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FLACKU
05-03-2007, 05:37 PM
Who do you think was blocking for Vince when the Long Horns won the Rose Bowl?
Kasey is a monster of a blocker and everyone crys we didnt pick -up any good O-line in the Draft.

Super Mario Bros
05-03-2007, 07:33 PM
That Texas O-Line had 3-4 guys who are in the NFL it wasn't just Studdard

Ole Miss Texan
05-03-2007, 07:43 PM
Who do you think was blocking for Vince when the Long Horns won the Rose Bowl?
Kasey is a monster of a blocker and everyone crys we didnt pick -up any good O-line in the Draft.


So did the Tennessee Titans OL depth chart.
I am looking forward to what kasey brings to the team. All I am expecting is steady improvement and some quality play when he gets a chance to play. I like the picks of Frye and Studdard, both being on the 2nd day, because they are depth right now. The should have some great experience over the next few years and really improve...and I love that schaub will be the QB they learn from.

caddy
05-03-2007, 08:29 PM
Now, I would love to know what a QB is going to teach a rookie lineman.

HydrOshocK
05-04-2007, 05:19 AM
Good. Hopefully he can provide our D-line with the inside scoop on VY's tendencies so we can crush him this yr.

Powerfuldragon
05-04-2007, 10:55 AM
That Texas O-Line had 3-4 guys who are in the NFL it wasn't just Studdard

nah, go back and watch the rose bowl vs. USC... you'll notice thatthere's only ever one o-lineman on the field when the horns offense wasup.

HydrOshocK
05-04-2007, 07:33 PM
While I don't think you can lay vy's success on Studdard, you also can't say that vy was the only person on the field in any of those games.
Personally, I'm sick of all the man love that the media gives vy, like he is Jesus Christ Superstar that can turn a whole defense into daffodils while he tramps gaily into the endzone.
Face it, vy is the player he is today because of some **** good blocking. Just don't be surprised when a top-caliber NFL DT or linebacker takes out his legs at the knees with that long-legged gait of his. When his legs go, he goes. I'll give vy eight years, so, seven to go.


my thoughts exactly. He's one ACL injury away from a very mediocre career.

Zagen30
05-04-2007, 10:42 PM
While I don't think you can lay vy's success on Studdard, you also can't say that vy was the only person on the field in any of those games.
Personally, I'm sick of all the man love that the media gives vy, like he is Jesus Christ Superstar that can turn a whole defense into daffodils while he tramps gaily into the endzone.
Face it, vy is the player he is today because of some **** good blocking. Just don't be surprised when a top-caliber NFL DT or linebacker takes out his legs at the knees with that long-legged gait of his. When his legs go, he goes. I'll give vy eight years, so, seven to go.


my thoughts exactly. He's one ACL injury away from a very mediocre career.

Yeah, look at Culpepper, tore up his knee and now he's not so good.
Granted, he didn't rely on mobility as much, and he wasn't completely recovered, but he looked nothing like the QB who put up 39 TDs through the air the same year that Peyton put up 49. Culpepper has gone from star QB to probable backup or out of the league because of a serious injury.

Jwwillis1
05-04-2007, 11:31 PM
Now, I would love to know what a QB is going to teach a rookie lineman.

I can hear it now, "Look rookie, your job is to protect my *** at all costs. When you see some big dude coming at me throw yourself in front of him. If you can do this for 16 games and stay healthy, I'll buy you a watch."

fdknuckles
05-05-2007, 09:36 PM
It's gonna take more than Studdard to stop Kearse or Freeny

FLACKU
05-06-2007, 03:54 PM
Kearse had 3.5 sacks last year and Freeney had 5.5. Big Deal! They rank right there with Babin. Ha! Ha!

HydrOshocK
05-06-2007, 04:05 PM
It's gonna take more than Studdard to stop Kearse or Freeny

Those are primarily outside speed rushers. I don't think Studdard's job will be to stop the pass rush as much as it will be to open up holes for Ahman Green. Hopefully his addition will help bolster the run game.

bah007
05-07-2007, 09:52 AM
While I don't think you can lay vy's success on Studdard, you also can't say that vy was the only person on the field in any of those games.
Personally, I'm sick of all the man love that the media gives vy, like he is Jesus Christ Superstar that can turn a whole defense into daffodils while he tramps gaily into the endzone.
Face it, vy is the player he is today because of some **** good blocking. Just don't be surprised when a top-caliber NFL DT or linebacker takes out his legs at the knees with that long-legged gait of his. When his legs go, he goes. I'll give vy eight years, so, seven to go.


