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4Texans
09-19-2007, 12:49 PM
Aren't we supposed to be under the cap next year like $20-25 mill, after some of the dead money gets wiped off??????

houston_oilers
09-19-2007, 12:51 PM
That would be sweet

texansturningthecorner
09-19-2007, 12:52 PM
Aren't we supposed to be under the cap next year like $20-25 mill, after some of the dead money gets wiped off??????

i think it is like 30

rdbrokaw
09-19-2007, 12:53 PM
That's the current situation ($20 - 25M), with Rick Smith at the helm we will use that money wisely and pick up some good players next year!

3andOUT
09-19-2007, 12:55 PM
Starting to see more and more dividends from smart and sound managment choices. This organization is doing it the right way. We are only gonna get better

4Texans
09-19-2007, 01:46 PM
That's the current situation ($20 - 25M), with Rick Smith at the helm we will use that money wisely and pick up some good players next year!

That's what I thought. I don't want to think too far ahead....... but since it looks like we're going to have a great season the FA talent for next year will really be looking seriously at joining the Texans.

autch14
09-19-2007, 01:51 PM
We are gonna have like 30 mil to spend

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/cap2008.html

Wolf123
09-19-2007, 02:26 PM
Ye, texans will have one of the top amounts to spend, and with a good season the texans will have a shot at Lance Briggs, Asante Samuels.

Mustyzulu1979
09-19-2007, 02:55 PM
Expect a good cb or safty and maybe a top wr.

Marcus
09-19-2007, 03:05 PM
Those marquee players like Briggs and Samuel will be way overpriced.

Expect Rick Smith to get a couple of quality players with that money, but it will be players that come in to compete, not have the starting job handed to them.

3andOUT
09-19-2007, 03:12 PM
Those marquee players like Briggs and Samuel will be way overpriced.

Expect Rick Smith to get a couple of quality players with that money, but it will be players that come in to compete, not have the starting job handed to them.

I agree, he will use that money conservatively to bring in team guys that can fight for a starting job, not just have it handed to them. The thing I love about RS is that he continues to bring guys in to stir competition and keep guys hungry. Teams are built through the draft and FA's are brought in to compliment youth.

ubecool454
09-19-2007, 03:33 PM
Aren't we supposed to be under the cap next year like $20-25 mill, after some of the dead money gets wiped off??????

i heard it was more like 36 million under the cap.

ubecool454
09-19-2007, 03:39 PM
Ye, texans will have one of the top amounts to spend, and with a good season the texans will have a shot at Lance Briggs, Asante Samuels.

i wouldn't take lance briggs , they linebacking core is solid. I would get draft another young linebacker out of a SEC school. I wouldn't bring Asante in and pay him more than Dunta. Next year fred bennett should be starting.

Battle-Red
09-19-2007, 03:40 PM
It's supposed to be around 30 million with the yearly cap raise and the dead money comming off the books, but before resigning any current players and 08 draft picks.

Super Mario Bros
09-19-2007, 04:05 PM
Break it down like this.

The Texans have 33 players on contract through 2008 and on.

Andre Johnson, Matt Schaub, Morlon Greenwood, Ahman Green, Chester Pitts, Anthony Weaver, Mike Flanagan, Mario Williams, Dunta Robinson, Jeb Putzier, Steve McKinney, Kevin Walter, Jordan Black, Shawn Barber, Sage Rosenfels, Kris Brown, DeMarcus Faggins, Travis Johnson, Vonta Leach, Jamar Fletcher, DeMeco Ryans, Ephraim Salaam, Jeff Zgonina, Jameel Cook, Bryan Pittman, Charles Spencer, Eric Winston, Jacoby Jones, Owen Daniels, Fred Bennett, Brandon Harrison, Kasey Studdard, Zach Diles

That brings the Payroll to $73,307,415

Dead Money for 2008:
Domanick Williams 2,600,000
Kailee Wong 2,334,000
2007 Rookies 70,000

That brings the Payroll to $78,311,415. Which is about $37,680,000 under the NFL Salary Cap.

