaranteed $19 million and he will receive $27.7 million in the first three years of the extension.

After working out twice a day in Arizona while his teammates went through training camp in River Falls, Wis., Johnson appears to be in top shape.

Many think that taking off during camp and the first three exhibition games could prove beneficial after Johnson carried an NFL-record 416 times last year.

"What I know about myself is I've never been a fast starter coming out of the blocks in a season," he said. "I've always been -- the last eight games is when I really turn it on. So I'm going to push myself as hard as I can to try to even it out."

Now, with the contract out of the way, Johnson and the Chiefs can turn their attention to the season.

Though he expresses doubt, Johnson isn't ready to completely rule out being at full speed for the opener.

"It all depends on how I'm feeling. Of course, the adrenaline takes over," he said. "You're excited about playing. So we'll see. It all depends on what type of game we'll get ourselves into.

"It will come in due time. My legs are as fresh as can be right now. It will all help me when it comes to the last week of the season." "




http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-chiefs-johnson&prov=ap&type=lgns

He's definitely playing, he just may not be ready to tote the rock 30 times in the opener.

Which is fine, because we need to spread the ball around more this year anyway. Michael Bennett will probably be the 3rd down back for the opener. A lot can change, but based on what I've heard, I'd expect LJ to get 15-20 touches, with Bennett getting the rest.

He's dying to play right now. Within a half hour of arriving at Arrowhead yesterday, he took the elevator to Carl Peterson's office, signed the contract, took the elevator back down to the locker room, changed clothes, stretched on the elevator ride back up to the service entrance, caught a ride over to the practice facility, stepped right into a play, and on the next, caught a swing pass....which he took to the house.

Something tells me he'll be just fine come Week 1.

:D

[SuperstarII]

LJ has agreed to new contract and is now back with the chefs training. Good news is they have no passing attack and he only has 2 games to try and get up to speed, bad news is he'll be in the backfield come season opener.

LOL I just now recognized the spelling error in the title. I would hate to face the chefs and their sharp knives. :eek::D

[HydrOshocK]

L.J will be a gamer as the season goes on but he's right, he will probably not be completely ready for the opener which works to our favor. Any time a team's best player is rusty and/or touches the ball less that gives us an advantage.

Combined with the fact that Herm Edwards teams ALWAYS start out of the gate slow and get better as the season goes on, I have to like our chances.

The "Chefs" are serving us a rookie QB, rusty RB, and a makeshift offensive line.....I think I'll have dessert ;)

[TyrantTexan]

If our D-Line doesnt improve, the Chiefs would run all over us with Will Shields in the backfield. Even a Rookie QB can complete some passes when he has all day.

[HydrOshocK]

If our D-Line doesnt improve, the Chiefs would run all over us with Will Shields in the backfield. Even a Rookie QB can complete some passes when he has all day.

Our run D is pretty solid right now so I'm not real worried about their ground game as much as the pass. Coach K said they plan to get Orr and Anderson more involved in the pass rush. This next game against the Cowboys should give us a decent idea of what types of adjustments the coaches make. Hopefully we're able to get the kinks out of the D-kline between now and the opener. If we do that we will have a very solid team.

[infantrycak]

If our D-Line doesnt improve, the Chiefs would run all over us with Will Shields in the backfield.

Dude, Will Shields retired.

[Jwwillis1]

LOL I just now recognized the spelling error in the title. I would hate to face the chefs and their sharp knives. :eek::D

Reminds me of that old commercial:

"Great googly moogly"


sry didnt see ur post texanshonk. snickers commercial old man spells chef instead of chiefs in the end zone. Do i win something?

[SamerElmir]

Many may have, theyre confident in their new and improved Texans team, but I dont and wont speak for others on this board. As for me, I never said this was an easy win or talked myself into it, but its just that the chiefs have concerns and problems. One of those which you guys solved today by signing Johnson which is huge for yall. Though you have o-line problems and a QB controversy or as some say QB competition. Your recievers are not great, Id say average,though not the best in the league. I just want to know what line Johnson is going to run behind. Black gone, Roaf retired, Shields retired, McIntosh injured. With Roaf and Shields gone, thats gonna hurt. And your defense is pretty good with Edwards, Johnson, Harris, Law, Surtain, and others who I probably missed.

Law and Surtain are up there in age too, Johnson may have a field day against them, Allen is out, Edwards isn't bad but not convincing enough, Harris is good

[Yosarian]

Johnson's hold out is only going to help us win this opener.

Johnson IS the Chiefs. Someone said he wouldn't miss a beat. I disagree. Training camp is just as important for great players as for players who are on the bubble. This game is predicated on timing. A few inches here...one guy not on the same page...a second lapse in concentration....all it takes to turn a good play into a loss.

It is lucky for us he held out as long as he did. I wish it had been longer. There is no way he won't miss a beat. Without playing regularly and practicing with the team..he is behind.

And the Chiefs are not the Chiefs we saw last year or the year before. They have serious gaps on both sides of the ball. It all adds up to a season opener victory for The Texans.

[HydrOshocK]

Johnson's hold out is only going to help us win this opener.

Johnson IS the Chiefs. Someone said he wouldn't miss a beat. I disagree. Training camp is just as important for great players as for players who are on the bubble. This game is predicated on timing. A few inches here...one guy not on the same page...a second lapse in concentration....all it takes to turn a good play into a loss.

