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michael123
11-27-2007, 09:53 AM
I do not know why you guys who call yourself texan fans want to bash our franchise QB, he is way better than CARR, check it out CARR is doing the same thing he was doing here in houston in carolina he is not a franchise QB,

Schaub is a leader I see that in his eyes he wants to win unlike carr he just wanted to get out of the field asap.

At least Schaub is throwing it DEEP which we never had when Carr was our QB he just threw little slants here and there, and even Carr had a running game when he was here (DOMANICK DAVIS).


owen is also a beast but needs to hold on the the football a little better, i see him being a jeremy shockey type TE, he takes hit like nobody here takes them.

STOP BASHING THEM SERIOUSLY we are going to have a way better record we EVER had in our 5 year of existance.

michael123
11-27-2007, 10:01 AM
and why in the blue hell would we want a rookie QB tell me that, that to whoever wants Tebow, screw that we dont want to be in the rebuild we are almost where we need to be why do we want to downgrade with a rook QB MATT SCHAUB IS OUR QB and you so call fans need to realize he is not going anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

texans83
11-27-2007, 10:06 AM
I feel ya man, Just ignore them. They dont know what the hell they are talking about. Schaub just had a bad game. That will happen time after time. As far as Daniels I think he will be ok, I think this year will prepare him alot for the future. He does need to hold on to the ball but it will be ok. Like I said just ignore the other posters it will save you time and effort trying to argue with them.

SuperstarII
11-27-2007, 10:15 AM
I do not know why you guys who call yourself texan fans want to bash our franchise QB, he is way better than CARR, check it out CARR is doing the same thing he was doing here in houston in carolina he is not a franchise QB,

Schaub is a leader I see that in his eyes he wants to win unlike carr he just wanted to get out of the field asap.

At least Schaub is throwing it DEEP which we never had when Carr was our QB he just threw little slants here and there, and even Carr had a running game when he was here (DOMANICK DAVIS).


owen is also a beast but needs to hold on the the football a little better, i see him being a jeremy shockey type TE, he takes hit like nobody here takes them.

STOP BASHING THEM SERIOUSLY we are going to have a way better record we EVER had in our 5 year of existance.


Just remember 5 years of Carr! Do you guys want him back?

Schaub > Carr

Nuff Said!

outofhnd
11-27-2007, 10:16 AM
I do not know why you guys who call yourself texan fans want to bash our franchise QB, he is way better than CARR, check it out CARR is doing the same thing he was doing here in houston in carolina he is not a franchise QB,

Schaub is a leader I see that in his eyes he wants to win unlike carr he just wanted to get out of the field asap.

At least Schaub is throwing it DEEP which we never had when Carr was our QB he just threw little slants here and there, and even Carr had a running game when he was here (DOMANICK DAVIS).


owen is also a beast but needs to hold on the the football a little better, i see him being a jeremy shockey type TE, he takes hit like nobody here takes them.

STOP BASHING THEM SERIOUSLY we are going to have a way better record we EVER had in our 5 year of existance.

This thread has the feel of that youtube video of the guy crying saying leave britney alone.

To be honest, almost every QB in the NFL is better than David Carr I know Schaub wants to win But I don't see him taking the field and this offense just really start driving. Maybe it is just misreads but On a couple of 3rd and longs when your WR is running a checkdown route, as a QB you should be in his face RB should be the only guys running checkdown routes on 3rd annd long your WR and TE should be at or past the first down marker. I think he should be a little more vocal with his WRs. I just don't get that feeling of here comes a TD from this guy when he takes the field in crunch time.

texans83
11-27-2007, 10:21 AM
This thread has the feel of that youtube video of the guy crying saying leave britney alone.

To be honest, almost every QB in the NFL is better than David Carr I know Schaub wants to win But I don't see him taking the field and this offense just really start driving. Maybe it is just misreads but On a couple of 3rd and longs when your WR is running a checkdown route, as a QB you should be in his face RB should be the only guys running checkdown routes on 3rd annd long your WR and TE should be at or past the first down marker. I think he should be a little more vocal with his WRs. I just don't get that feeling of here comes a TD from this guy when he takes the field in crunch time.

