schaubs few flaws

[koshea]

i love schaub, he is the fture of the texans, but sadly he has a few HORRIBLE flaws

first off, he fumbles just about every other time he gets sacked
second, he has alot of under or overthrown balls

comments

[Sprtsfanatic]

agree on the underthrown balls and he has been throwing behind his receivers A LOT lately, but his fumbles on the sacks...well our line gets a lot of credit for those untimely hits on schaub.

[paco123]

I will agree with the problems with fumbling the ball. But honestly if you were a qb getting sacked by a 250 pound man wouldn't you have trouble holding on the ball? If he saw him coming He probably wouldn't have lost it.

[outofhnd]

well when you get hit from the blindside, hard to know its coming let alone secure the ball. Salaam is stating to show flaws. Schaub is an upgrade but until we get a LT. Get used to this

[koshea]

if i was a 232 pound 6 foot 5 man, playing in the NFL, no, i wouldnt fumble

[Oilers2Texans]

He WILL get better. This is his first year as a starter.

[ThaShark316]

the fumbles thing...ehh...i noticed most if not all are blind side fumbles...those are kinda hard to avoid..

overthrows...ehh again...cuz they happen from time to time...

[HJam72]

Schaub doesn't tuck and run soon enough, or at least tuck the ball in and protect it. This is the opposite of Carr, who ran at the first sign of pressure, whether he needed to or not (if he knew it was coming).

It's nice to have a QB who can scramble around a little, not freak out, and make plays with his arm. However, this is getting rediculous. He tries to buy too much time, and he fumbles way too much for the number of times he's been sacked. Every time he gets touched by a defender, I expect the ball to go rolling along without him. Better to give up and take a sack now and then than to fumble the ball several times every game.

He also needs to quit under-throwing the long balls. That's getting out of hand too. The throws aren't that bad, but he does it EVERY time.

[Sprtsfanatic]

He WILL get better. This is his first year as a starter.

yes he will get better and that alone should bring some hope for next season, but we will NEED A GOOD LT in order for Schaub to reach full potential.

[outofhnd]

LOL, I Am sure Schaub would throw you the bird right now HJam and it would be right on target. 1 they took away Owen 2 Walter did good when he was open 3 our line is not good against a premier front 4 like the jags

[koshea]

^^^exactly, he makes his players make huge catches

[B420tx]

He seems to have a tendancy to sometimes overthrow the ball in the endzone, as if something in his mind is telling him "Don't underthrow it for a pick" and it sails out of reach of our WR.

Still love him as our QB.

[BIG ERN]

He had a sure TD and over threw his receiver.

[Sportswriter79]

Schaub doesn't tuck and run soon enough, or at least tuck the ball in and protect it. This is the opposite of Carr, who ran at the first sign of pressure, whether he needed to or not (if he knew it was coming).

It's nice to have a QB who can scramble around a little, not freak out, and make plays with his arm. However, this is getting rediculous. He tries to buy too much time, and he fumbles way too much for the number of times he's been sacked. Every time he gets touched by a defender, I expect the ball to go rolling along without him. Better to give up and take a sack now and then than to fumble the ball several times every game.

He also needs to quit under-throwing the long balls. That's getting out of hand too. The throws aren't that bad, but he does it EVERY time.

Agree.

[DeclanJr]

Overall I'm ecstatic with Schaub. He missed on a TD throw today, but this is still his first full season. I think he makes plays downfield to receivers that would never have been made with our former QB. He certainly doesn't fumble as much as the aformentioned QB. He will get better with time. I say we look at this season as just a glimpse of possible greatness in the future.

[phan1]

His arm isn't fantastic, and he's easily blindsided. I won't call him a "fumbler" yet like Carr or Kurt Warner, but he is a guy that can get blindsided. The solution: Get a F'n Left Tackle!

But overall, I don't think there is any doubt that Shaub will be our guy for a darn long time. He's consistent, which is very rare in the NFL, and he's got good decision making skills. I'm happy with him.

[outofhnd]

i like the fact a different player seems to be his recipient every week, Davis, Daniels, now Walter?

Carr never spread the ball like that.

[paco123]

I'm really looking forward to next season. Not that I'm ruling out this season of a possible wild card spot or anything, Its just that in another year Schaub will have a full year under his belt, We can fill in ALOT of the wholes we have on both offense and defense and finally get that star running back we've been looking for in the draft.

