David Carr: I've Never Been Around Talent Like This Before

[Tulip]

It's best that I just pass this on and don't say anything.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4780266.html

[Footballz]

Why not say anything?
I read that. You think the Texans have been loaded with talent? [|-)]

[We All Knew He Was A Bust]

I miss David Carr he was the heart and sould of our team all those great HEB comercials and my god those momentum BMW commercials. as a matter of fact im going to look for them on youtube right now.

[Vinny]

It's best that I just pass this on and don't say anything.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4780266.html


Carr has never been real sharp...we play them game 2. I'm sure this will be all over the locker room.

[Macaronitoni]

I love the part where David Carr says something along the lines of football is fun again, and its refreshing to actually want to go to work again. Yet he was constantly saying how he wanted to stay a Texan.

[We All Knew He Was A Bust]

It's best that I just pass this on and don't say anything.


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Carr has never been real sharp...we play them game 2. I'm sure this will be all over the locker room.


it would be more meaningfull if he was the starter for the panthers but i doubt he can beat jake out of a job. i think its safe to assume David will be a career back up QB.

[HydrOshocK]

"You've got to enjoy the game," Carr said. "If you're not having fun, it's going to be like what I had the last couple of years where you almost don't even want to come to work."

It helps when you're actually GOOD at your job.

[Grid]

boy..I dunno whats up with our ex-players. They are all lieing *****s. They will swear up and down that they love being a Texan, that everything is great here..nothing is wrong and its all gonna get better.. then they go to another team and shoot thier mouth off.

Hey whatever.. I HAD respect for David Carr as a classy guy, but now he just looks like a two-faced whiner. He is gonna rot on that bench in Carolina, and ill be glad to see him leaving the league as hardly even a blip on the NFL radar.

[Texans86]

boy..I dunno whats up with our ex-players. They are all lieing *****s. They will swear up and down that they love being a Texan, that everything is great here..nothing is wrong and its all gonna get better.. then they go to another team and shoot thier mouth off.

Hey whatever.. I HAD respect for David Carr as a classy guy, but now he just looks like a two-faced whiner. He is gonna rot on that bench in Carolina, and ill be glad to see him leaving the league as hardly even a blip on the NFL radar.



Alright, just to clarify, you look at almost any player not named Randy Moss or Terrell Owens, and you will find a player who loves his current team, no matter how bad the team is. Yes, there are some players who show their discontent, but for the most part, players toe the company line. You'll also see when a player goes to a new team, that new team is the best team in the league, no matter how bad that team really is. It's how the NFL works.

[ObsiWan]

"...like what I had the last couple of years where you almost don't even want to come to work."
Carr a "a class act", huh? How come Dave wasn't "classy" enough to tell Bob McNair to keep his $8 million and turn down the extension last year because "it wasn't fun..." Why didn't he man up and do the "classy" thing and ask to be shopped around so he could be traded?? ...or just turn down the extension and become a retricted free agent?? Either one of those moves would have helped him and helped the Texans. But noooo, he just smiled in McNair's face and took the man's money knowing his heart was no longer in it.
This says it all for me.

[GNTLEWOLF]

I'm not sure what anyone would have expected Carr to say. He is with a new team. Anybody believe it would be a class act to say,"Geeze, these guys are bums. I can't remember the last time I was around such lack of talent hacks. I can see I'm going to hate playing here. I can't stand coming to work. I wish I was back with my beloved Texans( who still have that glorious O-line). I really miss all the look-out blocks."
And I want to know which of you guys would turn down $8 million if it was offered to you by your boss...even if you hate your job. That has nothing to do with class, it's just good sense...you take the money...in any profession.

[aj]

Believe me Dave, it wasn't a whole lot of fun watching you 'working' either.

[TEXANRED]

Carr can kiss it...........
He is ok with being a back up, needs a break, football has not been fun for a while.
Thats a heart of a champion right there.
Hey Dave, why don't you go sack yourself!

[Mr Tex]

Jesus christ people, it's not like the guy isn't telling the truth, we've all acknowledged as much here at 1 point or another. Stop being so sensitive, former players do this all the time; stop fishing for bulletin board material.

[BigBrew]

Jesus christ people, it's not like the guy isn't telling the truth, we've all acknowledged as much here at 1 point or another. Stop being so sensitive, former players do this all the time; stop fishing for bulletin board material. Don't take the Lord's name in vain please,preferably never but at least not on the message board for everyone to read it.

As far as your point I agree. Most of you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. Carr did not say anything that wasn't true and it does not seem to have been said in a spiteful way, simply informative. The sooner we stop talking about Carr the better.

[txsportsfan]

I don't know what David is talking about, he's always been surrounded by talent.
Sincerely,
Charlie Casserly

[J-Storm]

I hope you got the # of that bus DC that DRob threw you under 'cos I have the feeling you will get to see it again when Peppers, Smith or Fox throw you under it on the return trip...
Also hope you keep enjoying that 'holiday' that you obv started to take after the '02 season. Happy to be a back up, pffft, thanks for showing me how lil' enthusiasm & dedication you had for the Texans organization from the top (the FO) to the bottom (us fans)...
I was a (blind) David Carr fan 101% through thick & thin, pity that the support I have for you now has dropped by 102%...

[BACCARAT BRUSHES]

It's best that I just pass this on and don't say anything.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4780266.html


Carr has never been real sharp...we play them game 2. I'm sure this will be all over the locker room.


it would be more meaningfull if he was the starter for the panthers but i doubt he can beat jake out of a job. i think its safe to assume David will be a career back up QB.

Career backup? Oh, you mean like the two QBs we now have.

[El Tejano]

Tell Carr the feeling is mutual!!!!
Signed,
Everyone on the team who talks so great about Matt Schaub

[doug ftw]

He can go sack himself for all I care. Sadly, I was the one who has been calling for his head since end of Year 2....it just took some people longer (much much longer) to realize what a horrible quarterback he was and what a terrible professional he is. he had a horrible work ethic and lack of dedication to his craft but some of you were too stubborn to believe this. i always heard bs like 'you arent in the locker room', well now we hear it straight out of the loser's mouth. dude is just another 'convenient christian' and most of this town was stupid enough and self deluded enough to believe his tired and lame act.
jesus christ, the dude is the biggest loser in the history of NFL starting quarterbacks (not debatable...its a statistical fact of QBs with 3 or more years starting experience)...but whatever, he fooled some of you but he never fooled me. he sucks and thankfully some of the morons that supported this guy have gone away for good. they wont be missed.

[Footballz]

It's best that I just pass this on and don't say anything.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4780266.html


Carr has never been real sharp...we play them game 2. I'm sure this will be all over the locker room.


it would be more meaningfull if he was the starter for the panthers but i doubt he can beat jake out of a job. i think its safe to assume David will be a career back up QB.

Career backup? Oh, you mean like the two QBs we now have.



Yeah, just like that.

[Footballz]

Jesus christ people, it's not like the guy isn't telling the truth, we've all acknowledged as much here at 1 point or another. Stop being so sensitive, former players do this all the time; stop fishing for bulletin board material. Don't take the Lord's name in vain please,preferably never but at least not on the message board for everyone to read it.
Carr did not say anything that wasn't true and it does not seem to have been said in a spiteful way, simply informative.

The truth hurts.

[Porky]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career.

[doug ftw]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career.porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

[Texans_Chick]

It's best that I just pass this on and don't say anything.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4780266.html


Carr has never been real sharp...we play them game 2. I'm sure this will be all over the locker room.

No, it is a brilliant strategy (link):
David Carr: Happy as a Backup or Bulletin Board Killer? (http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05/07/david-carr-happy-as-a-backup-or-bulletin-board-killer/)
Some people might think calling your former team untalented is kind of stupid given that the Panthers play the Texans during week 2. Nope, it's brilliant! What better way to knock Jake Delhomme out of the starting quarterback job than to get the Texans amped up to destroy him early in the season? See, David Carr isn't just happy to spending the prime age of his career on the bench counting all the money he got from the Texans over the years. Rather, he is engaged in a sneaky plot to get Delhomme killed.

[BACCARAT BRUSHES]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

Interesting how David still commands so much attention. Forget about improvement, new signings, draft picks, or playoff possibilities. Nothing would make you "happier as a Texans fan" than winning a non-division, non-conference game in week 2 against David's new team. Now that's a statement.

[Vinny]

Interesting how David still commands so much attention. Forget about improvement, new signings, draft picks, or playoff possibilities. Nothing would make you "happier as a Texans fan" than winning a non-division, non-conference game in week 2 against David's new team. Now that's a statement.
Eagle fans still talk about Mike Mamula....plus, it's May. We are going to talk about the players that helped and hurt the team over the years, especially in dead months. Carr was the face of this franchise for our first half decade of existence so he is going to be a big subject, like it or not...for a while I reckon.

[Houston_Fanatic]

David just proves once and for all what I have believed for several years now. That he is an immature spoiled brat who has no business in the NFL. But, the sports media like to annoint a player every once in a while and he (like R. Bush) gets a bye when it comes to real criticism.

It should be crystal clear to everyone now why Kubiak gave up on him after one season.

Comments like "it's not fun anymore", "I didn't want to come to work" and last year he made a statement that he "dreaded" going to Indianapolis to play the Colts speaks volumnes about his level of commitment and desire to win (zero).

Good riddance, Carr!

[Tulip]

OK, I'm breaking my silence.

Or maybe not. I just can't seem say anything that isn't snarky.

[doug ftw]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

Interesting how David still commands so much attention. Forget about improvement, new signings, draft picks, or playoff possibilities. Nothing would make you "happier as a Texans fan" than winning a non-division, non-conference game in week 2 against David's new team. Now that's a statement.
hell yeah its a statement and it's from the heart. to see his @ss get kicked play after play would finally be some kind of payback for having to watch his horrific QB play for 5 years and hearing all his homers errr supporters make excuses for over 5 years. look at the guy, he acts like it was everyone else's fault to this day. i want the guy to get his @ss kicked for not being accountable and for being a little girl in pads. dude is just a total tampon.

[Earth and All Stars]

I'm a huge fan, but let's be honest. Over the last five years the Panthers have had more talent including the QB. As Kubiak cleans up the mess left by Capers and crew our talent and attitude will improve, but we have not been a talented team.

[Mr Tex]

I'm a huge fan, but let's be honest. Over the last five years the Panthers have had more talent including the QB. As Kubiak cleans up the mess left by Capers and crew our talent and attitude will improve, but we have not been a talented team.

And that my friends is what we call the T-R-U-T-H . yeah, he's a cake but who cares he's not on our team anymore, get over it people.

[srstex]

Thank you.
The guy is gone, but still on this baord, and why? If you want to complain about something, think about this; Kubiak says that the Playoffs are the goal for this year, and always should be, but last year he didn't say that. Kubiak has all his eggs in Schaub's basket, Green's hands and should we not go 9 & 7, this year will be worse then last, due to the fact that this years QB has been in Kubiak's style of offense for 7 years. Let's be truthful, Carr got the same amount of love from this board as he got protection, none, ya'll should all be jumping for joy and writing all the positive things to come because Schaub will lead us the promissed land. Let's face it this board has said Carr was the problem, he's gone so if we don't win, who's to blame next?

[Mr Tex]

Thank you.
The guy is gone, but still on this baord, and why? If you want to complain about something, think about this; Kubiak says that the Playoffs are the goal for this year, and always should be, but last year he didn't say that. Kubiak has all his eggs in Schaub's basket, Green's hands and should we not go 9 & 7, this year will be worse then last, due to the fact that this years QB has been in Kubiak's style of offense for 7 years. Let's be truthful, Carr got the same amount of love from this board as he got protection, none, ya'll should all be jumping for joy and writing all the positive things to come because Schaub will lead us the promissed land. Let's face it this board has said Carr was the problem, he's gone so if we don't win, who's to blame next?

Probably McNair..... I can hear it now... "why did he spend 300 + million dollars to bring this garbage team to houston? we need a new owner who knows what he's doing!"

[Texans Horror]

What is everyone's infatuation with David Carr on this board? Geez. Move on.
David has!


I'm with you, man. Why are people so infatuated with one player? What really bugs me though is when somebody takes the name/nickname of a player like Carr or Adrianne Peterson...

[caddy]

Gee, I'm really surprised that he thinks the Panthers are a better team. How could that be? Oh, that's right... they are. Also it's good to hear all the B.S. that Carr haters spread about him again, so what if most of it is made-up. It's the hate they live for. Name calling keeps-em young. As if they would stand toe-to-toe with him... when it's so much safer to yell insults from behind a key board. Keep hating kids.. . you're too funny

[Footballz]

I'm a huge fan, but let's be honest.


That's the key...honesty....like the Texans have had more talent than the Panthers.

[Grid]

Toeing the company line, and bashing your previous team, are two COMPLETELY different things.

He could have just as easily said "I really love it here, there is an incredible amount of talent on this team. Steve Smith is amazing. Im just happy to be here and I really look forward to going out there every day and playing football, and its important that a player can look forward to going to work every day"

Says all the same things he said.. except he doesnt say how the talent on the Texans sucked and he hated playing for us for the last two years.

Hes a two faced prat..bottom line. If he had issues when he was here..if he felt that we lacked key talent on offense and that he was not enjoying his job.. then he should act like he has a pair and say something about it, rather than putting on a front and saying how great it is to play here, and how there is so much talent on this team.

Im more angry at him for going somewhere else and saying this stuff, rather than saying it while he was here as a Texan. You can call it being "politically correct" and "toeing the company line".. but its pretty dang obvious that lieing through your teeth and saying everything is going great has HURT us more than helped us. We went through 4 years of "things are going wonderfully" under the Capers regime.

Also... just because its TRUE that we have been short on talent .. that doesnt make it alright for him to use us as a whipping boy for his new team. Ya know what you call people who are kind to your face and then point out all your shortcomings when you arent around? Yah.. you call them loud mouthed ***holes.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

LOL. Dunta would bounce off. As for Mario, well, Carr would just get up, dust himself off, and run the next play. It's not like this would be anything new. Remember, he played behind the Texans offensive line for 5 years.

[caddy]

The last couple of years... 2005 we were 2 and 14. Last year new head coach who tied his hands to a new offence. The old round peg in a square hole. Now, you want him to say they weren't that bad. I still haven't gotten over them.

[Footballz]

Hes a two faced prat..bottom line. If he had issues when he was here..if he felt that we lacked key talent on offense and that he was not enjoying his job.. then he should act like he has a pair and say something about it, rather than putting on a front and saying how great it is to play here, and how there is so much talent on this team.

