Fred Bennett

[johndoe]

Do yall think this guy is the real deal??? I have been impressed with him thus far… if he continues to play like he is do yall (assuming dunta is back next year) think that we can scratch the need for signing or drafting a corner? I love this guys demeanor and hope he will continue to show that he deserves to be a starting CB in the NFL. Here is to Fred getting a couple of pics tomorrow as we kick some browns around. Go Texans!!!!!!

[HJam72]

He's better than Faggins, and he's got some heart. Right now, I wouldn't assume that he could be part of a great starting secondary, but he could be part of a good one I think.

[leaguecitytexan]

For a rookie I like what he has done so far. Daunte was mentoring him and I sure wish Daunte wouldn't have gotten hurt and kept it going toward the end of the season. He is going to have some growing pains as a rookie, but we really don't have a choice we have to throw him to the wolves. He is going to get tested this weekend. I like his physical play. We are still going to have to draft or go to free agency at cornerback next year. Daunte's injury was really bad, I am not sure he will ever be a starting corner in the same sense as he was in the past. I think he will end up playing strong or full safety for us and great one he would be. Go Texans.

[johndoe]

if dunta can come back next year and be affective (which i really believe he will) we will only lack a good FS from having a legit secondary imo

[foozball]

dunta will most likely be gone for most of next year. he suffered a major knee injury along with a major hamstring injury.

anyways, bennett has always had good cover skills. his ball skills seem to have developed to where he can make plays on the ball. that was always a knock on him in college. his run support has always been questioned as well, but he seems to be doing well in that department. at least he's no phil buchannon.

[johndoe]

dunta will most likely be gone for most of next year. he suffered a major knee injury along with a major hamstring injury.

anyways, bennett has always had good cover skills. his ball skills seem to have developed to where he can make plays on the ball. that was always a knock on him in college. his run support has always been questioned as well, but he seems to be doing well in that department. at least he's no phil buchannon.

the recovery time for a torn acl is usually six months. the doctors said that dunta's injury is gonna take 9 months to heal which will be at the start of training camp...if anyone can recover from that injury its dunta...i think he'll be starting at cb for us sometime next year if not from the begining

[shadow]

we still need to draft some CBs, more depth would be nice ^_^

[leaguecitytexan]

I sure hope Daunte can come back as a DB, I was listening to some ex-nfl players, cannot remember their names, talking about that type of injury and one ex-player was talking about a teammate that sustained that type of injury. The problem is it tore the acl from the bone (ouch) He said the player got back to his straight up and down the field speed, but lost alot in the side to side speed (cutting sideways) which CB's need. I will pray for Daunte to come back healthy. If he is 3/4's the player he was he will be an asset. I still think he will move to a saftey position. Go Texans beat the dawgs.

[LORK 88]

It just kills me seeing how many different ways people spell Dunta's name, but Bennett can be our #2 CB of the future if he keeps playing like this. He's been very physical against the run and always seems to make clean breaks to the ball. However, these upcoming games will be huge because he's basically our #1 CB now. Dunta will still be around to offer advice and mentor him, but he's by himself now on the field.

[foozball]

look at donovan mcnabb. he tore his ACL, and he did come back, but you could tell his knee was not 100%. im sure dunta can come back sometime next year, but its not gonna be 100%. it's going to take a full 12 months for that injury to fully heal if not more.

typically, ACL tears are 8-12 month injuries, so that should give you a clue on how long it will take for Dunta to heal up and rehab. id expect him to miss at least the first 4 games of next year.

luckily dunta is only 180lbs and doesnt have as much pressure on that knee that most NFL players have.

[Zac Attack]

I read that he was going to out for an entire year. That puts him coming back at about this time next season. When there are but 6 or so games left.

I sure as heck would like it if he could come back by training camp.


But don't get over anxious, Spencer was supposed to come back per all of the reports by training camp. Then it was by the end of training camp. Then it was after 6 games. Then they decided he isn't coming back at all this season; at least that was what I was thinking.


