People bring back!

[Wolf123]

I just read that the texans will bring back mathis, try and bring back andre davis and believe that Ahman will be better next season. They said that they will evaluate the safties and fred weary at the end of the season.

I do not want to see us bring back ahman, this knee injury doesn't seem like it will get better with time.

[headsplint]

I just read that the texans will bring back mathis, try and bring back andre davis and believe that Ahman will be better next season. They said that they will evaluate the safties and fred weary at the end of the season.

I do not want to see us bring back ahman, this knee injury doesn't seem like it will get better with time.

He is already here under contract, why not have him battle it out in training camp? He doesn't have any trade value given his injury all season IMO.

[DiehardChris]

I'm fine with them bringing him back if and only if they still revamp the position in the off-season knowing they can't count on him to stay healthy and be the starter. He's just making too much money to cut loose, and I think a more knowledgeable salary cap person said that the cap hit will be MUCH less severe if we release him after next season instead of after this one.

[foozball]

back in october, they said they were confident that charles spencer's injury wasnt career threatening, and with they way smith said he'd evaluate the safety position, it looks like they're gonna draft a DB in the 1st round instead of an OT.

[johndoe]

is there a link???

[foozball]

it was in the chronicle i believe

[aj.]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5382225.html

Facing some dilemmas
The bigger-name casualties such as Green, McKinney, Weary, Dunta Robinson and injury-prone return whiz Jerome Mathis present a variety of dilemmas. It is assumed Robinson won't be ready at the start of next season, so contingency plans must be made for his extended absence. Also, there has been speculation that Green, whose 260 rushing yards have cost the Texans more than $6.5 million, won't finish out his $23 million contract, that the team will cut its losses and move on.
Smith, however, insists the 30-year-old Green will prove to be reliable and productive.

"We'll tender Jerome an offer, and I don't think Ahman will be any worse for wear next year because he won't have played that much," Smith said. "I expect him to fully recover and contribute."



They'll lose nothing by bringing Ahman back for camp and preseason but they will need to make a decision on him by the end of August. Despite what Rick says now, I don't think they are (still) crazy enough to think AG can come back as a full time starter.

[Little D]

I didn't see anything about Andre Davis in there eventhough I hope they do bring him back.

[Wolverine]

I have no problem w/bringing back Green as long as they go into next season w/the mindset that they won't have him, meaning they may draft a RB or get one from FA. Plus Taylor is suppose to make a comeback and Walker looks promising thus far.

[wildroot]

They said he was out due to a bruise on his knee. That's pretty lame if he's missed all this time due to a bruise, especially when the team really needs you on the field. I thought it was something much more serious.

[aj.]

They called Domanick Davis' condition a bruise also. His turned out to be a degenerative bone on bone thing where the knee cartilage deteriorated, leaving him with chronic knee pain and swelling. Who knows what they aren't telling us about AG's knee. Just don't think of 'bruise' in the context of when you roll off the couch to go to the fridge for another beer and you hit your knee on the floor. There's obviously something going on inside his knee that isn't right and it may be the pre-arthritic thing hitting him.

[Towlie]

THey better bring davis back... he has been one of our better play makers

[aj.]

Rick Smith said on Tuesday (on Kubiak's radio show) that they have every intention of bringing Andre Davis back. But a lot of it depends on what Andre and his agent want. I think Andre likes it here and if the Texans make him a fair deal, he'll be back.

[Otisbean]

I think people should be careful when looking at injuries. Just because DD had an injury that ended up being career ending doesn't mean that every Texan (AG and CS) that has a knee problem will end up like him. AG might have a bone bruise in his knee. These are very serious and can end up being career threatening but they don't have to be. It all depends on how the injury responds. I had a bone bruise in my ankle and it sidelined me for about 3 months and it took another 3 months til I felt normal again. He looked very good when he played. If he can get healthy and split some carries we can have a stout running game next year.

[wildroot]

I think people should be careful when looking at injuries. Just because DD had an injury that ended up being career ending doesn't mean that every Texan (AG and CS) that has a knee problem will end up like him. AG might have a bone bruise in his knee. These are very serious and can end up being career threatening but they don't have to be. It all depends on how the injury responds. I had a bone bruise in my ankle and it sidelined me for about 3 months and it took another 3 months til I felt normal again. He looked very good when he played. If he can get healthy and split some carries we can have a stout running game next year.

They need to call it something other than a bruise then. Hell, I see a guy not playing 'cause he got a bruise on his knee and I've got visions of Youngblood playing with a broken arm, Emmit with a dislocated shoulder I'm thinking this guys has a bruise on his knee and he's not playing?!? Yeah, give the injury a name that more describes the problem. Knee rot? You tell me the guys got knee rot and I'm thinking, yeah, he needs to be on the sideline. But not a bruised knee.

[ObsiWan]

I just read that the texans will bring back mathis, try and bring back andre davis and believe that Ahman will be better next season. They said that they will evaluate the safties and fred weary at the end of the season.

I do not want to see us bring back ahman, this knee injury doesn't seem like it will get better with time.

What's the point of this thread?
If Ahman doesn't heal up properly, he won't play. At the worst he'll end up on the PUP list. So?

And I like the idea of bringing Mathis back. He deserves one more shot based on the positive way he responded to Kubiak's challenge to him in camp. Just like Travis Johnson has. If he learns to catch, we could put a 4x40 track team on the field. And the more offensive weapons we have, the better off we'll be.

None of the secondary guys (not named Dunta) who started the year are head and shoulders above the replacement guys who are currently playing. Bring the whole lot back and let the cream rise to the top!