Since you weren't in the locker room or on the practice field, you are clueless as to what was said behind closed doors.
It's better when a player doesn't air out his grievances with his current team, in the press. Perhaps a player who behaves like TO would be more to your liking.

[Grid]

Oh go be a Panthers fan then. You are fine with him airing it to the public AFTER he leaves a team huh? How about he show a little class and not speak about it to the public at all if he had issues.

Gimme a break.. seriously..think before you speak. I cant believe that you would honestly be so foolish as to believe that it is fine for him to degrade a team so long as he no longer plays with them.

Its classless. Period. If you cant see that then you need to some etiquette lessons

Since you seem to be so fond of TO comparisons. TO is the king of moving to another team and then airing all that teams dirty laundry to the press as soon as he gets his locker picked at his new facility. Carr is being very "TO".

[Houston_Fanatic]

I never have understood posters who get on a thread and tell everybody to quit talking about the thread subject - how idiotic is that? This is a M-E-S-S-A-G-E B-O-A-R-D where people gather to discuss what interests them.

If the subject doesn't interest you, then stay off the thread!!!! It's not like there aren't plenty of others to hang out on.

Now back to the subject at hand....... Carr wasn't the only reason we sucked so bad, but we **** sure weren't going to get any better with him as our QB. I personally feel he held us back. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. It's not like he is the first QB bust ever to be drafted.

[Sportsjunkie]

This guys hero is his buddy from Fresno State, a career backup himself, Trent Dilfer. He gave him the script on how to last for 10-15 years in the NFL.
(1) Look like a nice guy
(2) Don't practice too hard and take the starter's job
(3) Count the MONEY!

[Footballz]

Oh go be a Panthers fan then. You are fine with him airing it to the public AFTER he leaves a team huh? How about he show a little class and not speak about it to the public at all if he had issues.

Gimme a break.. seriously..think before you speak. I cant believe that you would honestly be so foolish as to believe that it is fine for him to degrade a team so long as he no longer plays with them.

Its classless. Period. If you cant see that then you need to some etiquette lessons

Since you seem to be so fond of TO comparisons. TO is the king of moving to another team and then airing all that teams dirty laundry to the press as soon as he gets his locker picked at his new facility. Carr is being very "TO".


Don't concern yourself with which teams I follow. That's really none of your business.
You need to "think" period. The guy said he's never been surrounded by such talent. It's the truth. David was drafted by an expansion team. Duh. Does Texas have mandatory education laws?
David's likely elated. You would be too if you spent years getting knocked into the turf.
You also need to take a step into reality. Medication might help.
TO airs everything out before he changes locker rooms.

[Houston_Fanatic]

Oh go be a Panthers fan then. You are fine with him airing it to the public AFTER he leaves a team huh? How about he show a little class and not speak about it to the public at all if he had issues.

Gimme a break.. seriously..think before you speak. I cant believe that you would honestly be so foolish as to believe that it is fine for him to degrade a team so long as he no longer plays with them.

Its classless. Period. If you cant see that then you need to some etiquette lessons

Since you seem to be so fond of TO comparisons. TO is the king of moving to another team and then airing all that teams dirty laundry to the press as soon as he gets his locker picked at his new facility. Carr is being very "TO".


Don't concern yourself with which teams I follow. That's really none of your business.
You need to "think" period. The guy said he's never been surrounded by such talent. It's the truth. David was drafted by an expansion team. Duh. Does Texas have mandatory education laws?
David's likely elated. You would be too if you spent years getting knocked into the turf.
You also need to take a step into reality. Medication might help.
TO airs everything out before he changes locker rooms.


Ah....... now I understand why you are such a Carr fan. You could have made your point without the childish insults, but it shows your maturity to be on the same level as Carr. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Footballz]

Oh go be a Panthers fan then. You are fine with him airing it to the public AFTER he leaves a team huh? How about he show a little class and not speak about it to the public at all if he had issues.

Gimme a break.. seriously..think before you speak. I cant believe that you would honestly be so foolish as to believe that it is fine for him to degrade a team so long as he no longer plays with them.

Its classless. Period. If you cant see that then you need to some etiquette lessons

Since you seem to be so fond of TO comparisons. TO is the king of moving to another team and then airing all that teams dirty laundry to the press as soon as he gets his locker picked at his new facility. Carr is being very "TO".


Don't concern yourself with which teams I follow. That's really none of your business.
You need to "think" period. The guy said he's never been surrounded by such talent. It's the truth. David was drafted by an expansion team. Duh. Does Texas have mandatory education laws?
David's likely elated. You would be too if you spent years getting knocked into the turf.
You also need to take a step into reality. Medication might help.
TO airs everything out before he changes locker rooms.


Ah....... now I understand why you are such a Carr fan. You could have made your point without the childish insults, but it shows your maturity to be on the same level as Carr. Thanks for clearing that up.


Apparently you understand nothing. I'm not surprised. You are right on par with Grid. Dish it out, can't take it when it's thrown back.
"Grid:
Oh go be a Panthers fan then. Gimme a break.. seriously..think before you speak. I cant believe that you would honestly be so foolish... If you cant see that then you need to some etiquette lessons."


Lol..lol..lol...lol.. [:#]

[Grid]

Oh go be a Panthers fan then. You are fine with him airing it to the public AFTER he leaves a team huh? How about he show a little class and not speak about it to the public at all if he had issues.

Gimme a break.. seriously..think before you speak. I cant believe that you would honestly be so foolish as to believe that it is fine for him to degrade a team so long as he no longer plays with them.

Its classless. Period. If you cant see that then you need to some etiquette lessons

Since you seem to be so fond of TO comparisons. TO is the king of moving to another team and then airing all that teams dirty laundry to the press as soon as he gets his locker picked at his new facility. Carr is being very "TO".


Don't concern yourself with which teams I follow. That's really none of your business.
You need to "think" period. The guy said he's never been surrounded by such talent. It's the truth. David was drafted by an expansion team. Duh. Does Texas have mandatory education laws?
David's likely elated. You would be too if you spent years getting knocked into the turf.
You also need to take a step into reality. Medication might help.
TO airs everything out before he changes locker rooms.



Im not going to get into a flame war with you.. it will just get deleted. But you are being foolish.

You are basicly defending the idea that its alright for a player to insult thier previous teams to the media. I dont see how you plan on proving that that isnt a classless thing to do.. but then again, judging by your posts....


Anyway... on to your points...

Don't concern yourself with which teams I follow. That's really none of your business.

In other words..you arent a Texan fan, you are just a troll.

You need to "think" period. The guy said he's never been surrounded bysuch talent. It's the truth. David was drafted by an expansion team. Duh. Does Texas have mandatory education laws?

No, he said "As far as the talent on this team, it's something I haven't been around."

With a smidge of reading comprehension, you may notice a subtle difference between this quote, and the one you said.

As far as education goes, one of the first things you learn in any writing or debate class, is not to misquote. You may want to freshen up on that.

David's likely elated. You would be too if you spent years getting knocked into the turf.

Im sure he is. He was misused by our past coaching staff. However, being happy to be somewhere else is not a free ticket to behave like a whiny little jack***. His comments were classless and immature.

You also need to take a step into reality. Medication might help.

Very constructive there kid. Way to take the high ground.

TO airs everything out before he changes locker rooms.

You may also want to actually acquire at least a limited understand of the topics you are commenting on. This comment has no basis in reality.

Anyway. Go away troll.

[HydrOshocK]

LOL. this is great stuff. Tulip should get an Instigator of the Year award for starting this thread. All of the Carr homers have bust out of the closet in force!
Hell, why stop there? Here's some more fuel to add to the fire.....
David Carr:
"I've been on an expansion team and it's not fun. I've been on teams that aren't winning and it wasn't exciting. Football is a hard enough game when you go out there and you're battling everything and you go out and lose it makes it hard. I wanted to be on a team that was fun and exciting and whether I had a chance to play right away, it didn't matter to me."
He adds:
"Honestly in the last five years we haven't had much spark. If we were stuck in the forest it would be hard to light a fire with what we had going on."
Of course, this is not the tune he was singing last year when Gary Kubiak signed on and was trying to make Carr mentally tougher:
"It's probably the most fun I have had as far as being comfortable in my position when I go out on the field. If you're comfortable, you're confident. My confidence is at an all-time high with this offense and the scheme. Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun."

[andrew6]

Now when he said he'd never been talent like this did he mean Delhomme at QB cause that would make sense.

[petedy]

. Since I 've read what David said in an interview I knew most you people would say more things about him and true to form you have.Have any of you looked back at the things you have said of Carr for the past few months?And you criticize him for saying he's never been around a more talented group of players and then act as if he is throwing the Texans under the bus? I have read more foul mouthed comments on this board about him than anything he's ever said.So what he's enjoying his new team and the talent that's on it.Texans haven't had the talent yet on their team but there has been improvement this year.So why don't you all sing the praises of Matt Schaub and enjoy the present team and stop thinking of the past? Or is it you don't have the confidence in Schaub and the rest of the team? It takes a long time to build a winner and you guys will be going through more players until the right combination comes a long.Look at the Houston Rockets and the success they have had over the years and that took a long time to come. So don't look in the past but what's ahead.

[0ss0]

Ok...I too know that guys in the NFL iether are foul mouthed morons or tight lipped. David is not the foul mouth type. This also means his comments while mild are censored. I used to be a supporter of his and was until I read his comments about our lack of talent and not wanting to work.
Last year we had a very solid o-line compared to the past. I watched every snap live and then later in the day repeatedly through my VCR. I don't care to much about other teams and needed something to do.
David you should be ashamed for these comments. My texan's friends will be pleased to know I won't be defending you any more.
Sad and even sadder....good riddance.

[Mr Tex]

. Since I 've read what David said in an interview I knew most you people would say more things about him and true to form you have.Have any of you looked back at the things you have said of Carr for the past few months?And you criticize him for saying he's never been around a more talented group of players and then act as if he is throwing the Texans under the bus? I have read more foul mouthed comments on this board about him than anything he's ever said.So what he's enjoying his new team and the talent that's on it.Texans haven't had the talent yet on their team but there has been improvement this year.So why don't you all sing the praises of Matt Schaub and enjoy the present team and stop thinking of the past? Or is it you don't have the confidence in Schaub and the rest of the team? It takes a long time to build a winner and you guys will be going through more players until the right combination comes a long.Look at the Houston Rockets and the success they have had over the years and that took a long time to come. So don't look in the past but what's ahead.

Once again, you are on point bro......... When the guy was here i can't even remember how many "carr sucks' threads, avatars & signatures i saw & i've only been here since 2006. Then you want to get mad at the guy for stating the obvious? Be mad b/c he stole 8 million his last year here, be mad b/c of the 2006 1st Tennessee game, but don't be mad b/c the guy said something we've long known about this team since it's inception.

[Footballz]

Oh go be a Panthers fan then. You are fine with him airing it to the public AFTER he leaves a team huh? How about he show a little class and not speak about it to the public at all if he had issues.

Gimme a break.. seriously..think before you speak. I cant believe that you would honestly be so foolish as to believe that it is fine for him to degrade a team so long as he no longer plays with them.

Its classless. Period. If you cant see that then you need to some etiquette lessons

Since you seem to be so fond of TO comparisons. TO is the king of moving to another team and then airing all that teams dirty laundry to the press as soon as he gets his locker picked at his new facility. Carr is being very "TO".


Don't concern yourself with which teams I follow. That's really none of your business.
You need to "think" period. The guy said he's never been surrounded by such talent. It's the truth. David was drafted by an expansion team. Duh. Does Texas have mandatory education laws?
David's likely elated. You would be too if you spent years getting knocked into the turf.
You also need to take a step into reality. Medication might help.
TO airs everything out before he changes locker rooms.



Im not going to get into a flame war with you.. it will just get deleted. But you are being foolish.

You are basicly defending the idea that its alright for a player to insult thier previous teams to the media. I dont see how you plan on proving that that isnt a classless thing to do.. but then again, judging by your posts....


Anyway... on to your points...

Don't concern yourself with which teams I follow. That's really none of your business.

In other words..you arent a Texan fan, you are just a troll.

You need to "think" period. The guy said he's never been surrounded by such talent. It's the truth. David was drafted by an expansion team. Duh. Does Texas have mandatory education laws?

No, he said "As far as the talent on this team, it's something I haven't been around."

With a smidge of reading comprehension, you may notice a subtle difference between this quote, and the one you said.

As far as education goes, one of the first things you learn in any writing or debate class, is not to misquote. You may want to freshen up on that.

David's likely elated. You would be too if you spent years getting knocked into the turf.

Im sure he is. He was misused by our past coaching staff. However, being happy to be somewhere else is not a free ticket to behave like a whiny little jack***. His comments were classless and immature.

You also need to take a step into reality. Medication might help.

Very constructive there kid. Way to take the high ground.

TO airs everything out before he changes locker rooms.

You may also want to actually acquire at least a limited understand of the topics you are commenting on. This comment has no basis in reality.

Anyway. Go away troll.


I think it is very wise of you not to get into a flaming war. Seriously. [:D]

[Footballz]

. Since I 've read what David said in an interview I knew most you people would say more things about him and true to form you have.Have any of you looked back at the things you have said of Carr for the past few months?And you criticize him for saying he's never been around a more talented group of players and then act as if he is throwing the Texans under the bus? I have read more foul mouthed comments on this board about him than anything he's ever said.So what he's enjoying his new team and the talent that's on it.Texans haven't had the talent yet on their team but there has been improvement this year.So why don't you all sing the praises of Matt Schaub and enjoy the present team and stop thinking of the past? Or is it you don't have the confidence in Schaub and the rest of the team? It takes a long time to build a winner and you guys will be going through more players until the right combination comes a long.Look at the Houston Rockets and the success they have had over the years and that took a long time to come. So don't look in the past but what's ahead.

Once again, you are on point bro......... When the guy was here i can't even remember how many "carr sucks' threads, avatars & signatures i saw & i've only been here since 2006. Then you want to get mad at the guy for stating the obvious? Be mad b/c he stole 8 million his last year here, be mad b/c of the 2006 1st Tennessee game, but don't be mad b/c the guy said something we've long known about this team since it's inception.


Exactly. Be mad about his play, production, or anything that has to do with his on the field performance.

Don't be mad about the truth.