Come on man, its still his first season. Itleast he can read a defence. And who knows maybe he does get in his recievers face just not publically on tv because he has more respect for them then other qbs in the league.

Mr. Old School
11-27-2007, 10:27 AM
Hey folks, our QB and Daniels work well together. We don't need the FL rookie. We still have a problemo with the O-line and now apparently our defensive backs. I said before the season began...if we play .500 ball this season, it'll count as a positive.

Darkninja
11-27-2007, 10:38 AM
Schaub is a far better QB than anyone else in a Texans jersey. He is a very solid QB. If he goes elsewhere, he will have a far better career than he did in Houston. Just everyone else in Houston sports!

outofhnd
11-27-2007, 11:19 AM
Schaub is a far better QB than anyone else in a Texans jersey. He is a very solid QB. If he goes elsewhere, he will have a far better career than he did in Houston. Just everyone else in Houston sports! I never said he wasn't the best we have had I am just saying I don't feel it with this guy. I would say he plays with a backups mentality. He plays well however. Is it just me or does this team not live or die by his performance? I mean the statline for schaub is usually pretty much the same. Misses 10-15 passes, around 250 yards 1 td 1 INT. Win or lose its always the same. Good but no break out. Maybe he just needs to have like an abismal performance just a total gut check 5 interception debacle to get inside his head. I am waiting for him to take over and he just never really puts his stamp on a game. That is what bothers me is he still plays like the backup QB in atlanta and not like he is the starter in Houston. :confused:

El Tejano
11-27-2007, 11:36 AM
I never said he wasn't the best we have had I am just saying I don't feel it with this guy. I would say he plays with a backups mentality. He plays well however. Is it just me or does this team not live or die by his performance? I mean the statline for schaub is usually pretty much the same. Misses 10-15 passes, around 250 yards 1 td 1 INT. Win or lose its always the same. Good but no break out. Maybe he just needs to have like an abismal performance just a total gut check 5 interception debacle to get inside his head. I am waiting for him to take over and he just never really puts his stamp on a game. That is what bothers me is he still plays like the backup QB in atlanta and not like he is the starter in Houston. :confused:

I can hear you on that. However I wouldn't think that he isn't the man to help us become a playoff team. Remember this is his first time with this team altogether. He hardly had his best target all season and when he has, he's looked pretty darn good. I think we will see what we got next year but right now he is doing fine.

BIG ERN
11-27-2007, 11:48 AM
who are these trolls?

caddy
11-27-2007, 12:25 PM
Hello... The problems with the Texans will not be cured by one man. Duh, next you'll tell me that we need a QB with the leadership that we're getting with Schaub. This is the second year with Kubiak and I see no improvement the rah, rah, boys keep hyping about. Gee, this junk about still having a chance at a play-off's, is so very out there, I can't even see it. Please, the only team that doesn't, is Miami who is winless.

Vitruvian
11-27-2007, 01:19 PM
I totally agree with the post. Schaub has improved our team greatly from any year we had Carr. I saw someone write that he has a back up mentality, but I do not think so at all. If he does, maybe it is because he used to be a back up, but he has shown leadership on our team. You can not expect him to come in and take us to a 14-2 season and a super bowl ring. It takes time. He is a huge piece of the puzzle for us and we will add some more pieces going forward. Plus, we are still in the playoff hunt. Somewhere we haven't been before. Also, I am more worried about us becoming the new Broncos, hehehe.

