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rdbrokaw
09-19-2007, 01:46 PM
What does Indy's D-Line look like? I've heard that they are not as strong as ours and I am hoping that we might be able to capatilize on our run game. With Green breaking the long yards and Dayne eating up the clock we will be able to keep Pretty Boy Manning off the field. What do you think?
HJam72
09-19-2007, 01:51 PM
I don't remember exactly, but I know they have Dwight Freeney, who is a classic example of what they're built for. He's a speed demon, end-rusher who gets to the QB frequently. They're built for speed and getting to the QB. At times, and who knows when those times will be, they can be "punched in the mouth" and worn down with a good, or at least consistent, running game. It's fun to run right at Freeney, who's biggest weakness is defending the run itself--unless of course you're David Freaking Carr. :)
Colts Addict
09-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Our D-line consists of Mathis (DE) who plays opposite Freeney. With Raheem Brock (converted DE to DT last year) and Ed Johnson (undrafted rookie). We have had some terrible luck last year and this year with our DT positions. In last year's offseason, we let Tripplett go to the Bills in FA, which left us with Simon and Reagor as starters. Simon never played a game last year due to an "undisclosed illness" and was eventually cut this year and picked up by the Titans (who seems to love all our old players). So, we moved Brock to the DT position to play along side with Reagor. We then picked up Booger McFarland from Tampa Bay at the trade deadline. The first game Booger started was against the Redskins, in which Reagor was in a severe car accident right before the game started... so that left us with Booger and Brock. One true DT and one converted DE at the DT position all over again.
Now, this year... we picked up Quinn Pitcock and Ed Johnson. Booger got hurt during training camp and is now out for the entire season... leaving us with a rookie and Brock again. We must be cursed at the DT position.
I will say this though... Ed Johnson seems to be a great find and Brock seems to have really gotten accustomed to the DT position after playing a full year now. Of course we have our rotational guys such a Klecko and Reid... but our starters are Mathis, Brock, Johnson, Freeney.
As far as Freeney's weak spot being against the run... that really is a misconception. His primary job is to pass rush. When people started to use the draw play or a delay run against us, at Freeney, he was then coached to play the run. He actually is a very good run container on his side, when coached to do so. If I can find the link of him going through double/triple teams, only to tackle the runner, I will post it.
jvaldez1984
09-19-2007, 02:06 PM
here is their depth chart...
http://www.nfl.com/teams/indianapoliscolts/depthchart?team=IND
3andOUT
09-19-2007, 02:11 PM
They have been a solid front 4 for some time now. They depend those 4 to bring the pass rush so they can play their cover 2. Freeney by no means is a slouch in the run game but that group can be ran on and ran on consistently. If the front 7 can't stop the run, they will bring up Sanders and he is their best ball-hawk who can really disrupt run plays and is tough to account for.
We will have to open up the run with the throw game.
Texas Bull
09-19-2007, 02:15 PM
I don't think we're going to have a choice as to whether we are going to run the ball alot. With AJ out. Green and Dayne are going to have to step up big time. And if JJ and company can get us a few big plays, we could pull it off. Hopeful we can have as much, or more, success running as we did last year.
3andOUT
09-19-2007, 02:18 PM
I don't think we're going to have a choice as to whether we are going to run the ball alot. With AJ out. Green and Dayne are going to have to step up big time. And if JJ and company can get us a few big plays, we could pull it off. Hopeful we can have as much, or more, success running as we did last year.
Well we know we absolutely HAVE to run the ball to win. They know we HAVE to run the ball to win. Therefore, they are going to make Schaub and everyone but AJ beat them. They are going to gear up to stop the run so it will be tougher to run the ball than it has been in the past. That being said, it can be done.
