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HoustonTexans4Life

09-26-2007, 11:59 PM

Wow, some good news for us Texans fans....

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10373639/2

The problem with Bush is that his impact on a game is extremely minimal as compared to the media hype and endorsement frenzy. I may be sick of seeing Peyton Manning's mug on television more than Larry King's but Manning is one of the top five most pivotal players in football.

Defensive coordinators have told me this season that Bush may be seen as a superstar to the general public but he is not someone who keeps them awake at night. They say he's not as fast as he looks, can be covered by a linebacker one-on-one and gets shy around contact. That last description is not exactly what you want to hear about your franchise runner.

Now we will get to see just how good Bush is and if he is worth the hype. With the loss of the Saints' real running back, Deuce McAllister, to a torn knee ligament, the team will rely heavily on Bush.

I can tell you everyone in football is watching what happens next not with the Saints but with Bush.

If Bush is so good, as his P.R. machine wants everyone to believe, he'll use McAllister's absence to prove me and his critics wrong and take the Saints on his back.

But I don't think Bush will prove anyone wrong because Bush has pulled a Mandarich on the Saints and the NFL by bamboozling many normally smart guys who should know better. His USC hype and Denzel looks overpowered the Saints' common sense. Now, they're paying the price for utilizing such a high pick on a guy who is basically Dave Meggett.

Do you remember how people were actually comparing Bush to Gayle Sayers?

Bush = Gayle Sayers. That's just insane in the membrane.

Bill Parcells called Bush a "satellite player." (Leave it to Bill "Gandolfini" Parcells to come up with some smart-*** Jersey lexicon.) Parcells went on to explain the phrase satellite player by stating Bush plays in space. Great. Now Bush is Reggie Sputnik.

The coming days and months will get interesting for Bush and the Saints. He was last year's golden dude but this season he is receiving much more scrutiny and even criticism. Bush in 2006 enjoyed a post-Katrina boost from the league, the media and fans with all three overlooking Bush's on-field shortcomings because of his charitable contributions and the team's special circumstances.

Now that the Saints are 0-3 and their best player is gone for the year, that once-present glow has thinned and reality has hit.

And the reality is that Bush is not so far off from being the 21st century version of Mandarich, the greatest draft huckster ever.

So good luck with Bush, New Orleans.

Is it too late for the Saints to draft a running back?

There's more to the story, but go ahead and click on the link to read more!

misterpc

09-27-2007, 12:08 AM

09-27-2007, 12:09 AM

NO need for me to read the rest.

That was, perhaps, the biggest SHOT a media person has ever taken at Bush...and perhaps the biggest shot taken at a single player since, well, ummm since every media person not-named-Michael W. Smith took those sort of shots at OUR guy, Mario Williams.

This is good news, IMO.

That Saints team is a wreck. And there's no way Bush is going to handle the whole job himself. He needed a power back, like Deuce, to throw defenses off so that he could "play in space" as it was said by Parcells.

Without Deuce, Bush is Enemy Target Number 1 for defenses.

There is, of course, a small chance that he somehow pulls a huge Houdini and escapes this torture chamber that he and the NFL P.R. machine have created for him. He COULD somehow catch a few defenders sleeping when they come back from the bye week, and he could essentially revive that team if he makes a few good plays and gets that team's swagger back.

If THAT happens, it will be another spin job by the media...I can see it now, in the media: BUSH IN A LANDSLIDE: HE'S THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB.

But more than likely, ths is the beginning of the end of the Bush Hype era.

1337texansfan

09-27-2007, 02:13 AM

How exactly is this good news for Texans fans?

I still think Bush compares to Gale Sayers. They have the same build and the same style of play. The only difference is that Sayers had better field awareness than Reggie has shown. People are turning on Bush because he was way too hyped up. Sayers didnt have this kind of hype when he came into the NFL.

i am not old enough to have seen him play. but i know allot about him.

sayers was the "kansas comet" coming out of college. he had as much hype in his time, comparatively speaking.

i will agree bush does not have the awareness sayers did. sayers just had a sense of what was around him, no other way to put it. reggie has his speed, he has the acceleration. but he just does not have the vision and the awareness. those last 2 are things can not be coached, they cant be taught. they are instinct.

bush is a good player who can be a great offensive weapon when put to use in a scheme that fits him. all bush hate aside, purely looking at him as a player. he is not a feature back. i hope he proves that wrong. but i just don't see it happening.