HydrOshocK
11-27-2007, 10:46 PM
I never said he wasn't the best we have had I am just saying I don't feel it with this guy. I would say he plays with a backups mentality. He plays well however. Is it just me or does this team not live or die by his performance? I mean the statline for schaub is usually pretty much the same. Misses 10-15 passes, around 250 yards 1 td 1 INT. Win or lose its always the same. Good but no break out. Maybe he just needs to have like an abismal performance just a total gut check 5 interception debacle to get inside his head. I am waiting for him to take over and he just never really puts his stamp on a game. That is what bothers me is he still plays like the backup QB in atlanta and not like he is the starter in Houston. :confused:

I disagree. Look at the Saints game for example. Schaub went 21/33 for 293 yrds 2 TDs and 0 INTs. I'd say that qualifies as putting his stamp on a game....it was a very solid performance and he was a big reason for that win.

BIG ERN
11-27-2007, 11:01 PM
I disagree. Look at the Saints game for example. Schaub went 21/33 for 293 yrds 2 TDs and 0 INTs. I'd say that qualifies as putting his stamp on a game....it was a very solid performance and he was a big reason for that win.

And he still got no coverage

TEXANottoMAN
11-27-2007, 11:15 PM
He wont until we beat a pet team of the networks.:mad: Which sux. Matt is better than the boards or the press is treating him.

GT
11-27-2007, 11:27 PM
How many times are we going to go here, Schaub is here to stay for several years to come. The man will continue to grow & improve, first year in this system. He does a good job of reading the defenses, has the ability to scan the field & find the open reciever.Have watched Schaub look defenders off quite often. Throws an excellent deep ball. The few shortcomings are inexperince, excitement(has led to bad throws) & over acheiving. Strong suit first few games was the ability to get rid of the ball on a bad play(throwing it away).These days he seems to try to make a play, instead of getting rid of the ball. Could continue but we have all heard this before. For the time being leave the man be & let him play ball.;)

SuperstarII
11-28-2007, 12:49 AM
Hello... The problems with the Texans will not be cured by one man. Duh, next you'll tell me that we need a QB with the leadership that we're getting with Schaub. This is the second year with Kubiak and I see no improvement the rah, rah, boys keep hyping about. Gee, this junk about still having a chance at a play-off's, is so very out there, I can't even see it. Please, the only team that doesn't, is Miami who is winless.

LOL same ol caddy


How is Carr doing? I hear he retired because he couldn't cut it as an NFL QB?

mister_doodi
11-28-2007, 12:51 AM
How friggin dare anyone out there make fun of Shuabby after all he has been through.

He lost his wide recievers, he went through a injury, he had a friggin concussion.

His new running back turned out to be a user, injury prone, and now hes going through a running back identity crisis. All you people care about is touchdown and passing yards.

HE’S A HUMAN! What you don’t realize is that Shuabby is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him.

He hasn’t performed on the field in weeks. His song is called “give me more” for a reason because all you people want is MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE.

LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even performed for you *******S!

LEEEAVE SHAUBBBY ALLLLLONE!…..Please.

caddy
11-28-2007, 01:08 AM
LOL same ol caddy


How is Carr doing? I hear he retired because he couldn't cut it as an NFL QB?

So this is what you got to say about Schaub? That you heard about Carr. Hello, is anybody home?

HydrOshocK
11-28-2007, 02:53 AM
How friggin dare anyone out there make fun of Shuabby after all he has been through.

He lost his wide recievers, he went through a injury, he had a friggin concussion.

His new running back turned out to be a user, injury prone, and now hes going through a running back identity crisis. All you people care about is touchdown and passing yards.

HE’S A HUMAN! What you don’t realize is that Shuabby is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him.

He hasn’t performed on the field in weeks. His song is called “give me more” for a reason because all you people want is MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE.

LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even performed for you *******S!

LEEEAVE SHAUBBBY ALLLLLONE!…..Please.

make any Youtube videos lately?

HydrOshocK
11-28-2007, 02:54 AM
This is the second year with Kubiak and I see no improvement the rah, rah, boys keep hyping about. Gee, this junk about still having a chance at a play-off's, is so very out there, I can't even see it. Please, the only team that doesn't, is Miami who is winless.

what exactly does this have to do with Schaub??