HJam72
09-19-2007, 02:22 PM
Our D-line consists of Mathis (DE) who plays opposite Freeney. With Raheem Brock (converted DE to DT last year) and Ed Johnson (undrafted rookie). We have had some terrible luck last year and this year with our DT positions. In last year's offseason, we let Tripplett go to the Bills in FA, which left us with Simon and Reagor as starters. Simon never played a game last year due to an "undisclosed illness" and was eventually cut this year and picked up by the Titans (who seems to love all our old players). So, we moved Brock to the DT position to play along side with Reagor. We then picked up Booger McFarland from Tampa Bay at the trade deadline. The first game Booger started was against the Redskins, in which Reagor was in a severe car accident right before the game started... so that left us with Booger and Brock. One true DT and one converted DE at the DT position all over again.
Now, this year... we picked up Quinn Pitcock and Ed Johnson. Booger got hurt during training camp and is now out for the entire season... leaving us with a rookie and Brock again. We must be cursed at the DT position.
I will say this though... Ed Johnson seems to be a great find and Brock seems to have really gotten accustomed to the DT position after playing a full year now. Of course we have our rotational guys such a Klecko and Reid... but our starters are Mathis, Brock, Johnson, Freeney.
As far as Freeney's weak spot being against the run... that really is a misconception. His primary job is to pass rush. When people started to use the draw play or a delay run against us, at Freeney, he was then coached to play the run. He actually is a very good run container on his side, when coached to do so. If I can find the link of him going through double/triple teams, only to tackle the runner, I will post it.
I'm sure you know more about it than I do. I only watch Texans games, so that's all I see.
coltsgirl88
09-19-2007, 02:38 PM
Bob Sanders was just named Defensive Player of the Week.
Sanders Named AFC Defensive Player of the Week
INDIANAPOLIS - He made the Pro Bowl in 2005, and last season, he helped the Colts to the Super Bowl.
Now, Bob Sanders has another honor:
AFC Defensive Player of the Week.
Sanders, a strong safety, had 11 tackles - including seven solo – and also registered 2.5 sacks this past Sunday in the Colts' 22-20 victory over the Tennessee Titans at LP Field
in Nashville, Tenn. He was named Player of the Week for the effort.
They were the first sacks of his NFL career.
One of the sacks came on the Titans' final series, a series on which Sanders and middle linebacker Gary Brackett also pressured Titans quarterback Vince Young on 4th-and-4 from the Colts 47 with 15 seconds remaining to help force an errant, game-ending lateral.
http://cache.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=1fe9acdb-e724-4918-be42-36bfcaec60cc
ColtinIraq
09-19-2007, 03:02 PM
I think you will be surprised just how quick the Indy defense is as a whole.
ColtinIraq
09-19-2007, 03:20 PM
and you will be surprised how much our offense is as a whole
You forgot "ha"
ColtinIraq
09-19-2007, 03:23 PM
Let me help you with your sig andre
Sanders, a strong safety, had 11 tackles - including seven solo – and also registered 2.5 sacks this past Sunday
Texas Bull
09-19-2007, 04:37 PM
Well we know we absolutely HAVE to run the ball to win. They know we HAVE to run the ball to win. Therefore, they are going to make Schaub and everyone but AJ beat them. They are going to gear up to stop the run so it will be tougher to run the ball than it has been in the past. That being said, it can be done.
I guess my point is that if we can't gain +120 on the ground, I seriously doubt we come out of this with a W. As good as I think OD and JJ are, I don't think they can come close to filling the void that AJ will leave.
ib4texans
09-19-2007, 04:45 PM
Last year Dayne -<
This year Greene and Dayne +>
Last year Carr -<
This year Schauby +>
Last year AJ =
This year JJ and Owen =
Zagen30
09-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Let me help you with your sig andre
Sanders, a strong safety, had 11 tackles - including seven solo – and also registered 2.5 sacks this past Sunday
When someone on a MB adopts a player, it's someone from their favorite team, and probably the team whose MB it is. And not to knock Sanders, who had a really good game, but he is a multi-year veteran who is more used to playing in the NFL. Amobi was a rookie DT playing in his second-ever game.
schaubisgod
09-19-2007, 05:02 PM
I don't think she should have too much of a problem moving the football against a Colt's defense that is still seriously lacking (despite the scores of the last two weeks). That said, we aren't playing Kansas City or Carolina. Indianapolis is phenomenal on the defensive side of the ball, but they are consistent, which means that we must be consistent. If we can establish a running game that will cause them to bite on playaction passes, I don't see why we couldn't keep up with their high powered offense, Andre or no Andre.
