Team Negatives

[amazingandre]

Not to be a negative fan and all cuz i love our Texans a lot....but there are some things i Hate to see as a fan...

1) Our d line is no surprise here. They need to step up and make plays....Dont give me the "dude its only 2 pre-season games" crap either......cuz if u say that then you havent seen many other preseason games.....teams are layin the smack out there and puttin on tons of pressure....we are not and its sad to see

2) we need to improve our tds scored in the redzone....it wont cut it that field goal crap.....i like points dont get me wrong...we are just puttin up the wrong kind.....get some tds or we lose to high powered offenses such as indy and san diego....

3) our lbs suck in coverage...thats what i have concluded....i think the lack of pressure and the underneath help not bein there makes our secondary look bad....i think this is hurting us more than a safety at this point....we need to change sumthin here....i think it starts with the dline....the lbs worry about the run since the dline cant stop anyone...then that leaves the passing lanes wide open......

4) our run game got better dont get me wrong....but we need more if we want our playbook to work.....we do way too many play action for the rungame not to be efficient....come on guys step up


thoughts?

[Gamehorn]

Not to be a negative fan and all cuz i love our Texans a lot....but there are some things i Hate to see as a fan...

1) Our d line is no surprise here. They need to step up and make plays....Dont give me the "dude its only 2 pre-season games" crap either......cuz if u say that then you havent seen many other preseason games.....teams are layin the smack out there and puttin on tons of pressure....we are not and its sad to see

2) we need to improve our tds scored in the redzone....it wont cut it that field goal crap.....i like points dont get me wrong...we are just puttin up the wrong kind.....get some tds or we lose to high powered offenses such as indy and san diego....

3) our lbs suck in coverage...thats what i have concluded....i think the lack of pressure and the underneath help not bein there makes our secondary look bad....i think this is hurting us more than a safety at this point....we need to change sumthin here....i think it starts with the dline....the lbs worry about the run since the dline cant stop anyone...then that leaves the passing lanes wide open......

4) our run game got better dont get me wrong....but we need more if we want our playbook to work.....we do way too many play action for the rungame not to be efficient....come on guys step up


thoughts?

The run game will be better because of the change of pace of Dayne and Green. I don't know what to think about the LBs right now... I only saw 1 game (Chicago) and I was concentrating on D-rob. Our D-line definitely needs to get better (4 first rounders need some play...)

[cseafous]

Not to be a negative fan and all cuz i love our Texans a lot....but there are some things i Hate to see as a fan...

1) Our d line is no surprise here. They need to step up and make plays....Dont give me the "dude its only 2 pre-season games" crap either......cuz if u say that then you havent seen many other preseason games.....teams are layin the smack out there and puttin on tons of pressure....we are not and its sad to see

2) we need to improve our tds scored in the redzone....it wont cut it that field goal crap.....i like points dont get me wrong...we are just puttin up the wrong kind.....get some tds or we lose to high powered offenses such as indy and san diego....

3) our lbs suck in coverage...thats what i have concluded....i think the lack of pressure and the underneath help not bein there makes our secondary look bad....i think this is hurting us more than a safety at this point....we need to change sumthin here....i think it starts with the dline....the lbs worry about the run since the dline cant stop anyone...then that leaves the passing lanes wide open......

4) our run game got better dont get me wrong....but we need more if we want our playbook to work.....we do way too many play action for the rungame not to be efficient....come on guys step up


thoughts?


1. I think it is legit to say "dude its only 2 pre-season games." Chicago's d-line is way better than ours and they never touched our QB. I didn't see the Colts d-line lighting it up either. Do you think they won't get any sacks this season?

2. I think most of our tds will come from outside the red zone. Once we are a threat to run the ball well inside the twenty, then we will start scoring in short yardage situations. And beating Indy is not about outscoring them. It's about ball control and keeping them off the field (see last season's win).

3. Agree with this one. LBs not covering as well as they should. Pressure on the QB will help but only tighter coverage will prevent the three step drop and hit the underneath route plays.