Grid

09-27-2007, 02:32 AM

How exactly is this good news for Texans fans?

Just because it isnt about a Texans player, doesnt mean it isnt good news for Texans fans.

Seriously..lets not take this whole "They arent on our team, so they dont matter" thing too far. I can understand yall not wanting to have news about Carr, Bush, and Young taking precedence over news about our own guys.. but we dont have to act like it doesnt exist or has no bearing on our reality.

This is good news for Texans fans for the very obvious reason that we may have dodged a bullet and come out of the 2006-2007 draft smelling like roses, despite what the majority of the mass media said. And now, if Bush DOES turn out to be Mandarich 2.0, then the mass media is going to have to own up to the fact that they became drunk on their own kool-aid and the Texans actually DID make the smart pick.

misterpc

09-27-2007, 03:42 AM

sorry but i still dont buy it. If Reggie starts playing well, are you going to call it bad news for Texans fans? Reggie's performance is not news for Texans fans one way or the other IMO. The only reason it matters at all is because the Texans play the Saints this season. There is only one man who can prove our 2006 draft pick was the right choice, and that man is Mario Williams. I think it is bad taste to wish for Reggie and Vince to do poorly so that we look better.

HoustonTexans4Life

09-27-2007, 07:11 AM

I said it's good news for Texans fans because since we have been hearing all this Reggie hype and being trashed for picking Mario over Bush and Young, I figured it was good to hear this type of story for a change.....

HuttoKarl

09-27-2007, 07:19 AM

I don't even care about Reggie Bush or Vince Young anymore unless we're playing against them. We've got a heck of a QB right now and I'm glad Schaub's our guy. Even though we're hurting in the running game at the MOMENT due to injury, we've improved vastly over last season in that area. Mario is pressuring the pocket nicely this season and love the Okoye pick so far. I have enough trust in our front office to not question every single move the team makes.

Bladerunner

09-27-2007, 07:23 AM

How well Reggie Bush plays is only of importance to us on Nov 18.

HuttoKarl

09-27-2007, 08:31 AM

How well Reggie Bush plays is only of importance to us on Nov 18.

Exactly...and VY...he matters to me when we're playing the Titans. In Schaub We Trust.

Dime

09-27-2007, 08:35 AM

it gets worse for Bush.

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10373639

Sorry. this was the first page.

TexansFan99

09-27-2007, 02:00 PM

It's neither good news or bad news. It's totally irrelevant to Texans fans.

rex king

09-27-2007, 02:17 PM

I loved to point out Bush's shortcomings when people were saying the Texans should have taken him instead of Mario, but blame the media. They miscast him as something he wasn't. An NFL running back. Those skinny legs... I think he can still be a very good player as a slot receiver/returner.

misterpc

09-27-2007, 03:28 PM

There should be no way, shape or form any comparisons to Sayers. Sayers was a Running Back and Bush is not. There is no compression. If you wanna compare Bush to anybody, you compare him to the Eric Metcalf's of he world. Those "tweeners" that make a huge splash in college but do nothing as pros. Gayle Sayers was a very good running back, not slot back, not wide receiver, running back. Bush has yet, if ever, to show anything at the running back spot.

Gale Sayers- 6'0", 200 lbs
Reggie Bush- 6'0", 203 lbs

If Bush is a tweener, then so was Gale Sayers. They play almost the exact same game, if you cant notice the similarities than you arent looking closely enough. Both backs have extraordinary speed/acceleration and make crazy highlight real cuts. Like I said before, the difference is Sayers had better field awareness. Sayers produced in the NFL and Bush hasnt. Other than those differences, they are very similar.

DeclanJr

09-27-2007, 03:33 PM

Bush sucks! I'm so glad we didn't draft him!

HomeGrownTexan

09-27-2007, 04:11 PM

Gale Sayers- 6'0", 200 lbs
Reggie Bush- 6'0", 203 lbs

If Bush is a tweener, then so was Gale Sayers. They play almost the exact same game, if you cant notice the similarities than you arent looking closely enough. Both backs have extraordinary speed/acceleration and make crazy highlight real cuts. Like I said before, the difference is Sayers had better field awareness. Sayers produced in the NFL and Bush hasnt. Other than those differences, they are very similar.

