Rex Hadnot back to Houston?

[Vitruvian]

Texans are interested in getting Rex Hadnot, a guard for the Dolphins, in to play be the backup center. What do you think?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/5578521.html

[Texian]

After reading the article I don't think Hadnot is being looked at as a backup. Hadnot started every game the last 3 years at G for Miami. I think if signed he will be given the chance to start.

[Wolf123]

He'll be great fro competition...I still think Eslinger will win the start, and I think he would definitely be the #2, and McKinney will be the #3 if this happens. Of course it's just my opinion I could be wrong. Maybe we can get 0ss0 over here to give us the facts.

This signing would not be good for Eslinger. If they felt he was starting caliber they wouldn't be going after Rex. Alot of teams are after him and he's going to want much more then backup money.

[Cougar54]

I've been saying we should bring him back to Houston...I think he's a solid starter at guards opposite of Chester. We don't know how Weary is going to be after his injury. Hadnot can play any interior lineman spot.

[El Tejano]

I don't feel right about a guy that was one of the members of an offensive line that gave up quite a few sacks. I just don't know much about that dude.

[El Tejano]

It was mainly Carr that gave up the sacks, the O-line got a bum rap. Hadnot is pretty solid.
I'm actually talking about Miami's OL. I am hoping this guy would be solid if Gibbs has anything to do with it though.

[Towlie]

A backup ehh??? DOesn't matter

[DiehardChris]

So, does anyone know if McKinney is not an ideal fit for Gibbs' system? Or is it just that the Texans don't count on him to stay healthy? (good move)

Because I think McKinney makes way too much money to be a backup... yet I remember that he was doing a great job last year before he got hurt... so I assume this move is insurance in case he gets hurt? In other words, if they sign him, McKinney would still be the starting C, but Hadnot would start elsewhere on the line and slide to C when McKinney inevitably gets injured. What do you guys think?

[WaldovonPutz]

McKinney is a quality player. If he is only a backup, it means the Texans are getting some depth and will be making a little noise next year.

[kmc1499]

I'm actually talking about Miami's OL. I am hoping this guy would be solid if Gibbs has anything to do with it though.

He is talking about how a bad very very bad qb can make is seem like your ol is garbage.

[Wolf123]

So, does anyone know if McKinney is not an ideal fit for Gibbs' system? Or is it just that the Texans don't count on him to stay healthy? (good move)

Because I think McKinney makes way too much money to be a backup... yet I remember that he was doing a great job last year before he got hurt... so I assume this move is insurance in case he gets hurt? In other words, if they sign him, McKinney would still be the starting C, but Hadnot would start elsewhere on the line and slide to C when McKinney inevitably gets injured. What do you guys think?

I think hadnot is coming in to start at Center. THe guards are pretty much set and the only place for playing time is at C. I think their waiting to see how mckinney responds and see what they have in enslinger and white before they actualy decide what to do with mckinney.

[Coach]

Rex would be coming in to compete for the starting Center spot...personally i think this would be a great move by smith and kube

Eslinger is a highly decorated college center but has done nothing in the pros so at best he is just there for competition

McKinney and White are coming off of serious knee injuries that killed their seasons last year...neither are garrenteed to be the same type of player when they return just like weary

[TexSid]

Hadnot lost the starting center position at Miami and has been inconsistent for the last 2 years. When he moved to guard he had a lot of illegal motion penalties and is not known for his pass blocking. He is an aggressive run blocker and is a former UH players so there is a local tie. He would compete at center but I'd be surprised to see him start unless McKinney struggles.

[GT]

Lets just say there will be a lot of competetion for the center spot.I believe Eslinger will get the start and MKkinney may be gone.What everyone forgets about Eslinger is that he played a RBZ center his whole career in college.McKinney is starting to get a little long in the tooth and may not make a full recovery.For those who did not see or remember, here is Eslingers credentials.

Greg Eslinger (born April 23 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_23), 1983 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983) in Bismarck, North Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismarck%2C_North_Dakota)) is an American football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football) center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_%28American_football%29) who is a practice squad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_squad) player for the Houston Texans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Texans) of the National Football League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League). He was originally drafted by the Denver Broncos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos) in the sixth round of the 2006 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft). He played college football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football) at Minnesota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Golden_Gophers_football)



At Minnesota, he was a four-year starter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starting_lineup). As a senior, he was awarded the Outland Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outland_Trophy), which is given to college football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football)'s best interior lineman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineman_%28football%29), as well as the Dave Rimington Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rimington_Trophy), awarded to college football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football)'s top center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_%28American_football%29). A Bismarck, North Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismarck%2C_North_Dakota) native, Eslinger was also two-time Associated Press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press) All-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-American) (2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_in_sports), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_in_sports)) and a three-time First Team All-Big Ten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference) performer (2003, 2004, 2005).