TEXANottoMAN
11-28-2007, 07:28 AM
make any Youtube videos lately?

Dude - I just got the joke - HHHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAAA

HuttoKarl
11-28-2007, 07:35 AM
WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED VY>>>>ALL HE DOES IS WIN GAMES>>>>>


pay no mind to the last three Tacks games. :)

Schaub's got some growing pains in his first season as a full-timer, but he's already shown me much more than David Carr ever has.

TEXANottoMAN
11-28-2007, 07:44 AM
WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED VY>>>>ALL HE DOES IS WIN GAMES>>>>>
.

VY 2007 TDS-5 INT-13 YDS-1,663 RTG-65.3

He lost the last 3 games he has played in.
5-5 as a starter.

Pretty average to me.

Mat Schaub 2007 TDS-9 INT-9 YDS- 2,207 RTG-87.3
He has won 2 of last 3
4-6 as a starter

Average too.

That difference is that there is sooooo much hype around VY, he can easily become a disaaapoinment.

caddy
11-28-2007, 08:02 AM
what exactly does this have to do with Schaub??

Well, mister post writter... read the whole quote. Then look at your other posts here Where you don't say a word about the QB. Hey, build your post count, stop with the personal attacks. Changing QB's because the grass looks greener across the street doesn't mean more wins.

michael123
11-28-2007, 08:15 AM
[I]HuttoKarl WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED VY>>>>ALL HE DOES IS WIN GAMES>>>>>



IMO Vince Young is not even a QB he's more like a big tight end than can throw 50% of the chance, i dont think u should put him in this conversation since his td/int ratio is way below average. Schaub is a [B]QB not a WR/RB/kickreturner/Center/punter/waterboy

Schaub will take us to the superbowl soon and all you haters will ride the bandwaggon. but we will remember who stood up for him throught the tough times GO MATT SCHAUB GO TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!

HydrOshocK
11-28-2007, 09:04 AM
Well, mister post writter... read the whole quote. Then look at your other posts here Where you don't say a word about the QB. Hey, build your post count, stop with the personal attacks. Changing QB's because the grass looks greener across the street doesn't mean more wins.

LOL...you kill me man. I wasn't attacking anyone. I was simply turning the table on you because you were criticizing someone else for not talking about Schaub and taking a cheap shot at Carr instead, yet you yourself went off topic to take another cheap shot at Kubiak and the team....stop with the hypocrisy

And we didn't change QBs because the grass was greener, we changed QBs because the last one sucks.....something you still can't admit. :rolleyes:

wildroot
11-28-2007, 11:08 AM
Schaub dosen't have to be the 2nd coming of the QB Gods to lead this team to success, he just has to be smart and be allowed to play within his game. I don't think he's the kind of QB that can carry the team on his talents either. But the guy is smart and committed to this team, and I think if we can surround him with some talent, IMO he'll do well for us.
Right now we have to upgrade our running game as well as the OL, not sure in which order, but they both have to be addressed in the offseason. We need a stud on the OL, either thru the draft or FA. I think the OL is doing all they can do at this point with the talent they have, but we're one injury away from the whole thing collapsing. Gotta upgrade it in the off-season.
We also need a quick RB that can run btwn the tackles or take it outside and can turn on the afterburners when he needs to.
I really think if we can do something in those two areas in the offseason, your going to like what you see in Schaub.

caddy
11-28-2007, 12:31 PM
LOL...you kill me man. I wasn't attacking anyone. I was simply turning the table on you because you were criticizing someone else for not talking about Schaub and taking a cheap shot at Carr instead, yet you yourself went off topic to take another cheap shot at Kubiak and the team....stop with the hypocrisy

And we didn't change QBs because the grass was greener, we changed QBs because the last one sucks.....something you still can't admit. :rolleyes:

Hello, the post was about Schaub... He's our franchise QB. Now, changing from HIM . You and Superstar are a year behind. Why must you live in the past. Schaub is fine, and changing from him is as dumb as you and star can't leave Carr out of a post. What will it take for you to get up to date. Carr hating has mess-up you head.