Serious career ending injuries take a while to recover from.



And Robinson's particular injury wasn't just 1, it was 2 seperate career threatening injuries. What a major bummer.

[leaguecitytexan]

my apologies to Dunta and board members for mispelling his name. It just blows me away how texans injure texans aka Ron Dayne running over Spencer. any word on if he will be back at training camp a 100% next year that would be one less pick we would have to use on the O-line.

[johndoe]

If I remember correctly the doctor said nine months….I assumed that was nine months until he was ready to play. Is that incorrect???

[truckin texan]

Yea he will need more time b/c of the position he plays a lot of torque he puts on those muscles when he is stopping and cutting and twisting according to gil brant and pat kirwan on sirius nfl radio this injury has caused a lot of db's to retire they both think somewhere between 12-18 months to be fully recovered based on the info that has been released

[truckin texan]

Yea he will need more time b/c of the position he plays a lot of torque he puts on those muscles when he is stopping and cutting and twisting according to gil brant and pat kirwan on sirius nfl radio this injury has caused a lot of db's to retire they both think somewhere between 12-18 months to be fully recovered

[Welsh Texan]

I like the idea of looking at taking a Corner and a Free Safety eother in FA or on the first day, Then of course you have both positions covered even if Dunta doesn't come back next year, then, when he does, you have all the options open to you on where to place him based on whats best for Dunta and whats best for the team, and you aren't relying on and pressuring him to be rushing his body back to fitness.

[foozball]

I like the idea of looking at taking a Corner and a Free Safety eother in FA or on the first day, Then of course you have both positions covered even if Dunta doesn't come back next year, then, when he does, you have all the options open to you on where to place him based on whats best for Dunta and whats best for the team, and you aren't relying on and pressuring him to be rushing his body back to fitness.

Reggie Smith can play CB and FS...that would solve alot of problems. He can stick at CB when Dunta is out and move over to FS if/when he comes back. I think with Smith and Bennett at CB, we can get by with Hutchins and Demps at FS.

[TheLBCoach]

Reggie Smith can play CB and FS...that would solve alot of problems. He can stick at CB when Dunta is out and move over to FS if/when he comes back. I think with Smith and Bennett at CB, we can get by with Hutchins and Demps at FS.

Getting by isn't good enough. To become the dominant team we always talk about becoming, we're going to have to upgrade from our current roster with 'getting by' players on it.

[Welsh Texan]

I don't agree, I think if we can make a 'get by' signing that gives us flexibility and can also be an improvement at another position when Dunta does come back, that is the best way forward, imho.

[South Texan]

I really hate to say it, but I don't think we can count on Dunta back at 100% before mid season next year, if we are lucky. He not only has to heal from both injuries, he has to rehab to try to get to 100%. Even with Rick Smith's talent at finding players I think we will have to drop some serious $$$ in FA to find an experienced corner. With the other 5 DBs on IR hopefully we come up with some good safties next year.
Back to Bennett... the kid seems to be showing some serious potential as being a very solid corner. I'm not saying he won't get burned a few times with rookie mistakes but we could be a lot worse off, especially considering he was a third round choice.

[ObsiWan]

Man, there will be a logjam at DB when training camp begins. We have the guys playing now: Demps, Bennett, Boulware, Hutchins, special teamer Dexter Wynn, nickelback Jamar Fletcher, & C.C.Brown plus the guys we'll get back from IR, Dunta (maybe not till game 5-6), Glenn Earl, Jason Simmons, Brandon Harrison (the Stanford rookie), this Curome Cox guy who they just signed (Denver-ex), and this guy Roc Alexander (who I've yet to see take a snap but has been on the roster for two years). That's 13 and I think I left someone off the list.

I'd like to see them bring in a couple of promising youngsters at OL and RB... and maybe OLB. No need to bring in another DB unless he's really a stud.

Anyone still think we need to go after Asante Samuels??

