1st round pick

[HoustonFan88]

Alright, there are a lot of threads out there with people making there arguments for the first rounder. I've seen everything from OT to DE. I think it'd be nice to consolidate everything onto one thread to see where public opinion lies numerically. Put the position, the prospect, and a brief description of why. This is assuming that we don't trade away the first round pick.


RB

Jonathan Stewart

I agree that our team has more pressing needs, but I'm not sold on the risky running back in the third if a stud falls to us. I think when it comes to #18 Stewart will be the best player available (if he's available).

[BMT TEXAN]

FS/SS

KENNY PHILLIPS

We cant ignore this position no longer. All our safeties we have now are pretty much free agents. The ones who are under contract is nothing special & secondary is a big concern for us right now.If Quinn Gray can throw for 300+ yards against us, we will be in SERIOUS trouble if we dont address our secondary for next year. CB situation will probably be addressed thru FA, re-sign Demps & draft Phillips, then i think this is a good foundation to go with what we already have-playmakers at each level D-line,LB,CB, and now Safety. I really think RB will be taken in later rnds.

[foozball]

i think the decision will be pretty easy once the draft rolls around. no way that kenny phillips, rashard mendenhall, and jonathan stewart will all be available at 18. i say we take whoever is available out of those 3. if we go with an OT at 18, i think chris williams is the best choice, but im not sure if gibbs will go for an OT in round 1. CB is another option, but none are worth the 18th pick IMO except for mckelvin, who will most likely be a top 12 pick.

[Texian]

Calais Campbell

This based on the belief that Kubiak and Gibbs will not take a RB or OL in the first. If that is the case Campbell could be the BPA. The Giants made a case for having lots of good DL.

[steelbtexan]

1. Williams We have needed a LT since our inception
2. Campbell Giants proved secondary doesn't have to be great if you can rush the passer
3. Cromartie Most versatile DB in the draft can play CB or FS (Fast)
4. Connor Best LB in draft (IMO) can't go wrong taking a Penn State LB
5. Mendenhal Best rb in the draft (IMO)

[South Texan]

As I have said before, so much depends on Spencer and Dunta.
Throw in who Smith will pick up in FA and everything becomes murky.

Worst case, let's say neither Spencer or Dunta is at 100% on draft day and we don't find a good corner in FA.

First round go with the best talent available for a LT or Corner assuming some other major other talent doesn't fall through the cracks to #18 (like an Adrian Peterson). I know RB's make the game exciting, but considering we now have Coach Gibbs, give him some talent on the O-Line and quite possibly one of our current RBs will become exciting.

[FILOMAN]

I think that we should take a RB either Mendenhall or Stewart which ever is there. If neither is there I believe that we move down and get at least a 2nd and 3rd. 2 2nds would be nice though.

[Wolf123]

As I have said before, so much depends on Spencer and Dunta.
Throw in who Smith will pick up in FA and everything becomes murky.

Worst case, let's say neither Spencer or Dunta is at 100% on draft day and we don't find a good corner in FA.

First round go with the best talent available for a LT or Corner assuming some other major other talent doesn't fall through the cracks to #18 (like an Adrian Peterson). I know RB's make the game exciting, but considering we now have Coach Gibbs, give him some talent on the O-Line and quite possibly one of our current RBs will become exciting.

I agree please god let them come back 100%

[texans83]

We can't afford any of those guys. Let's get kickers w/ every pick. Brown and Turk are getting old...we need depth at the position.:)

dude Brown is our best player. JK. I think we are fine at the Kicker pos. Punter I dont know about, Has anyone ever seen Turk up close? The dude is huge. Ive never seen a punter as big as him.

[TeddyRafter]

If we go DB.. I'd say let's go KP (Kenny Phillips)

If we go HB... JStew all the way for me..

[Texanf@n]

I just saw this on Pro Football Weekly's mock draft and thought it is an interesting senerio for #18:

OTGosder Cherilus | Boston College

Struggled as a senior, but he is still loaded with natural ability and could help keep Matt Schaub healthy in 2008 — a task an average offensive line could not do.

