Schaub

[vonbock]

Wow, this is Kubiak's personal choice for Texans quaterback of the future who will bring new horizons to the Texans. I see David Carr all over again. Throw a ton of interceptions, get sacked, and underthrow receivers. Hopefully Tebow is comin out and we can draft him.

[outofhnd]

I don't see another Carr, but I don't see a franchise QB either.

[Newfan2006]

Look at this team rally, Carr? I think not!

[Clamp]

i know im gonna get bashed for making excuses and singing the same old song, but here i go anyway b/c its true.

This is his first year as a starting QB. he had i think 2 starts before thi season. he has done very well for the most part with not the best protection possible. He will only get better with experience. i have faith in schaub and our team. even if they dont come back and win this game i am pleased with the season so far and look forward to even more next year (WITH SCHAUB LEADING THE WAY!).

[Bulls-Eye]

Mostly it's bad play calling by Kibuak. Texans needs another head coach.

[outofhnd]

He will get better butI don't see that put a team on his back and drive them. That is not something he can develop. It's just you have it or you don't. Schaub just doesn't have that intangible quality maybe he has it in golf but not on the football field.

[vonbock]

That could be the answer too. It his picks that we wasted. Mario Williams, Matt Schaub. Bring in Wade Pillips or the Offensive Coordinator for Dallas.
Hey we also need the camera crew for the New England PAtriots. That'll bring us 3-4 Super Bowls.

[TexasToro]

Wow, this is Kubiak's personal choice for Texans quaterback of the future who will bring new horizons to the Texans. I see David Carr all over again. Throw a ton of interceptions, get sacked, and underthrow receivers. Hopefully Tebow is comin out and we can draft him.

Tebow is a true Sophomore. He will not be available this year.

[vonbock]

Really? I thought a college football player can leave after the sophmore year?

[BIG ERN]

Wow, this is Kubiak's personal choice for Texans quaterback of the future who will bring new horizons to the Texans. I see David Carr all over again. Throw a ton of interceptions, get sacked, and underthrow receivers. Hopefully Tebow is comin out and we can draft him.

Where are these trolls coming from?????????

[outofhnd]

Really? I thought a college football player can leave after the sophmore year?

Yea but he isn't coming out this year. He wants a national title he'll be there another year atleast. Besides we need DBs in a really bad way.

[vonbock]

Well, the game ends on a typical note. The Texans miss a tackle again and the runner gets a first down. I knew we should have traded up in the last draft to get Adrian Peterson rather than wasting another 1st round pick on a defensive line. We still got an awful defense.

[SuperstarII]

I just have to say in Schaub's defense is that Manning was 3-13 in his first year at QB. So I say he is doing a whole lot better than Manning for a first season at the helm. However Schaub is no Tony Romo......

you have to have a good offensive line!

[outofhnd]

Our offensive line held the pocket more than its share, the WR corps didnt work to get open and the QB was not decisive and threw the ball in places he shouldnt have.

[Otisbean]

Scahub will be fine once we add some pieces. No QB can do it alone. GO look at ELways stats when he was starting out, not great. We have got improve the Oline and the running game and this game illustrates why. Cleveland has a superior Oline, RB and TE and it all showed today. When you can run the football you have to bring guys up to the line to help out and this opens the passing game for big plays. I think the Texans are doing it right - build the D and the O line then add some playmakers, build from the inside out. I jusst hope we can hold on to the frigging football. TOs are what is keeping us down this year (not to mention having 14 guys out with injury).

[outofhnd]

One of those players our assumed LT of the future. We just have way to many holes to fill to be competitive next year. I just get so sick of everytime we play the browns we play very lax and uninspired football especially on offense.

[spalacios3]

We Are The Best . We Are Going All The Way .:d

[sleepwalker]

The browns outplayed us. We turned the ball over at a critical time. Nothing new really.

What a waste Ahman Green was, the one game we needed him to stay alive he decides to stay up late last night and play xbox.

[wildroot]

That could be the answer too. It his picks that we wasted. Mario Williams, Matt Schaub. Bring in Wade Pillips or the Offensive Coordinator for Dallas.
Hey we also need the camera crew for the New England PAtriots. That'll bring us 3-4 Super Bowls.

