View Full Version : Warrick Dunn goes to Tampa
DiehardChris
03-02-2008, 11:30 PM
Story here. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/02/dunn.release/index.html)
Not only interested, but their writer says we're "the front runner."
...and I blogged about it on my site, if anyone cares.
In short, my thoughts - if we are still going after a YOUNG back this off-season, sure, go for it. If not... a HUGE no thank you.
ObsiWan
03-03-2008, 12:07 AM
Story here. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/02/dunn.release/index.html)
Not only interested, but their writer says we're "the front runner."
...and I blogged about it on my site, if anyone cares.
In short, my thoughts - if we are still going after a YOUNG back this off-season, sure, go for it. If not... a HUGE no thank you.
As much as I like Warrick Dunn the person, I'm not for signing him. Now if Atlanta wants to trade him straight up for Ahman Green (and take on Green's salary).... :D
TheLBCoach
03-03-2008, 12:11 AM
I can see it already....
"Warrick Dunn goes down with knee injury in Week 2...
Seems like deja vu for the Texans, because Ahman Green went down with a knee injury in Week 2 last season...."
I've had it with over-the-hill, has-been Running Backs in this town.
steelbtexan
03-03-2008, 12:20 AM
I'm not against it, Green plays 8 games Dunn plays 10 games & Chris Taylor Backing them up. I think I like it. Dunn has been injury free.
TheLBCoach
03-03-2008, 12:37 AM
I see what you're saying, but signing any RB with 6+ years of mileage on him is a big risk.
theyoungNwild
03-03-2008, 12:52 AM
Please God no more old farts in the backfield. Just when I thought that "Hey, we actually MIGHT get Mendenhall / Stewart." I just happen to hear that we are FRONT-RUNNERS for an 11 year old vet with barely anything left in the gas tank. If anything, and we aren't going with Mendenhall / Stewart in the draft, leave Green and Walker to take over and be a 1 - 2 punch. Heck Walker showed some razzle dazzle there at the end of the year.
Please for the love that is all Holy and Just.....no more old farts!!!!
outofhnd
03-03-2008, 02:00 AM
Maybe this is a coaching hire? :D
HydrOshocK
03-03-2008, 02:06 AM
you've got to be kidding. :(
will742
03-03-2008, 02:28 AM
The Texans have better things to use their FA money on. Draft a fresh pair of legs so that there won't be another RB controversy in the near future.
DiehardChris
03-03-2008, 02:29 AM
I read somewhere (maybe it was this same article) that he would be a third-down, pass-catching type back - but I can't imagine he'd sign anywhere for third-down back money. Isn't that what Walker is supposed to be?
I'm not totally sold on Walker, but it's hard to push him out the door for an elderly man, even if he has been healthy for all or most of his recent career.
I'm thinking that Dayne is gone. If so, getting Dunn would put our depth chart like this?
1. Green
2. Rookie or FA acquisition
3. (primarily a 3rd down, pass-catching back) Dunn
All that said - I don't think we'll get him. After the massive failure of the Green signing, I just can't see management pulling the trigger... even if he is just a situational player.
SuperstarII
03-03-2008, 03:10 AM
Story here. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/02/dunn.release/index.html)
Not only interested, but their writer says we're "the front runner."
...and I blogged about it on my site, if anyone cares.
In short, my thoughts - if we are still going after a YOUNG back this off-season, sure, go for it. If not... a HUGE no thank you.
SI is just like BSPN when it comes to Houston teams.
Coach
03-03-2008, 06:15 AM
well you've got to give it to kube...he's living by the ole saying "if at first you dont' succeed try, try again with old runningbacks"
i'm fine with them picking him up for cheap just to add to the overall competition...but even if we sign him that doesn't change the fact that we need an everydown young stud at RB
Oh absolutely it is and I don't want a Dunn, but from the article he has ties to Gibbs ala Green to Sherman. I want a young, stub back that I enjoy watching for years to come and as a fan, if the Texans don't take a Stewart or Mendenhall @ #18, it very well could be the Mario vs Bush fiasco all over again, especially if both go on to run for 1000+ yards that year....
I second that. Take your pick of either back. I think McFadden will slip like Peterson did last year IMO. Plus, I want everyone to think of this, everyone is knocking Darius Walker for being small via height and weight, so what is Warrick Dunn at this stage of his career?
SuperstarII
03-03-2008, 07:40 AM
I second that. Take your pick of either back. I think McFadden will slip like Peterson did last year IMO. Plus, I want everyone to think of this, everyone is knocking Darius Walker for being small via height and weight, so what is Warrick Dunn at this stage of his career?