He is one massive dude!

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=9100

[Neo]

I just saw this on Pro Football Weekly's mock draft and thought it is an interesting senerio for #18:

OTGosder Cherilus | Boston College

Struggled as a senior, but he is still loaded with natural ability and could help keep Matt Schaub healthy in 2008 — a task an average offensive line could not do.

He is one massive dude!

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=9100If you are basing things on that site they have him ranked 7th at his position. That would be a bad pick at 18. If you are going by that website of course.

[Armor For Sleep]

I just saw this on Pro Football Weekly's mock draft and thought it is an interesting senerio for #18:

OTGosder Cherilus | Boston College

Struggled as a senior, but he is still loaded with natural ability and could help keep Matt Schaub healthy in 2008 — a task an average offensive line could not do.

He is one massive dude!

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=9100

I'm really tired of this misconception. We gave up 22 sacks last year, good for 6th fewest in the league, but yeah, they were sooooooo terrible. People need to do some research. Cherilus is garbage and will be a RT at best in the NFL. Unless we're moving the caveman, we will not draft Cherilus. Not to mention he is too stiff and immobile to play on a Gibbs line.

[Armor For Sleep]

Alright, there are a lot of threads out there with people making there arguments for the first rounder. I've seen everything from OT to DE. I think it'd be nice to consolidate everything onto one thread to see where public opinion lies numerically. Put the position, the prospect, and a brief description of why. This is assuming that we don't trade away the first round pick.

CB, Leodis McKelvin/Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Dunta is out for a while and may never be the same. Bennett showed flashes but may regress. Our depth at CB is bad (Petey and Fletcher are pretty bad). It seems like a no-brainer, unless we sign a big name in free agency, which is highly unlikely. Also, for the record, Demeco thinks we need a CB more than anything.

[Armor For Sleep]

2 things wrong here...one he doesnt fit ZBS...and two he is not a good LT he will fail unless he is a RT....

I want J- Stew first...if he is gone I want Brandon Flowers....2nd best crner in the draft behind mcklevin

My rankings:
1. McKelvin
2. Jenkins
3. DRC
4. Talib
5. Patrick Lee
6. Godfrey
7. Porter
8. Justin King
9. Cason
10. Flowers

Sorry, but Flowers isn't that good, is slow, and has character issues. We would never draft him.

[Armor For Sleep]

flowers does not have character issues.....and he isnt slow...very quick and has amazing make up speed...i dont know where you get your info but who ever is feeding it to you needs to stop....drc and talib are the most overrated cbs in the draft....mcklevin is number one with flowers behind him....jenkins is third with lee and godfrey behind them....

Flowers has 4.5 speed, not exactly what I would call "quick" or "amazing". As for the character issues:

A photograph posted on Virginia Tech's redshirt junior cornerback Brandon Flowers' Facebook profile might raise some concerns over his off-the-field activities in his home town of Delray Beach, Fla., less than an hour away from where Flowers may be playing his last game in a Tech uniform in the Orange Bowl.

The caption on the picture reads, "Dis How Palm Beach County Dope Boiz Get Down Baaaaabeh Every day *****z Hustlin." The picture shows a mass of cash spread out on a carpet. The denominations of the bills appear to be mostly 20s, but there are 50s and 100s as well. The sum of the cash is impossible to calculate because the bills are not organized, strewn randomly on the floor, but one row of cash has more than 40 twenty dollar bills.

In the bottom right corner of the picture, which was in his photo album, "Dot," added on May 27, 2006, is a small plastic baggie containing what appears to be a white substance.

http://www.collegiatetimes.com/cms/site/print.php?id=10299

[Armor For Sleep]

wheres a qoute saying he did it? its facebook guy people can make them and say its someone else....and he has 4.4 speed not 4.5

I doubt anyone cares enough about Brandon freaking Flowers to make a fake Facebook page. He's not Vince Young or anything :rolleyes:. Anyway, I don't feel like going back and forth with you. We'll see what he runs at the combine. Until then, keep the man-crush strong.