Awards and honors

Sporting News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_News) Freshman All-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-America) (2002)
Third-team All-American (2003)
3x First-team All-Big Ten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference) (2003-2005)
FWAA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Writers_Association_of_America) All-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_College_Football_All-America_Team) (2004)
Rimington Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rimington_Trophy) finalist (2004)
Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year (2005)
Lombardi Award (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lombardi_Award) semifinalist (2005)
Consensus All-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_College_Football_All-America_Team) (2005)
Outland Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outland_Trophy) (2005)
Rimington Trophy (2005)

[Clamp]

I really feel like Eslinger will be the one to benefit most from Gibbs. He is going to come into his own and be the one of the first to find a place in the revamped ZBS. Hadnot i think will probably step in at one fo the gaurd spots or be a swing guy (a backup who can play multiple positions on the line is very good to have, as it allows you to give one of the limited slots on the final roster to another position if needed). I hope we get hadnot but i think he will be beat out for center by Eslinger.

[Coach]

while i know that eslinger has the talents to do the job in college it has yet to be proven he could do it in the pros...he was drafted by a team that ran the zone blocking scheme...they needed a young guy to groom to replace nalen...so if he's so good then why was he on the street...why was he not still on the bronco's practice squad? i have a feeling he's not all he's been hyped up to be when he was in college

[aj.]

...if he's so good then why was he on the street...why was he not still on the bronco's practice squad?

Because the Browns signed him off the Broncos practice squad late last year.

Eslinger had a serious shoulder injury in '06 and was IR'd for the entire year. He played well in Europe last summer. The Browns released him in late December.

He was obviously not a fit in Cleveland but it wasn't like Denver threw him out with the trash.

[GT]

while i know that eslinger has the talents to do the job in college it has yet to be proven he could do it in the pros...he was drafted by a team that ran the zone blocking scheme...they needed a young guy to groom to replace nalen...so if he's so good then why was he on the street...why was he not still on the bronco's practice squad? i have a feeling he's not all he's been hyped up to be when he was in collegeDo your self a favor and bump a few threads on this subject.Use that little search link and you can discover all types of interesting info.There are several threads on this subject .....here read this (http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=5334&highlight=greg+eslinger) or this (http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=5157&highlight=greg+eslinger) or this (http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=4760&highlight=greg+eslinger).

[Super Mario Bros]

Texans are "entertaining" Hadnot tonight at the Rockets game.

A deal seems to be imminent.

[zanth91]

According to John McClain today, Hadnot would be the starting Center if McKinney cannot go. If McKinney can come back healthy, they will move Hadnot over to Guard. Texans want him bad because he can play both positions, as can McKinney. Hope this works out, he would be a good get....

Would he play RG though?

[Towlie]

Do we really need a guy that came from one of the worst offense line in the league???

[headsplint]

Do we really need a guy that came from one of the worst offense line in the league???

Ya I have the same concerns...

[dattexboy]

We were considered one of the worst lines in the league and if Steve McKinney or Chester Pitts were available teams would be interested so you can't say a blanket statement about one player from a bad O-line. IMO. Remember O lineman works as a cohesive unit..helping each other out....they are also the most close knit group of the bunch on most teams. I trust the Kub and Smith and this Gibbs guy to know what they want and whom to offer a starting position to...
Nobody was talking about Ryan Grant or Ward or Stecker last year either and they stepped up...you guys act like high schoolers sometimes...always wanting the popular choice...trust in your team until they give you a reason/s not to...I'll Holla!

[steelbtexan]

The dolphins line was not that bad. Ronnie Brown was one of the leading rushers before he got hurt. They had QB & defensive problems.

If Gibbs wants Hadnot then I'm on board with this.

Reeves is another story. He stinks & no amount of coaching is going to cover up the stench. IMHO

[JAXwithanX]

Hadnot leaving Houston without deal. Headed to Cleveland, doesn't sound likely we sign him....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5584464.html

[Matt_in_KW]

He'll be great fro competition...I still think Eslinger will win the start, and I think he would definitely be the #2, and McKinney will be the #3 if this happens. Of course it's just my opinion I could be wrong. Maybe we can get 0ss0 over here to give us the facts.