Yeah & the same can be said about every other offensive player in the entire NFL.
His media hype is pretty well deserved, considering he won the OROY last year & helped a terrible team look almost like a playoff team.
The guy is a tremendous talent. Pure fact.

Texans Horror
05-07-2007, 01:26 PM
Vince will never have a problem so long as he's facing New York Giants linemen...

bt304203
05-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Good. Hopefully he can provide our D-line with the inside scoop on VY's tendencies so we can crush him this yr.
The titans are gonna suck this year. Young has no runningback or wide recievers. Their defense is gonna be piss poor and the only offense is gonna be Young running his *** off. Look for CC to give him a real TEXAS homecoming welcome once he tries to run out of our pass rush this year. HAHAHA

rex king
05-07-2007, 05:30 PM
Gonna accuse everyone who recognizes he made the game-winning plays in the Rose Bowl and in OT against us? I didn't see Studdard or anyone else blocking for him on those plays. DROY against OROY mano-a-mano, and he made DeMeco look foolish.

He is a trememdous talent; whether he's a tremendous passer remains to be seen.

I just hope Studdard can prove the draft gurus wrong and be good enough to be our starting center.

Axman40
05-07-2007, 06:41 PM
Studdard has an engine that does not quit!.I am sure he will ask his dad David Studdard about working in Coach Kubiak 's system.
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gsus8091
05-07-2007, 09:32 PM
While I don't think you can lay vy's success on Studdard, you also can't say that vy was the only person on the field in any of those games.
Personally, I'm sick of all the man love that the media gives vy, like he is Jesus Christ Superstar that can turn a whole defense into daffodils while he tramps gaily into the endzone.
Face it, vy is the player he is today because of some **** good blocking. Just don't be surprised when a top-caliber NFL DT or linebacker takes out his legs at the knees with that long-legged gait of his. When his legs go, he goes. I'll give vy eight years, so, seven to go.

THANK YOU!

bah007
05-08-2007, 10:23 AM
His media hype is pretty well deserved, considering he won the OROY last year & helped a terrible team look almost like a playoff team. The guy is a tremendous talent. Pure fact.

Sniff, sniff ... I smell a closet "Tack" fan.
Look, if you want to be all kissy-kissy on vy's hind parts go right ahead. OROY, MVP, whatever. The only award that anyone remembers you for in the NFL is a Super Bowl ring. And that is a real FACT.
Is vy a talent? Yes, that I'll agree is a fact. But a "tremendous" talent? Sorry, that is still an opinion, and will remain an opinion until he wins a Super Bowl.

So just because I can recognize that Vince Young is a tremendous talent that makes me a Titans fan?
You look pretty ridiculous right now.
He was the 3rd overall pick in the NFL Draft. Of course he is a tremendous talent. And if OROY doesn't mean anything then why do they hand out the award? Oh wait... I know. It's because that means that you were the best offensive rookie in the league, which is no small accomplishment.
As a matter of fact, I hate the Titans. But that doesn't mean that I go out & say that all their good players suck. I'm not such a blind Texans fan that I think that anybody that is not on our team is a chump.
You are right about one thing though. What I said about Young is my opinion. But it is an opinion held by pretty much everybody who watches football so you & Merril Hoge can both just keep your heads up your asses & pretend that he is a horrible player.

bah007
05-08-2007, 01:56 PM
You are right about one thing though. What I said about Young is my opinion.
Well, I already knew that, but thanks.
But it is an opinion held by pretty much everybody who watches football ...
No, that's just another of YOUR opinions. You were so close.
... so you & Merril Hoge can both just keep your heads up your asses & pretend that he is a horrible player.
That is laughable. Obviously you didn't read ALL of my original post before you went on your little tirade. And no, I'm not reposting it for you. Go back and read it ALL before you post at me again. (And I've got MY head up MY ***? Please!)