[misterpc]

Schuab still has developing to do, remember he is practically a rookie. He is doing a fine job, better offensive line/running game/recievers would help him out. His play has been good enough, there is some room for improvement and I expect he will only get better.

[Sportswriter79]

Schuab still has developing to do.

Definitely. Maybe time to think about bringing in Sage.

[SuperstarII]

i love schaub, he is the fture of the texans, but sadly he has a few HORRIBLE flaws

first off, he fumbles just about every other time he gets sacked
second, he has alot of under or overthrown balls

comments

His number one flaw is........




the red zone!

I think the word red frightens him. I think maybe we should rename it too the blue zone? Its kind of like how kids in school got the red pen in schools gone cause it "frightened" them when they saw the mark of failure on their tests.

[DeclanJr]

His number one flaw is........




the red zone!

I think the word red frightens him. I think maybe we should rename it too the blue zone? Its kind of like how kids got the red pen in schools gone cause it "frightened" them when they saw the mark.

You have to chalk some of that up to playcalling. Kubiak or Sherman is not getting creative enough.

[Sportswriter79]

You have to chalk some of that up to playcalling. Kubiak or Sherman is not getting creative enough.


But the play call to Walter in the end zone was a very good one. He was just overthrown.

[schaubisgod]

Most of the times I see him fumble, he is gettign blindsided by a defensive lineman running at full speed because of a blown block on the left side. When Schaub is given ample time (and really, even when he isn't) he can make a play. It's his first year as a starter, he isn't going to be Tom Brady. Anyone expecting flawlessness is a complete *****. Considering that 3 of his 5 interceptions have been WR tips...I would say that he is doing all right.

[Marcus]

This loss is squarely on his shoulders.



Oh dear God! :rolleyes:

[TEXANottoMAN]

Too Dramatic Voltdog

[Towlie]

Both of his sack fumble recovered by the defense was salaam getting raped by the DE

[GT]

Geez how can you place blame on Schaub, the only fault with Schaub is he is trying to carry this team to victories & yes he has thrown some high passes & a fumble or two.The high throws are excitement & fumbles from porous line blocks.As the season progress' you will see a good QB in the making.He has already taken us further than our last so please don't fault your QB till all the pieces of the puzzle are in place.

[redkoolaid]

His arm isn't fantastic, and he's easily blindsided. I won't call him a "fumbler" yet like Carr or Kurt Warner, but he is a guy that can get blindsided. The solution: Get a F'n Left Tackle!

But overall, I don't think there is any doubt that Shaub will be our guy for a darn long time. He's consistent, which is very rare in the NFL, and he's got good decision making skills. I'm happy with him.

I don't understand why people say this about Schaub. He isn't JaMarcus Russell...but he definitely isnt Chad Pennington

In all actuality I think Schaub has Good arm strength...he makes a lot of throws that are darts that are fit in the seems between multiple defenders..

I just think in Kubiaks offense it doesnt call for Schaub to heave 65 yard bombs..

[foozball]

it kinda pisses me off that we dont let schaub throw in the redzone more often. we always try to run it, and we always fail.

as for that deep throw that was underthrown, he threw that ball a split second before the DL reached him. given a bit more time, he'd have put more on that throw.

but hey, at least he gets the ball downfield and at least gives us a chance at getting to the redzone, or do yall not remember those 4 yard dumpoffs from last year?

[koshea]

now i need to clairfy, i wasnt blaming the game on him, there were many others who need to take blame....andre davis, DIVE into the endzone, dont EVER stick the ball out like that, and salaam, BLOCK YOU EFFING GUY....sure, he was blindsided, but you need to hold onto the ball, however, i do love schaubs ability to buy time, roll out, and hit k-walter for 20 yards across his body while running out of bounds and having a 300 pound lineman arms length away, those are the intangibles schaub posesses, fumbling can be fixed

[outofhnd]

Im sure that is what schaub will say but this is a team effort and both sides of the ball as well as the sidelines just kind of disintegrated.

This loss was like the loss in tennessee last year. Everything just fell apart. We abandoned the run early, we never really tested the edges on runs we always ran off RG and RT. We never really had a gamebreaker play. We called mixed coverages and prayed we got the same Garrard we got last year in Jacksonville. Our O line really never got a push, Our QB missed some passes, Our DL didnt get enough penetration, Our LBS missed some tackles, Our CBs left some people open and picked up penalties,Our safeties missed some tackles.