Why would Wade Phillips want to come here? He's coaching his team to the promised land as we speak.

[DeclanJr]

Tebow is a bum. Schaub can play well if he gets protection. Today it seemed like no one was getting open. Is that his fault? Owen Daniels probably cost the Texans the game with that fumble. He underthrew Johnson on one of his picks, but other than that I think he played well. Would you rather have David Carr?

[outofhnd]

Tebow is a bum. Schaub can play well if he gets protection. Today it seemed like no one was getting open. Is that his fault? Owen Daniels probably cost the Texans the game with that fumble. He underthrew Johnson on one of his picks, but other than that I think he played well. Would you rather have David Carr?

Well we would atleast have Blalock and a 2nd rounder this year with Carr. Other than that there is no real upside.

[Footballz]

Tebow is a bum. Schaub can play well if he gets protection.


LMAO! :D Tebow is good. I thought the O-line was fine?????

[DeclanJr]

LMAO! :D Tebow is good. I thought the O-line was fine?????

Let's see how Tebow does in the NFL. The O-Line gave up two sacks. They played a pretty good game against the worst defense in the NFL, but in general they are weak.

[GT]

LMAO! :D Tebow is good. I thought the O-line was fine?????Geeezzz people they smothered our recievers for the better part of the game, just give them their due.:(

[Footballz]

Let's see how Tebow does in the NFL. The O-Line gave up two sacks. They played a pretty good game against the worst defense in the NFL, but in general they are weak.


IMO, Tebow will do fine in the NFL.

So will Shaub. This is his first year as a starter.

[Clubroach]

Sage































Rosenfels :rolleyes:

[headsplint]

Sage































Rosenfels :rolleyes:


is a decent backup.

[trutexan02]

Wow, this is Kubiak's personal choice for Texans quaterback of the future who will bring new horizons to the Texans. I see David Carr all over again. Throw a ton of interceptions, get sacked, and underthrow receivers. Hopefully Tebow is comin out and we can draft him.

What you see is another loss. You definitely don't see another Carr. Carr couldn't throw for 250 on many of his BEST days. This was a down day for Schuab. Don't tread these waters, if you do you only show how little you know about the game of football and our team.
TEBOW is a college wonder. He'll won't much, if ever, time in the NFL. Write that down. He's poular pcik at best. In my mind, a wasted pick.

Let's think about a few QB that were so poular picks outta Florida shall we? Leak, Grossman, Wuerfal, now Tebow. I see a trend there.

[outofhnd]

Let's see how Tebow does in the NFL. The O-Line gave up two sacks. They played a pretty good game against the worst defense in the NFL, but in general they are weak.

One sack technically Schaub held the ball too long on the sack by peek.

[DeclanJr]

One sack technically Schaub held the ball too long on the sack by peek.

Yeah, it seemed like our guys weren't getting open or Schaub was holding onto the ball too long. Personally, I have suffered through enough years with Carr. Now I know what a real quarterback should be able to do. I think most fans expect too much out of Schaub in his first year as a starter. He has played well and helped this team win some games. I'm fine with where we are at. If the Texans go 8-8 this year, they have exceeded my expectations.

[Meco'stime]

this is ridiculous. one bad game and the carr comparisons are back.. he is way better than carr, why be constantly negative.

[Meco'stime]

i'll take an 8-8 year considering all the injuries this year

[dcallen123]

compare Shaubs stats to the browns, except for 1 inter. they are almost exactly the same. And 1 of those inter. was a fluke

[texan3742]

Really? I thought a college football player can leave after the sophmore year?

He has to be in college for 3 years... that might include a redshirt season.

[wildroot]

Tebow is a true Sophomore. He will not be available this year.

Draft Tebow and then spend 3 or 4 years grooming him?

Schaub's not the problem. Today it was the recievers not getting open, sorry tackling and no pass rush.
Coaching has been uninspiring as well.
Mistakes have got to go away. It's not good enough for players to keep taking the blame for having bad games. Every week it's someone else. That's gotta stop. Players need to put up or step back. I'm starting to wonder if these players are getting coached properly 'cause the same mistakes keep happening. Mario should be living in the backfield, and if he's not, it's up to the coached to make the proper adjustments to get him there. Don't know if they know how to do that though. That's worrisome.