[DeclanJr]

I'm fine with the running backs we will go into next season with. If there is a RB steal at the position we are drafting, then go ahead and draft him. Otherwise, we need help at CB and OL (L-Tackle).

I would definately bring back Ahman. If he wants to continue playing in the NFL, he will come into next season in shape and ready to contribute. I see no reason why he shouldn't be 100% next year.

Along with Ahman, I would love to have Andre Davis back next year. The guy can make big plays on special teams and as a wide receiver. He has been one of the bright spots on this team this season.

The only guy I am iffy about is Jerome Mathis. Has he played a full season yet? The Texans just need to move on and find another return man.

[Wolf123]

What's the point of this thread?
If Ahman doesn't heal up properly, he won't play. At the worst he'll end up on the PUP list. So?

And I like the idea of bringing Mathis back. He deserves one more shot based on the positive way he responded to Kubiak's challenge to him in camp. Just like Travis Johnson has. If he learns to catch, we could put a 4x40 track team on the field. And the more offensive weapons we have, the better off we'll be.

None of the secondary guys (not named Dunta) who started the year are head and shoulders above the replacement guys who are currently playing. Bring the whole lot back and let the cream rise to the top!

The point of this thread was to tell people that Smith is bringing Mathis back and still believes that ahman will be an impact runner for us. Most people had been wondering about ahman and some of the other free agents and I was just letting them know.

[aj.]

What's the point of this thread?
If Ahman doesn't heal up properly, he won't play. At the worst he'll end up on the PUP list. So?

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Yeah, that would be the worst since it would cost over $5 million on the cap to park him on the PUP but only around $3.75 over two years to cut him if he can't go.

[Wolf123]

Thats what i'm trying to get at. His injury looks like DD's and I don't want us to waste money with him being on the injured list all year.

[Texas Bull]

Just a quick question but will Micheal Turner be available and does anyone here think he would be a good direction to go in if he is?

[misterpc]

Davis >>> Mathis

I really want to see Davis back, also Demps. Also Kalu and hopefully Clark.

[Wolf123]

Davis isn't greater then mathis in kick return.

[headsplint]

Davis isn't greater then mathis in kick return.

he did make it through a full season, however. (so far)

[GT]

he did make it through a full season, however. (so far)Mathis has had a problem making a full season.At least Davis has proven his durability & if I had to chose between the two I would take Davis.

[Wolf123]

We don't have to choose between the two because mathis is a Restricted free agent.

[ObsiWan]

Mathis has had a problem making a full season.At least Davis has proven his durability & if I had to chose between the two I would take Davis.

If I had to pick between the two I'd also pick Davis. He's shown that he can play WR. Mathis was taking steps in that direction but Davis now has a season under his belt in our offense. Mathis has potential - assuming he can stay healthy - Davis is a proven commodity.

[ObsiWan]

Yeah, that would be the worst since it would cost over $5 million on the cap to park him on the PUP but only around $3.75 over two years to cut him if he can't go.

good point.
but I still say bring him back to camp to try and get some production for our investment. If he doesn't heal completely by preseason, we cut our losses.

[aj.]

good point.
but I still say bring him back to camp to try and get some production for our investment. If he doesn't heal completely by preseason, we cut our losses.

I think they will bring him back just to see how things go through camp. They have until the first week in Sept to cut those losses.

They also have an option to designate him for release pre-March 1 and get the same post-June 1 cap benefit if that's the direction they choose.

[misterpc]

Davis isn't greater then mathis in kick return.

Davis is a threat in the passing game, and he can run block, and he can return kicks, and he can make it throught a season without getting injured. He contributes much more to the team than Mathis, all Mathis has done is return some kicks and get injured a lot. Now that we have Jacoby Jones who can be groomed as our kick returner, Andre Davis is a much bigger priority than Mathis. If we take a chance on Mathis as our 5th WR thats fine with me but we better make sure to resign Davis.

[rush2112mn]

I would think the Texans would have learned their lesson from the whole Dominique Davis-Williams deal before they bringing back Ahman Green back again. That whole deal with Davis was a mess. I don't want the same thing happening again with Green.
Ahman says it is a deep bone bruise. I think there is more to it. I doubt he will ever be fully recovered from it whatever it is.
I would rather see how well Chris Taylor is over Ahman Green. If you want to keep Green through training camp...that is ok and then cut him and use him sort of like a player-coach, I am ok with that. But, to have him back for the regular season next year. That is another story.
As far as Mathis is concerned. I hate to say it because I liked his determination to comeback, however, he is injury prone as well. I think we should cut him too.
It is time to move on.....

[South Texan]

I would think the Texans would have learned their lesson from the whole Dominique Davis-Williams deal before they bringing back Ahman Green back again. That whole deal with Davis was a mess. I don't want the same thing happening again with Green.
Ahman says it is a deep bone bruise. I think there is more to it. I doubt he will ever be fully recovered from it whatever it is.
I would rather see how well Chris Taylor is over Ahman Green. If you want to keep Green through training camp...that is ok and then cut him and use him sort of like a player-coach, I am ok with that. But, to have him back for the regular season next year. That is another story.
As far as Mathis is concerned. I hate to say it because I liked his determination to comeback, however, he is injury prone as well. I think we should cut him too.
It is time to move on.....

A little off subject but if they had serious doubts about DD coming back would we have Reggie on the team instead of Mario? Hmmmmmmmm

But... point taken and agreed with... if ther is any real doubt that a player's return is in question then make sure a resonably good backup is in camp to compete for the spot.