Super Mario Bros
09-19-2007, 05:03 PM
On a positive note the Titans ran through the tackles at ease last Sunday and with our zone blocking we can do the same.
waltman
09-19-2007, 05:11 PM
The Colts don't normally stack the box. Their defense is built on speed so it will be hard to get a home run (running the ball) on them. But on average you can normally get 3 to 4 yards on them. When they do bring that extra man in the box, the Texans will have to capitalize on the passing game. I think Owen Daniels will be an important part of the offense against their cover 2. We have to pound it to maintain time of possession and the rest will be a chest match between Kubiak/OC and Dungy/OC. By the way, on average their defense is giving up 123 yds on the ground.
crunk-colt
09-19-2007, 05:20 PM
On a positive note the Titans ran through the tackles at ease last Sunday and with our zone blocking we can do the same.
ummm you may want to rewatch the game, becuase that wasnt the case.
schaubisgod
09-19-2007, 05:27 PM
ummm you may want to rewatch the game, becuase that wasnt the case.
Actually, the Colts gave up 117 yards last week. 53 of them belonging to QB Vince Young who averaged over 10 yards a carry. If that's the best they could do against LenDale White and Vince Young, then I don't see how they would do much better against Ahman Green and Ron Dayne.
fdknuckles
09-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Do y'all remeber the end of last year when we be them it was by committing to the run. Every other team decided this was the way to go after our victory and committed to the run. They were all defeated. The Colts improved their run defense enough to stop everyone else. I agree we need to feature the run to win, but we need to mix it up and have them make constant adjustments to keep them off kilter.
HJam72
09-19-2007, 06:16 PM
The Colts don't normally stack the box. Their defense is built on speed so it will be hard to get a home run (running the ball) on them. But on average you can normally get 3 to 4 yards on them. When they do bring that extra man in the box, the Texans will have to capitalize on the passing game. I think Owen Daniels will be an important part of the offense against their cover 2. We have to pound it to maintain time of possession and the rest will be a chest match between Kubiak/OC and Dungy/OC. By the way, on average their defense is giving up 123 yds on the ground.
I like our odds there. I haven't been looking or anything, but I'm pretty sure Kubiaks chest is bigger. :D
CarolinaTexan
09-19-2007, 07:09 PM
Our D is the best they will have played so far this year. I wouldn't exactly call tennessee and saints defenses good.
waltman
09-19-2007, 07:25 PM
I like our odds there. I haven't been looking or anything, but I'm pretty sure Kubiaks chest is bigger. :D
LOL. My bad.
rex king
09-20-2007, 09:27 AM
They were worst in the league against the run last season, but to be fair, they were missing Bob Sanders for most of those games and teams were probably committed to the run game to keep the ball out of Peyton's greasy mitts. When Sanders came back, they fared better in the playoffs, but still gave up a healthy average ypc. And they have been at least a top half defense overall for all except maybe one of Dungy's years, but have been consistently mediocre against the run.
No-one's going to be "surprised" by Indy's speed on defense; it's what their known for. But you may be surprised at how physical this Texans defense has become.
3andOUT
09-20-2007, 10:04 AM
The Colts defensive line is a bit undesized, but they are aggressive and hit extremely hard. If they aren't, they won't be playing for Tony Dungy very long.
The so called weakness of the Colts defense is a bit overstated. I think that's partly because their offense is so explosive and efficient that they're a hard act to follow so to speak.
One of the reasons the Colts offense is so good is that their defense can and often does put them in a good position to open it up. The Colts usually win the battle of field position each week. That's the mark of a good defense
I can definitely see where a high-octane O can discount the play of your defense. That being said, if you guys ever have anything close to the talent you have on offense on the defensive side, you need to go to IKEA and get a bigger trophy case. The talent's not close, but it doesn't need to be.
Field position is more a product of Special Teams than anything, but obviously your D is a big factor in that battle for field position. You being a Colt's fan, I'm sure you have a much better pulse on the way they play week in and week out. What I see is a D that is built to play from ahead.