Unrestricted Free Agents:
Charlie Anderson, Mark Bruener, Ron Dayne, Danny Clark, Andre Davis, Von Hutchins, Roc Alexander, N.D. Kalu. Cedric Killings, Shantee Orr, Glenn Earl, Jason Simmons, Matt Turk, Fred Weary

(Matt Turk will definately be re-signed)


Restricted Free Agents:
Samkon Gado, Anthony Maddox, Jerome Mathis


They'll use about 5 roster spots from the draft.
I think they'll have one big free agent signing at either CB or S.


Also I think Dunta Robinson will recieve an extension since he'll be a FA after 2008.

fdknuckles
09-19-2007, 05:31 PM
Looking at the crazy money that Samuels is going to want next year do you think we'd be better off looking at a RB or OL in free agency over a top money CB?
What ever we don't get in FA would have to be found in the draft.

Who do you think would come cheaper (relatively of course) Turner or Samuels?

fredthered66
09-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Looking at the crazy money that Samuels is going to want next year do you think we'd be better off looking at a RB or OL in free agency over a top money CB?
What ever we don't get in FA would have to be found in the draft.

Who do you think would come cheaper (relatively of course) Turner or Samuels?

Samuels is a proven commodity who plays at a more valuable position (a lot more good RB's then CB's), so he would cost a lot more, and I doubt we go anywhere near him. I would rather we give some of that money to resigning Drob and continue to build through the draft and mid-priced FA's.

Zagen30
09-19-2007, 05:47 PM
i wouldn't take lance briggs , they linebacking core is solid. I would get draft another young linebacker out of a SEC school. I wouldn't bring Asante in and pay him more than Dunta. Next year fred bennett should be starting.

QFT. The way that Demeco played last year and the way that Patrick Willis is playing this year (not great but looking pretty good, didn't he force a fumble in his first game?) has convinced me that you always, always, always should go after a good SEC linebacker, especially if he wins SEC DPOY. I mean, if you're considered the best of the best in a conference that's always loaded on defense, chances are you're pretty good.

thecd
09-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Has Suggs resigned with Baltimore? I don't know if he's a perfect fit for our system at DE or LB, but I'd love to have a luxury FA like him. Other than him, Samuels, Turner and possibly Faneca form Pit., I don't see a lot of marquee free agents.

Zagen30
09-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Those marquee players like Briggs and Samuel will be way overpriced.

Expect Rick Smith to get a couple of quality players with that money, but it will be players that come in to compete, not have the starting job handed to them.

But does overpriced = not worth the money? I mean, the Patriots probably overpaid for Adalius Thomas, but he had had tangible success in the past(unlike all of those guards who got ridiculous sums of money without really proving themselves), and the Patriots felt that he was the missing piece to their defense. If Samuels is the guy who can make our defense dominant, then is it really a bad thing if we have to pay more than what the common market says he's worth?

Zagen30
09-19-2007, 05:58 PM
Has Suggs resigned with Baltimore? I don't know if he's a perfect fit for our system at DE or LB, but I'd love to have a luxury FA like him. Other than him, Samuels, Turner and possibly Faneca form Pit., I don't see a lot of marquee free agents.

I don't believe he has. He was signed to a 5-year deal, and I don't see any news on ESPN about him re-upping (this is his fifth year). Just imagine what our defense would be like with him here...

If we got him, where would he play? He played OLB in the 3-4, and switched to WDE when Baltimore changed to a 4-3, but apparently he's now back at OLB. Either way, though, he's got serious pass-rushing skill.

thecd
09-19-2007, 06:04 PM
I don't believe he has. He was signed to a 5-year deal, and I don't see any news on ESPN about him re-upping (this is his fifth year). Just imagine what our defense would be like with him here...

If we got him, where would he play? He played OLB in the 3-4, and switched to WDE when Baltimore changed to a 4-3, but apparently he's now back at OLB. Either way, though, he's got serious pass-rushing skill.