Good news is we are 3-3

[HydrOshocK]

Im sure that is what schaub will say but this is a team effort and both sides of the ball as well as the sidelines just kind of disintegrated.

This loss was like the loss in tennessee last year. Everything just fell apart. We abandoned the run early, we never really tested the edges on runs we always ran off RG and RT. We never really had a gamebreaker play. We called mixed coverages and prayed we got the same Garrard we got last year in Jacksonville. Our O line really never got a push, Our QB missed some passes, Our DL didnt get enough penetration, Our LBS missed some tackles, Our CBs left some people open and picked up penalties,Our safeties missed some tackles.

Good news is we are 3-3

Well said Sir

[JO Texan]

Let's take a little closer look at what Schaub has done.

Elevated the play of our offense.
Stretched the field by throwing consistantly over 4 yrd passes
Spread the ball abound to multiple receivers
Helped balance the possession battle

AND HE HAS ONLY BEEN THE STARTER FOR 6, YES 6, GAMES.

He may throw and few bad passes here and there, but i'll take that over what we had the last 5 yrs. Atleast the games are exciting to watch.

[koshea]

except didnt we face leftwich last year

[Griz]

Maybe some of those white gloves that everybody are talking about will help hold on to the ball.

[outofhnd]

if our defense didnt miss tackles how did fred taylor run for 75 yards on the opening drive?

[texanaggie]

Schuab still has developing to do, remember he is practically a rookie. He is doing a fine job, better offensive line/running game/recievers would help him out. His play has been good enough, there is some room for improvement and I expect he will only get better.

Recievers are you kidding me, yes oline and RB, but WR's you must be smoking something, Iam happy with our wr's we need some other major things like rb's, and o-line and a back-up for Bennett aka Faggins replacement.....

AJ, Walters, Jacoby Jones,Andre Davis, and not for nothing david anderson has come up with some clutch catches.....

[outofhnd]

except didnt we face leftwich last year

In the game @ Jacksonville Leftwich was already injured Garrard threw like 3 ints

[texanaggie]

for all your Shaubs haters or i think he needs to make those throws like a starter should take a look at this

passing leaders

1. Tom Brady 1771
2. Brett Farve 1715
3. Tony h--omo 1707
4. Matt Schaub 1558
5. Derek Anderson 1496

that looks like a good group to be in

so step off on the schaub hating and the wr hating, now we do need a RB and some o-line help, seems flannagan isnt getting it done, salaam is getting beat outside way too much , winston dude come on your better than that dude you are getting beat outside also way too much and for gods sake block someone and stay with him

i think this off-season and draft beeds to be offensive 1st pick good thing this yr will be a good draft for rb's

dont get me wrong though i'm not giving up on the team that is on the field rigth now......

[outofhnd]

I don't think we go RB in round 1 I think some of these RBs will fall in the draft and we still may trade for picks.

[texanaggie]

I don't think we go RB in round 1 I think some of these RBs will fall in the draft and we still may trade for picks.

i can agree with that , i really dont care where we get another rb lets just get one to help ahman like a jones-drew/taylor tandem

[outofhnd]

PJ Hill or Tashard Choice.

[Footballz]

Maybe some of those white gloves that everybody are talking about will help hold on to the ball.



Or the black ones. How about red?

[SuperstarII]

for all your Shaubs haters or i think he needs to make those throws like a starter should take a look at this

passing leaders

1. Tom Brady 1771
2. Brett Farve 1715
3. Tony h--omo 1707
4. Matt Schaub 1558
5. Derek Anderson 1496

that looks like a good group to be in

so step off on the schaub hating and the wr hating, now we do need a RB and some o-line help, seems flannagan isnt getting it done, salaam is getting beat outside way too much , winston dude come on your better than that dude you are getting beat outside also way too much and for gods sake block someone and stay with him

i think this off-season and draft beeds to be offensive 1st pick good thing this yr will be a good draft for rb's

dont get me wrong though i'm not giving up on the team that is on the field rigth now......

NOBODY IS A HATER We are just pointing out his flaws. The only offensive linemen I blame are either Salaam or Flannagan. Schaub has a phobia and its called the red zone. If he breaks that man he will be a monster one day.

[sleepwalker]

I think he's going to be great for us. He gets a little bit rattled sometimes.

I don't mind, his pocket presense is far superior to Carr's.

[Olajuwon]

Good news is we are 3-3
Thas what I'm saying....I like this team overall 8-8 or 9-7 still a good possibility.