4. amen

[Grid]

1. Yeah.

2. We havent opened up the playbook in the red zone. We have been very vanilla. This will improve in the regular season.

3. Any coverage problems we seem to have.. may or may not actually be a problem. Until we are getting pressure on the QB, its impossible to say if our coverage is good enough or not.

4. This is something that im not going to pass judgement on until we open the playbook and see our starters playing for 4 quarters. No we do not appear to have a dominant run game at this point.. but our passing game looks pretty nice, and when we get a rythme going, and our big backs start pounding the ball in the second half, we could see our "so-so" running game become the strength of our offense.

[HomeGrownTexan]

1. I think it is legit to say "dude its only 2 pre-season games." Chicago's d-line is way better than ours and they never touched our QB. I didn't see the Colts d-line lighting it up either. Do you think they won't get any sacks this season?

2. I think most of our tds will come from outside the red zone. Once we are a threat to run the ball well inside the twenty, then we will start scoring in short yardage situations. And beating Indy is not about outscoring them. It's about ball control and keeping them off the field (see last season's win).

3. Agree with this one. LBs not covering as well as they should. Pressure on the QB will help but only tighter coverage will prevent the three step drop and hit the underneath route plays.

4. amen

How many passes did Schaub throw, what 5 passes?

In there second game, Chicago's D played against the smartest QB with the fastest release in the game.........a QB that hardly gets sacked regardless if he has a rookie LT protecting him.

Also Chicago's Dline.......is PROVEN. The Texans Dline hasn't proven squat and they went up against a subpar Cardinals line with a journyman left tackle.

There is a great cause for concern. I've seen most of the preseason games and teams with good lines are applying great pressure

[ROUGHNECKS]

The lbs pass coverage should get better with the pass rush. Thats what gets ints not just getting sacks but making the QB hurry his passes. Thats why the d-line is in the spot light they fail, the defense will be bad and so far their play is a reason to worry at lease till they show they can push a pocket back into the QB. Before people start shouting "HEY IT'S ONLY PRESEASON" and their not that bad I agree but that's with the hope they show something before the season starts and if continues into the season I don't think they will be able to keep it up.

[kcwilson]

Look, a lot of people have been saying it for years and the team has started to build the way it should: from the interior lines on out.

The DL at this point is very sub-par compared to the rest of the league. I expected a little more pressure in the AZ game. Hopefully things change once we bring the threat of blitzing LBs, but if the DL doesn't get pressure, then there is no way our secondary can hang with the likes of a average receiving corp.

[Jwwillis1]

We will finally see some game planning and blitz packages against the Cowboys. I'm looking forward to seeing if it makes a diffrence. Im actually thinking we may blitz a LOT. Dallas blitzed Kub's old club Denver into submission last week. Denvers players were whining about it. Kubs may want to reciprocate.

[HomeGrownTexan]

I know its football, but I also thought what Dallas did was a little outragous and bush league. There is no need to bring everything including the kitchen sink during a "exhibition game", when both teams are just trying to evaluate talent and get through the game healthy.

I'm actually worried about playing Dallas next week, I pray we have no injuries.

[Jwwillis1]

I think we will be ready for their antics. We have film of the Denver game they don't have squat to go by to get ready for us (as far as blitzing packages). No way the Cowboys sneak up on the Texans Saturday. Dallas showed their hand last week. Seems ol Wade needs to build team confidence so he stacked the deck against Denver. The problem is they may have a false sence of security and confidence now.

[Jwwillis1]

Yikes OK


No blitzing lbrs until the front 4 produce on there own. We may not blitz the lbers this year. I guess Dallas had the right to blitz lbers last week cause they have a better front 4.

Let me ask this: If the front 4 are getting plenty of pressure why bring in the lbers? Doesn't this sound redundant? I can have pressure and 7 in the box. Why give up the lbers at all?

Answer the question: Why have a lbers blitz package if the front 4 are always getting it done?