Like the other poster said, your just listing hieght and weight.

Bush and Sayers' athletic ability were similar (Sayers had much more quickness, cutting ability, and superior vision though) People also forget that Sayers had a devastating knee injury that robbed him of his extrodinary cutting ability and elite speed.........people said he would never come back from it. (Remember this was back in the day when a knee injury meant your career was over)

He wanted to come back and prove people wrong. The very next year he came back and ran for 1,000 yards (back when a 1,000 yards actually meant something) and he did it without a run over 28 yards. He ran through people and over people.......BETWEEN the tackles to get it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iLGPEAq5snw

Bush and Sayers are nothing alike, Bush hasn't even been able to get a run over 20 yards with healthy knees.

misterpc

09-27-2007, 04:36 PM

Like the other poster said, your just listing hieght and weight.

Bush and Sayers' athletic ability were similar (Sayers had much more quickness, cutting ability, and superior vision though) People also forget that Sayers had a devastating knee injury that robbed him of his extrodinary cutting ability and elite speed.........people said he would never come back from it. (Remember this was back in the day when a knee injury meant your career was over)

He wanted to come back and prove people wrong. The very next year he came back and ran for 1,000 yards (back when a 1,000 yards actually meant something) and he did it without a run over 28 yards. He ran through people and over people.......BETWEEN the tackles to get it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iLGPEAq5snw

Bush and Sayers are nothing alike, Bush hasn't even been able to get a run over 20 yards with healthy knees.

Bush and Sayers have the same build and the same athletic ability, that makes them similar in my opinion. They also both make rediculous cuts that make diffenders look silly. Sayers was more effective, but they have some very striking similarities. I cant think of one runningback that is more similar to Gale Sayers than Reggie Bush. Keep in mind Im not saying Bush is as good as Sayers.

HomeGrownTexan

09-27-2007, 04:53 PM

Bush and Sayers have the same build and the same athletic ability, that makes them similar in my opinion. They also both make rediculous cuts that make diffenders look silly. Sayers was more effective, but they have some very striking similarities. I cant think of one runningback that is more similar to Gale Sayers than Reggie Bush. Keep in mind Im not saying Bush is as good as Sayers.

The have similar "athletic" ability, but as far as vision goes, it's not even close.

Sayers made defenders look silly........Bush made defenders look silly....in college. In the NFL he gets tackled from behind by LBs.

TexasJedi

09-27-2007, 05:25 PM

In regards to Bush & Sayers' physical similarities/differences, Jason Whitlock, yes Jason Whitlock actually made a good point about this.

In this era — when 245-pound linebackers run 4.5 40s, 210-pound safeties run 4.5 40s and 260-pound defensive ends run 4.6 40s — Gale Sayers would be a third-down back and return man.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7270180?MSNHPHMA

I don't care for Whitlock but, call it broken clock syndrome or whatever, on this one he is right.

HomeGrownTexan

09-27-2007, 05:38 PM

In regards to Bush & Sayers' physical similarities/differences, Jason Whitlock, yes Jason Whitlock actually made a good point about this.

I don't care for Whitlock but, call it broken clock syndrome or whatever, on this one he is right.

Yeah, I can buy that. In his day, Sayers was just so far ahead of everybody else on the field..........today defenses are just as athletic as the most athletic offensive skill players.

The evolution of the game would of caught up with Mr. Sayers, the way it has closed the gap on players like Reggie Bush.

For a player to be as dominant as Sayers was in the past, you'll probably need a player that has Adrian Peterson's build, sub 4.3 speed, the ability to cut on a dime, and a player that has unbelievable acceleration and explosiveness, with unparraled vision

A 5 tool RB.......

Different backs have some of these different traits, but it's very rare for one to have them all. In his time Sayers had them all.

TexansFanatic

09-27-2007, 09:53 PM

Was anyone else shocked that this writer couldn't get the spelling right on Sayers' name?

G-A-L-E

fredthered66

09-27-2007, 10:56 PM

Wow, some good news for us Texans fans....