[foozball]

Getting by isn't good enough. To become the dominant team we always talk about becoming, we're going to have to upgrade from our current roster with 'getting by' players on it.

youre not looking at the whole picture. we arent going to win the superbowl next year. but if we take Smith, he gives us a talented DB to play opposite Fred for next year, and when Dunta does come back, he gives us a talented safety to take over for Hutchins/Demps. in the long run, it would be a good move...a better move than signing an expensive CB, only to find out that Dunta will come back healthy and now we're stuck with Dunta, FA, and Bennett all squabbling for playing time and wasting cap space. not that having talented corners is a bad thing, but signing an expensive guy when we've got viable options is what can kill teams as far as the cap goes because we can fill other big holes on the team with that money.

[ObsiWan]

youre not looking at the whole picture. we arent going to win the superbowl next year. but if we take Smith, he gives us a talented DB to play opposite Fred for next year, and when Dunta does come back, he gives us a talented safety to take over for Hutchins/Demps. in the long run, it would be a good move...a better move than signing an expensive CB, only to find out that Dunta will come back healthy and now we're stuck with Dunta, FA, and Bennett all squabbling for playing time and wasting cap space. not that having talented corners is a bad thing, but signing an expensive guy when we've got viable options is what can kill teams as far as the cap goes because we can fill other big holes on the team with that money.

who is FA???

[Welsh Texan]

I took it to mean A 'Free Agent' ???

I think foozball has it spot on, the teams main needs seem to boil down to a viable but not necessarily stud Corner, ditto with a OLT, a Stud Running Back, and an improvement at free safety. If we can do all that and carry a nice amount of cap room over to the season after, then we can really look at what we've got and what we need.

I think it would be a crime to go out and tie up all that cap room we have this off season, all these injuries mean that we don't really know where we stand, we MIGHT have a stud LT already on our books, we MIGHT have 2 top notch Corners on our books, if Dunta comes back at 100% and Bennett lives up to his early promise, we aren't 100% sure of what we have at Safety bearing in mind how they all seemed to go down early on.

I believe you need to go conservative therefore this off season, bring in guys who can contribute if needed but won't kill our cap space for years to come if we do land on our feet with all these injuries, then, you can improve the team again next year, re-evaluate the position for the year after, and spend the real money more wisely and with more information guiding the decisions the year after.

It is an evolutionary process building a great NFL team, we are currently blessed with plenty of cap space so why not bide our time and say, 'yep we're at 5-5 this year with a shot at the playoffs, if we improve a little this off season without spending big bucks we could be 6-4 this time next year with players coming back from injury, then we can go for the serious SB challenge the year after and make it stick, and not be a flash in the pan, but slowly build a top team that we can sustain for years to come'.

[ObsiWan]

Oh.
:o

[HomeGrownTexan]

I'm not counting Dunta out.........if anybody can come back from that type of injury he can.......that guy has the biggest heart on the entire team outside of Andre.

Having said that, when he comes back next year, it's going to take another year for him to reach "pre injury" form......usually players bounce back during their second year from a ACL tear, but a 80% Dunta is still better than most CBs in this league.

[foozball]

I took it to mean A 'Free Agent' ???

I think foozball has it spot on, the teams main needs seem to boil down to a viable but not necessarily stud Corner, ditto with a OLT, a Stud Running Back, and an improvement at free safety. If we can do all that and carry a nice amount of cap room over to the season after, then we can really look at what we've got and what we need.

I think it would be a crime to go out and tie up all that cap room we have this off season, all these injuries mean that we don't really know where we stand, we MIGHT have a stud LT already on our books, we MIGHT have 2 top notch Corners on our books, if Dunta comes back at 100% and Bennett lives up to his early promise, we aren't 100% sure of what we have at Safety bearing in mind how they all seemed to go down early on.