I don't mind Darius Walker at all being our backup guy or maybe even a starter. I just personally think we need one more good running back and we are set.
Rosstafarian
03-03-2008, 09:45 AM
Only the last sentence is really interesting:
Dunn would like to play for a contender, which would make the Cowboys attractive. But Houston likely would be the front-runner for his services because of his success under Gibbs and the belief that the Texans are a team on the rise.
BIG ERN
03-03-2008, 09:51 AM
you've got to be kidding. :(
I hope they are joking.
BMT TEXAN
03-03-2008, 10:15 AM
I dont know fellas, picking up Dunn for dirt-ball cheap, might not be so bad & still address RB one 1st day of draft. Dayne may or may not be back, C. Taylor if healthy will beat out D. Walker in TC, Green will be Green, our young stud being brought alnog nicely & add Dunn versatility on certain plays here & there. This could be very interesting & I think PRODUCTIVE!!
AllOrange
03-03-2008, 10:27 AM
I'd take him, if Atlanta would give up some pick(s) to us to take him off their hands.
AllOrange
03-03-2008, 10:41 AM
Opps, never mind. Dunn released. Hey, if we got him for the minimum, maybe I would be less disappointed if we signed him. At best, if we must sign him, it should be for 1 year, little to no guaranteed money, with mostly incentives. As long as we get a home run hitter from the draft. Perhaps Dunn can mentor the young RBs?
Per profootballtalk.com:
WARRICK GETS HIS WISH
A day after signing running back Michael Turner to a long-term deal, the Atlanta Falcons have parted ways with veteran tailback Warrick Dunn.
The team has announced that Dunn has been released. He reportedly asked to be let go after Turner was acquired.
"Warrick Dunn holds himself to the highest standards of the National Football League," said Falcons owner Arthur Blank in a team-issued release. "His contributions, not only to the Falcons but to the entire NFL both on and off the field, have been well documented. The legacy he leaves in Atlanta will be long-remembered and appreciated by his fellow players, fans and the community. In my mind, Warrick will always be part of the Falcons family. At times like this our hearts are heavy, but the nature of the game sometimes requires making these kinds of decisions, however difficult they are for all of us. I wish Warrick continued great success in his future endeavors."
Perhaps better known for his time in Tampa, Dunn actually spent one more season with the Falcons.
He instantly becomes a free agent, and he may sign with any other team.
Dunn, who last week was named the inaugural recipient of our Joe Delaney Award, has rushed for 10,179 yards and has more than 4,000 receiving yards. He was named the NFL's Walter Payton Man of the Year in 2004. B
Because Dunn spent much of his first five NFL seasons splitting touches with Mike Alstott in Tampa, Warrick still has plenty of tread on the tires. Moreover, he would immediately infuse a high amount of character into any NFL locker room.
If we were running the show for any of the other 31 NFL franchises (and fans of each of those teams should thanks the Heavens every moment of every day that we aren't), we'd sign Dunn right now.
Texan Naija
03-03-2008, 10:42 AM
I don't mind our current older RBs but picking up another one is loco. Heck it is POCO LOCO!
While I don't have any hope for Mendenhall to be around at the 18th (and I hear he is the one the Texans really want) there are still bound to be plenty of quality young RBs throughout the draft. Not to mention if all four of our current backs are healed and ready to go, they could make for a potent combination.
This might be something of a Gibbs move where he is bringing in someone used to his playing style to help along other players, but I can't say if the Texans picking him up is making me all that excited.
BMT TEXAN
03-03-2008, 10:53 AM
Him being released is just what i mean bout getting him dirt-ball cheap.
coachdent
03-03-2008, 11:02 AM
If Ahman Green were not on our roster, I think picking up Dunn would not be that outrageous a move. It would not even be a question actually...you do it. But with a healthy Green...or rather...a "healthy" Green, it seems that Warrick muddies the waters a bit.
I am not as high on Taylor as others and obviously folks think we need another back because it seems unanimous that we all expect to see a back drafted. Dunn puts off the pursuit of a major headlining back another season as we address needs at offensive line and defensive back. Dunn and Green are your 1,2 punch with Dayne picking up the short yardage work. I honestly don't have a problem with that at all for another year.
TexansMVP
03-03-2008, 11:07 AM
Could this be an Alex Gibbs move? I would rather draft a young rb, but if we do pick him up, I could definitely see us go after a cb in the 1st then.
cbnjwill
03-03-2008, 11:23 AM
why?