3andOUT
09-20-2007, 10:07 AM
I guess my point is that if we can't gain +120 on the ground, I seriously doubt we come out of this with a W. As good as I think OD and JJ are, I don't think they can come close to filling the void that AJ will leave.
Not too many people in this league could fill AJ's shoes, but it's not like AJ is the only reason we have won these past 4 games.
We have to be SHARP right out of the gate. If we start slow again, we might not get a chance to come back in this one.
Wolf123
09-20-2007, 10:28 AM
Texans have to control the ball on offense and have a great game by the defense to have a shot a Win. I'd look for the texans to exploit that small interior D-line of the colts.
3andOUT
09-20-2007, 10:38 AM
This is a phenomenon I just can't understand. Every single time I express a positive view of another team, someone automatically assumes that I'm a fan of that team.
Apologies Tahuya, I haven't been on these boards too long.
El Tejano
09-20-2007, 10:58 AM
#94 (I forget his name), to me, will be the guy we have to stop when it comes to us passing the ball. He stops the run very well and he can play the TE really well too.
infantrycak
09-20-2007, 11:09 AM
#94 (I forget his name), to me, will be the guy we have to stop when it comes to us passing the ball. He stops the run very well and he can play the TE really well too.
Rob Morris--he missed last week and is questionable.
Colts Addict
09-20-2007, 11:22 AM
Not that we can't be run on... We have to see, as we are only in week 3 here. However, I think some people do not realize the reason we had trouble stopping the run last year. We were riddled with injuries. We lost one of our DT's to FA... another one of our DT's never played last year... We lost another DT to a car accident... Our SAM (Gardner) sucked so bad, we had to pull him mid season... Bob Sanders was hurt most of last year... At one point, we had lost so many DB's, that we were playing with 4 strings (no joke) it was ridiculous. We literally had less than half of our starting Defense playing that had played the year before. If you ask any of the Colts coaches, why we suddenly got better in the post season, they would tell you health.
Now... as far as what we are averaging on the ground (defensively) this year, you figure in only the stats of the RB's. Its absolutely correct to figure in QB rushing yards, with passing yards. (ask any coach and they will agree) Then you will get our appropriate average.
I see alot of people saying that in order to beat the Colts you have to run, run, run. I disagree. In order to be able to beat anyone, you have to be able to run successfully... but not run, run, run. That only works, if our Defense is beat up, like last year. Its about long drives. Dinking, dunking, running, the occassional attempt at a big play, etc. Its about keeping us out of rhythm (which is what we do best) in the way of clock control.
Its also about getting pressure up front. I don't care how good your DB's are... if you give Peyton enough time, he will find an open man and pick you apart. Its not about crowd noise... its not about constant running... its about getting back to the basics. Long controlled drives on Offense, major pressure from your front 4 on Defense. (disguises if possible) As well as LB's that can cover the check downs and our slot and keeping the score close. If you fall too far behind, it plays right into our Defensive scheme.
Indy Skinnz
09-20-2007, 11:30 AM
Not that we can't be run on... We have to see, as we are only in week 3 here. However, I think some people do not realize the reason we had trouble stopping the run last year. We were riddled with injuries. We lost one of our DT's to FA... another one of our DT's never played last year... We lost another DT to a car accident... Our SAM (Gardner) sucked so bad, we had to pull him mid season... Bob Sanders was hurt most of last year... At one point, we had lost so many DB's, that we were playing with 4 strings (no joke) it was ridiculous. We literally had less than half of our starting Defense playing that had played the year before. If you ask any of the Colts coaches, why we suddenly got better in the post season, they would tell you health.
Now... as far as what we are averaging on the ground (defensively) this year, you figure in only the stats of the RB's. Its absolutely correct to figure in QB rushing yards, with passing yards. (ask any coach and they will agree) Then you will get our appropriate average.
I see alot of people saying that in order to beat the Colts you have to run, run, run. I disagree. In order to be able to beat anyone, you have to be able to run successfully... but not run, run, run. That only works, if our Defense is beat up, like last year. Its about long drives. Dinking, dunking, running, the occassional attempt at a big play, etc. Its about keeping us out of rhythm (which is what we do best) in the way of clock control.