[Texicano]

Wow, this is Kubiak's personal choice for Texans quaterback of the future who will bring new horizons to the Texans. I see David Carr all over again. Throw a ton of interceptions, get sacked, and underthrow receivers. Hopefully Tebow is comin out and we can draft him.

Yeah man I think you hit the nail on the head with this post. I don't know what the problem is, but our scouting decisions are terrible. We can't pick good players to save our lives. That's why we are sitting at 5-6 right now. ;)

[Mailman]

Some of you people are unfrigginbelievable. The Texans have the NFL's sixth-ranked pass offense, most of which came without the team's best offensive weapon and its #1 RB, nor its starting C, and you fools think Matt Schaub is junk?

God just go away. You're complete tools.

[wildroot]

Some of you people are unfrigginbelievable. The Texans have the NFL's sixth-ranked pass offense, most of which came without the team's best offensive weapon and its #1 RB, nor its starting C, and you fools think Matt Schaub is junk?

God just go away. You're complete tools.

I never said that...

[Jay-El The BMTexan]

Dude.........................




Get off Matt, what we need to be wondering is why...O..why aren't they putting a change of pace back in the game, I'm not going to bash Dayne cuz he is plaing hard ....but ..... Dude .............WTF?

[leaguecitytexan]

Take it easy. Schaub had a very inaccurate and bad day today and I am as pissed as anyone. Did anyone else see the Carolina/Saints game today and watch our ex-quarterback. (34-6 Saints) I am as disappointed as anyone. We cannot continue to turn the ball over 3 times in a game and win much less on the road. I really hope that Sherman gets that A&M job because unlike most fans I know that he is calling the offense plays not Kubiak. Anyway it doen't matter, until we get the right personnel we can not run the Denver Offense anyway. We flat out got out played by the Browns today hands down. We started off great and the defense played great and then came the half time adjustments. We got beat by the better team today, but we can redeem ourselves next year when they come to Reliant. Don't lose faith did anyone see the Titans today.

[wildroot]

I'm not so sure it was a case of Schaub being inacurate as it was the recievers didn't get open. I guess he could have thrown the balls out of bounds when the recievers were covered but as the QB he's trying to make something happen. I really don't put this one on Schaub at all.

[zanth91]

Wow, this is Kubiak's personal choice for Texans quaterback of the future who will bring new horizons to the Texans. I see David Carr all over again. Throw a ton of interceptions, get sacked, and underthrow receivers. Hopefully Tebow is comin out and we can draft him.

Carr had 5 years and you don't even give this CAREER BACKUP 1?

[GT]

Wow, this is Kubiak's personal choice for Texans quaterback of the future who will bring new horizons to the Texans. I see David Carr all over again. Throw a ton of interceptions, get sacked, and underthrow receivers. Hopefully Tebow is comin out and we can draft him.Please post these horrible numbers so I can see if you are right.:rolleyes:

[Nighthawk]

Some of you people are unfrigginbelievable. The Texans have the NFL's sixth-ranked pass offense, most of which came without the team's best offensive weapon

and without Schaub. Lest we forget.

[HydrOshocK]

Mostly it's bad play calling by Kibuak. Texans needs another head coach.

LOL....jeezus are you for real?? :rolleyes:

[HydrOshocK]

The browns outplayed us. We turned the ball over at a critical time. Nothing new really.

What a waste Ahman Green was, the one game we needed him to stay alive he decides to stay up late last night and play xbox.

Didn't you make the same comment about Green in another thread? What does he have to do with Matt Schaub??

[HydrOshocK]

Take it easy. Schaub had a very inaccurate and bad day today and I am as pissed as anyone. Did anyone else see the Carolina/Saints game today and watch our ex-quarterback. (34-6 Saints) I am as disappointed as anyone. We cannot continue to turn the ball over 3 times in a game and win much less on the road. I really hope that Sherman gets that A&M job because unlike most fans I know that he is calling the offense plays not Kubiak. Anyway it doen't matter, until we get the right personnel we can not run the Denver Offense anyway. We flat out got out played by the Browns today hands down. We started off great and the defense played great and then came the half time adjustments. We got beat by the better team today, but we can redeem ourselves next year when they come to Reliant. Don't lose faith did anyone see the Titans today.