Well I will use some proof to back up my claim that Vince Young is a tremendous football talent.
HIGH SCHOOL:
As a senior, he was named the National Player of the Year by many sources after compiling over 3,800 yards & 59 TD's.
COLLEGE:
In the history of NCAA college football, Vince Young is THE ONLY player to throw for 3,000 yards & rush for 1,000 yards in the same season.
He was the best player on a National Championship team.
With Young as their QB, Texas became the 5th team EVER to average 50 points & 500 yards per game.
After his last season, he won the Manning Award (best QB in the U.S.), the Maxwell Award (best college player), the Davey O'Brien Award (best QB in the NCAA).
He was also the Heisman runner-up & a unanimous All-American
PRO:
He was the 3rd overall pick in the draft (yes there have been busts before, but the players are chosen at this spot because guess what? They are suspected of having tremendous talent.)
He put up subpar numbers in his first season (which is expected for rookie QB's) but he did manage to accout for 19 TD's over 2,700 yards in only 13 starts.
He also led a piss poor team to a 8-5 record as the starter, with 4 of the wins coming as 4th quarter comebacks.

bah007
05-08-2007, 02:00 PM
Now I'm guessing that as a last resort, you will call me a Titan lover & a VY fan.
Well guess what? I am a VY fan.
I hate the Titans, but I happen to be a UT football fan, so I hope that Young succeeds in the NFL, except when he is playing the Texans.
As to your comment about the Super Bowl, are you saying that Dan Marino, Kellen Winslow, Tim Brown, Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Bruce Matthews, Anthony Munoz, & Barry Sanders were not tremendous talents because they never won a Super Bowl?

bah007
05-08-2007, 04:14 PM
And in my original post, I put that vy's success can not be attributed to Studdard, INSINUATING that I believe him to be talented.
As to your comment about the Super Bowl, are you saying that Dan Marino, Kellen Winslow, Tim Brown, Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Bruce Matthews, Anthony Munoz, & Barry Sanders were not tremendous talents because they never won a Super Bowl?
Well, I know that Marino is often referred to as the "greatest quarterback TO NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL." Somehow, that is always thrown in when comparing Marino to greats such as Montana, Brady, and Bradshaw. I guess winning the Super Bowl is still the highest achievement in the NFL. Go figure.
Compare Barry Sanders to Emmit Smith (both great players). What do you have to say? That he never won a Super Bowl. You HAVE to say that when comparing the two. Same goes for Campbell. Great player, but NEVER won a Super Bowl. Same goes for all you just mentioned.
Think about it. If you ask most NFL players if they would rather be league MVP or win the Super Bowl, what do you think their answer will be?
I hate the Titans, but I happen to be a UT football fan, so I hope that Young succeeds in the NFL, except when he is playing the Texans.
Ah yes. But I separate college football fan support from pro football fan support. College don't have jack to do with the pro game. I root for the Razorbacks, but I'm not going to root for Arkansas players in the NFL unless they are on the Texans roster. Maybe that is just my idea of loyalty though.

That's all good but I believe you can root for players on other teams & still loyaly support your own team.
For example, I'm not a UCLA fan but I found Maurice Jones-Drew to be a fascinating player in college so I follow him in the pros now, even though he plays for a division rival. I like to see that he is successful right now, but I also hope for him to get shut down when he plays against us next year.

outofhnd
05-08-2007, 04:36 PM
Is it safe to assume we have gotten a little "off topic" as the last like 5 posts have nothing to do with Studdard?
You can debate Vince Young's Measurables, statistics, and possible future all summer long, here are the facts.
He plays for an ARCH rival,
He won Offensive Rookie of the year,
He presented a problem for defensive gameplans all year long and led tennesee to a .500 record.
Do I think he will play up to the hype of being the first QB drafted in 06? Hard to say, Hes a man alone this year. I think a year of game film will provide defenses with a better idea of how to stop him. NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT....
Do I think Studdard is a great player? Hard to say I like the fact we have added depth and a gritty lineman to the mix. Time will tell how well he can adapt to the system Im hoping for the best.