Its also about getting pressure up front. I don't care how good your DB's are... if you give Peyton enough time, he will find an open man and pick you apart. Its not about crowd noise... its not about constant running... its about getting back to the basics. Long controlled drives on Offense, major pressure from your front 4 on Defense. (disguises if possible) As well as LB's that can cover the check downs and our slot and keeping the score close. If you fall too far behind, it plays right into our Defensive scheme.
My wife might have a hard time with this, but will you Marry me?
ib4texans
09-20-2007, 11:58 AM
This is a phenomenon I just can't understand. Every single time I express a positive view of another team, someone automatically assumes that I'm a fan of that team.
Maybe if you tried to express even one positive view of the Texans football team in the Texans forum those mistakes wouldn't be made.
You seem to make inflamatory statements and fiegn suprise when people have no patience for you. It might just be the huge inferiority complex that you claimed we Texan fans have. JMO
infantrycak
09-20-2007, 12:06 PM
Maybe if you tried to express even one positive view of the Texans football team in the Texans forum those mistakes wouldn't be made.
Nah--what he really needs to do is man up and declare which team he actually roots for.
South Texan
09-20-2007, 12:32 PM
What I am getting here is the Colts D is better against the run, and our run game has improved from last time we played them. Still all boils down to a tight game.
ib4texans
09-20-2007, 12:34 PM
Nah--what he really needs to do is man up and declare which team he actually roots for.
Of course his response will be that we are infantile, and lack proper objectivity.
Colts Addict
09-20-2007, 12:35 PM
What I am getting here is the Colts D is better against the run, and our run game has improved from last time we played them. Still all boils down to a tight game.
LOL... basically. You just managed to use less words than I did. ;)
ib4texans
09-20-2007, 12:48 PM
Realistic, honest comments aren't "inflamatory". Texans fans are perhaps the most defensive group of people I've seen anywhere. Your inferiority complex iis clearly demonstrated in nearly every thread.
So then you will admit that you are not and will not be a fan of the Texans?
My inferiority complex may stem from your overinflated sense of importance and lack of optimism for the team on who's MB you are posting.
I don't doubt the sincerity of your comments, I will not allow that your comments are always realistic.
You could easily fit in on the Panthers forum or the Colts. You stay here and make INFLAMATORY posts, based on your opinions which inadvertantly always seem to favor an opposing team.
If we beat the Colts this week, I'm sure you will have plenty of reasons why the Falcons too are the favorites to beat the Texans.
Sorry Tayhuyaman your not really that sophisticated.
ib4texans
09-20-2007, 01:04 PM
Your inferiority complex is my fault?
My inferiority complex may stem from your overinflated sense of importance and lack of optimism for the team on who's MB you are posting.
.
Your inferiority complex is my fault?
I believe that you are the one that stated that I have an inferiority complex.
I said that it "MAY STEM"
To set the record straight I have no inferiority complex, my team is 2-0 . You can't take that away with your objective views of the teams we have played.
Like I said, you are going to try and make up some BS as to why the Falcons should beat the Texans next week.
3andOUT
09-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Keep it up kids
El Tejano
09-20-2007, 01:32 PM
Its also about getting pressure up front. I don't care how good your DB's are... if you give Peyton enough time, he will find an open man and pick you apart. Its not about crowd noise... its not about constant running... its about getting back to the basics. Long controlled drives on Offense, major pressure from your front 4 on Defense. (disguises if possible) As well as LB's that can cover the check downs and our slot and keeping the score close. If you fall too far behind, it plays right into our Defensive scheme.
And this is where I think you will see us differently this year. So far our team has like 6 sacks on the season and it is all coming from our front 4. We aren't even blitzing with anyone else but our front 4. As for the LB that can cover the check downs, I think Demeco matured during the season and he contributed that way to our success against Indy last year.
Long controlled drives have been the theme to our 2-0 record this year. This should be a real good game.
ib4texans
09-20-2007, 01:43 PM
im not gonna ook im to lazy...i will take my statement back but i know someone said it.....