It is lucky for us he held out as long as he did. I wish it had been longer. There is no way he won't miss a beat. Without playing regularly and practicing with the team..he is behind.

And the Chiefs are not the Chiefs we saw last year or the year before. They have serious gaps on both sides of the ball. It all adds up to a season opener victory for The Texans.

good post. I won't go so far as to predict a victory just yet but the Chiefs have not looked very good so far this preseason, and Johnson's hold out didn't help them build any chemistry. Now they are saying he won't be 100% ready by the opener and will probably see less touches as a result. That's good for us. The less he touches the ball the better.

funny....I distinctly remembering a certain someone bashing me not too long ago about this subject...he doesn't believe another team's misfortunes and setbacks can have any significant impact for us. Where have you been Oh Wise One? Did you finally defect to the Panthers message board to cheer on your golden boy???

[misterpc]

Did anyone else see the Saints vs Cheifs?

KC got com-plete-ly dominated on both sides of the ball. The Saints secondary is the team weakness, but the Chiefs passing game managed to make them look rock solid. Croyle had a bad game, but it wasnt all his fault. The Chiefs WRs are, to put it respectfully, very underwhelming. Also the Saints D-line got good pressure (Will Smith was beating their LT consistantly), and it was too much for the inexperienced QB.

The Cheifs have good linebackers, they have Larry Johnson and Tony Gonzales. Thats about it. Their defense was helpless against the Saints offense (which is exusable), although to be fair they did make some big goal line stands against the run.

Checklist for success on opening day:
*Play aggressive on defense; get in Croyle's face and contain LJ best as possible*
*Do not turn ball over*
*Do not line up slow linebacker against Tony Gonzales*

[HydrOshocK]

Did anyone else see the Saints vs Cheifs?

KC got com-plete-ly dominated on both sides of the ball. The Saints secondary is the team weakness, but the Chiefs passing game managed to make them look rock solid. Croyle had a bad game, but it wasnt all his fault. The Chiefs WRs are, to put it respectfully, very underwhelming. Also the Saints D-line got good pressure (Will Smith was beating their LT consistantly), and it was too much for the inexperienced QB.

The Cheifs have good linebackers, they have Larry Johnson and Tony Gonzales. Thats about it. Their defense was helpless against the Saints offense (which is exusable), although to be fair they did make some big goal line stands against the run.

Checklist for success on opening day:
*Play aggressive on defense; get in Croyle's face and contain LJ best as possible*
*Do not turn ball over*
*Do not line up slow linebacker against Tony Gonzales*

I didn't get to see the game but I caught the highlights. The Chiefs got man handled by the Saints. Croyle had a horrible game. I hope Herm sticks to the game plan and lets him start against us.

B. Croyle 5/17 45yrds 0TDs 1INT

[HydrOshocK]

for anyone interested here are the stat sheets, recap, and highlights

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29485&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=PRE3

Warpath....you may want to look away ;)

[El Tejano]

I wonder if Huard is doing any better?

[OnTheWarpath58]

for anyone interested here are the stat sheets, recap, and highlights

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29485&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=PRE3

Warpath....you may want to look away ;)

Look away is right....I was there. :mad:

Croyle's stats have much more to do with terrible OL play and 7 WR/RB drops that were perfectly thrown balls. He made a mistake on the INT, tried to squeeze a ball into Kennison on an out route. He didn't get much help, if any last night.

The 1st team defense did exactly what I thought they would do against a kick-*** offense....bend but don't break. 2 goal line stands and 13 PA through 3 quarters. Sure, they gave up a TON of yards, but 13 points against a high-powered Saints offense....I can live with that, ESPECIALLY considering how much they were on the field thanks to our anemic offense.

I know this, you guys should be licking your chops right now. I think you're getting us at the best time possible. No Jared Allen, no Damion McIntosh, less than 100% LJ, no OL cohesion as of yet.

We've got 2 weeks, and I'm confident Herm can do it. Right now the only thing that REALLY scares me is the OL. They had looked decent last week against Miami, and came out last night and made the Saints D look like the Steel Curtain.

[OnTheWarpath58]

I wonder if Huard is doing any better?

Huard has had a calf injury he's been nursing the entire PS. He's had a setback and did not play last night.

[misterpc]

The goal line stands in last nights game I attribute to 2 things:

1. the Chiefs linebackers
2. the preseason


Chiefs LBs looked good pretty much all game, and especially at the goal line. However, if this was a real game situation Coach Payton would have found a way to get in. Instead of scoring a meaningless touchdown in preseason, he thought it was more important to test his offensive line. He called 4 straight rushing plays, which is out of character for him. He knew that his offense could score, but he wanted to see if the O-line and running game could do it by themselves without help from the passing game.

[kcwilson]

Regardless of who the QB is on the Chiefs, it doesn't change our need to pressure the QB.

I seem to recall allowing 22 or more straight completions by Mark Brunell last year. We made him look amazing.

And I will drop the Lee Evans bomb, yet again. The personnel hasn't changed all that much against the pass, and you can argue we are worse off without Earl. So we have a knack for making below average QBs look a lot better than they are.

The first game will definitely tell the store as to whether the mental makeup of this team is different than last year. Hopefully, the mindset is that we go out there, make plays, and take the control of the game from the get go - and more importantly, don't let up.