[HomeGrownTexan]

i think blitzing lbs right now is the dumbest idea some of you fans have said yet.....our dline isnt handling there asignments and the lbs and dbs suffer as it is....so you want to blitz them and leave them a few guys short....what sense does this make? we need our front 4 to step up or get off the pot....this team WILL be held back from progression if these guys dont get their act together.....im sorry but this is rediculous dont you think.....53 million dollar dline and they are no where to being season ready at this point.

and if you think we have better chances at scoring outside the redzone you shouldnt be surprised if we are no good this year....teams that like you say win using ball control only win if they GET TDS IN THE REDZONE....therefore we need to score tds not field goals more often.....

The redzone offense is the LAST of my worries. We have a great #1 W.O., one of the best young TEs, a savy QB, and a proven vet RB.......... the longer the first string gets to play the more successful they'll be in the redzone. Plus this isn't the time of the year when offenses are firing on all cylinders.

[Jwwillis1]

Its pointless really. Watch Kubs blitz lbers Saturday and continue your rants about how "dumb" we all are and how bad our D is.

[B420tx]

The potential LB blitz changes the OL blocking assignments and spreads the OL thin and makes them react more then attack.

[Jwwillis1]

The potential LB blitz changes the OL blocking assignments and spreads the OL thin and makes them react more then attack.

yup yup I can't wait! I don't care who gets the sacks as long as were getting em and stoppin drives.

[B420tx]

I'm not saying to blitz on every play. I look at football as the supreme chess match. Every play has a bunch of little parts that work into how well the play goes for either team. Just showing a blitz, but dropping into coverage is important too, but that doesn't work if they know you won't blitz anyway or that they can already handle the blitz. These little things are why I like football to begin with.

[Jwwillis1]

i bet we will get sacks and we will blitz a ton....butat the end of the day when we gave up 250-300 p****ing yards and got one sack....u tell me what makes more sense to do


My crystal ball isn't quite as clear. My model requires regular season games to see that far into the future.

[cseafous]

How many passes did Schaub throw, what 5 passes?

In there second game, Chicago's D played against the smartest QB with the fastest release in the game.........a QB that hardly gets sacked regardless if he has a rookie LT protecting him.

Also Chicago's Dline.......is PROVEN. The Texans Dline hasn't proven squat and they went up against a subpar Cardinals line with a journyman left tackle.

There is a great cause for concern. I've seen most of the preseason games and teams with good lines are applying great pressure

I think that was my point. Chicago's d-line is proven and yet they have not made any real noise in the preseason. I understand you want to see our guys light up the QB. No arguments here. But just because it has not happened does not mean it is not going to happen.

Sacks happen for a lot of reasons. O-linemen, TEs and RBs miss assignments. QBs hold the ball too long or leave the pocket when they don't have to and run right into a defender. Guys miss on chips and double-teams. Starting linemen get hurt and their backup is not as good. At least one of these is going to happen during each game and someone will take advantage of it. Then there are the good old fashion "I whipped you and your QB is now my trophy" sacks. Those are the ones we are waiting for and they will come in time.

[NBT]

lol...He names the thread Team Negatives and then types he is not being negative.......DUH! Lighten up it is only preseason, and that is precicely why we play these games.

With the vanilla defenses we have been showing how in the heck can you set there and say the LBs are not covering? Amazing X-Ray vision you have. The DBs have made several ints. so that is what you should be applauding, instead of knocking the best set of LBs we have ever had.

[Yosarian]

Well..yes we all know we need better pass coverage, so i won't go into that. I totally agree there.

But as far as red zone.....i agree with those who have said..we are not showing our good stuff so our opponents can prepare.

But we have some red zone plays. I want to share this because even though it was the second team out there...this QB bootleg option pass to putzier was FLAWLESS in it's execution against Chicago and fooled 10 of their 11 guys on the field.

look at the fake handoff..the RB clutching the fake ball....the line pushing left

etcetc.....There is no team in the nfl that could have run this play better. It was executed with perfection. And this is our second unit. This should calm the red zone arguement some. If our second unit is this focused and performing difficult trick plays like this where everyone does their job to perfection..i feel strongly that our coaching staff andf our players are very much focused for the upcoming season and we shouldn't be worrying about kicking field goals every time. I think once the reg season kicks off.....the red zone percentage will not be an issue with the Texans this year!