[Footballz]

. Since I 've read what David said in an interview I knew most you people would say more things about him and true to form you have.Have any of you looked back at the things you have said of Carr for the past few months?And you criticize him for saying he's never been around a more talented group of players and then act as if he is throwing the Texans under the bus? I have read more foul mouthed comments on this board about him than anything he's ever said.So what he's enjoying his new team and the talent that's on it.Texans haven't had the talent yet on their team but there has been improvement this year.So why don't you all sing the praises of Matt Schaub and enjoy the present team and stop thinking of the past? Or is it you don't have the confidence in Schaub and the rest of the team? It takes a long time to build a winner and you guys will be going through more players until the right combination comes a long.Look at the Houston Rockets and the success they have had over the years and that took a long time to come. So don't look in the past but what's ahead.
True. It takes a while to build a winner.
Have you read some of the comments on the main board?

[Nordic Vadar 1]

. Since I 've read what David said in an interview I knew most you people would say more things about him and true to form you have.Have any of you looked back at the things you have said of Carr for the past few months?And you criticize him for saying he's never been around a more talented group of players and then act as if he is throwing the Texans under the bus? I have read more foul mouthed comments on this board about him than anything he's ever said.So what he's enjoying his new team and the talent that's on it.Texans haven't had the talent yet on their team but there has been improvement this year.So why don't you all sing the praises of Matt Schaub and enjoy the present team and stop thinking of the past? Or is it you don't have the confidence in Schaub and the rest of the team? It takes a long time to build a winner and you guys will be going through more players until the right combination comes a long.Look at the Houston Rockets and the success they have had over the years and that took a long time to come. So don't look in the past but what's ahead.
What praises? Why should anyone have any confidence in Matt yet? He is probably a great guy but he has a lot to prove.
And, I might add, the expectations are exceptionally high and pretty unbelievable.

[Bruin]

Personally, it seems like we need to start passing out the man tampons in here. I read the Carr article in the OP link and well, I'm frankly amazed that anyone considers it an insult to the Texans, Houston, the Great State of Texas, or America our Heartland. What's the big deal? Carr was drafted by an expansion team. Does anyone here actually think the Texans are/were as talented as Carolina? Obviously not. That said, I don't understand the overly-sensitive types who consider everything to be a personal insult.

Get over it guys, the man was making a comment about his new situation. If any of you think he left a superior situation behind, then you shouldn't be logged in to a football board. Period. Quit being so sensitive about things. It's embarrassing.

[bah007]

Personally, it seems like we need to start passing out the man tampons in here. I read the Carr article in the OP link and well, I'm frankly amazed that anyone considers it an insult to the Texans, Houston, the Great State of Texas, or America our Heartland. What's the big deal? Carr was drafted by an expansion team. Does anyone here actually think the Texans are/were as talented as Carolina? Obviously not. That said, I don't understand the overly-sensitive types who consider everything to be a personal insult.

Get over it guys, the man was making a comment about his new situation. If any of you think he left a superior situation behind, then you shouldn't be logged in to a football board. Period. Quit being so sensitive about things. It's embarrassing.

I gotta say I agree here.
I love the Texans but I'm not such a blind fan that I think that we have the same level of talent as the Panthers.
What Carr said was true. The Panthers are a better team than us & they are also the most talented team he has ever been on.

[SuperstarII]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

LOL. Dunta would bounce off. As for Mario, well, Carr would just get up, dust himself off, and run the next play. It's not like this would be anything new. Remember, he played behind the Texans offensive line for 5 years.



yeah thank god we have Okoye and DeMeco. LOL Carolina offense is going to have to worry about who to double team next season to protect Davey boy. I have always hated DC after they went 2-14. I went to the orignal board to see what the reaction was and can't believe people loved him even when they went 2-14. then I made my rant and got negative reps and bad postings from people about my discomfort about DC. That made me hate DC even more. I got banned for some odd reason after all that as well....... I am just glad now he is freakin gone and off with a new era in Schaub. He was praised highly in all of the NFL as a good QB. I just can't wait for the season too start!

[SuperstarII]

Personally, it seems like we need to start passing out the man tampons in here. I read the Carr article in the OP link and well, I'm frankly amazed that anyone considers it an insult to the Texans, Houston, the Great State of Texas, or America our Heartland. What's the big deal? Carr was drafted by an expansion team. Does anyone here actually think the Texans are/were as talented as Carolina? Obviously not. That said, I don't understand the overly-sensitive types who consider everything to be a personal insult.

Get over it guys, the man was making a comment about his new situation. If any of you think he left a superior situation behind, then you shouldn't be logged in to a football board. Period. Quit being so sensitive about things. It's embarrassing.

I gotta say I agree here.
I love the Texans but I'm not such a blind fan that I think that we have the same level of talent as the Panthers.
What Carr said was true. The Panthers are a better team than us & they are also the most talented team he has ever been on.


Panthers a better team? When was the last time they made the playoffs??? Also we did have talent last year. Who made the probowl? Who was rookie of the year? Who had 153 rushing yards total against the Colts? We have talent son and QB was the one who wasn't talented. I mean he was picked by Casserly..........Nuff Said!

[bah007]

Personally, it seems like we need to start passing out the man tampons in here. I read the Carr article in the OP link and well, I'm frankly amazed that anyone considers it an insult to the Texans, Houston, the Great State of Texas, or America our Heartland. What's the big deal? Carr was drafted by an expansion team. Does anyone here actually think the Texans are/were as talented as Carolina? Obviously not. That said, I don't understand the overly-sensitive types who consider everything to be a personal insult.

Get over it guys, the man was making a comment about his new situation. If any of you think he left a superior situation behind, then you shouldn't be logged in to a football board. Period. Quit being so sensitive about things. It's embarrassing.

I gotta say I agree here.
I love the Texans but I'm not such a blind fan that I think that we have the same level of talent as the Panthers.
What Carr said was true. The Panthers are a better team than us & they are also the most talented team he has ever been on.


Panthers a better team? When was the last time they made the playoffs??? Also we did have talent last year. Who made the probowl? Who was rookie of the year? Who had 153 rushing yards total against the Colts? We have talent son and QB was the won't who wasn't talented. I mean he was picked by Casserly..........Nuff Said!



Who said the Texans didn't have talent? Not me. I just said that Carolina had more.
Since we came into the league in 2002 our record is 24-56.
In that same time period, the Panthers are 44-36. They are also 5-2 in the playoffs in that span & lost in the Super Bowl in 2003.
By the way... the last time the Panthers made the playoffs was in the 2005 season when they lost in the NFC Conference Championship Game to the Seahawks (who ended up losing the Super Bowl).
So in short, the Panthers have been to the Conference Championship twice in just the past 4 years.

[Footballz]

Get over it guys, the man was making a comment about his new situation. If any of you think he left a superior situation behind, then you shouldn't be logged in to a football board. Period. Quit being so sensitive about things. It's embarrassing.


Sure is. [B]

[Footballz]

Personally, it seems like we need to start passing out the man tampons in here. I read the Carr article in the OP link and well, I'm frankly amazed that anyone considers it an insult to the Texans, Houston, the Great State of Texas, or America our Heartland. What's the big deal? Carr was drafted by an expansion team. Does anyone here actually think the Texans are/were as talented as Carolina? Obviously not. That said, I don't understand the overly-sensitive types who consider everything to be a personal insult.

Get over it guys, the man was making a comment about his new situation. If any of you think he left a superior situation behind, then you shouldn't be logged in to a football board. Period. Quit being so sensitive about things. It's embarrassing.

I gotta say I agree here.
I love the Texans but I'm not such a blind fan that I think that we have the same level of talent as the Panthers.
What Carr said was true. The Panthers are a better team than us & they are also the most talented team he has ever been on.


Panthers a better team? When was the last time they made the playoffs??? Also we did have talent last year. Who made the probowl? Who was rookie of the year? Who had 153 rushing yards total against the Colts? We have talent son and QB was the won't who wasn't talented. I mean he was picked by Casserly..........Nuff Said!



Who said the Texans didn't have talent? Not me. I just said that Carolina had more.
Since we came into the league in 2002 our record is 24-56.
In that same time period, the Panthers are 44-36. They are also 5-2 in the playoffs in that span & lost in the Super Bowl in 2003.
By the way... the last time the Panthers made the playoffs was in the 2005 season when they lost in the NFC Conference Championship Game to the Seahawks (who ended up losing the Super Bowl).
So in short, the Panthers have been to the Conference Championship twice in just the past 4 years.


Those who think the Texans have had more talent than the Panthers and that David Carr =TO are residing in a land far, far away. A land devoid of football and common sense.

[Footballz]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

LOL. Dunta would bounce off. As for Mario, well, Carr would just get up, dust himself off, and run the next play. It's not like this would be anything new. Remember, he played behind the Texans offensive line for 5 years.



yeah thank god we have Okoye and DeMeco. LOL Carolina offense is going to have to worry about who to double team next season to protect Davey boy.

Uhhh...David is the back up. [;)]

[ReliantTexan]

I'm a huge fan, but let's be honest.


That's the key...honesty....like the Texans have had more talent than the Panthers.
Oh you mean the panthers that won one more game than us last year that team oh yeah.

[ReliantTexan]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.
LOL. Dunta would bounce off.
.

Yeah he would bounce off that Big Red S on his chest, right?

[BATTL3_R3D]

The best part of threads like this is that Carr can do as he wants, he isn't on this team now.

But, funnier is that if we won, Carr wasn't slammed near as bad. If we lost, he was desimated by fans. Thats over now, and David only said what he feels. That the Panthers have MORE talent than the team he left, and thats true. By the 1st game it maynot be true, but when he left it was.

And EVERYONE this year was saying we need atleast 1 OL pick in the draft. Alot liked it at #10, but a DT was the right call when we got to pick. So, saying he was destroyed and everyone knew it from the way the OL played...is true.

I was never huge on Carr, but he played the best he could with what he had. And last year, the team was better, but he was getting use to a new system(what was that system #6 he has been in?). We will NEVER know now if he would of cost us games this year or not because he is gone.

Get over yourselves and let the guy do what he wants. Unless your a Panther fan, or his family why do you care...he is no longer here.

REPEAT: NO LONGER IS CARR A TEXAN, MOVE ON PLEASE

[ReliantTexan]

Thank you.
The guy is gone, but still on this baord, and why? If you want to complain about something, think about this; Kubiak says that the Playoffs are the goal for this year, and always should be, but last year he didn't say that. Kubiak has all his eggs in Schaub's basket, Green's hands and should we not go 9 & 7, this year will be worse then last, due to the fact that this years QB has been in Kubiak's style of offense for 7 years. Let's be truthful, Carr got the same amount of love from this board as he got protection, none, ya'll should all be jumping for joy and writing all the positive things to come because Schaub will lead us the promissed land. Let's face it this board has said Carr was the problem, he's gone so if we don't win, who's to blame next?
This is the NFL section and this particular subject is one of the more juicy ones its about the texans former QB making comments about his former team ,some of his comments are questionable.What should we post,a 2008 mock draft,that's always fun?

[ib4texans]

I'm not sure what anyone would have expected Carr to say. He is with a new team. Anybody believe it would be a class act to say,"Geeze, these guys are bums. I can't remember the last time I was around such lack of talent hacks. I can see I'm going to hate playing here. I can't stand coming to work. I wish I was back with my beloved Texans( who still have that glorious O-line). I really miss all the look-out blocks."
And I want to know which of you guys would turn down $8 million if it was offered to you by your boss...even if you hate your job. That has nothing to do with class, it's just good sense...you take the money...in any profession.

Yes he should have said and done all of those things. Everybody on this board knows how well the fans treated him at every game. It's great that you cry babies can talk the talk but can't walk the walk. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

[TexFan1]

"You've got to enjoy the game," Carr said. "If you're not having fun, it's going to be like what I had the last couple of years where you almost don't even want to come to work."

Could he have been referring to the fans at the games and in the general public who singled him out as if he were the only poor performer on the team, and maybe a few teamates who were looking for an easy and highly visible scapegoat for the team's lack of production?

[ib4texans]

I'm a huge fan, but let's be honest.


That's the key...honesty....like the Texans have had more talent than the Panthers.
Oh you mean the panthers that won one more game than us last year that team oh yeah.

Ummmmmmm, I am pretty sure the the Texans record was 6-10 while the Panthers was 8-8.

[al1237]

http://www.houstonprosports.com/houston_pro_sports_009.htm
not much class from carr

[HydrOshocK]

http://www.houstonprosports.com/houston_pro_sports_009.htm
not much class from carr


There's already a thread for this in the NFL discussion section where it belongs. And please don't post this under every unrelated thread in this section.....thx

[BATTL3_R3D]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

LOL. Dunta would bounce off. As for Mario, well, Carr would just get up, dust himself off, and run the next play. It's not like this would be anything new. Remember, he played behind the Texans offensive line for 5 years.



yeah thank god we have Okoye and DeMeco. LOL Carolina offense is going to have to worry about who to double team next season to protect Davey boy.

Uhhh...David is the back up. [;)]


You REALLY sure about that? All the papers in NC are saying he maybe the starter. My mother-in-law lives in NC, and has sent me clippings of even coaches saying it will be a very interesting camp given Carr's ability. Not to mention how off Jake was last year(or is he just not that good).

So, maybe he is the back up right now. But, if he can do decent in preseason and practice and Jake slips at all...he could very easily be starting aginst us game #2

[Footballz]

I'm just as glad to be rid of him as he is of the Texans. His attitude stinks. It's like he existed in a vacuum here, where he was a star, and everyone else stunk. I got news for ya Davey. You stunk worse than anyone else, and you were a big part of the reason why we had no talent - you were part of that no talent, but you're too stupid to realize it. Have fun holding a clipboard for the rest of your career. porky, your not surprised by what he said are you? I wouldn't think so. he has lived in a culture on unaccountability since his first snap as Texans up until his final snap. screw him. as for him holding a clipboard the rest of his career, I hope he is behind center Week 2. I would love to see his candy @ss get rolled by Mario and Co and hear the barrage of excuses fall like rain. the guy makes Brady Quinn look manly. he is a little girl.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him get his @ss whooped down after down. seeing him just get pulverized would make my season. Maybe Dunta could just spear him right in his chest then have Mario just piledrive him into the turf over and over. end that loser's career once and for all....then they can cut away to his family crying and his dad pouting like the gravy training loser that he is. nothing would make me happier as a Texans fan....he deserves nothing less.

LOL. Dunta would bounce off. As for Mario, well, Carr would just get up, dust himself off, and run the next play. It's not like this would be anything new. Remember, he played behind the Texans offensive line for 5 years.



yeah thank god we have Okoye and DeMeco. LOL Carolina offense is going to have to worry about who to double team next season to protect Davey boy.

Uhhh...David is the back up. [;)]


You REALLY sure about that? All the papers in NC are saying he maybe the starter. My mother-in-law lives in NC, and has sent me clippings of even coaches saying it will be a very interesting camp given Carr's ability. Not to mention how off Jake was last year(or is he just not that good).