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10373639/2

There's more to the story, but go ahead and click on the link to read more!

While I agree with the sentiment of the story, this is the exact same reporting that made Reggie a "star" and so loathed around these parts. How does a guy go from Hall of Fame running back comparisons to top 5 draft bust of all time comparison in 21 games? The media created this monster through hyperboly and hype, and now they are like sharks smelling blood, eager to make a headline by bringing down the star... no news like bad news. As a journalist myslef, Im pretty disgusted at how the media has handled this whole situation (although there is no excuse for those "Madden" adds around draft time, thats all on him). Just once, I wish that if someone dosnt have anything perticulalry new or insightful to say, they wouldnt disguise that fact through hyperbolie and wild guesses.

Dont get me wrong, I smirk everytime Reggie gets popped for a loss in the backfiled (Saints games are fun to watch) or drops a pass, but just like the media jammed his greatness down our throats to the point where a good portion of us Texan fans have genuine dislike for a person we have never met, they are just repeating the cycle with articles like this. Basically, its just wrong.

fredthered66

09-27-2007, 11:00 PM

misterpc

09-27-2007, 11:42 PM

so now everybody seems to be agreeing with me. Reggie is very similar to Sayers. They are from different eras, and Sayers had better field awareness, but they are remarkably similar. If Bush was playing in Sayers time period, he might be performing a lot better.

HomeGrownTexan

09-27-2007, 11:44 PM

edit

misterpc

09-28-2007, 12:07 AM

I'm not, Reggie Bush has shown nothing in the NFL as a running back to warrant such a comparison. Reggie Bush will always be compared, in my mind, to Eric Metcalf, it just so happens Bush is about 2 inches taller and 20 lbs heavier. The only similarities between Bush and Sayers is physical. Sayers was a true running back with great speed and talent and could run through a player as could run away from one. Bush cannot even run away from LBs let alone run through somebody. You cannot compare what Bush did in college to what Sayers did in the NFL, it's comparing apples to rotten oranges. Bush did what he did against other kids while Sayers was doing what he did against grown men. No comparison....

Saying that Reggie is similar to Sayers does not mean Reggie is as good as Sayers. Also, as pointed out earlier, line backers were not nearly as fast back then as they are now. Just for entertainment purposes, here are some clips of Sayers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLGPEAq5snw&mode=related&search=

what really reminds me of Reggie is the story Floyd Peters tells at 2:30

misterpc

09-28-2007, 12:31 AM

Ok, name one running back, active or retired, who is more similar to Gale Sayers than Reggie Bush.

Grid

09-28-2007, 01:23 AM

Ok, name one running back, active or retired, who is more similar to Gale Sayers than Reggie Bush.

Thats kind of silly.

"more similar" does not mean "equal to".

if I handed you a banana, a piece of lint, and a Ford F-150 and told you to tell me which one is most similar to a NASA space shuttle.. you would have to say the truck.. but that doesnt mean you can fly to the moon in your F-150.

(edit: btw..if im totally off base..just ignore me..I didnt bother to read the whole discussion.)

BIG ERN

09-28-2007, 01:26 AM

Do not understand why we should be happy.Reggie was never going to help us.

Grid

09-28-2007, 02:11 AM

ahh..ok well if that is the case then my comment did apply to the conversation.

I was pointing out that it doesnt matter if Reggie Bush is the most similar RB to Gale Sayers ever to play the game... being the most similar does not make him "just as good".

And ill take this opportunity to reiterate the fact that it doesnt really matter that Bush isnt a Texans player.. he is tied to the franchise for the time being. He is the "sure fire" pick that we skipped on to take a guy that most people felt was a risk, if not an outright bust, from the get-go.

If Bush plays poorly, then that reflects more favorably on this team and the front office's ability to make good football decisions.

If you cant acknowledge that, then you are in a very deep state of denial. Get over it people... Bush and Young will both be tied to the Texans, and Mario Williams, until it has been determined once and for all which pick was the best one.

misterpc

09-28-2007, 02:19 AM

Are talking running style or just physical make-up? Let's see, from that video clip I saw a bit of....