[Armor For Sleep]

that we will.....it doesnt matter i dont want this as much as i want j-stew....he is only if stewart is gone...who do u want?

I like Stewart too, but everyone here is all over Mendenhall. If I had to choose, I'd be happy with Stewart, Phillips, McKelvin, DRC (his stock is going to go crazy after the combine), Connor, or maybe Harvey or Merling if their stock slips. None of the top OL prospects really excite me, but I guess I could see us going that way, despite the Gibbs factor.

[Yosarian]

I don't keep up with the college rank so i can not make a comment here. I only wanted to add...that whoever we get first.......better be a WINNER with a winning attitude.

A good attitude is worth a lot. A good attitude and a good work ethic. I think the later is harder to find today. But not impossible. We need someone humble and hungry who knows what it is like to suffer but doesn't ever talk about it.

I hope we get some winners again this year. Also i think an important factor for us is to look at their current condition..ie..physical shape. We have depth issues and to survive the long season we are going to need durable players who don't whine about minor injuries and look forward to proving they can be the best in the highest athletic format known to man.

Thats what i want. Whoever that may be. I think we proved that when healthy we can win with our team now so any addition needs to be a depth improvement or as others have said our obvious needs positions-OL- CB-SS.

I feel like to spend more on the def line is not helping. We have thrown all kinds of money at the def line and have got not a lot to show for it because these guys need time to develop. Which i am ok with. They really showed a lot of improvement this year and will only get better as the years go by. But i feel like yes we need a good pass rush but we have spent enough to get the job done. Just waiting on time.

One last thought is this.....although it seems appropriate to take the position you need ....sometimes it is wiser to take the best available player when your turn to pick comes up. As an example i give you Adrian Peterson. Do you think the Vikes were looking for a RB? But because he was the best players available hey took him anyway. I think this should also be kept in the back of our minds as the picks start to go down. Take the best guy if he is that good over a depth guy we "need" who may not be as talented. gather the talent first and wheel and deal to get the guys you need later.

I'll sit back and listen now.

[headsplint]

EXCELLENT post

Yep now i'm convinced. amazingandre is back.

[headsplint]

hows that work.....are you following me?

not anymore.

[South Texan]

Been poking around some mock drafts and considering the situation with Dunta our 1'st round may just end up being this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFAc3Puo68k

OK, I hear groans from a lot of folks about drafting another defensive guy in the first round, but if this year's Super Bowl proved nothing else, it at least proved, once again, defenses win games.

[Matt_in_KW]

After watch ALL DAY rip iit up in the Pro Bowl...I'd take a legit RB. But, I don't see the pick at #18...more into the 20's due to trade. And I see it a D player...and as someone said due to D-Rob and unkown. It maybe a CB.

[Texanf@n]

I'm really tired of this misconception. We gave up 22 sacks last year, good for 6th fewest in the league, but yeah, they were sooooooo terrible. People need to do some research. Cherilus is garbage and will be a RT at best in the NFL. Unless we're moving the caveman, we will not draft Cherilus. Not to mention he is too stiff and immobile to play on a Gibbs line.

It is all speculation Sleep. Calm down. I only threw it out for conversation because there isn't much going on to talk about now. Thanks for your opinion thought, I can tell you really think this stuff through and I for one appriciate the insite.
But....never say never. Maybe this guy is a great athelete that hasn't been coached well. No one knows what the Texans draft plan is but the Texans, and they ain't talkin'.

[wildroot]

I'm really tired of this misconception. We gave up 22 sacks last year, good for 6th fewest in the league, but yeah, they were sooooooo terrible. People need to do some research. Cherilus is garbage and will be a RT at best in the NFL. Unless we're moving the caveman, we will not draft Cherilus. Not to mention he is too stiff and immobile to play on a Gibbs line.

Garbage?!? Most Draft rankings by position have him in the 5-7 best OTs coming out. I'd say he's far from garbage.