I believe you need to go conservative therefore this off season, bring in guys who can contribute if needed but won't kill our cap space for years to come if we do land on our feet with all these injuries, then, you can improve the team again next year, re-evaluate the position for the year after, and spend the real money more wisely and with more information guiding the decisions the year after.

It is an evolutionary process building a great NFL team, we are currently blessed with plenty of cap space so why not bide our time and say, 'yep we're at 5-5 this year with a shot at the playoffs, if we improve a little this off season without spending big bucks we could be 6-4 this time next year with players coming back from injury, then we can go for the serious SB challenge the year after and make it stick, and not be a flash in the pan, but slowly build a top team that we can sustain for years to come'.

you pretty much summed it up right there. you dont see too many teams that go to the very top in 1 year. we're still building our team. plus, safety is a relatively easy position to fill, so we can actually focus on another area of need, and then when our team is almost complete and all we need is a stud safety, we can draft one down the road and stick him in right away and not have to wait for him to develop.

other places we can focus on? RB and LT are the big ones on offense. Not to mention Center. we have to improve our pass rush as well.

[Welsh Texan]

I can hear the groans now but if you keep Mario in the 2.0 point stance you could draft a Pass Rush oriented RE. I know I know, I'm only saying it :D

That said though I actually believe that this is another area where we should wait and find out what we've got, We aren't really sure what type of player Mario is going to be yet, we've all seen enough to not doubt that he'll be good, its just where he fits in on the line or does he not put his hand down? TJ has improved a lot this season and I think there is plenty more to come from him, Amobi will develop as time goes by, and so I reckon we should stick with it pretty much next season. I think we know this team is moving towards Power D at some point in the future, not that that Schaub-AJ combo won't move the chains on the other side of the ball but we also have Greenwood taking up a massive cap hit compared to his productivity and maybe we should look to move him on before we tie any more money up in that area of the field, especially as things seem to be moving forward nicely.

I'd definately go RB, CB, FS this year and then spend big the year after.

[Battle-Red]

Some points on Dunta's injuries (or whats been stated by the Texans/media/doctors), neither are really "career threatening" while possible it's not very probable. A torn ACL rated at a 2.50-2.75 (on the scale 1-3) and a torn hamstring(off the bone NOT the ACL). The absolute worst case scenario he starts the year on the pup list and we get him in week7, best case hes limited at the start of training camp. 9 months is the time that was stated for recovery and rehab(surgery to the start of training camp is 10.5months), but that does not account for profootball shape.(And what we know) ACL reconstruction has become a common procedure with good rehibilitation 90-95% of individuals return to sports participation after 6months and fully within a year(though when speaking of nfl players it seems to take 12-18months to really be 100% mentally and physically). More than 90% of athletes return 100% to form.

[TexansMVP]

Hope he has a big game for us today.

[misterpc]

Big INT from Fred. Whats the status on his injury?

[Line_Producer]

Hope he has a big game for us today.

interception already. Go Freddie!

[HydrOshocK]

Bennett played well today against the Browns. He was in on a number of key tackles and had an INT. This guy continues to get better every week.

[wildroot]

Before it's all said and done, this guys going to be a "keeper"

[GT]

Before it's all said and done, this guys going to be a "keeper"If Duanta would have stayed healthy, we would have a good to great combo in the secondary. Lets hope Duanta comes back as old self. Just to watch them smack people would be worth the price of admission.:)

[wildroot]

If Duanta would have stayed healthy, we would have a good to great combo in the secondary. Lets hope Duanta comes back as old self. Just to watch them smack people would be worth the price of admission.:)

Trouble is is that it took Dunta getting hurt to get Fred some playing time. The D is going to go thru (to a lesser degree) what the O went thru the first part of the year. We're going to see some backups forced into action and this will benifit us in the future. Some of these guys (Bennet)are going to see this as an opportunity and make the most of it.