So, maybe he is the back up right now. But, if he can do decent in preseason and practice and Jake slips at all...he could very easily be starting aginst us game #2


Cool.
Thanks for that info.

[Footballz]

I'm a huge fan, but let's be honest.


That's the key...honesty....like the Texans have had more talent than the Panthers.
Oh you mean the panthers that won one more game than us last year that team oh yeah.

Ummmmmmm, I am pretty sure the the Texans record was 6-10 while the Panthers was 8-8.
I'm glad David is happy now.

Me too. :)

[SuperstarII]

The best part of threads like this is that Carr can do as he wants, he isn't on this team now.

But, funnier is that if we won, Carr wasn't slammed near as bad. If we lost, he was desimated by fans. Thats over now, and David only said what he feels. That the Panthers have MORE talent than the team he left, and thats true. By the 1st game it maynot be true, but when he left it was.

And EVERYONE this year was saying we need atleast 1 OL pick in the draft. Alot liked it at #10, but a DT was the right call when we got to pick. So, saying he was destroyed and everyone knew it from the way the OL played...is true.

I was never huge on Carr, but he played the best he could with what he had. And last year, the team was better, but he was getting use to a new system(what was that system #6 he has been in?). We will NEVER know now if he would of cost us games this year or not because he is gone.

Get over yourselves and let the guy do what he wants. Unless your a Panther fan, or his family why do you care...he is no longer here.

REPEAT: NO LONGER IS CARR A TEXAN, MOVE ON PLEASE



WE ARE BOREEDDDDD.......

We have a few months and this is a fun topic. What do you want to talk about ? I know mario's next car will be a corvette!?

[aj]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are. He will probably do good in the preseason since he will see a lot of action - and people will be clamoring for him. But, give him three consecutive starts in the regular season and Carolina fans will see what we've been seeing for a while.
Plus, the Carolina offense will probably struggle for a while as the new offensive coordinator installs a new system - blocking schemes and all (sound familiar?). Right now the players are saying they love it - as all players do when there's a change.
I remember another Carr quote a few years ago that was along the lines of Joe Pendry being a breath of fresh air, so take preseason chatter for what it's worth. Not much.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.


Like Schaub is popular here.

[srstex]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.
Yeah, just look at Matt Schaub


Like Schaub is popular here.

[ROCKY]

I wondered what everyone would do w/ DC gone, I guess the answer is " we will disect everything he says and does regardless of what team he's on."

Of course he feels that way, how else would he feel? You mean it wasnt fun being the most hated guy in town, having your family disrespected in public, and being a constant source of ridicule???

I remember working with him on one of those "fabulous (sarcasm)" Momentum campaigns. and asking him how he kept from cracking. His answer was very pc, but you could just tell he was going through the motions, he was a beaten man. I am glad he got out of Houston, for his sake. Being the QB in Houston requires a really mentally tough guy. I hope schaubbie is that guy.

[Koolbrz]

http://www.houstonprosports.com/houston_pro_sports_009.htm
not much class from carr


He is just stating a fact!! He is not dissing the team. Heck, some fans on these message boards are bad mouthing the team. Besides, we all talked bad about Carr and it was okay. Now that the shoe is on the other foot we don't like it. Come on guy, if we can dish out the crap we should be able to take it when the crap is dished out back at us.

[El Tejano]

Dude should be able to make an observation. Let's see, one of the premiere defenses in the league over the last 3-5 years, Steve Smith, Jake Delhome, and the RB Foster. That is quite a bit of talent.
Can you tell me that from year 1-5 that David had better talent? I don't think you can. It is his observation and I'm sure he wasn't dissin on anybody.
He can't say anything about this years talent because he is not around it.

[ib4texans]

Dude should be able to make an observation. Let's see, one of the premiere defenses in the league over the last 3-5 years, Steve Smith, Jake Delhome, and the RB Foster. That is quite a bit of talent.
Can you tell me that from year 1-5 that David had better talent? I don't think you can. It is his observation and I'm sure he wasn't dissin on anybody.
He can't say anything about this years talent because he is not around it.



Nice post, it's too the point and makes perfect sense. People on this MB have very thin skins if this is to be considered smack talk or a diss. It's not like he came out and said " The Texans Sucked, I sure am glad some other schmoe is ready to take his pounding"

[Doug]

Although I don't feel that Carr is dissing the Texans by his comments, he sure is being a hell of alot more vocal with his comparisons between his previous team and new team. He is definitely in a better position in Carolina but he was also a part of the reason things weren't so great here. I've seen several of his comments that show me his leaving was the best thing for the Texans (Even though I already felt that way). He wasn't having fun, it was almost to where he didn't want to go to work, etc. How can you tell me that he was giving it his all and doing the best he could with comments like that? IMO, He has a ways to go as far as becoming a decent QB in this league and with the talent the Panthers have you couldn't ask for a better opportunity. However, if he doesn't fix the problems with himself (mechanics, throwing motion, reading defenses, etc.) he's not going to get anywhere, no matter what team he is with.

[doug ftw]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.


Like Schaub is popular here.
?!?!? Schaub isn't the backup....some of you Carr apologists will go to any length to make a lame argument

[rush2112mn]

He sure is more vocal about how he was not having fun anymore with the Texans. That he went and threw a football for hours after the trade was made. That it was nice that he now had some protection. blah blah...I knew he was going to say that. I hope Delhomme gets injured so our defense can pay him a visit when we play them up there. Like you said he needs to work on his mechanics...but some things he needs learn are leadership traits. I don't know if he is a leader. I don't know if he will ever be a leader. Oh well, just wait til the week of the game up there in Carolina....should be interesting hearing the comments then.

[caddy]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.

[Footballz]

I hope Delhomme gets injured.....

Pretty sick and twisted wishing anyone gets injured.

[Footballz]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are. He will probably do good in the preseason since he will see a lot of action - and people will be clamoring for him. But, give him three consecutive starts in the regular season and Carolina fans will see what we've been seeing for a while.
Plus, the Carolina offense will probably struggle for a while as the new offensive coordinator installs a new system - blocking schemes and all (sound familiar?). Right now the players are saying they love it - as all players do when there's a change.
I remember another Carr quote a few years ago that was along the lines of Joe Pendry being a breath of fresh air, so take preseason chatter for what it's worth. Not much.



Yeah, sort of like the chatter in the bullpen about the Texans taking their division......and the backup being popular.

[Footballz]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.


Like Schaub is popular here.
?!?!? Schaub isn't the backup....some of you Carr apologists will go to any length to make a lame argument

Lol...lol...lol... Shaub was not the starter in Atlanta. He hasn't started one game for the Texans.

[HOU-TEX]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.
LOL! You Carr stalkers are at least humerous at times. "Davids heart and skills"lol", David led us to a win"lol. Classic!!

[Nordic Vadar 1]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.


Like Schaub is popular here.
?!?!? Schaub isn't the backup....some of you Carr apologists will go to any length to make a lame argument
Schaub is a career backup who has been handed a starting job on a less competitive team in the NFL without having to compete for it. That is simply the case.

[bah007]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.


Like Schaub is popular here.
?!?!? Schaub isn't the backup....some of you Carr apologists will go to any length to make a lame argument
Well I am definitely not a Carr "apologist" & I can still recognize that Schaub has been a back-up his whole career & Carr has been a starter since the day he was drafted.

[Tulip]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.

Come on - David didn't lead anything in that Colts game. Kubiak had completely marginalized him by that time. David's job was to execute the quarterback-to-running-back exchange and to get the heck out of the way. And it worked - a classic example of addition by subtraction.

[tsip]

Folks, it will be so much more fun if Carr starts for the Panthers. It won't matter how much talent they put around David, as that won't improve his mechanics or improve his brain power.
The sooner he plays, the quieter it's going to get around the rest of the NFL.

[Footballz]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.
LOL! You Carr stalkers are at least humerous at times. "Davids heart and skills"lol", David led us to a win"lol. Classic!!



Lol.... "Carr stalkers?" Lol..lol.. we're not the ones starting all these threads.... someone tried to start this thread twice. [:D][:O]

[Footballz]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.


Like Schaub is popular here.
?!?!? Schaub isn't the backup....some of you Carr apologists will go to any length to make a lame argument
Well I am definitely not a Carr "apologist" & I can still recognize that Schaub has been a back-up his whole career & Carr has been a starter since the day he was drafted.


Wow! Someone else who can recognize reality. Congrats!

[Footballz]

Someone needs to tell dave that the Panthers were 27th in the league in scoring and 24th in total yards last year. The Texans were 28th and 28th.
Their fans were all over Jake last year (in a bad way). Dave will be popular as all backups are.


Like Schaub is popular here.
?!?!? Schaub isn't the backup....some of you Carr apologists will go to any length to make a lame argument
Schaub is a career backup who has been handed a starting job on a less competitive team in the NFL without having to compete for it. That is simply the case.



Very true. Where are those who complained about David being handed the job?

[Nordic Vadar 1]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.
LOL! You Carr stalkers are at least humerous at times. "Davids heart and skills"lol", David led us to a win"lol. Classic!!

What a shallow and transparent comment. When the team loses, it's Carr's fault, and when they win it's to everyone else's credit. Not quite.

[caddy]

Gee... good thing that I don't gamble for real big money as I see alot of fish that believe in addition by subtraction.

[HOU-TEX]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.
LOL! You Carr stalkers are at least humerous at times. "Davids heart and skills"lol", David led us to a win"lol. Classic!!

Lol.... "Carr stalkers?" Lol..lol.. we're not the ones starting all these threads.... someone tried to start this thread twice.

Well at least you recognized who you are.
Where's the dadgum ignore function on this board?????

[Footballz]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.
LOL! You Carr stalkers are at least humerous at times. "Davids heart and skills"lol", David led us to a win"lol. Classic!!

Lol.... "Carr stalkers?" Lol..lol.. we're not the ones starting all these threads.... someone tried to start this thread twice.

Well at least you recognized who you are.
Where's the dadgum ignore function on this board?????


Exactly. I recognized who he was calling a "Carr Stalker." He was wrong.

You can't figure out how to ignore someone without an "ignore function?" [:^)]

[mganz]

I don't know if this was posted, if it has been sorry. This is a link to an interview from the panthers fan site. Its pretty long, about 10 minutes. Overall pretty good interview. He did say a few things about Houston. You can be the judge of how it is meant.

http://www.panthersfanz.com/panthersfanz_mp3player.swf

[GP]

I hope you got the # of that bus DC that DRob threw you under 'cos I have the feeling you will get to see it again when Peppers, Smith or Fox throw you under it on the return trip...
Also hope you keep enjoying that 'holiday' that you obv started to take after the '02 season. Happy to be a back up, pffft, thanks for showing me how lil' enthusiasm & dedication you had for the Texans organization from the top (the FO) to the bottom (us fans)...
I was a (blind) David Carr fan 101% through thick & thin, pity that the support I have for you now has dropped by 102%...

Well said.
I also flew the Carr flag for almost the entire time. Basically, he's shallow and very "surface"....but his good looks and witty charm seem to get him by.
What he SAID and what he's saying are two different things. He's proven that he's a two-faced whiner, just as Grid said on the first page of this thread.
He just created MAJOR locker room material for the game against us. He doesn't want to stare down Mario-DeMeco-Amobi-TJ, etc., coming full bore at his grill (IF he gets playing time at all).

[GP]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.

Come on - David didn't lead anything in that Colts game. Kubiak had completely marginalized him by that time. David's job was to execute the quarterback-to-running-back exchange and to get the heck out of the way. And it worked - a classic example of addition by subtraction.

Bingo. We have a winner.
Ron Dayne and Vonta Leach had more to do with us beating the Colts than David did.
Caddy, you really do crack us up around here. Keep 'em comin'.

[BACCARAT BRUSHES]

I hope you got the # of that bus DC that DRob threw you under 'cos I have the feeling you will get to see it again when Peppers, Smith or Fox throw you under it on the return trip...
Also hope you keep enjoying that 'holiday' that you obv started to take after the '02 season. Happy to be a back up, pffft, thanks for showing me how lil' enthusiasm & dedication you had for the Texans organization from the top (the FO) to the bottom (us fans)...
I was a (blind) David Carr fan 101% through thick & thin, pity that the support I have for you now has dropped by 102%...

Well said.
I also flew the Carr flag for almost the entire time. Basically, he's shallow and very "surface"....but his good looks and witty charm seem to get him by.
What he SAID and what he's saying are two different things. He's proven that he's a two-faced whiner, just as Grid said on the first page of this thread.
He just created MAJOR locker room material for the game against us. He doesn't want to stare down Mario-DeMeco-Amobi-TJ, etc., coming full bore at his grill (IF he gets playing time at all).

The Texans' offensive line has been letting better players through at Carr for 5 years. Compared to that, I'm not so sure that this crew looks much different. He'll be fine.

[Porky]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.

Come on - David didn't lead anything in that Colts game. Kubiak had completely marginalized him by that time. David's job was to execute the quarterback-to-running-back exchange and to get the heck out of the way. And it worked - a classic example of addition by subtraction.

Bingo. We have a winner.
Ron Dayne and Vonta Leach had more to do with us beating the Colts than David did.
Caddy, you really do crack us up around here. Keep 'em comin'.


To be fair, Carr did have a really nice throw to Andre to seal the win. The problem was that those kinds of plays were the exception, and a big time QB will make those the rule. The mere fact that Kubiak had done everything except tie David's hands behind his back speaks volumes.

[The Pencil Neck]

Very true. Where are those who complained about David being handed the job?

I think that Schaub will have to earn his job. If he doesn't perform and Sage does, I believe Schaub will be benched. He comes in as The Guy but he's not going to be on the 5-year leash that DC was.
I think that Carr would have been benched at the end of last season if Sage had been healthy.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

Very true. Where are those who complained about David being handed the job?

I think that Schaub will have to earn his job. If he doesn't perform and Sage does, I believe Schaub will be benched. He comes in as The Guy but he's not going to be on the 5-year leash that DC was.
I think that Carr would have been benched at the end of last season if Sage had been healthy.

I'd like to think that you are right about Schaub having to earn the spot, but they've just handed it to him. They coaxed him out of Atlanta with a lot of fanfare, signed him to a huge deal and introduced him as the starter.
If they stayed with David after 4 years, then they won't bench Schaub during his first year. They have made a bet, and whether or not it works out, we'll have to live with it.

[Footballz]

Very true. Where are those who complained about David being handed the job?

I think that Schaub will have to earn his job.

Really? I'm not so sure, Pencil. He was signed away from the Falcons (as a back up) and handed the Texans starting job.
Now, I don't think they will wait 5 years if he doesn't pan out but he should be given some time. New team, new everything.
The Texans have placed all their eggs in the Shaub basket.