McKinney can play all spots on the OL but LT. So, if he comes in McKinney would be an emergencey center and play somewhere else on the line mainly.

[DiehardChris]

Hadnot leaving Houston without deal. Headed to Cleveland, doesn't sound likely we sign him....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5584464.html

I just saw this on Chron.com... crap. Sure sounded like this was a done deal yesterday. I guess the Texans were counting on his desire to return to Houston overriding the financial aspect. Oh well.

[12gage]

darn... that would have been a good pickup.

[DiehardChris]

Now the Chronicle is reporting that we didn't even offer him a deal. What the heck? Something weird going on there.

LINK (http://blogs.chron.com/gamedaytexans/2008/03/rate_the_texans_in_the_opening.html)

[DiehardChris]

I'll tell you exactly why he wasn't offered a deal. He wants to come in and start..not compete for the position. Sorry but we are really stacked and poised for some good competition at Center this season and he would have made it just that much better. Sorry buddy.....If you Had-Not (hahaha..get it?) waltzed in here thinking you were tha schiznit to start and agreed to compete, you would have gotten an offer. Must be scared of a little competition if you ask me...I think Eslinger would have beat him out anyways IMO.

Oh, okay, I didn't realize you were there for the meetings. LOL. If that's the case, then yeah. No big loss.

[foozball]

is hadnot any good?

[edo783]

is hadnot any good?

Of the 32 starting centers he would probably be in the upper half......maybe.

[ObsiWan]

is hadnot any good?

This is what espn thinks...

2007 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 69 | Key (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/scouts/news/story?id=2996209)
Alert: None

Comment: Hadnot is a three-year veteran with good athletic ability for his size and position. He is a short, thickly-built player that has above average functional strength. He has enough power to stalemate larger interior defenders at the line of scrimmage. He can bend well but is inconsistent to anchor effectively versus explosive bull rushers. He is a steady effort player that can punch and wall off defenders but is not physically imposing. He uses his hands well and works his feet and body to gain leverage inside. Hadnot can snap and step well to make effective combo blocks but is not a dominant player. He has a good feel for the game as he is aware and reacts well to stunts and twists. He can slam and chip up to linebackers effectively and can make blocks on the second level. He is effective to mirror in a confined area in pass protection. He can pull and get on track to make blocks on the perimeter. Hadnot is a solid football player who is valuable because he is intelligent and versatile. He can be a productive player at guard or center.
:cool:

[ObsiWan]

this is what they said about Flanagan - I figure Hadnot is Flan's replacement unit....

2007 Scouting Report - Scouts Inc.
Grade: 65 | Key (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/scouts/news/story?id=2996209)
Alert: AD-

Comment: Flanagan is a 12-year veteran that was originally drafted in the third round out of UCLA by the Packers. After 11 years in Green Bay he was released and signed by the Texans prior to the 2006 season. He is an adequate athlete with good quickness and short speed. He is quick to get into his blocks after the snap and can make the reach block to either side in order to gain position. The problem is that he is a bit stiff and is a waist bender that struggles to sustain and adjust with the block after initial contact. He has good box quickness to pass block in a limited area and does a good job of staying on his feet. He is a good technician that gets a good fit with his hands and uses them to control and steer rushers away from the pocket. He is smart and aware and does a good job of directing the line as he comes up to the line of scrimmage. He is also quick to pick up stunts and twists when he is uncovered. As a run blocker he pretty much has to be a finesse blocker that just gets in the way as he does not have a lot of lower-body strength to root opponents out of the way. He has the quickness to get to the second level after the snap but does not do a great job of sustaining blocks as he tends to get a bit too high and can't adjust on the move well.

Hadnot seems like an upgrade to me. Maybe not a major upgrade, but still....

interestingly, there's no assessment of Steve McKinney

[GT]

I'll tell you exactly why he wasn't offered a deal. He wants to come in and start..not compete for the position. Sorry but we are really stacked and poised for some good competition at Center this season and he would have made it just that much better. Sorry buddy.....If you Had-Not (hahaha..get it?) waltzed in here thinking you were tha schiznit to start and agreed to compete, you would have gotten an offer. Must be scared of a little competition if you ask me...I think Eslinger would have beat him out anyways IMO.It really amazes me how bad some peoples memory loss is.Just two months ago everyone was singing praises about Eslinger and now it is like he doesn't even exist.Hadnot was being offered to come to camp and compete, geeezzz wake up people.Gibbs must have had doubts about Hadnot if they did not tender a deal or else he feels Eslinger will give him what he needs.