Footballz
11-28-2007, 01:45 PM
who are these trolls?



They are EVIL. Stay away. :eek:

kcwilson
11-28-2007, 03:34 PM
I like to look at this from an efficiency standpoint. As a Texans fan, I want a QB who is going to make smart decisions, not turn the ball over and can move the ball when needed.

I like to look at completion % as an indicator of smart decisions. Here are the top 7 QBs by completion %.

Brady - 72.4
Favre - 68.5
Palmer - 67.5
Pennington - 67.4
Brees - 67.3
Roethlisberger - 67.0
Schaub - 66.5
Romo - 66.2

This is pretty good company but doesn't tell the whole story. Notice the lack of Manning. So let's look at int ratio:

Brady - 1.0% (2nd)
Favre - 1.9%
Roethlisberger - 3.1%
Manning - 3.2%
Schaub - 3.2% (T16th)
Brees - 3.3%
Palmer - 3.6%
Pennington - 3.7%
Romo - 3.7%

Schaub is middle of the pack here, but right up there with those guys that sling the ball around and try to make plays.

Since we also know that Carr's high completion % is a misleading stat, let's look at Yards per Pass Attempt as an indicator of dumping it off vs. striking more down field. Here are the top 8 in this Category:

Brady - 8.77
Romo - 8.65
Roethlisberger - 8.26
Cutler - 7.95
Warner - 7.91
Favre - 7.90
Garrard - 7.78
Schaub - 7.77

For the most part, the YPA leaders are in offenses that are generally moving the ball pretty well.

Although Schaub's name appears above Mannings in these stats, that doesn't mean that Schaub is better than Manning (well... Peyton at least).

What it shows is that Schaub is doing a good job moving the ball, getting it to his receivers and putting the Texans in position to score.

3 fumbles lost by Daniels, 1 fumble lost by ADavis on the Goal line, and QB sacks is still a bit of an issue in my mind, though they are admittedly getting better. In my opinion, Kubiak needs to do a better job of playcalling in the red zone. We seem to get aggressive to start drives and then try to grind it out in the red zone.

Anyone that says that Schaub sucks clearly doesn't want one of the better QBs in the league.

wildroot
11-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Don't forget that Schaub's been the starter on a new team, learned a new offense with new players for excactly 11 games now. Only 11 games. Lets give the guy a shot.

TEXANottoMAN
11-28-2007, 06:19 PM
I like to look at this from an efficiency standpoint. As a Texans fan, I want a QB who is going to make smart decisions, not turn the ball over and can move the ball when needed.

I like to look at completion % as an indicator of smart decisions. Here are the top 7 QBs by completion %.

Brady - 72.4
Favre - 68.5
Palmer - 67.5
Pennington - 67.4
Brees - 67.3
Roethlisberger - 67.0
Schaub - 66.5
Romo - 66.2

This is pretty good company but doesn't tell the whole story. Notice the lack of Manning. So let's look at int ratio:

Brady - 1.0% (2nd)
Favre - 1.9%
Roethlisberger - 3.1%
Manning - 3.2%
Schaub - 3.2% (T16th)
Brees - 3.3%
Palmer - 3.6%
Pennington - 3.7%
Romo - 3.7%

Schaub is middle of the pack here, but right up there with those guys that sling the ball around and try to make plays.

Since we also know that Carr's high completion % is a misleading stat, let's look at Yards per Pass Attempt as an indicator of dumping it off vs. striking more down field. Here are the top 8 in this Category:

Brady - 8.77
Romo - 8.65
Roethlisberger - 8.26
Cutler - 7.95
Warner - 7.91
Favre - 7.90
Garrard - 7.78
Schaub - 7.77

For the most part, the YPA leaders are in offenses that are generally moving the ball pretty well.