[Footballz]

I don't know if this was posted, if it has been sorry. This is a link to an interview from the panthers fan site. Its pretty long, about 10 minutes. Overall pretty good interview. He did say a few things about Houston. You can be the judge of how it is meant.

http://www.panthersfanz.com/panthersfanz_mp3player.swf


You're posting a link to a Carr interview? Are you a "Carr stalker?" [;)]

[mganz]

No i'm not a stalker. I just thought people would rather hear what he said instead of reading it. People have a tendency to take things out of context when they only read what is said.

[Footballz]

No i'm not a stalker. I just thought people would rather hear what he said instead of reading it. People have a tendency to take things out of context when they only read what is said.

I know that. :)

I think folks will take things out of context no matter what. There are some real haters here.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

I don't know if this was posted, if it has been sorry. This is a link to an interview from the panthers fan site. Its pretty long, about 10 minutes. Overall pretty good interview. He did say a few things about Houston. You can be the judge of how it is meant.

http://www.panthersfanz.com/panthersfanz_mp3player.swf


You're posting a link to a Carr interview? Are you a "Carr stalker?" [;)]

Thanks for the link. Nice interview. Sounds like things are looking up in Carolina.

[HydrOshocK]

Rush, I just know you're not alone about wanting David to play against the Texans. But it will prove nothing too a hater, or will affect those who enjoyed David 's heart and skills. But this town will stand still and every TV will be tuned into the game. It will be the closest thing to a super bowl hype that Houston has ever seen. That's the very reason... why I'm not going to entertain the idea. I surely don't what the dissappointment if David doesn't play. I got my biggest wish last year when David led us to a win against the Colts on Christmas eve.

Come on - David didn't lead anything in that Colts game. Kubiak had completely marginalized him by that time. David's job was to execute the quarterback-to-running-back exchange and to get the heck out of the way. And it worked - a classic example of addition by subtraction.

Bingo. We have a winner.
Ron Dayne and Vonta Leach had more to do with us beating the Colts than David did.
Caddy, you really do crack us up around here. Keep 'em comin'.


To be fair, Carr did have a really nice throw to Andre to seal the win. The problem was that those kinds of plays were the exception, and a big time QB will make those the rule. The mere fact that Kubiak had done everything except tie David's hands behind his back speaks volumes.


Bingo!! Finally someone hits the nail on the head. Love him if you want to but the real reason Carr is gone is because he failed to make the plays that big time QBs make, and he failed to provide the leadership to make those around him better. I'm tired of hearing all of the crying about the O-Line not protecting him. He's not the first one to have that problem. Like I said before in another thread, Troy Aikman played behind a terrible offensive line his first few yrs in the league. He was sacked 11 times against the Eagles in '91. But you didn't see him crumbling under pressure, making poor decisions, staring down one receiver, and turning the ball over after 5 yrs in the league. Instead he got fired up, got in their face, and demanded they give him more time. And in return he made the plays when he had to.
I was a big DC fan when he was drafted for the simple fact that he was my team's franchise QB and he deserved the benefit of the doubt. But year after year I waited for him to step his game up and make plays. Time after time I was disappointed. I for one am tired of waiting, therefore I am not sad to see him go. The bottom line is big time QBs raise their game and make others around them better. period. The rest just make excuses. Maybe he can turn it around for another team. If so then good for him. I have my serious doubts about that. However, even if he does he is no longer the QB of the Houston Texans so it is too little too late as far as I'm concerned. Now it's time for me to give Matt Schaub the benefit of the doubt.

[GP]

No i'm not a stalker. I just thought people would rather hear what he said instead of reading it. People have a tendency to take things out of context when they only read what is said.

I know that. :)

I think folks will take things out of context no matter what. There are some real haters here.

"There are some real haters here."
Yeah, and there are some real "lovers" here, too.
As a guy who used to spend endless late nights arguing that DC was going to make it and be our QB, I am now on the flip side of it--DC is a workout warrior, a guy who looks like a football player and who practices like a champion...throw him into the battle, and more times than not, he ends up cratering BIG TIME.
Sure, he had a few good "clutch" moments, but it was rare. He needed to go.
And for us to just sit back and let some of you attempt to re-write history and to try and puff up a guy who is now trashing OUR team in the media...well, I'm not going to stand for it.
It is what it is.
Love and Hate are connected, I guess.

[caddy]

GP, it is what it is... David's gone. I agree about you not standing. Have a seat and enjoy the show. Texans have paid a big price for Schaubie and it's almost time to cash-in.

[GP]

GP, it is what it is... David's gone. I agree about you not standing. Have a seat and enjoy the show. Texans have paid a big price for Schaubie and it's almost time to cash-in.
We paid a big price for David Carr, too. The blame for THAT situation, IMO, rests upon both the Texans Owner, Coach, and FO (for offering the extension) and upon David for accepting it. Both parties tried one last time to see if things could work. It wasn't working. Period. Any casual observer could see that a change was coming.
IF Schaub doesn't work out, it wasn't a "mistake" to get rid of David Carr. I learned a lesson as a fan: Don't get too loyal to a player...the big picture is about the t-e-a-m. I like where this staff is going with this team--It looks more like an NFL operation than it ever did under Casserly/Capers.
I will root for Schaub. He's the QB. And if the worm ever turns, then I'll start understanding that we need a new direction to get the right fit for our team.
You are right: I am going to sit and enjoy the show.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

GP, it is what it is... David's gone. I agree about you not standing. Have a seat and enjoy the show. Texans have paid a big price for Schaubie and it's almost time to cash-in.
We paid a big price for David Carr, too. The blame for THAT situation, IMO, rests upon both the Texans Owner, Coach, and FO (for offering the extension) and upon David for accepting it. Both parties tried one last time to see if things could work. It wasn't working. Period. Any casual observer could see that a change was coming.
IF Schaub doesn't work out, it wasn't a "mistake" to get rid of David Carr. I learned a lesson as a fan: Don't get too loyal to a player...the big picture is about the t-e-a-m. I like where this staff is going with this team--It looks more like an NFL operation than it ever did under Casserly/Capers.
I will root for Schaub. He's the QB. And if the worm ever turns, then I'll start understanding that we need a new direction to get the right fit for our team.
You are right: I am going to sit and enjoy the show.

... or at least watch the show.

[tsip]

I'm just glad we don't have to read all David's brother's 'inside info' that was all BS--talk about 'classless'- my family would expect me to climb to a higher level intead of soaking up all the excuses for my bad play...

[GP]

I'm just glad we don't have to read all David's brother's 'inside info' that was all BS--talk about 'classless'- my family would expect me to climb to a higher level intead of soaking up all the excuses for my bad play...
Yep.
If my brother was stinking it up, I'd like to think that I could be honest about it rather than trying to spray on another 10 pumps of cologne to try and mask the bad odor.
In my conversations with David's brother (through private messages and through regular posts) I got the sense that the whole family has never really been taken to task on anything...it was pretty clear to me that the Carr family was "it" back in California, and they didn't appreciate anybody thinking otherwise here in Texas. And although I didn't have personal conversations with David himself, you gotta' think that his brother (Darren) was merely parroting what he hears Daddy and big bro talking about all the time. The apple doesn't usually fall far from the tree.
I sure am glad that our team has some bulletin board material now. Thanks, David, for another quality job at the interview aspect of being a QB in the NFL. You came through again.

[HydrOshocK]

I'm just glad we don't have to read all David's brother's 'inside info' that was all BS--talk about 'classless'- my family would expect me to climb to a higher level intead of soaking up all the excuses for my bad play...
Yep.
If my brother was stinking it up, I'd like to think that I could be honest about it rather than trying to spray on another 10 pumps of cologne to try and mask the bad odor.
In my conversations with David's brother (through private messages and through regular posts) I got the sense that the whole family has never really been taken to task on anything...it was pretty clear to me that the Carr family was "it" back in California, and they didn't appreciate anybody thinking otherwise here in Texas. And although I didn't have personal conversations with David himself, you gotta' think that his brother (Darren) was merely parroting what he hears Daddy and big bro talking about all the time. The apple doesn't usually fall far from the tree.
I sure am glad that our team has some bulletin board material now. Thanks, David, for another quality job at the interview aspect of being a QB in the NFL. You came through again.


I wasn't around for all of that back then. I know it'll be beating a dead horse but do you mind enlightening me with some of the things he said?

[HOU-TEX]

I'm just glad we don't have to read all David's brother's 'inside info' that was all BS--talk about 'classless'- my family would expect me to climb to a higher level intead of soaking up all the excuses for my bad play...
I agree! Sadly there are some around here that are making an attempt to take over for him. I can think of 4 off the top of my head. They're fans (stalkers) of the player, not the Texans.

[tsip]

...just curious, Footballz/Nordic, is David moving his mommy and daddy to Carolina?
Also, do the Pamthers have a release clause in David's contract if he does not make the opening day roster?

[Footballz]

...just curious, Footballz/Nordic, is David moving his mommy and daddy to Carolina?


No, David's parents are not moving.
http://www.hcnonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18179059&BRD=1574&PAG=461&dept_id=542579&rfi=6

[Nordic Vadar 1]

...just curious, Footballz/Nordic, is David moving his mommy and daddy to Carolina?
Also, do the Pamthers have a release clause in David's contract if he does not make the opening day roster?

lol

[Footballz]

...just curious, Footballz/Nordic, is David moving his mommy and daddy to Carolina?
Also, do the Pamthers have a release clause in David's contract if he does not make the opening day roster?

lol


You think this guy doesn't know how to use a search engine or is just lazy?

[tsip]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...
However, I did like the post from one of the asst coaches sbout 2 things that happen when Carr goes back to pass and neither is good--I'd post it but-then-I know how everyone in the Carr family knows everything and would find some smartas- statement to make, so use your own search engine...and wait till you hear the scuttle butt...

[Footballz]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...


Lol..lol..lol..lol... not only can I use a dictionary AND a search engine, I don't ask stupid questions that can be easily found on my own.

[GP]

I'm just glad we don't have to read all David's brother's 'inside info' that was all BS--talk about 'classless'- my family would expect me to climb to a higher level intead of soaking up all the excuses for my bad play...
Yep.
If my brother was stinking it up, I'd like to think that I could be honest about it rather than trying to spray on another 10 pumps of cologne to try and mask the bad odor.
In my conversations with David's brother (through private messages and through regular posts) I got the sense that the whole family has never really been taken to task on anything...it was pretty clear to me that the Carr family was "it" back in California, and they didn't appreciate anybody thinking otherwise here in Texas. And although I didn't have personal conversations with David himself, you gotta' think that his brother (Darren) was merely parroting what he hears Daddy and big bro talking about all the time. The apple doesn't usually fall far from the tree.
I sure am glad that our team has some bulletin board material now. Thanks, David, for another quality job at the interview aspect of being a QB in the NFL. You came through again.


I wasn't around for all of that back then. I know it'll be beating a dead horse but do you mind enlightening me with some of the things he said?

My story of encountering David Carr's brother (Hulk75 was his screen name) is a story that begins in 2006 about two months before the draft. Go grab a cup of coffee and put on some slow jazz.
Here we go:
I posted a message on the board about how I was tired of David slacking and basically drifting through the seasons as our QB. Hulk75 private messaged me and said "Look, I want to tell you something BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE. I am David's brother. I noticed you said you are a children's pastor. My grandfather was a minister, too. I feel like I can trust you. I can tell you that he does not slack. He works hard. He loves football. He loves this team. (blah blah blah)."
I was shocked. At first, I didn't believe him. I noticed in his username bio that he had a birthdate, and his location was in California. He signed his private message with "DC," and then I started thinking that maybe it was DAVID himself.
So, I did some research. Google is a wonderful thing. Here's what I discovered:
1.) I found some documents via Google, such as a "Good Luck, David, on going to the Texans" page from Stockdale High's website that showed a lot of yearbook photos of David...a section mentioning his brothers by name (Darren is Hulk75, hence the signing of his private message with "DC").
2.) I found a newspaper article about how their grandfather was a longtime pastor of a church. So, that was another thing that checked out.
I asked Vinny by telling Vinny that I figured it out, and Vinny said in a round-about way that I was right. Vinny never said "Yes" or "No," but he clued me with some things he said that confirmed what I suspected. From what I understand, only 2 or 3 of us knew he was David's brother. 99% of the other posters thought he was just a very passionate and loyal David Carr fan. Because you have to understand that Hulk75 would type on and on and on about how great David was, etc., and it made people wonder and speculate that the guy was a psycho player stalker.
A week before the 2006 draft, Hulk75 private messaged me and said "It's going to be Reggie Bush. My brother overheard it. It's a done deal." I was excited...until about Thursday when it was reported that Mario had a verbal commitment if we could work out the details soon. Reggie was out. I pm'd Hulk75 and said "What happened?" He pm'd me back and said "David is shocked, too. Don;t know what the deal is." It was the first speed bump for me in terms of this guy was the real deal or if he, too, had used Google like I did and therefore was playing a role. I still remained convinced, though, because Hulk75's grammar and spelling was awful. The reasearch on Darren (Hulk75) I did also turned up the suggestion that he was, indeed, not very good at the academic side of college sports.
With Kubiak as coach (The guy who saves QBs from demise), Darren was very confident that all was about to be well. I believed it would happen. I supported David. But as the regular season rolled along, things turned ugly on the message board. Darren "came out" publicly. Darren began scorching and flaming EVERYBODY on every single post about David that was not pro-David. His attitude and demeanor was horrid. You guys have seen NOTHING on these boards like what happened between Darren and Doug From The Woodlands, SWTbound, etc. It was like a bull in a china closet...Darren had gone on tilt.
I turned on him, telling him that he was awful for acting like he did. I said to him, in a private message, that he is taking it to personal and he needs to step back. He pm'd me back and gave meone of the most scathing and coldblooded responses I have ever seen. He had lost the ability to care about anything other than making everybody understand that David was OK. I pm'd him back one last time and said, "Bro, you are off your rocker. It's sad to see you this way. See ya."
A few weeks later, he pm'd me back and said "I'm sorry. It was wrong." and he gave a more lengthy apology that I don't want to get into at the moment. I felt it was sincere. I was glad that he had calmed down. I wonder if David and David's handlers were tipped off to it and asked Darren to restrain himself for the sake of David's public image, etc.
The calm ended during the early stages of the offseason when speculation arose that we were trading David. It was "on" again, and it was the same act by Darren again: Raging, angry, accusatory toward everyone, arrogant, reckless, you name it. I sat back and gave a big sigh. That's when I knew that Darren was nowhere near the ability to detach and understand how things work in Big Boy Land. He loves his brother, and as far as he was concerned...is brother just got beat up at school by a bully, and Darren was going to protect David. I shot public posts onto the board that basically said "Get lost, Darren. You care about your side of the story and not what we see as fans. Just leave and go ruin the other NFL teams' message boards. You're not a Texans fan. You're a David fan. So, see ya later."
In the last stages of Darren's posting here, it consisted of Darren posting in the NFL Section because all David Carr posts had been moved there by the moderators. Darren would change his avatar to the logo of teams such as Oakland, to rub it in or faces that Oakland was reportedly interested in David. He had a few disciples that would lick his rear and brown-nose him because now Darren was fully embracing his identity as David's brother. It was sickening, IMO. Darren, I am convinced, is either truly a devoted brother to David or he is a scam artist. Either way, he provided no real substance when it boils down to it.
I could go on. But I'm tired.
I have tried as best I can, to provide you with (a) a chronoligical order of my message board encounters with Darren, and (b) as close to what was said without exaggerating either way. It's hard to re-tell the story after a full year since it first started. I think I gave you all a pretty good glimpse of what I (and others) dealt with in terms of David's brother. By the time we signed Schaub and it was clear that David was out...things picked up rapidly to the point where Darren was phasing himself out, much to the relief of almost everyone here.
But there is a small remnant of people here who still love David a lot. I can understand it. I might not like it, but I undertand it. David is a class act at home, in public, etc. He is likeable. A lot of people think he didn't get the oline that was needed for him to show his skills better. I thought that way for a long time, but I made my mind up that it's David's lot in life to be the guy who looks like a champ but is not going to get over the top. Ever. It's just not in the cards. It's fairly obvious to anyone who sees his mechanical errors, his mental errors, and his inability to lead the entire team.
None of the things these posters are posting comes close to what Darren posted and the way Darren acted. So, IMO, it's good to have a few DC fans around to remember the old times.
It was real. And it was fun. But it wasn't "real fun," I can tell you that.
No, where's my book deal? I should publish this and get paid for it.