OJ Simpson
Barry Sanders
Marcus Allen
Bo Jackson
Eric Dickerson
Walter Payton

See I saw 2 different running back in the same player. I saw a scat back that could cut on a dime, ie Barry Sanders, before the knee injury, then saw anybody from Simpson to Jackson after the injury.

that is 6 backs off the top of my head that look more like Gale Sayers than Reggie Bush ever has and those guys did it in the NFL as well as college...

Look we could go at this all night. We both have opinions on Reggie Bush. I can give you that Bush is built like Sayers but until Bush does anything remotely close to what Sayers did as a running back in the NFL, not in college, then physical make-up is all I can give Bush credit for...

I dont mean to split hairs, but there is an important difference here. I said Bush is similar to Sayers, I did NOT say Bush has had similar success as Sayers. They have very similar size, similar athletic ability, and similar approach to the position. That makes them similar. I know Sayers had more success in the NFL than Bush has, but that in no way means that Bush is not reminiscent of Sayers. All of the running backs you mentioned are very good backs, and they are on a level of greatness similar to Sayers, but none of them are more in the mold of Sayers than Reggie Bush IMO.

TxnRckr

10-10-2007, 10:29 PM

Hmmm.... Interesting.
Does anyone with a Brain still wished we had drafted Bush?!
Initially I had only wanted Bush's stats, but couldn't help putting A.G. on too, since he was ranked right there. Pretty good stats from Green, esp. we you weigh in have many games he has MISSED! Great well AG, we need ya.
--Personally I'm glad that WE passed on someone that can't run between the tackles!
Go to the stats pg on NFL.com to verify, if you don't believe me...
While you're there go ahead & look & see how Vince is NOT doing compared
to OUR QB!
Said IT before, I'll say It again...takes MORE than speed & being a "good athlete" to make a Pro QB...

Rank Player Team Pos Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM

44 Ahman Green HOU RB 35 11.7 149 4.3 49.7 1 18 10 28.6 0 0
0
45 Reggie Bush NO RB 50 12.5 147 2.9 36.8 2 13 12 24.0 0 0
2

SO...is Bush a bust...? ...and possibly a future convict.
I'm sure the Dallas Cartel will sign him, if Naw'Lens gives him the boot!
= P

B420tx

10-10-2007, 10:42 PM

-Sigh- who cares, we got the best deal. (Maybe tied with the jets and D'brick .. or maybe they got the better one.) At least Reggie is rolling in the endorsement deals.

FFTeamon

10-10-2007, 10:48 PM

As of today, that draft (as in top guys) have fallen way short of expectations. Time will tell if they all blossom though.

misterpc

10-10-2007, 10:55 PM

Are we going to keep getting these threads every week?

argazul

10-10-2007, 11:01 PM

I think I'm going to head over to the "I need a beer" thread after reading yet another Bush thread.

Footballz

10-10-2007, 11:13 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ys-bush100907&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The NCAA appears to be on the verge of a major breakthrough in its investigation of Heisman Trophy-winning running back Reggie Bush.

Two sources have told Yahoo! Sports that Lloyd Lake, one of the financiers of failed marketing company New Era Sports & Entertainment, has agreed to meet with NCAA investigators and turn over financial records and other evidence that would tie Bush and his family to nearly $280,000 in extra benefits allegedly taken during Bush's days at USC. Lake – one of two New Era financiers who allegedly delivered cash payments and other benefits to Bush and his family – is preparing to file suit against Bush and his family later this month.

Sources said that Lake's meeting with the NCAA could include discussion of Bush's relationship with New Era Sports – from financial records and receipts to how and when payments were made – and information about other parties who might have had financial involvement with the running back and his family. Such revelations would likely allow the NCAA's slowed investigation to move forward.

misterpc

10-10-2007, 11:15 PM

here's another one that belongs in the freshly merged home for redundant reggie bush threads.

B420tx

10-10-2007, 11:41 PM

here's another one that belongs in the freshly merged home for redundant reggie bush threads.

Yay Trash Can 2.0! :D

HydrOshocK

10-11-2007, 07:34 AM

Thats kind of silly.

"more similar" does not mean "equal to".

if I handed you a banana, a piece of lint, and a Ford F-150 and told you to tell me which one is most similar to a NASA space shuttle.. you would have to say the truck.. but that doesnt mean you can fly to the moon in your F-150.