22 of 36 is "very inaccurate"? Since when??

The second INT was a poor decision but the first was another tipped ball that hit his receiver right in the hands.....nothing iaccurate about that. And I disagree, we did not flat out get out played by the Browns today. We lost because we turned the ball over too much AGAIN.

As for Schaub. The dude hasn't even started a full year in the pros yet but you guys already know he's destined for failure? Wow.

[1337texansfan]

look,

the sky is falling.

[HydrOshocK]

look,

the sky is falling.

I thought it fell already??.....you know, right before we went on that 2 game win streak to reach 5-5 for the first time in team history.....that stretch where hardly anyone posted anything at all ;)

[1337texansfan]

yeah but it is for real this time..........lol

[ObsiWan]

Yeah, it seemed like our guys weren't getting open or Schaub was holding onto the ball too long. Personally, I have suffered through enough years with Carr. Now I know what a real quarterback should be able to do. I think most fans expect too much out of Schaub in his first year as a starter. He has played well and helped this team win some games. I'm fine with where we are at. If the Texans go 8-8 this year, they have exceeded my expectations.

I'm with you. Building a solid team takes time. Especially coming from where we were. And folks keep conveniently forgetting that Schaub hasn't even had a full year's worth of starts. What's he up to now, ten? in his whole career? If I recall Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning were Oh-fer or maybe one-fer after their first 10 or so starts.

Why? For the same reasons we're struggling: not enough talent at all positions. Face it gang. This year, we're STILL BUILDING. I don't care who you put at QB.

These danged X-box-raised kids have no patience.

I guess I shouldn't complain. At least they aren't still b!+chin that we shouldda drafted VY or RB.

[Whiskeyrbl]

i know im gonna get bashed for making excuses and singing the same old song, but here i go anyway b/c its true.

This is his first year as a starting QB. he had i think 2 starts before thi season. he has done very well for the most part with not the best protection possible. He will only get better with experience. i have faith in schaub and our team. even if they dont come back and win this game i am pleased with the season so far and look forward to even more next year (WITH SCHAUB LEADING THE WAY!).
Agreed he is more or less a rookie QB this year.

[Whiskeyrbl]

I'm with you. Building a solid team takes time. Especially coming from where we were. And folks keep conveniently forgetting that Schaub hasn't even had a full year's worth of starts. What's he up to now, ten? in his whole career? If I recall Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning were Oh-fer or maybe one-fer after their first 10 or so starts.

Why? For the same reasons we're struggling: not enough talent at all positions. Face it gang. This year, we're STILL BUILDING. I don't care who you put at QB.

These danged X-box-raised kids have no patience.

I guess I shouldn't complain. At least they aren't still b!+chin that we shouldda drafted VY or RB.
This is another good point. And if y'all remember before the season Kubes said we were still 1-2 years away from being a legit contender. Patience is needed, I personally would rather wait the 1-2 years and have a legit contender year after year than a flash in the pan 1 year then 5 more years of losing.

[outofhnd]

As has been said of other QBs I havent seen anything about Matt Schaub that really WOW's me. Usually a QB with upside would show a little something. I just havent seen anything that jumps off the page and says wow look at the potential. What I have seen is a player that manages the game effectively, but doesnt have that intangible spark that tells me this team is going down the field on this drive and putting up some points. On a second notr I mainly would like to chalk this loss up to poor game planning. maybe because our Offensive Coordinator was too busy talking to his new boss at Texas A&M? We looked like we were coached to play the worst team in the league throwing underneath and hoping their secondary would miss tackles. :mad:

[El Tejano]

As has been said of other QBs I havent seen anything about Matt Schaub that really WOW's me. Usually a QB with upside would show a little something. I just havent seen anything that jumps off the page and says wow look at the potential. What I have seen is a player that manages the game effectively, but doesnt have that intangible spark that tells me this team is going down the field on this drive and putting up some points. On a second notr I mainly would like to chalk this loss up to poor game planning. maybe because our Offensive Coordinator was too busy talking to his new boss at Texas A&M? We looked like we were coached to play the worst team in the league throwing underneath and hoping their secondary would miss tackles. :mad:

I agree with you on the OC part. I don't necessarily disagree with you on the QB comments but I do feel the need to remind you that the upside of Matt Schaub has been shown.