[GP]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...
However, I did like the post from one of the asst coaches sbout 2 things that happen when Carr goes back to pass and neither is good--I'd post it but-then-I know how everyone in the Carr family knows everything and would find some smartas- statement to make, so use your own search engine...and wait till you hear the scuttle butt...

I couldn't find it on google.
Can you give us the link? Pretty please?
I'm dying to see how the coach has worded it. I'm sure it's the same "But we can fix that..." answer that we heard a year ago from Kubiak, and several years ago from Chris Palmer who had him throwing over 12-foot ladders in practice.
David's always "almost there," isn't he? LOL.
It's a tragic comedy.

[Footballz]

GP, it is what it is... David's gone. I agree about you not standing. Have a seat and enjoy the show. Texans have paid a big price for Schaubie and it's almost time to cash-in.
You are right: I am going to sit and enjoy the show.


I can't wait for "the show" to start. In most respects, I hate the off season.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

...just curious, Footballz/Nordic, is David moving his mommy and daddy to Carolina?
Also, do the Pamthers have a release clause in David's contract if he does not make the opening day roster?

lol


You think this guy doesn't know how to use a search engine or is just lazy?

Given such a question what I really wonder is if he is actually 6 years old, or just acts like it.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

GP, it is what it is... David's gone. I agree about you not standing. Have a seat and enjoy the show. Texans have paid a big price for Schaubie and it's almost time to cash-in.
You are right: I am going to sit and enjoy the show.


I can't wait for "the show" to start. In most respects, I hate the off season.

Me neither. Can't get here soon enough.

[tsip]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10184376

GP, this is not the article I was talking about-their are several with similar themes that the NFL is not all 'gushy' about Carr like they were when the Texans were getting blamed for Carr's lack of progress.
Look toward the end of the page where Vic talks about Carr's poor play with the Texans and that-for Carr to have any kind of shot to start for the Panthers-he needs to sit out for at least a year. According to this writer, many are now saying the Panthers should have taken Brady Quinn as their franchise QB.
The coach I was talking about was amazed at all the passes Carr was getting batted down with his side arm delivery. He said it was clear to see that many times in the past Carr either got sacked or got the ball batted down. There is no way David can correct his mechanics over night-and that's a big list-plus he was not self-motivated to fix those problems in the past...instead, he was content to let everyone make excuses for him.
Is Carr a $6million bargain or are the Panthers beginning to think 'huh oh.' Carr might be better off not 'dissing' his former team as his results on the field with Carolina mirror those of his Texan results. Just guessing, but I think Carr's 'walking on water' and 'prima donna status' are over.

[BACCARAT BRUSHES]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10184376

GP, this is not the article I was talking about-their are several with similar themes that the NFL is not all 'gushy' about Carr like they were when the Texans were getting blamed for Carr's lack of progress.
Look toward the end of the page where Vic talks about Carr's poor play with the Texans and that-for Carr to have any kind of shot to start for the Panthers-he needs to sit out for at least a year. According to this writer, many are now saying the Panthers should have taken Brady Quinn as their franchise QB.
The coach I was talking about was amazed at all the passes Carr was getting batted down with his side arm delivery. He said it was clear to see that many times in the past Carr either got sacked or got the ball batted down. There is no way David can correct his mechanics over night-and that's a big list-plus he was not self-motivated to fix those problems in the past...instead, he was content to let everyone make excuses for him.
Is Carr a $6million bargain or are the Panthers beginning to think 'huh oh.' Carr might be better off not 'dissing' his former team as his results on the field with Carolina mirror those of his Texan results. Just guessing, but I think Carr's 'walking on water' and 'prima donna status' are over.

?
Seems to me that Carr's "walking on water" era ended long ago. It seems to me that the guy that everyone thinks walks on water is Schaub. I guess we'll see in a few months.

[GP]

Thanks, tsip.
It was a good article, and I appreciate you sharing it.
Never thought about how they moved down and watched Brady Quinn go to the Browns three picks earlier. That might be a Draft Day Blooper in the future: "And who can forget the Panthers who traded down with the Jets...only to watch Brady Quinn go to the Browns just three picks before them?"
Don't get me wrong: I;m not sure Brady is the HOFer he's made out to be. But...the Panthers have little to back up Delhomme.
Here's something I know that a lot of people don't know: I live 20 minutes north of Canyon, TX, where West Texas A&M University is located. I am a WTAMU grad. The Panthers signed former WTAMU QB Dalton Bell as an UDFA after this year's draft. Dalton led our team to almost two straight undefeated seasons, racked up about a billion yards passing and as many TDs as a Texas Tech QB can produce (WT runs the TTU spread offense, and possibly run it better than TTU does).
Dalton's best attribute? He stands in the pocket and scans the field, going through his progressions sometimes even TWICE before he throws the ball. I couldn't believe that a guy would stand there that long and have such poise. He could look down field and slide up, back, left, right, diagonal, whatever, in order to shake a pass rusher...and the whole time never lose focus on the WRs. He got sacked a few times because of this, but as I watched it the past two seasons, I would think: "Now THAT is who David Carr should be watching." Dalton doesnt care about the pressure. It drives DBs nuts because he senses the pressure and just bloops around while still keeping his shoulders square so e can fire the ball. Accuracy? He's accurate. Mobile? He's mobile.
Anyways, just sharing with you that David has some competition at backup QB. He's going against Dalton Bell who might not have played at a D-I school...but I guarantee you the coaches are going to see that Dalton withstands pressure a lot better than David. Man, it would be cool if Dalton won the backup job.
Here's a link to the football section of WTAMU's athletics page. You can find Dalton's stats and some news stories about our team. We have won the LSC for the past two years. And, we have a QB coach named Ryan Leaf...yes, the NFL Draft bust. If you haven't seen his interview with ESPN Outside The Lines..you should. He's a 100% change person. He loves it in small town Canyon. And the people have embraced him as one of their own. Anyway, here's the link to the WT football page:
http://gobuffsgo.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/wtam-m-footbl-body.html
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/wtam/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/1088413.jpeg

[Footballz]

...just curious, Footballz/Nordic, is David moving his mommy and daddy to Carolina?
Also, do the Pamthers have a release clause in David's contract if he does not make the opening day roster?

lol


You think this guy doesn't know how to use a search engine or is just lazy?

Given such a question what I really wonder is if he is actually 6 years old, or just acts like it.


Maturity can be a rare commodity.

[BACCARAT BRUSHES]

...just curious, Footballz/Nordic, is David moving his mommy and daddy to Carolina?
Also, do the Pamthers have a release clause in David's contract if he does not make the opening day roster?

lol


You think this guy doesn't know how to use a search engine or is just lazy?

Given such a question what I really wonder is if he is actually 6 years old, or just acts like it.


Maturity can be a rare commodity.

What is interesting is that, although David left a couple of months ago, this thread is easily the longest on the Board. While we have had a lot of players leave the team, you don't see this kind of interest in any of them linger on the board.
It is kind of ironic that some Texans fans have much more interest in seeing David do poorly than they do in seeing the Texans do well. They may get neither of their wishes though.

[tsip]

The Panthers have 2 young QB's with very good potential in Basanez and Bell, the prior QB having participated in the Panther Traveling show--Carr was never a player to participate in fan projects, so I don't know if that is important to the Panthers or not.
Carolina has already experienced Carr's 'throwing motion' problems and will soon know David can't read a defense/can't do a 3-4-7 step progression/can't hit receiver's in stride/has bad ball placement, etc. It will be interesting to see what kind of skills these other 2 qbs bring to the table, plus both are being paid alot less $$ than Carr--who has never had much success in the NFL.
Will the Panthers see enough positives in Carr that he has 'starter' potential and is worth the money? I, mean, even a 5 yr old can figure out that Carr's scenario is not the same with the Panthers as it was with the Texans.

[caddy]

tsip... did Carr ever take your lunch money from you? As for you pointing out Vic's writing that some feel like the Panthers miss-out on not taking Quinn. Well Vic's pick on the top 4 winners of this years Draft has the Panthers at the top. So you can see how much stock you can put in thinking they missed out. In fact I got a few dollars that I will put on the Panthers against the team who also passed on Quinn... you know the one with the new can't miss QB from the Falcons.

[tsip]

tsip... did Carr ever take your lunch money from you? As for you pointing out Vic's writing that some feel like the Panthers miss-out on not taking Quinn. Well Vic's pick on the top 4 winners of this years Draft has the Panthers at the top. So you can see how much stock you can put in thinking they missed out. In fact I got a few dollars that I will put on the Panthers against the team who also passed on Quinn... you know the one with the new can't miss QB from the Falcons.
...as usual, you miss the entire point! After just giving Carr a 'big' b/u contract, why did the Panthers feel the need to trade-up for Quinn?
Don't hold your breath on David's length of tenure in Carolina!! From what I've heard, the coaches are shocked at how bad his mechanics are after 5 yrs in the NFL!!
Finally, how come the fans in Carolina don't even mention Carr's name?

[HydrOshocK]

Thanks, tsip.
It was a good article, and I appreciate you sharing it.
Never thought about how they moved down and watched Brady Quinn go to the Browns three picks earlier. That might be a Draft Day Blooper in the future: "And who can forget the Panthers who traded down with the Jets...only to watch Brady Quinn go to the Browns just three picks before them?"
Don't get me wrong: I;m not sure Brady is the HOFer he's made out to be. But...the Panthers have little to back up Delhomme.
Here's something I know that a lot of people don't know: I live 20 minutes north of Canyon, TX, where West Texas A&M University is located. I am a WTAMU grad. The Panthers signed former WTAMU QB Dalton Bell as an UDFA after this year's draft. Dalton led our team to almost two straight undefeated seasons, racked up about a billion yards passing and as many TDs as a Texas Tech QB can produce (WT runs the TTU spread offense, and possibly run it better than TTU does).
Dalton's best attribute? He stands in the pocket and scans the field, going through his progressions sometimes even TWICE before he throws the ball. I couldn't believe that a guy would stand there that long and have such poise. He could look down field and slide up, back, left, right, diagonal, whatever, in order to shake a pass rusher...and the whole time never lose focus on the WRs. He got sacked a few times because of this, but as I watched it the past two seasons, I would think: "Now THAT is who David Carr should be watching." Dalton doesnt care about the pressure. It drives DBs nuts because he senses the pressure and just bloops around while still keeping his shoulders square so e can fire the ball. Accuracy? He's accurate. Mobile? He's mobile.
Anyways, just sharing with you that David has some competition at backup QB. He's going against Dalton Bell who might not have played at a D-I school...but I guarantee you the coaches are going to see that Dalton withstands pressure a lot better than David. Man, it would be cool if Dalton won the backup job.
Here's a link to the football section of WTAMU's athletics page. You can find Dalton's stats and some news stories about our team. We have won the LSC for the past two years. And, we have a QB coach named Ryan Leaf...yes, the NFL Draft bust. If you haven't seen his interview with ESPN Outside The Lines..you should. He's a 100% change person. He loves it in small town Canyon. And the people have embraced him as one of their own. Anyway, here's the link to the WT football page:
http://gobuffsgo.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/wtam-m-footbl-body.html
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/wtam/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/1088413.jpeg


Hey GP, ecellent post. Thanks for the info on Bell. I've never heard of the guy but it sounds like he has guts to stand their so long in the pocket. And Ryan Leaf?? Are you serious??