It was "Deeztexans" who said the "lose" will follow to the Falcons. I think he was looking for the word "loss".
ib4texans
09-20-2007, 01:48 PM
I will take credit for my comments, but not for the comments of others.
If you want to take credit for your comments bieng inflamatory then I invite anyone to go to the "members list" hit the "T" find "tahuyaman" then view "all posts". You will find that most posts are derogatory,argumentative and biased. You don't have to take my word for it, just follow the steps above.
Ladies and Gentleman what we have here is a "TROLL"
BattleRedRaider
09-20-2007, 01:51 PM
It was "Deeztexans" who said the "lose" will follow to the Falcons. I think he was looking for the word "loss".
Actually, he said the "lost" will follow the Texans to the Falcons.
So....he was thinking "loss", he meant "lose", and he typed "lost"......
Unless he means "the lost will follow" like....people who are lost?
the hell.
BattleRedRaider
09-20-2007, 01:59 PM
You can call me any names, or make any comments you wish. You don't effect me in any way.
In other words....
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me
or at least rhyme....
You don't effect me in any way, it won't matter what you say!
Colts Addict
09-20-2007, 02:09 PM
And this is where I think you will see us differently this year. So far our team has like 6 sacks on the season and it is all coming from our front 4. We aren't even blitzing with anyone else but our front 4. As for the LB that can cover the check downs, I think Demeco matured during the season and he contributed that way to our success against Indy last year.
Long controlled drives have been the theme to our 2-0 record this year. This should be a real good game.
I definitely think it will make for a good game. One I am looking forward to, which can seem to get here fast enough.
Another thing is... you have a new QB. One that our Coaches do not have alot of tape on. With every new QB, comes a slightly different scheme, in order to implement his abilities into the Offense. It should make for an interesting chess match. One thing that Jeff Fisher did and always seems to do, that I am surprised alot of coaches don't do... is come out with a different game plan in the 2nd half. Its no secret we are a better 2nd half team. We make our adjustments at halftime, giving the other team hardly anytime to adjust to our adjustments. Fisher knows this and uses this to his advantage. For some reason... alot of Coaches don't edit their gameplan from half to half, IF it seems to be working in the first half. Being a division rival though, I am sure your Coaches already know this though.
BIG ERN
09-20-2007, 02:41 PM
Negativity seems to be the theme this week.
BattleRedRaider
09-20-2007, 03:03 PM
I pray to God that you aren't a product of the public schools in Texas.
Says the guy who can't differentiate the uses of "a" and "an".
outofhnd
09-20-2007, 03:23 PM
Ok Indy's D line is not my concern as much as freeney on salaam. Other than that Im not worried about Mathis, Because I feel if winsont can keep Peppers in check Mathis should be easy as well as long as him and weary pick up the occasional twist moves the ends will play with the tackles. I am more interested in who do we lineup over Ugh - oh. he has done admirably but last week proved he wasnt a match for vanden BOsch, Do we line mario over him? Or who? Our rotation is better than theirs because we have an 8 man defensive front four that rotates practically every play. :D
As for Tahuya, You guys quit acting like my girlfriend does when other chics call her fat. You guys argue like eventually he is going to say Oh my bad the texans are the greatest team ever. I say we have a chance to beat indy but it is going to be small. I will say we will compete and continue to play quality football.
rex king
09-20-2007, 04:04 PM
At least I don't need to change someones quotes to fit their agenda.
Yes, but what's YOUR agenda? As infantry asked, why don't you just tell us who you root for? If you have no dog in the fight (ok, poor choice of words), why choose our team's message board out of 32? This team's fans haven't had a lot to be happy about for five years, so now that they experience a little success and joy, you just feel you need to come here as a "neutral" omniscient to pound that out with your "realism"? Defensive? Do you expect us to say, ok, thank you, sir, may I have another?