[GT]

Trouble is is that it took Dunta getting hurt to get Fred some playing time. The D is going to go thru (to a lesser degree) what the O went thru the first part of the year. We're going to see some backups forced into action and this will benifit us in the future. Some of these guys (Bennet)are going to see this as an opportunity and make the most of it.If I am not mistaken they were starting to work Bennett in before Duanta got hurt. Bennett pulled a hamstring earlier in the season that sidelined him for awhile.

[wildroot]

If I am not mistaken they were starting to work Bennett in before Duanta got hurt. Bennett pulled a hamstring earlier in the season that sidelined him for awhile.

My point being that these are opportunities that the smart ones will capitalize on.

[HydrOshocK]

Trouble is is that it took Dunta getting hurt to get Fred some playing time. The D is going to go thru (to a lesser degree) what the O went thru the first part of the year. We're going to see some backups forced into action and this will benifit us in the future. Some of these guys (Bennet)are going to see this as an opportunity and make the most of it.

It's all part of the growing process. You can't have quality depth until the young guys are tested and proven IMO.

[El Tejano]

You draft another corner because even if Dunta comes back, you run the risk of him getting injured again. Can't put all your eggs in one basket. This team has done that too many times and it has hurt us so much.

[outofhnd]

I wouldnt mind a corner who could be converted to FS, or maybe put Dunta at FS? or Maybe Bennett at FS?

I just feel empowered because when the season started I picked Fred Bennett to be the rookie to have the most impact. How right I was! He is now the anchor in our defensive backfield.

[Battle-Red]

I wouldnt mind a corner who could be converted to FS, or maybe put Dunta at FS? or Maybe Bennett at FS?

I just feel empowered because when the season started I picked Fred Bennett to be the rookie to have the most impact. How right I was! He is now the anchor in our defensive backfield.
You forgot the evil laugh to go with the empowering feeling and the knowledge of being right.

[outofhnd]

You forgot the evil laugh to go with the empowering feeling and the knowledge of being right.
I cant do that because then my girlfriend will get on here and type out all my shortcomings, I must cherish the message board for it is one internet site she must never go.:D

[westtexastexan]

I think bennett has played well as a starter. He likes to put a hit on the ball carrier too, not afraid to put his hat on the runner.

I like him as a db, and think he has earned a starting position with his play.

[TEXANottoMAN]

You forgot the evil laugh to go with the empowering feeling and the knowledge of being right.

http://www.dolcevitapets.com/blog/upload/2007/08/flying_laser_dogs/DrEvil%20_orig.JPG

For 1 m1llion dollars

[GT]

I cant do that because then my girlfriend will get on here and type out all my shortcomings, I must cherish the message board for it is one internet site she must never go.:DI can definitly relate.;)

[GT]

Me too. I keep this from my wife. this board is "my precious!":cool:LMAO If mine finds this site, I would be so screwed. I just tell her I'm talking to my mistress.;)

[GT]

HaHa like on the jack in the box commercials? "You liar! You've been on the Texans Message board again!"
"No baby, I was sending a message to my mistress.":D:D:D:D

[GT]

Gotta type very very quietly she's in the room.

[GT]

Mine is asleep. I'm about to watch the Rockets re-play.**** how did you pull that off?

[GT]

Battle Red Kool-Aid...err I mean White Zinfandel!:D You know she will be due for a wake up call here in a lil' bit!:cool:
Ah I see, so there is another way to get them to go to sleep.Guess I better put the hammer up.:D

[GT]

Poster police are going to arrest us for not sticking to the thread. And you know what that means, we won't be able to hang out with mr. pc

[GT]

hey it's late and there aren't that many on so I don't see any sirens going off tonight. I posted in the Browns game thread b/c I see QB Attack is lurking. Other fans can say what they want, they love themselves some Texans fans.He's been hanging around all nite.Keep waiting for the gloat.:p

[Doug]

You guys are cracking me up! I may have even snorted. It's like the two kids in the back of the classroom whispering trying say as much as they can before the teacher catches them. LOL!

[outofhnd]

You don't want your girlfriend to come in here thats like Manliness Kryptonite.