[GP]

Ryan Leaf was hired by WTAMU head coach Don Carthel.
Don Carthel coached Eastern New Mexico University, our (WTAMU'S) arch rival. There's a very bitter rivalry there. Don Carthel, several years ago, wanted to coach WTAMU but was turned down. So, he went to ENMU and ENMU basically owned us for a long time. Don Carthel then left ENMU to coach the Amarillo Dusters (2nd tier AFL team) and had great success in his first year, which was three years ago. Meanwhile, WT fired its head coach who had two or three wins over the same span of Don Carthel. The firing led to WT hiring Don Carthel.
Don immediately instituted the spread offense, and here's where it gets crazy: The WT offensive coordinator (and assistants) asked Mike Leach of TTU if they could learn the offense from them. The TTU head coach said, "You bet. Come on down and make yourself at home." The WT coaches practically lived at TTU over the offseason two years ago, and were granted ALL ACCESS into the TTU meetings, gameplanning sessions, practices, any part of the facilit and any part of the program that they wanted to explore. Still to this day I don't understand why TTU allowed it. I mean, WT was given full privileges to the TTU staff and all insider material. That's n-u-t-s. Maybe WT paid them for it, I don't know.
So, two years ago Don Carthel led the WT team into the season with all the polls ranking our team dead last and with maybe 2 wins projected at-best. We lost only one to two games, won the conference and a first-round bye in the playoffs. We won the ENMU rivalry for the first time, shocking everyone in our area. The stadium now has a jumbo-tron, new stadium seats with drink holders, sponsors, etc. All this after one tremendous season. Currently, we're pretty much an unstoppable force. We can have the ball on our own 10-yd. line with 45 seconds left in the half, and march it down the field and score a TD and sill have 6 seconds on the clock. This past season, we made it into the second round of the playoffs but got crushe by some team in Nebraska.
During this past offseason, Don Carthel was told about Ryan Leaf from a colleague of Don's. Don Carthel said, "You bet. I'll call him up." Ryan Leaf became our QB coach. and his first year was this past season.
Ryan Leaf lives in a small apartment in Canyon, TX--population about 8,000. He took no salary last year. He now takes a salary of about $20,000 or so because he's also taken on the Golf Coach job on campus for our collegiate golf team.
When interviewed on ESPN Outside the Lines, he says he does not miss the NFL. He says he made bad mistakes caused by his own lack of maturity--It was actually very painful to watch a guy on national TV basically admit to his faults and to see him be so transparent and so vulnerable. It wasn't an act, I can tell you that. It made me sympathize with the guy. It made realize how shark-like the media is, and how bloodthirsty we are as a nation of sports fans--We love to see someone get built up, torn down, and re-built again.
Ryan Leaf says that his main goal is to coach college ball in his home state (Montana, I think). When asked if he has thoughts of then leaping back into the NFL as a coach, he very rapidly and very firmly said "No. The pro game is much different than the college game. I couldn't make it in the NFL because I'm not made for it. I wouldn't work out in the pros even as a coach. The college game is a better spot for me."
It's actually kinda' cool that he's found a refuge away from the spotlight. Nobody bothers him. He gets to do his job and menor guys like Dalton Bell who was our QB until he signed as an UDFA a few weeks ago with the Panthers. Ryan Leaf has found a place to start over again.
WTAMU is a cool place. Its small, but has a lot of tradition going back to the early 1900s. It's great to have a good football team. Enrollment is staggering, due to the football team. It's sad to say it, but high shool kids put a lot of their decision-making into a colleeg's football team: Bad team? Kids don't want to got to that kind of college...it's a sign that you don't do the other things well. We're soooo sports-driven in America. LOL.

[SuperstarII]

I'm just glad we don't have to read all David's brother's 'inside info' that was all BS--talk about 'classless'- my family would expect me to climb to a higher level intead of soaking up all the excuses for my bad play...
Yep.
If my brother was stinking it up, I'd like to think that I could be honest about it rather than trying to spray on another 10 pumps of cologne to try and mask the bad odor.
In my conversations with David's brother (through private messages and through regular posts) I got the sense that the whole family has never really been taken to task on anything...it was pretty clear to me that the Carr family was "it" back in California, and they didn't appreciate anybody thinking otherwise here in Texas. And although I didn't have personal conversations with David himself, you gotta' think that his brother (Darren) was merely parroting what he hears Daddy and big bro talking about all the time. The apple doesn't usually fall far from the tree.
I sure am glad that our team has some bulletin board material now. Thanks, David, for another quality job at the interview aspect of being a QB in the NFL. You came through again.


I wasn't around for all of that back then. I know it'll be beating a dead horse but do you mind enlightening me with some of the things he said?

My story of encountering David Carr's brother (Hulk75 was his screen name) is a story that begins in 2006 about two months before the draft. Go grab a cup of coffee and put on some slow jazz.
Here we go:
I posted a message on the board about how I was tired of David slacking and basically drifting through the seasons as our QB. Hulk75 private messaged me and said "Look, I want to tell you something BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE. I am David's brother. I noticed you said you are a children's pastor. My grandfather was a minister, too. I feel like I can trust you. I can tell you that he does not slack. He works hard. He loves football. He loves this team. (blah blah blah)."
I was shocked. At first, I didn't believe him. I noticed in his username bio that he had a birthdate, and his location was in California. He signed his private message with "DC," and then I started thinking that maybe it was DAVID himself.
So, I did some research. Google is a wonderful thing. Here's what I discovered:
1.) I found some documents via Google, such as a "Good Luck, David, on going to the Texans" page from Stockdale High's website that showed a lot of yearbook photos of David...a section mentioning his brothers by name (Darren is Hulk75, hence the signing of his private message with "DC").
2.) I found a newspaper article about how their grandfather was a longtime pastor of a church. So, that was another thing that checked out.
I asked Vinny by telling Vinny that I figured it out, and Vinny said in a round-about way that I was right. Vinny never said "Yes" or "No," but he clued me with some things he said that confirmed what I suspected. From what I understand, only 2 or 3 of us knew he was David's brother. 99% of the other posters thought he was just a very passionate and loyal David Carr fan. Because you have to understand that Hulk75 would type on and on and on about how great David was, etc., and it made people wonder and speculate that the guy was a psycho player stalker.
A week before the 2006 draft, Hulk75 private messaged me and said "It's going to be Reggie Bush. My brother overheard it. It's a done deal." I was excited...until about Thursday when it was reported that Mario had a verbal commitment if we could work out the details soon. Reggie was out. I pm'd Hulk75 and said "What happened?" He pm'd me back and said "David is shocked, too. Don;t know what the deal is." It was the first speed bump for me in terms of this guy was the real deal or if he, too, had used Google like I did and therefore was playing a role. I still remained convinced, though, because Hulk75's grammar and spelling was awful. The reasearch on Darren (Hulk75) I did also turned up the suggestion that he was, indeed, not very good at the academic side of college sports.
With Kubiak as coach (The guy who saves QBs from demise), Darren was very confident that all was about to be well. I believed it would happen. I supported David. But as the regular season rolled along, things turned ugly on the message board. Darren "came out" publicly. Darren began scorching and flaming EVERYBODY on every single post about David that was not pro-David. His attitude and demeanor was horrid. You guys have seen NOTHING on these boards like what happened between Darren and Doug From The Woodlands, SWTbound, etc. It was like a bull in a china closet...Darren had gone on tilt.
I turned on him, telling him that he was awful for acting like he did. I said to him, in a private message, that he is taking it to personal and he needs to step back. He pm'd me back and gave meone of the most scathing and coldblooded responses I have ever seen. He had lost the ability to care about anything other than making everybody understand that David was OK. I pm'd him back one last time and said, "Bro, you are off your rocker. It's sad to see you this way. See ya."
A few weeks later, he pm'd me back and said "I'm sorry. It was wrong." and he gave a more lengthy apology that I don't want to get into at the moment. I felt it was sincere. I was glad that he had calmed down. I wonder if David and David's handlers were tipped off to it and asked Darren to restrain himself for the sake of David's public image, etc.
The calm ended during the early stages of the offseason when speculation arose that we were trading David. It was "on" again, and it was the same act by Darren again: Raging, angry, accusatory toward everyone, arrogant, reckless, you name it. I sat back and gave a big sigh. That's when I knew that Darren was nowhere near the ability to detach and understand how things work in Big Boy Land. He loves his brother, and as far as he was concerned...is brother just got beat up at school by a bully, and Darren was going to protect David. I shot public posts onto the board that basically said "Get lost, Darren. You care about your side of the story and not what we see as fans. Just leave and go ruin the other NFL teams' message boards. You're not a Texans fan. You're a David fan. So, see ya later."
In the last stages of Darren's posting here, it consisted of Darren posting in the NFL Section because all David Carr posts had been moved there by the moderators. Darren would change his avatar to the logo of teams such as Oakland, to rub it in or faces that Oakland was reportedly interested in David. He had a few disciples that would lick his rear and brown-nose him because now Darren was fully embracing his identity as David's brother. It was sickening, IMO. Darren, I am convinced, is either truly a devoted brother to David or he is a scam artist. Either way, he provided no real substance when it boils down to it.
I could go on. But I'm tired.
I have tried as best I can, to provide you with (a) a chronoligical order of my message board encounters with Darren, and (b) as close to what was said without exaggerating either way. It's hard to re-tell the story after a full year since it first started. I think I gave you all a pretty good glimpse of what I (and others) dealt with in terms of David's brother. By the time we signed Schaub and it was clear that David was out...things picked up rapidly to the point where Darren was phasing himself out, much to the relief of almost everyone here.
But there is a small remnant of people here who still love David a lot. I can understand it. I might not like it, but I undertand it. David is a class act at home, in public, etc. He is likeable. A lot of people think he didn't get the oline that was needed for him to show his skills better. I thought that way for a long time, but I made my mind up that it's David's lot in life to be the guy who looks like a champ but is not going to get over the top. Ever. It's just not in the cards. It's fairly obvious to anyone who sees his mechanical errors, his mental errors, and his inability to lead the entire team.
None of the things these posters are posting comes close to what Darren posted and the way Darren acted. So, IMO, it's good to have a few DC fans around to remember the old times.
It was real. And it was fun. But it wasn't "real fun," I can tell you that.
No, where's my book deal? I should publish this and get paid for it.

LOL

BTW I believe good ol Hulk is still posting around.

[Footballz]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...
However, I did like the post from one of the asst coaches sbout 2 things that happen when Carr goes back to pass and neither is good--I'd post it but-then-I know how everyone in the Carr family knows everything and would find some smartas- statement to make, so use your own search engine...and wait till you hear the scuttle butt...

I couldn't find it on google.
Can you give us the link? Pretty please?
I'm dying to see how the coach has worded it. I'm sure it's the same "But we can fix that..." answer that we heard a year ago from Kubiak, and several years ago from Chris Palmer who had him throwing over 12-foot ladders in practice.
David's always "almost there," isn't he? LOL.
It's a tragic comedy.



Are you still waiting for your link from tsip?

[Footballz]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10184376
The coach I was talking about was amazed at all the passes Carr was getting batted down with his side arm delivery. He said it was clear to see that many times in the past Carr either got sacked or got the ball batted down. There is no way David can correct his mechanics over night-and that's a big list-plus he was not self-motivated to fix those problems in the past...instead, he was content to let everyone make excuses for him.


There are no quotes here about Carr's delivery. Can't you read?

[Just Earl]

The coach I was talking about was amazed at all the passes Carr was getting batted down with his side arm delivery.

[HydrOshocK]

I'm just glad we don't have to read all David's brother's 'inside info' that was all BS--talk about 'classless'- my family would expect me to climb to a higher level intead of soaking up all the excuses for my bad play...
Yep.
If my brother was stinking it up, I'd like to think that I could be honest about it rather than trying to spray on another 10 pumps of cologne to try and mask the bad odor.
In my conversations with David's brother (through private messages and through regular posts) I got the sense that the whole family has never really been taken to task on anything...it was pretty clear to me that the Carr family was "it" back in California, and they didn't appreciate anybody thinking otherwise here in Texas. And although I didn't have personal conversations with David himself, you gotta' think that his brother (Darren) was merely parroting what he hears Daddy and big bro talking about all the time. The apple doesn't usually fall far from the tree.
I sure am glad that our team has some bulletin board material now. Thanks, David, for another quality job at the interview aspect of being a QB in the NFL. You came through again.


I wasn't around for all of that back then. I know it'll be beating a dead horse but do you mind enlightening me with some of the things he said?

My story of encountering David Carr's brother (Hulk75 was his screen name) is a story that begins in 2006 about two months before the draft. Go grab a cup of coffee and put on some slow jazz.
Here we go:
I posted a message on the board about how I was tired of David slacking and basically drifting through the seasons as our QB. Hulk75 private messaged me and said "Look, I want to tell you something BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE. I am David's brother. I noticed you said you are a children's pastor. My grandfather was a minister, too. I feel like I can trust you. I can tell you that he does not slack. He works hard. He loves football. He loves this team. (blah blah blah)."
I was shocked. At first, I didn't believe him. I noticed in his username bio that he had a birthdate, and his location was in California. He signed his private message with "DC," and then I started thinking that maybe it was DAVID himself.
So, I did some research. Google is a wonderful thing. Here's what I discovered:
1.) I found some documents via Google, such as a "Good Luck, David, on going to the Texans" page from Stockdale High's website that showed a lot of yearbook photos of David...a section mentioning his brothers by name (Darren is Hulk75, hence the signing of his private message with "DC").
2.) I found a newspaper article about how their grandfather was a longtime pastor of a church. So, that was another thing that checked out.
I asked Vinny by telling Vinny that I figured it out, and Vinny said in a round-about way that I was right. Vinny never said "Yes" or "No," but he clued me with some things he said that confirmed what I suspected. From what I understand, only 2 or 3 of us knew he was David's brother. 99% of the other posters thought he was just a very passionate and loyal David Carr fan. Because you have to understand that Hulk75 would type on and on and on about how great David was, etc., and it made people wonder and speculate that the guy was a psycho player stalker.
A week before the 2006 draft, Hulk75 private messaged me and said "It's going to be Reggie Bush. My brother overheard it. It's a done deal." I was excited...until about Thursday when it was reported that Mario had a verbal commitment if we could work out the details soon. Reggie was out. I pm'd Hulk75 and said "What happened?" He pm'd me back and said "David is shocked, too. Don;t know what the deal is." It was the first speed bump for me in terms of this guy was the real deal or if he, too, had used Google like I did and therefore was playing a role. I still remained convinced, though, because Hulk75's grammar and spelling was awful. The reasearch on Darren (Hulk75) I did also turned up the suggestion that he was, indeed, not very good at the academic side of college sports.
With Kubiak as coach (The guy who saves QBs from demise), Darren was very confident that all was about to be well. I believed it would happen. I supported David. But as the regular season rolled along, things turned ugly on the message board. Darren "came out" publicly. Darren began scorching and flaming EVERYBODY on every single post about David that was not pro-David. His attitude and demeanor was horrid. You guys have seen NOTHING on these boards like what happened between Darren and Doug From The Woodlands, SWTbound, etc. It was like a bull in a china closet...Darren had gone on tilt.
I turned on him, telling him that he was awful for acting like he did. I said to him, in a private message, that he is taking it to personal and he needs to step back. He pm'd me back and gave meone of the most scathing and coldblooded responses I have ever seen. He had lost the ability to care about anything other than making everybody understand that David was OK. I pm'd him back one last time and said, "Bro, you are off your rocker. It's sad to see you this way. See ya."
A few weeks later, he pm'd me back and said "I'm sorry. It was wrong." and he gave a more lengthy apology that I don't want to get into at the moment. I felt it was sincere. I was glad that he had calmed down. I wonder if David and David's handlers were tipped off to it and asked Darren to restrain himself for the sake of David's public image, etc.
The calm ended during the early stages of the offseason when speculation arose that we were trading David. It was "on" again, and it was the same act by Darren again: Raging, angry, accusatory toward everyone, arrogant, reckless, you name it. I sat back and gave a big sigh. That's when I knew that Darren was nowhere near the ability to detach and understand how things work in Big Boy Land. He loves his brother, and as far as he was concerned...is brother just got beat up at school by a bully, and Darren was going to protect David. I shot public posts onto the board that basically said "Get lost, Darren. You care about your side of the story and not what we see as fans. Just leave and go ruin the other NFL teams' message boards. You're not a Texans fan. You're a David fan. So, see ya later."
In the last stages of Darren's posting here, it consisted of Darren posting in the NFL Section because all David Carr posts had been moved there by the moderators. Darren would change his avatar to the logo of teams such as Oakland, to rub it in or faces that Oakland was reportedly interested in David. He had a few disciples that would lick his rear and brown-nose him because now Darren was fully embracing his identity as David's brother. It was sickening, IMO. Darren, I am convinced, is either truly a devoted brother to David or he is a scam artist. Either way, he provided no real substance when it boils down to it.
I could go on. But I'm tired.
I have tried as best I can, to provide you with (a) a chronoligical order of my message board encounters with Darren, and (b) as close to what was said without exaggerating either way. It's hard to re-tell the story after a full year since it first started. I think I gave you all a pretty good glimpse of what I (and others) dealt with in terms of David's brother. By the time we signed Schaub and it was clear that David was out...things picked up rapidly to the point where Darren was phasing himself out, much to the relief of almost everyone here.
But there is a small remnant of people here who still love David a lot. I can understand it. I might not like it, but I undertand it. David is a class act at home, in public, etc. He is likeable. A lot of people think he didn't get the oline that was needed for him to show his skills better. I thought that way for a long time, but I made my mind up that it's David's lot in life to be the guy who looks like a champ but is not going to get over the top. Ever. It's just not in the cards. It's fairly obvious to anyone who sees his mechanical errors, his mental errors, and his inability to lead the entire team.
None of the things these posters are posting comes close to what Darren posted and the way Darren acted. So, IMO, it's good to have a few DC fans around to remember the old times.
It was real. And it was fun. But it wasn't "real fun," I can tell you that.
No, where's my book deal? I should publish this and get paid for it.