(edit: btw..if im totally off base..just ignore me..I didnt bother to read the whole discussion.)

Not that I have any interest in keeping this thread alive, but this is freakin hilarious! :D

great analogy

HAHAHAHA

Towlie

10-11-2007, 03:35 PM

i am not old enough to have seen him play. but i know allot about him.

sayers was the "kansas comet" coming out of college. he had as much hype in his time, comparatively speaking.

i will agree bush does not have the awareness sayers did. sayers just had a sense of what was around him, no other way to put it. reggie has his speed, he has the acceleration. but he just does not have the vision and the awareness. those last 2 are things can not be coached, they cant be taught. they are instinct.

bush is a good player who can be a great offensive weapon when put to use in a scheme that fits him. all bush hate aside, purely looking at him as a player. he is not a feature back. i hope he proves that wrong. but i just don't see it happening.

Only kind of scheme that fits him is a option scheme with a great running QB(VY) or a run and gun(him as a flanker) or the Cy-fair one, just hand the ball to the RB let him make plays or get injured lol.

Houston_Fanatic

10-11-2007, 11:36 PM

When commercials are made to jab a stick at the organization and the fans of that organization for not taking said player #1. How soon we forget....

I think we need to make a commercial to play during the 2008 draft where they play a snip of Bush "thanking us" for passing on him and the whole team salutes and says "You're WELCOME!"

HydrOshocK

10-12-2007, 10:51 AM

I think we need to make a commercial to play during the 2008 draft where they play a snip of Bush "thanking us" for passing on him and the whole team salutes and says "You're WELCOME!"

LOL...not bad

misterpc

10-14-2007, 11:37 PM

Since it seems to be a hobby with some Texans fans, I'm wondering would anyone like to comment on Reggie Bush's game this week?

HomeGrownTexan

10-14-2007, 11:40 PM

Since it seems to be a hobby with some Texans fans, I'm wondering would anyone like to comment on Reggie Bush's game this week?

Dammit I didn't see the game............did Reggie Bush score a couple of touchdowns or something?

WesmanTexanfan

10-14-2007, 11:45 PM

Dammit I didn't see the game............did Reggie Bush score a couple of touchdowns or something?

19 att 97 yds, 6 ctch 44 yds, 1 fumble lost.....

HomeGrownTexan

10-14-2007, 11:49 PM

19 att 97 yds, 6 ctch 44 yds, 1 fumble lost.....

So he had a good game, but did he score a touchdown?

WesmanTexanfan

10-14-2007, 11:55 PM

So he had a good game, but did he score a touchdown?

no......

misterpc

10-14-2007, 11:58 PM

So he had a good game, but did he score a touchdown?

Nope no TD. But he did put up over 5 ypc and actually ran between the tackles effectively. He also contributed significantly as a reciever and broke more than a couple plays for first downs when it looked like nothing was there. I think he will develop into a good NFL player. I also thing Texans fans should stop obsessing over Bush. Some Houston fans salivate whenever Reggie has a poor game, but you know it must hurt them when he does well. My advice is stop caring about what he does so much, it has no bearing on the Texans. The forum doesnt need a new Reggie Bush thread every couple days.

HomeGrownTexan

10-15-2007, 12:04 AM

Nope no TD. But he did put up over 5 ypc and actually ran between the tackles effectively. He also contributed significantly as a reciever and broke more than a couple plays for first downs when it looked like nothing was there. I think he will develop into a good NFL player. I also thing Texans fans should stop obsessing over Bush. Some Houston fans salivate whenever Reggie has a poor game, but you know it must hurt them when he does well. My advice is stop caring about what he does so much, it has no bearing on the Texans. The forum doesnt need a new Reggie Bush thread every couple days.

I really don't give a rat's *** about Reggie Bush. If I wanted to beat myself over the head about not taking a RB with that pick, I'll beat myself over the head thinking about MJD. That guy is special and is everything Reggie was supposed to be.

misterpc

10-15-2007, 12:06 AM

I really don't give a rat's *** about Reggie Bush. If I wanted to beat myself over the head about not taking a RB with that pick, I'll beat myself over the head thinking about MJD. That guy is special and is everything Reggie was supposed to be.