You remind me of a Titans fan on here a while back who did the same thing. Tack in sheep's clothing.
rex king
09-20-2007, 04:19 PM
Not that we can't be run on... We have to see, as we are only in week 3 here. However, I think some people do not realize the reason we had trouble stopping the run last year. We were riddled with injuries. We lost one of our DT's to FA... another one of our DT's never played last year... We lost another DT to a car accident... Our SAM (Gardner) sucked so bad, we had to pull him mid season... Bob Sanders was hurt most of last year... At one point, we had lost so many DB's, that we were playing with 4 strings (no joke) it was ridiculous. We literally had less than half of our starting Defense playing that had played the year before. If you ask any of the Colts coaches, why we suddenly got better in the post season, they would tell you health.
Now... as far as what we are averaging on the ground (defensively) this year, you figure in only the stats of the RB's. Its absolutely correct to figure in QB rushing yards, with passing yards. (ask any coach and they will agree) Then you will get our appropriate average.
I see alot of people saying that in order to beat the Colts you have to run, run, run. I disagree. In order to be able to beat anyone, you have to be able to run successfully... but not run, run, run. That only works, if our Defense is beat up, like last year. Its about long drives. Dinking, dunking, running, the occassional attempt at a big play, etc. Its about keeping us out of rhythm (which is what we do best) in the way of clock control.
Its also about getting pressure up front. I don't care how good your DB's are... if you give Peyton enough time, he will find an open man and pick you apart. Its not about crowd noise... its not about constant running... its about getting back to the basics. Long controlled drives on Offense, major pressure from your front 4 on Defense. (disguises if possible) As well as LB's that can cover the check downs and our slot and keeping the score close. If you fall too far behind, it plays right into our Defensive scheme. And no big mistakes. I don't think we can afford turnovers like we had against the Chiefs and the Panthers.
Nice analysis. What I was saying earlier was that the Colts have been 15th or worse in the league in rushing defense in Dungy's years. Not that that has translated into a lot of L's for them.
It's extremely unfortunate AJ probably won't play. I'm sure Kubiak would implement a few new plays. So far Daniels has done a great job of finding holes in the zone, and Schaub at finding him when they blitz. Jacoby Jones is the bigger unknown factor than Schaub IMO.
ib4texans
09-20-2007, 04:30 PM
At least I don't need to change someones quotes to fit their agenda.
I do believe that your only agenda is to incense and inflame, just to promote a general sense of unrest. If you have found yourself in agreement to any of the posts on this board that show support for the Texans, then please by all means feel free to reference them.
BattleRedRaider
09-20-2007, 05:40 PM
At least I don't need to change someones quotes to fit their agenda.
Agenda?
I left your quote untouched, for pete's sake.
I just made up my own to go with it because I was bored.
Eh.....I suppose I could say "nice try" for the one-up attempt. I've seen better by people who I wouldn't consider "smart".
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And I believe Kubiak will find a way to run right through that Indy D-line, whether they have Bob Sanders or not.
Vinny
09-20-2007, 07:07 PM
what i dont get is how ive been banned twice the last week and this guy is still here? care to explain mods....
You don't know who I ban...I don't tell them when I ban you....so why do you think you would know if I ever banned him or anyone else? I haven't banned him fwiw and I rarely ban anyone for any length of time if they take some responsibility for their behavior in any case. You was banned for making threats...veiled, subtle, or otherwise, that kind of stuff isn't welcome here. We got the moderating thing down...you just behave yourself and let us deal with the problems.Yes, but what's YOUR agenda? As infantry asked, why don't you just tell us who you root for? If you have no dog in the fight (ok, poor choice of words), why choose our team's message board out of 32? he posts on various teams message boards around the league...it's not just us. He seems consistent in his banter at all of them.
Vinny
09-20-2007, 07:14 PM
eye eye captain....and i will behave
I don't see you as a problem...that's why I lifted my already short ban (its really just a short time out) early....give em hell...just not too much. ;)
Whiskeyrbl
09-21-2007, 06:54 AM
Whats this thread about again?
HJam72
09-21-2007, 08:53 AM
Whats this thread about again?
Winky smilies. ;)
BattleRedRaider
09-21-2007, 11:24 AM
got something in me eye http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/973/icon12dz7.gif
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