Sorry about the poor quality ..i had to optimize it a ton to fit the 97 kb file limit.

[Cowboy-Blues]

The run game will be better because of the change of pace of Dayne and Green. I don't know what to think about the LBs right now... I only saw 1 game (Chicago) and I was concentrating on D-rob. Our D-line definitely needs to get better (4 first rounders need some play...)

I'm not here to troll but seriously, don't plan on rushing over 75 yards againts the Boys. You guys better find a way to get Ware under control. He was running loose like no one was even trying to block him against the Broncos. Why didn't he get any sacks? Because Cutler was watching him at all times. I can't wait for the game. Good luck guys, I hope you found your answer at QB. Get that O line straightened out and things could work out for you. Hopefully both teams can represent Texas in the near future. Wouldn't it be nice to have 2 of the best teams in the league?

[HydrOshocK]

I'm not here to troll but seriously, don't plan on rushing over 75 yards againts the Boys. You guys better find a way to get Ware under control. He was running loose like no one was even trying to block him against the Broncos. Why didn't he get any sacks? Because Cutler was watching him at all times. I can't wait for the game. Good luck guys, I hope you found your answer at QB. Get that O line straightened out and things could work out for you. Hopefully both teams can represent Texas in the near future. Wouldn't it be nice to have 2 of the best teams in the league?

Our first team unit has not given up a sack on Schaub yet. So far so good.

[Cowboy-Blues]

Our first team unit has not given up a sack on Schaub yet. So far so good.

Nothing is more conforting than an improved O line? That's how the boys have been the last few (er 8 or 9) seasons. Everyone seems to think our O line has finally made some progress. Romo got sacked once I think. He also threw 1 interception but that was because Miles Austin slipped on his cut and couldn't beat the CB to the ball. It should be a good game. I'm curious to see how your new QB does. I have heard alot about him but haven't got a chance to watch him play yet.

[HydrOshocK]

Nothing is more conforting than an improved O line? That's how the boys have been the last few (er 8 or 9) seasons. Everyone seems to think our O line has finally made some progress. Romo got sacked once I think. He also threw 1 interception but that was because Miles Austin slipped on his cut and couldn't beat the CB to the ball. It should be a good game. I'm curious to see how your new QB does. I have heard alot about him but haven't got a chance to watch him play yet.

Schaub has been very impressive thus far IMO. He is light years ahead of David Carr in the mental aspect of the game, which is exactly what we needed. He has been doing an excellent job of reading coverage and hitting the open man. The ball is out on time and on target so our O-line doesn't have to hold their pass blocks near as long (they still need to work on opening up lanes for our RBs but I think that will come).

Overall I've been extremely pleased with the job that Schaub has been doing. We'll see how he performs against your Cowboys this weekend. I suspect they'll bring a lot more pressue than we've seen so far. Watch for a lot of check downs to the TEs and RBs....we like to keep the defense honest that way and chew up the clock.

[Jeff]

I think the O-line is still a negative

The De line needs to show up something

(those two based off of pre season, not sure our O-line has faced some things, and not sure if our D line is going full tilt with just doing their job)

I am tired of OLD Packers, I am pretty sure Flanigan and Ahman will be injured by week3 or 4, I hope not

Will the lack of a #2 hurt us? Can Owen Daniels who has finally given our QB a target over the middle be that #2?

I agree with the Red zone, I think Owen on the play action is nice, but how long before teams figure that out and stay at home leaving Schaub to either run and get creamed or nothing to throw to?

Other than Demeco....

Our DBs are pretty bad! Even Dunta gets burned more than I like. Sure I like him popping someone, but Id rather him not get burned on double moves so much

If Stanley is our punter, then we have a NEGATIVE there.

[Gamehorn]

The only Negatives that I saw in the Chicago game (the only game I will probably see all season) was that we weren't running the ball very well, and the defense gave up 8 straight completions to Grossman. I think well of him, but we can't give that up on a regular basis unless it is Carr type throws... Besides that it didn't look like we had that many negatives on the team, and quite a few positive surprises...