1. Come from behind victory against Carolina. After being 14 down he throws two TD passes.
2. Even with no Andre Johnson he almost pulls the come from behind on the Colts. We lossed but he showed gunslinger in that game, he even did against Atlanta.

3. The drive for the winning field goal against Miami.

4. The game against the Saints he threw two TDs. That secondary was bad but he still made his presence known.

The upside is there, the losses just indicate he too needs to be consistent like the rest of the team. His ability to look off receivers has put our offense light years ahead of before.

[CTEXANFAN]

I think Matt is a good QB with some more learning to do. He needs to to gain more confidence in his arm which I believe will come with time. One of the things I don't see is chemistry with the team yet not just for Shaub but the Texans as a whole but I think that will happen as we get more wins under our belt. Moving on to next season the Texans really need to draft a stud RB with some speed. No more DB's in the draft we have have some good young talent now we need a veteran or two to help groom them. Demeco may lead the defense right now but they need a veteran.

[caddy]

Sorry, but I can't throw Schaub under the bus for this lost. We win as a team and lose as a team. The Browns improved this year, and we haven't. Our wins have been agains the lower teams. We just didn't show up yesterday and the score didn't even show how bad we got beat.

[Sportswriter79]

I think Matt is a good QB with some more learning to do. He needs to to gain more confidence in his arm which I believe will come with time. One of the things I don't see is chemistry with the team yet not just for Shaub but the Texans as a whole but I think that will happen as we get more wins under our belt. Moving on to next season the Texans really need to draft a stud RB with some speed. No more DB's in the draft we have have some good young talent now we need a veteran or two to help groom them. Demeco may lead the defense right now but they need a veteran.

I think that Matt is a very good QB that has lacked a breakaway RB threat all year (no offense Ron Dayne), and suffered from periodic bad game plans this year - especially yesterday.

Who knows - maybe Mike Sherman's departure will bring a fresh perspective to the offensive game plan?

[Footballz]

I think that Matt is a very good QB that has lacked a breakaway RB threat all year (no offense Ron Dayne), and suffered from periodic bad game plans this year - especially yesterday.

Who knows - maybe Mike Sherman's departure will bring a fresh perspective to the offensive game plan?

We can only hope.

[Wolverine]

Replying to the original poster- if you were mainly referring to the Cleveland game, then yeah he stunk it up, but every QB has a bad game here or there.
I think Schaub IS our QB of the future. I see NO hints of Carr WHATSOEVER in him. Remember too this his first full year as a starting QB in the NFL.
I think the offense is 2 or 3 draft picks/FA signings away from having a top 5 offense in the NFL.

[Towlie]

What if out of no where, mike shanahan gets fired from denver and he expects a OC job here... The ghancha is getting to me...

[LoveThoseTexans]

I think that Schaub had a bad game yesterday, but I am not throwing in the towell. I agree that every QB has a bad game here and there. I think our defensive play calling was awful. We needed to stop playing all the **** zone coverage. And although we didn't win, I don't think we looked that bad.... Maybe I am just biased.....:cool:

[GT]

I think Matt could be the answer. It's his first year of starting and he doesn't have the greatest of O-Lines. Not everyone can be a Big Ben or Romo..Not everyone could have the luck Romo has had. How many times have you seen the football hit a man in the facemask & then bounce into the running backs hand. GeeeZZ we could use a little of that.:)

[misterpc]

Schaub didnt take over like he should have. He has got to find a way to get AJ more involved, I also believe poor playcalling was part of what went wrong with the offense. There is no way the Browns defense should have been able to contain AJ.

[HydrOshocK]

I don't think Schaub had a bad game, just not a very good one. If anyone had a bad game it was AJ. He just didn't look like himself and wasn't getting open very often. He allowed a rookie to show him up and that should never happen. But then again, how many times have we ever been able to say AJ didn't play well?