LOL

BTW I believe good ol Hulk is still posting around.



jeez dude, that's an amazing story. I had no idea there was that much instability in the Carr camp. I was only around occasionaly on the old boards. However, I was fully aware of the contraversy surrounding Carr's play through the usual media outlets, as well as being an avid fan and watching Texans football year after year.
As I've said before I was a big Carr supporter in the earlier years because he was the franchise QB and I sooo wanted to see the team succeed. But I wasn't blind to his weaknesses like others. I've followed a lot of QBs over the years and you can tell when someone has "it". I started having my doubts a couple of years ago, but like many others I figured it was a coaching problem that Kubiak could straighten out.
Even though we weren't winning many games at the start of last season I could see some improvement. Carr was consistent at moving the ball on short dumps and roll outs but seemed timid in the pocket and afraid to pull the trigger on the deeper routes. As the year went on I personally saw more effort out of our O-line than in the past, but too many mistakes by Carr that disrupted the rythm of the offense....and the turnovers were so freakin aggrivating! By years end the writing was clearly on the wall. Kubes had lost faith in Carr and so had the majority of the Texans fan base, myself included.
My dad's neighbor's sister (yes I know how stupid that sounds) works for the Texans organization, and the few times I met her we would have interesting conversations about the team and Carr in particular. I told her I thought he would be gone and that we would bring Plummer in to be a quick fix at QB since he knows Kubes and the system so well. She honestly agreed that it looked like Carr would be out and that bringing Plummer in was a definite possibility.
I have to tell you, when he was given the contract extension I just didn't have anything positive left to base that decision on. And when it became apparent that Plummer wasn't going to be coming here I had already started preparing myself for another sub-par to mediocre losing season. Then came the Schaub deal that brought hope back to Houston. I know the Carr fans don't like to hear it but I truly think Schaub gives us a MUCH better chance to win now. Hopefully Carr's able to work out his issues in Carolina, but judging by the mental instability you've shed light on about his brother, something tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Thaks again for the insight.

[caddy]

I'm putting this up for the funniest post at these boards. But it a toss up between " My Dad's neighbor's sister who works for the Texans organization. " and the " She honestly agreed that it looked like Carr would be out and that bringing Plummer in was a definite possibility. "

[tsip]

I'm putting this up for the funniest post at these boards. But it a toss up between " My Dad's neighbor's sister who works for the Texans organization. " and the " She honestly agreed that it looked like Carr would be out and that bringing Plummer in was a definite possibility. "
Caddy, bet you're even looking more forard to one of your post being right! I sure hope you bet better than you post?
Was there ever a 'big' prediction you were right about?
However, as they have since day one, Carr non-lover's almost always give names/dates/weather/sources--Carr lover's have never backed their posts/call people names/and are sarcastic...
Is this the big year? Right about something?...or is Carr finally 'toast?'

[HOU-TEX]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...
However, I did like the post from one of the asst coaches sbout 2 things that happen when Carr goes back to pass and neither is good--I'd post it but-then-I know how everyone in the Carr family knows everything and would find some smartas- statement to make, so use your own search engine...and wait till you hear the scuttle butt...

I couldn't find it on google.
Can you give us the link? Pretty please?
I'm dying to see how the coach has worded it. I'm sure it's the same "But we can fix that..." answer that we heard a year ago from Kubiak, and several years ago from Chris Palmer who had him throwing over 12-foot ladders in practice.
David's always "almost there," isn't he? LOL.
It's a tragic comedy.



Are you still waiting for your link from tsip?

Are you still waiting for David Carr to majically appear in you and Caddys bedroom. Don't let Nordic and Baccurat get too jealous.

[Footballz]

I'm putting this up for the funniest post at these boards. But it a toss up between " My Dad's neighbor's sister who works for the Texans organization. " and the " She honestly agreed that it looked like Carr would be out and that bringing Plummer in was a definite possibility. "
Caddy, bet you're even looking more forard to one of your post being right! I sure hope you bet better than you post?
Was there ever a 'big' prediction you were right about?
However, as they have since day one, Carr non-lover's almost always give names/dates/weather/sources--Carr lover's have never backed their posts/call people names/and are sarcastic...
Is this the big year? Right about something?...or is Carr finally 'toast?'



Lol... Dude, you're the one with the mysterious internet links you can't post due to the Carr family and you "hear" Panther's coaches talking about David.

How often do you "hear" these voices?

[Footballz]

I'm putting this up for the funniest post at these boards. But it a toss up between " My Dad's neighbor's sister who works for the Texans organization. " and the " She honestly agreed that it looked like Carr would be out and that bringing Plummer in was a definite possibility. "


Lol.. that was funny. Don't forget tsip who won't post public internet links due to the Carr family.

LMAO!

[Footballz]

The coach I was talking about was amazed at all the passes Carr was getting batted down with his side arm delivery.


Not you Earl. It's the guy who "hears" things.

[Footballz]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...
However, I did like the post from one of the asst coaches sbout 2 things that happen when Carr goes back to pass and neither is good--I'd post it but-then-I know how everyone in the Carr family knows everything and would find some smartas- statement to make, so use your own search engine...and wait till you hear the scuttle butt...

I couldn't find it on google.
Can you give us the link? Pretty please?
I'm dying to see how the coach has worded it. I'm sure it's the same "But we can fix that..." answer that we heard a year ago from Kubiak, and several years ago from Chris Palmer who had him throwing over 12-foot ladders in practice.
David's always "almost there," isn't he? LOL.
It's a tragic comedy.



Are you still waiting for your link from tsip?

Are you still waiting for David Carr to majically appear in you and Caddys bedroom. Don't let Nordic and Baccurat get too jealous.


Is that all you've got? "Majic" and "you bedroom?" Lol... I'm not jealous. I've got an education.

[Footballz]

I think that until he becomes a starting Q.B. who can lead a team to a winning season then anything he has to say is irrelevant. So in other words what he has to say doesn't mean diddley pooh.

Just like Shaub. [;)]

[Footballz]

Just like Shaub. [;)]


True,but Schaub IS a starting Q.B. who took Carr's job and he is not talking smack about the Falcons.


Yes, it's very true. Shaub has not started one game for the Texans and has never led anyone to anything. Shaub took nothing. He was handed the job, just like Carr.

[tsip]

Just like Shaub. [;)]


True,but Schaub IS a starting Q.B. who took Carr's job and he is not talking smack about the Falcons.


Yes, it's very true. Shaub has not started one game for the Texans and has never led anyone to anything. Shaub took nothing. He was handed the job, just like Carr.

...bet you Schaub is a team player, carr never was
...bet Matt (like most NFL players) plays with the hand he's dealt and doesn't tank it like petey carr says his kin folk did
...certainly, we didn't replace the entire team this year but it will look like it
...bet carr isn't happy very long but thank the good lord he's someone elses ptoblem

[Footballz]

Just like Shaub. [;)]


True,but Schaub IS a starting Q.B. who took Carr's job and he is not talking smack about the Falcons.


Yes, it's very true. Shaub has not started one game for the Texans and has never led anyone to anything. Shaub took nothing. He was handed the job, just like Carr.

...bet you Schaub is a team player, carr never was
...bet Matt (like most NFL players) plays with the hand he's dealt and doesn't tank it like petey carr says his kin folk did
...certainly, we didn't replace the entire team this year but it will look like it
...bet carr isn't happy very long but thank the good lord he's someone elses ptoblem



Dude, you are still way out in left field.
This is the post by Anti Bush:
"I think that until he becomes a starting Q.B. who can lead a team to a winning season then anything he has to say is irrelevant. So in other words what he has to say doesn't mean diddley pooh."
I replied.
Try to keep up.

[HOU-TEX]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...
However, I did like the post from one of the asst coaches sbout 2 things that happen when Carr goes back to pass and neither is good--I'd post it but-then-I know how everyone in the Carr family knows everything and would find some smartas- statement to make, so use your own search engine...and wait till you hear the scuttle butt...

I couldn't find it on google.
Can you give us the link? Pretty please?
I'm dying to see how the coach has worded it. I'm sure it's the same "But we can fix that..." answer that we heard a year ago from Kubiak, and several years ago from Chris Palmer who had him throwing over 12-foot ladders in practice.
David's always "almost there," isn't he? LOL.
It's a tragic comedy.



Are you still waiting for your link from tsip?

Are you still waiting for David Carr to majically appear in you and Caddys bedroom. Don't let Nordic and Baccurat get too jealous.


Is that all you've got? "Majic" and "you bedroom?" Lol... I'm not jealous. I've got an education.

Are you sure it's an education and not an infatuation? Either way, I'm done with Carr stalkers. C-ya

[Footballz]

Footballz(guess you can't use a dictionary, or does your handle mean something?).what's up with the Panthers not talking about Carr--heck, Caddy has more posts about David than most Panther fans...
However, I did like the post from one of the asst coaches sbout 2 things that happen when Carr goes back to pass and neither is good--I'd post it but-then-I know how everyone in the Carr family knows everything and would find some smartas- statement to make, so use your own search engine...and wait till you hear the scuttle butt...

I couldn't find it on google.
Can you give us the link? Pretty please?
I'm dying to see how the coach has worded it. I'm sure it's the same "But we can fix that..." answer that we heard a year ago from Kubiak, and several years ago from Chris Palmer who had him throwing over 12-foot ladders in practice.
David's always "almost there," isn't he? LOL.
It's a tragic comedy.



Are you still waiting for your link from tsip?

Are you still waiting for David Carr to majically appear in you and Caddys bedroom. Don't let Nordic and Baccurat get too jealous.


Is that all you've got? "Majic" and "you bedroom?" Lol... I'm not jealous. I've got an education.

Are you sure it's an education and not an infatuation? Either way, I'm done with Carr stalkers. C-ya


Yes, I'm sure. I have a Masters.
Infatuation? Lol... it's you who mentioned the menage-a-trios. [;)]

Yes, you most certainly are done. [:S]

[Footballz]

Just like Shaub. [;)]


True,but Schaub IS a starting Q.B. who took Carr's job and he is not talking smack about the Falcons.


Yes, it's very true. Shaub has not started one game for the Texans and has never led anyone to anything. Shaub took nothing. He was handed the job, just like Carr.

Whether he took it or it was given to him, he's here and Carr isn't, and he's not running his mouth and making excuses like Davey boy is. I actually give him props(so far) for the way he has come in and let everybody know he is ready to lead this team. I just hope it sticks.


I hope so too.

[ib4texans]

Just like Shaub. [;)]


True,but Schaub IS a starting Q.B. who took Carr's job and he is not talking smack about the Falcons.


Yes, it's very true. Shaub has not started one game for the Texans and has never led anyone to anything. Shaub took nothing. He was handed the job, just like Carr.

Whether he took it or it was given to him, he's here and Carr isn't, and he's not running his mouth and making excuses like Davey boy is. I actually give him props(so far) for the way he has come in and let everybody know he is ready to lead this team. I just hope it sticks.

I was just curiouse what it would be that Schaub could run his mouth about or make excuses for? He hasn't played the equivilant of half of a season as starter. What the hell is he going to say "they didn't surround me with enough talent on the second string".
Now I will embrace Matt Schaub as our starting QB, I hope like hell our running game explodes this year. I will not listen to anybody trying to find any equivilance between Carr's experience and Schaub's. Carr was cut, Schaub was traded.
Go TEXANS!!!

[Footballz]

Just like Shaub. [;)]


True,but Schaub IS a starting Q.B. who took Carr's job and he is not talking smack about the Falcons.


Yes, it's very true. Shaub has not started one game for the Texans and has never led anyone to anything. Shaub took nothing. He was handed the job, just like Carr.

Whether he took it or it was given to him, he's here and Carr isn't, and he's not running his mouth and making excuses like Davey boy is. I actually give him props(so far) for the way he has come in and let everybody know he is ready to lead this team. I just hope it sticks.

I was just curiouse what it would be that Schaub could run his mouth about or make excuses for? He hasn't played the equivilant of half of a season as starter. What the hell is he going to say "they didn't surround me with enough talent on the second string".
Now I will embrace Matt Schaub as our starting QB, I hope like hell our running game explodes this year. I will not listen to anybody trying to find any equivilance between Carr's experience and Schaub's. Carr was cut, Schaub was traded.
Go TEXANS!!!


Carr was drafted #1. Shaub wasn't.

Let's hope our running game explodes. We going to need it if the O-line can't stop anybody.