HydrOshocK
05-08-2007, 07:07 PM
And in my original post, I put that vy's success can not be attributed to Studdard, INSINUATING that I believe him to be talented.
As to your comment about the Super Bowl, are you saying that Dan Marino, Kellen Winslow, Tim Brown, Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Bruce Matthews, Anthony Munoz, & Barry Sanders were not tremendous talents because they never won a Super Bowl?
Well, I know that Marino is often referred to as the "greatest quarterback TO NEVER WIN A SUPER BOWL." Somehow, that is always thrown in when comparing Marino to greats such as Montana, Brady, and Bradshaw. I guess winning the Super Bowl is still the highest achievement in the NFL. Go figure.
Compare Barry Sanders to Emmit Smith (both great players). What do you have to say? That he never won a Super Bowl. You HAVE to say that when comparing the two. Same goes for Campbell. Great player, but NEVER won a Super Bowl. Same goes for all you just mentioned.
Think about it. If you ask most NFL players if they would rather be league MVP or win the Super Bowl, what do you think their answer will be?
I hate the Titans, but I happen to be a UT football fan, so I hope that Young succeeds in the NFL, except when he is playing the Texans.
Ah yes. But I separate college football fan support from pro football fan support. College don't have jack to do with the pro game. I root for the Razorbacks, but I'm not going to root for Arkansas players in the NFL unless they are on the Texans roster. Maybe that is just my idea of loyalty though.

That's all good but I believe you can root for players on other teams & still loyaly support your own team.
For example, I'm not a UCLA fan but I found Maurice Jones-Drew to be a fascinating player in college so I follow him in the pros now, even though he plays for a division rival. I like to see that he is successful right now, but I also hope for him to get shut down when he plays against us next year.


I think you have a very valid point here. Truth be told, I am and have always been a Peyton Manning fan, back from his early days at the University of Tennessee. Little did I know the Colts would wind up in the AFC South and he would become one of the biggest thorns in the side of my team. It can be bitter sweet seeing a college icon play for a division rival, much like VY.
All that aside, let's get back on topic please. Studdard was drafted for his work ethic and longevity. Kubes knows what he's getting with this kid because of his relationship with his father. He knows he'll work his *** off and play through anything. We need that on our O-line. I have a feeling he's going to be an instrumental part of our offense and very effective at opening holes for our RBs. The real question is how long do you think it will take for him to crack the starting lineup?

FLACKU
05-08-2007, 09:19 PM
[6] Studdard will start sooner than you think. We'll get to see alot of him in pre-season. If the Big Spencer don't make it back in time, you could see Studdard beat out Black. You all will see this was a golden pick for the 6th round. This kid is bad to the bone and that's why I made this post.

texun
05-08-2007, 11:29 PM
I like Studdard and think he was a steal. What he lacks in ability he will make up for in effort. As far as making Vince Young, that's ridiculous. VY has amazing God given abilities. Unfortunately, I don't think he will ever develop the skill to go with the talent and incredible physical abilities.

FLACKU
05-09-2007, 06:53 AM
I enjoyed watching VY when he was in college, but now he's with the Titans and doesn't mean two squirts of goat's piss to me! The reason I named this post "Kasey Studdard made Vince Young" because I knew it would suck you in like a vortex from a black hole.

baller_24
05-09-2007, 10:12 PM
I do a agree kasey studdard is a good blocker but vince young made himself with ability to scramble and we all saw that when the titans played the texans and with his strong arm. Tell me this when vince young became a star did you hear it's all because of of this blocker. NO it was all vy

Whiskeyrbl
05-12-2007, 12:53 PM
Now, I would love to know what a QB is going to teach a rookie lineman.
That by keeping him off his backside he will recieve alot of FREE MEALS.lol

Skillet
05-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Yeah, I wish we would've picked up Vince Young last year. But too bad. He's going to have to lose. But yeah, I agree.

TexansFanatic
05-12-2007, 01:46 PM
I enjoyed watching VY when he was in college, but now he's with the Titans and doesn't mean two squirts of goat's piss to me! The reason I named this post "Kasey Studdard made Vince Young" because I knew it would suck you in like a vortex from a black hole.

Mission accomplished. Well played.

austintexanite
05-14-2007, 02:18 PM
Kasey will bring some long needed attidude and a mena streak to the OL which will hopefully rub off on the other linemen. I'm pretty sure Winston has one, hopefully the other guys can get more aggressive.

TexansFanatic
05-14-2007, 02:23 PM
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but I really enjoyed this article/interview with Kasey. I don't think he'll wind up being a Hall of Famer, but I do think he was a steal and a definite overachiever type:


Link

FLACKU
05-22-2007, 11:27 PM
Thanks for the link!

Footballz
05-23-2007, 08:20 PM
Good. Hopefully he can provide our D-line with the inside scoop on VY's tendencies so we can crush him this yr.


Lol...nice.