I'm not entirely sure myself, so this was part of my question. I he could fit into our WLB I think that would be the best in my opinion, as I don't see us losing Weaver anytime soon. However, since we don't blitz a lot with out LB's, I don't know if that would be a positive or negative for Suggs, as I'm not entirely sure what his strengths and weaknesses are.

Super Mario Bros
09-19-2007, 06:08 PM
Looking at the crazy money that Samuels is going to want next year do you think we'd be better off looking at a RB or OL in free agency over a top money CB?
What ever we don't get in FA would have to be found in the draft.

Who do you think would come cheaper (relatively of course) Turner or Samuels?

I'd take a RB in the draft in the third round. Just to get young in the position and have him learn under Green. Maybe let Dayne or Gado or both walk. And give Chris Taylor the #3 back spot.

The FA market next year is full of very good lineman so I'd address it there. Maybe upgrade over Fred Weary. Continue to add and upgrade depth.

CB or S would be my first round pick and I'd go out and get a big name in that area through free agency as well.

And depending on how well Jacoby Jones performs. I'd either use my 4th round pick on a WR or look for a #2 reciever through FA's.

Other than that I'd give Dunta an extension resign guys like Orr, Turk, Hutchins, Killings, Clark, Anderson, Bruener, etc.

Zagen30
09-19-2007, 06:58 PM
I'm not entirely sure myself, so this was part of my question. I he could fit into our WLB I think that would be the best in my opinion, as I don't see us losing Weaver anytime soon. However, since we don't blitz a lot with out LB's, I don't know if that would be a positive or negative for Suggs, as I'm not entirely sure what his strengths and weaknesses are.

His strength is rushing the passer, as he's very quick and pretty strong for his size (alright, I'm just guessing on the second part). Not sure if he's a liability against the run or not.

SamerElmir
09-19-2007, 07:26 PM
With the limited cap space we had this year, look what Smith/Kubiak did, just imagine what they could do with $30 million or so, they have a **** good eye for talent and know how to get it, if there is any big name player I would want, it would have to be Samuel.

HomeGrownTexan
09-19-2007, 09:26 PM
The Texans should also look into FA centers. McKinney and Flanagan both are not the long term answer.

joedinkle
09-19-2007, 11:04 PM
The Texans should also look into FA centers. McKinney and Flanagan both are not the long term answer.

i say the draft. lets get some youth there

austintexanite
09-19-2007, 11:09 PM
I believe we add some very good FA's next year.

westtexastexan
09-19-2007, 11:59 PM
Don't forget that Winston and Daniels are playing for the league minimum. If they start all year, the club would be wise to renegotiate their contracts after this season, rather than forcing them to play for three years as starters under rookie contracts at league minimum numbers.

infantrycak
09-20-2007, 08:55 AM
Don't forget that Winston and Daniels are playing for the league minimum. If they start all year, the club would be wise to renegotiate their contracts after this season, rather than forcing them to play for three years as starters under rookie contracts at league minimum numbers.

Both also received fairly sizable signing bonuses--Winston $1.2 mil, Owens $916k. Both signed 4 year deals. Look for a renegotiation after year three rather than year two.

westtexastexan
09-20-2007, 09:04 PM
You've got bad info.

Koolbrz
09-20-2007, 11:40 PM
The Texans should also look into FA centers. McKinney and Flanagan both are not the long term answer.

Dude, i say we go after M. Turner or M. Barber (Dallas). I believe he will be a free agent this yr. With one of these two guys in the backfield our offense will be so unstoppable!! Nothing like having a young, hard nosed down field runner like either one of these guys in the bckfield. Would love to pick up Barber, but i dont think JJ is gonna be stupid enough to even let him test the FA waters. We'll just have to wait and see.

TexansSB07
09-21-2007, 10:45 AM
Ye, texans will have one of the top amounts to spend, and with a good season the texans will have a shot at Lance Briggs, Asante Samuels.

Asante wants his money up front he is GOOD, but I think there will be better values for secondary....Lance Briggs will require 2 hires 1 to pay him, other to pay a driver so he can keep himself safe