I would have rather taken hometown hero Addai if we were going pick a running back. You're probably not part of the problem i was refering to earlier. It just seems to me like i see a new Bush thread everytime i come here, in the Texans section as well as the NFL section, and I wish people werent still hung up on the guy.

HomeGrownTexan

10-15-2007, 12:14 AM

1337texansfan

10-15-2007, 02:14 AM

I like Addai, but I'd rather have MJD. With how physical he is and the power he runs with, his size actually benefits him. It is nearly impossible to put a clean hit on him and you can't even see the guy until he clears his lineman.........by the time he does, it's too late.

When ever Taylor finally hangs them up people are going to see how special this guy is........he's a game changer.

well said.

bush had a decent game from what little i saw(watch first half). i still dont believe he got a 20+ yard run yet.

his first run i wasnt really impressed with. the defense bit on a faked end-around dive. bush bolted for about 17 yards. the few runs he had that i saw that were grinding yard he got little over 2. he had some nice plays. cant bash him much. he played solid tonight and quieted some of his critics.

that was about the best night bush could have asked for. brees playing well helps take alot of pressure on bush in the running game. bush goes as brees goes.

regardless of tonight. i still dont think reggie is a every down back.

TEXANottoMAN

10-15-2007, 10:53 AM

regardless of tonight. i still dont think reggie is a every down back.

I agree. Most teams will run a 2 back offense.

IMO: I think he is still overrated (and fast).

BIG ERN

10-15-2007, 10:57 AM

Reggie Blows

BIG ERN

11-12-2007, 02:52 PM

Why do all media sources defend Reggie Bush?He went 7 carries for 17 yards.I think he blamed his horrible performance on a concussion.Earth to Reggie : Football is a contact sport (especially for running backs).

J-Storm

11-13-2007, 06:15 AM

HuttoKarl

11-13-2007, 07:16 AM

Dude, seriously, ppl need to learn to get over the 'Hatorade' when it comes to Bush & Young. They aren't even our players. Why worry about how many carries or yards he got. We should be used to it with our RB's, worry about our own backyard first & clean it up before we rip other teams players...

You have to admit that after a year and a half of hearing how awful our draft was (even though players in that Houston draft class have been big contributors) that we have every right to revel in VY and RB's mediocrity.

caddy

11-13-2007, 09:02 AM

Storm, for some sad reason... It seems that by putting someone down, it's needed to make that person stand taller in their own mind. Bush is a good, back. Nowhere as great as his hype was claiming he was " Great, and would reset record books " in fact I had a chip on my shoulder against him. After watching him take some really good hits, I had to admit he is a good back, with some good moves and speed. Nothing great, but far from a " Bust "

Sportswriter79

11-13-2007, 09:12 AM

I am going to be careful about criticizing Reggie Bush at this point. He is potentially set up to have one of the best games of his short career against us on Sunday.

People are finding some optimism in the facts that the Saints lost to the Rams last week and that our Texans have had a week off to heal and get Matt and AJ back.

I think that there is a strong possibilty that the Saints and Reggie are going to come to Houston very focused and ready to get back on track, and that we could come out very flat after an off week, and starting guys that haven't played in weeks.

El Tejano

11-13-2007, 12:24 PM

HydrOshocK

11-13-2007, 03:57 PM

I know he is just a rookie but Fred Bennett has played beyond expectations when given the chance. Dunta is awesome but maybe just maybe the Texans see they have a chance at doing something special still. You have to play the game.

One thing is for sure. Bennett's confidence level is extremely high right now.....borderline cocky, and maybe that's a good thing. We really need him to step up big for us right now so we need him to be at his highest level of confidence.

11-13-2007, 07:34 PM

Come on don't stop the fight now. Heck it was just getting interesting, come on throw another jab. Basically this all pointless, because we got Mario & NO's got Bush. In the long haul we will come out ahead.I will say this thread has been fun reading.:D

DeclanJr

11-14-2007, 01:38 PM

jab, eh?

reggie bush sucks!!!!!

I second that...I'd also like to add, Vince Young sucks!!!

HuttoKarl

11-19-2007, 09:23 AM

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j34/karlmeyer1975/ape-bush-no-tb-j.jpg

Darkninja

11-19-2007, 09:58 AM