Although Schaub's name appears above Mannings in these stats, that doesn't mean that Schaub is better than Manning (well... Peyton at least).

What it shows is that Schaub is doing a good job moving the ball, getting it to his receivers and putting the Texans in position to score.

3 fumbles lost by Daniels, 1 fumble lost by ADavis on the Goal line, and QB sacks is still a bit of an issue in my mind, though they are admittedly getting better. In my opinion, Kubiak needs to do a better job of playcalling in the red zone. We seem to get aggressive to start drives and then try to grind it out in the red zone.

Anyone that says that Schaub sucks clearly doesn't want one of the better QBs in the league.

Really good info KC- thanks

Footballz
11-28-2007, 08:14 PM
Don't forget that Schaub's been the starter on a new team, learned a new offense with new players for excactly 11 games now. Only 11 games. Lets give the guy a shot.


I agree. And this is the first time he's been a starter.

Yosarian
11-28-2007, 10:11 PM
Schaub > Carr

Nuff Said!
Couldn't agree more.


pie>caek

Guess which QB belongs to these stats this year. It shouldn't be too hard to remember the old days!

HydrOshocK
11-29-2007, 03:51 AM
Hello, the post was about Schaub... He's our franchise QB. Now, changing from HIM . You and Superstar are a year behind. Why must you live in the past. Schaub is fine, and changing from him is as dumb as you and star can't leave Carr out of a post. What will it take for you to get up to date. Carr hating has mess-up you head.

pfft....yea ok bud, keep trying :rolleyes:

outofhnd
11-29-2007, 09:00 AM
Don't forget that Schaub's been the starter on a new team, learned a new offense with new players for excactly 11 games now. Only 11 games. Lets give the guy a shot.

Atlanta has run the exact same offense from 2004-2006. So he knows it thats one reason he was brought over.

caddy
11-29-2007, 05:21 PM
The only thing I saw was a coment on the leadership stuff the frt. office was pushing. About the thing after practice, going over to his house for a stay-over. But to me it sounded like Linemen humor. They seem to take shots at the smaller QB's and running backs. It's part of the football team IQ, just in fun.

Newfan2006
11-30-2007, 01:33 AM
So far the Shaub haters have said Schaub is to blame for:
1. Bad playcalling,
2. receivers not listening,
3. sacks,
4. no running game,
5. not winning,
6. not enough TD's,
and whatever else.




I am a Schaub lover (spare me the middle-school jokes) I have noticed:
1. Kubes and Co. are resonsible for playcalling he is still a little too young and new to change plays like Peyton so that's on them not him,
2. I have seen countless miscommunications resulting in INT's or "where was that headed" none of which repeat NONE were from Schaub,
3. he has 13 sacks on the season third best of the league and with our crappy O-line 13 as apposed to DC's 79 of his first season here,
4. what is he supposed to do about this?
5. we have won more games than ever before if you count the 2-0 start the 5-5 and whatever else you want,
6. he also got us our highest scoring game 31 pts,



End rant whatever you guys say he is THE BEST we could hope for, and had at our disposal. I am MORE than happy, he has done better than I expected and this is all without AJ for seven games. anyone who disagrees give me reasons, other than "waaaaah no superbowl this year waaaaah, it's all his fault because it can be no one else's fault."

Dang this was a big waste of time I should have just waited 'till our next win when all you "bandwagoneer: can't read stats or understand the game I can only read W or L" fans are kissing his butt again singing praise to His "Schaubyness"

sleepwalker
11-30-2007, 01:39 PM
Carr wearing those stupid white gloves HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Carr will end up being cut again and his career is over.

As far as Schaub bashing: If a fan complains and it makes you mad then I don't know what to say.........Take a breath, relax and enjoy this forum where people area allowed to complain, take our frustration or whatever they want within the rules.