You can be in here typing about football and be cool, but you don't need to know last night when I am not in here talking about football i was subdued with guilt and other means of persuasion to suffer through the movie Chocolat. All I could say was wow that was a great movie, and hope she couldn't see through that statement.

[GT]

You don't want your girlfriend to come in here thats like Manliness Kryptonite.

You can be in here typing about football and be cool, but you don't need to know last night when I am not in here talking about football i was subdued with guilt and other means of persuasion to suffer through the movie Chocolat. All I could say was wow that was a great movie, and hope she couldn't see through that statement.Geeezzz I really feel for you dude, :(but then again better you than me.:D

[HydrOshocK]

You don't want your girlfriend to come in here thats like Manliness Kryptonite.

You can be in here typing about football and be cool, but you don't need to know last night when I am not in here talking about football i was subdued with guilt and other means of persuasion to suffer through the movie Chocolat. All I could say was wow that was a great movie, and hope she couldn't see through that statement.

oooh man that's not good. I cringe every time my wife says "hey let's watch a movie" because she always picks the ones that don't have car chases, explosions, or meaningless T&A. There's only so many Hugh Grant or Matthew Mcconaughey love stories a man can stand ;)

[Doug]

oooh man that's not good. I cringe every time my wife says "hey let's watch a movie" because she always picks the ones that don't have car chases, explosions, or meaningless T&A. There's only so many Hugh Grant or Matthew Mcconaughey love stories a man can stand ;)

Here Here!

[outofhnd]

oooh man that's not good. I cringe every time my wife says "hey let's watch a movie" because she always picks the ones that don't have car chases, explosions, or meaningless T&A. There's only so many Hugh Grant or Matthew Mcconaughey love stories a man can stand ;)
Ever get stuck watching knotting hill? Or as I called it Knodding off.

[willieg52]

I thought this was a football thread? Hwo talking about football and someones wife mixes is beyond my understanding.

[TEXANottoMAN]

I thought this was a football thread? Hwo talking about football and someones wife mixes is beyond my understanding.

LOL - Things happen. I'm sure conversation will get back to Bennett. If not, the thread will get sucked down to oblivion.

[outofhnd]

That sounds like my relationship sucked down to oblivion.

Bennett is becoming a solid corner before our eyes, They really didnt throw his way at all last week except for the interception.

However he needs to stop with the cartoon temper tantrum session every game.

[El Tejano]

So Bennett, in his two starts, has two INTs? Um...sounds like we found another CB.

[HydrOshocK]

9 games: 28 tackles 23 solo 5 assists 7 pass defs 2 INTs

not too shabby

[outofhnd]

Faggins had INTs and one returned for a TD early in his career and look how he turned out.:p

The guy is stepping up but everyone wants to pick on Hutchins.

[Rosstafarian]

if dunta can come back next year and be affective (which i really believe he will) we will only lack a good FS from having a legit secondary imo

Will Demps is a good Free Safety that we should keep.

[outofhnd]

Yes but Drafting Kenny Phillips would give us that playmaking safety we so desperately need for over the top help.

[sleepwalker]

I really like Bennett. Him and Dante would be a great pair of corners for this organization if we ever even see Dante again.

Bennett stepped up for us.

[outofhnd]

If hes lost a step he will become our FS.

[Clamp]

If hes lost a step he will become our FS.

i have heard this said alot and ive said it should happen, but what are the odds the coaches are gonna see it that way? does this happen often?

i figure they are going to try and put him back at corner no matter what, and then we will see what happens from there.

[outofhnd]

it happend in 04 With Marcus Coleman, Troy Vincent, Merton Hanks, couple other guys, mainly because of Duntas tackling ability that makes it viable most corners are not the best tacklers. With Dunta he is one of our best. he takes great angles and I think he would relish playing deep middle and over the top. but if he comes back at 100 i want him taking away a WR.

Also Where in the world is Jamar Fletcher?