I think I will bash Schaub a little bit now: He is not very good under pressure and teams know it. However it's really just his first full season, he's definitely going to get better.

I'm sure he'll be remembering that pancake from Haynesworth Sunday.

rush2112mn
12-01-2007, 06:53 PM
I don't understand some of these fans. I don't really think they have a grasp on the game of football at all or understand just how complex it is. I wonder how many of them have actually seen any of the football players carrying around this mammoth thing called a playbook around. It is big. I have seen them walking around with them when I was at hotel room on road games. They are big, and very complex.
You got a qb who has been a backup to Vick for a few years. It is his first year as the starting qb. He is coming over from a different team. It is a different system than Atlanta's. They may say it is similar, but it is different terminology all together. It is like learning a whole new vocabuary all over again.
Along with learning the offensive plays, you are having to learn to about your new teammates. Andre Johnson was interviewed by Jim Rome a while back and Andre thought it would take Matt Schaub a year to get familar with the system. Not a couple of games, but a whole season and offseason to get very familar with it.

HydrOshocK
12-01-2007, 07:06 PM
I don't understand some of these fans. I don't really think they have a grasp on the game of football at all or understand just how complex it is. I wonder how many of them have actually seen any of the football players carrying around this mammoth thing called a playbook around. It is big. I have seen them walking around with them when I was at hotel room on road games. They are big, and very complex.
You got a qb who has been a backup to Vick for a few years. It is his first year as the starting qb. He is coming over from a different team. It is a different system than Atlanta's. They may say it is similar, but it is different terminology all together. It is like learning a whole new vocabuary all over again.
Along with learning the offensive plays, you are having to learn to about your new teammates. Andre Johnson was interviewed by Jim Rome a while back and Andre thought it would take Matt Schaub a year to get familar with the system. Not a couple of games, but a whole season and offseason to get very familar with it.

I don't think it will take/has taken him a full season to fully learn the system because he already knows the schemes and the had a full offseason to learn the terminology, but it's safe to say he hasn't had a full season to master his timing with our best WR. That will be a huge factor going forward. AJ's #s for the limited time he's played this season have been off the charts in terms of YPC and YPG. AJ still isn't 100% healthy so we likely won't reap all the rewards of the Schaub-Johnson connection until netxt season.

wildroot
12-01-2007, 07:54 PM
That's especially true. A QB has to be in sinq with every one on the field not to mention having that feel for what his OL is doing in front of him without having to watch them. As time goes by he'll know what his blockers are doing, what their tendancies are, where he can step to stay out of harms way and this happens through repitition. He can then spend his time looking downfield.
Schaub's the type of guy that'll be out there working on his timing with his reciever's this offseason in an effort to bring his best game next year.
Give him some time. In the meanwhile we've got to get him a LT and a RB this offseason. Our 3rd priority should be a safety.
I really don't have anything bad to say about the guy, I mean look at the kid in Washington and Cleveland, took them a little time but the patience is paying off now.

outofhnd
12-02-2007, 03:06 AM
This is what I understand, I understand the terminology is dofferent but its not new to him he knows the meaning of the terminology. He knows what he is seeing out there. The problem is he still plays with a back-up QB mentality. He is playing not to make mistakes.

As that commercial says "the pursuit of perfection can only end in madness, The pursuit of destiny will only end in triumph." Hes trying to be too perfect with his throws to minimize mistakes he stops and sometimes hesitates because he doesn't want to make a mistake. He is not using his instincts out there. You can blame the line all you want but the fact is this is the best our line has ever been he needs to decide and fire away. He is not doing that, sure he may throw a few pick but he needs to put his stamp on this offense and establish, I can live with the picks if looking at the play I can see why he threw it. What I cant live with his lack of ball security pre throw, His throws underneath the marker on 3rd down. and throws to a bracketed WR. If you are gonna force a throw force it to the guy in single coverage. Play for the score dont play for field position. Coaches should also help out and realize we dont have the personnel to run a grind it out clock milking offense.