Dunn and Green are your 1,2 punch with Dayne picking up the short yardage work. I honestly don't have a problem with that at all for another year.This may be more reality than most on this board want to realize.It looks as if we are going after defense again this year.I am starting to think Kubes believes he can get by with the backs already on hand and if this is the case then Dunn might be added to the mix.Lets not forget if we had stayed healthy on the offensive side of the ball several of our loses would have been wins.
kcwilson
03-03-2008, 11:35 AM
...if the Texans don't take a Stewart or Mendenhall @ #18, it very well could be the Mario vs Bush fiasco all over again, especially if both go on to run for 1000+ yards that year....
I am for taking a RB as well, I take more issue with the Mario vs. Bush fiasco comment.
Correct me if I am wrong, but don't most people like how that little fiasco turned out? How about we trust the coaches and front office some more?
El Tejano
03-03-2008, 12:03 PM
Let's talk about what Warrick Dunn could do for us more than state the obvious - his age.
Warrick Dunn is still a very valid threat when on the field. What we lacked last year were TD makers and Warrick Dunn is just that. He can move the chains and teams do have to respect him when he is on the field. Is he Warrick Dunn of old, maybe not but he still has been very good on a bad team.
done88
03-03-2008, 12:17 PM
lets see replace Dayne with Dunn. Yea sounds real bad. Give me a break if Dunn is willing to come here, we would be better with him on the team. I would like to see Dunn, Green, and Walker handle all the RB duties next year.
BIG ERN
03-03-2008, 12:19 PM
Dunn was released.Good thing we won't be giving up any more picks.
Armor For Sleep
03-03-2008, 12:23 PM
lets see replace Dayne with Dunn. Yea sounds real bad. Give me a break if Dunn is willing to come here, we would be better with him on the team. I would like to see Dunn, Green, and Walker handle all the RB duties next year.
Exactly. If we sign Dunn, that means Dayne's days are done. Green, Dunn, and Walker/draft pick will split carries. We most likely won't have a "featured" back this coming season.
rush2112mn
03-03-2008, 01:34 PM
I think we should not worry about picking up Dunn...
You have Green and Dayne....
Taylor will be back this year....
Walker will be back and ready to go....
You draft another rb in 1st or 3rd round......you are set.....
Bringing Dunn in would only be advised if you were going to release Green.....which I don't think will happen.....unless you get him at league minimum...which I doubt that happens......plus you are still paying Green some money too.....
Coach
03-03-2008, 01:38 PM
adding him wouldn't be a bad thing...he's gonna come cheap...he's not a long term contract by any means...he would be a lot like keenan mccardell was last year...simply there to add to the overall competition...a veteran who can show the younger kids how it's done and best of all what playing with heart is all about...because like him or not...warrick is all heart....and that's never been in questioned
I think we should not worry about picking up Dunn...
You have Green and Dayne....
Taylor will be back this year....
Walker will be back and ready to go....
You draft another rb in 1st or 3rd round......you are set.....
Bringing Dunn in would only be advised if you were going to release Green.....which I don't think will happen.....unless you get him at league minimum...which I doubt that happens......plus you are still paying Green some money too.....Dayne is a FA
Armor For Sleep
03-03-2008, 03:03 PM
So it looks like we're interested in bringing in Dunn, but not Dayne.
The Texans are interested in bringing in veteran running back Warrick Dunn for a visit.
Dunn, 33, was released today by Atlanta. In three of his six seasons with the Falcons, Dunn played for Alex Gibbs, the Texans' assistant head coach who is installing the same running game he used in Denver and Atlanta.
In three seasons (2004-06) with Gibbs, Dunn rushed for 1,106, 1,416 and 1,140 yards. Last season, Dunn carried 227 times for 720 yards and scored four touchdowns. He also caught 37 passes for 238 yards.
It looks as if the Texans aren't going to re-sign Ron Dayne, meaning the Texans are looking for a veteran back to replace him. They still plan to draft a running back.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/5588112.html
Clamp
03-03-2008, 03:10 PM
On NFL.com we are not listed as one of the teams interested in Dunn now that he has been released. It said he was looking to join up with a playoff contender. I personally consider us playoff contenders next year, but i think maybe we werent listed on the list b/c maybe the writers didnt consider us contenders.
It does say that there are atleast 3 teams interested but only names 2 so we could easily be that 3rd team.
http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story;jsessionid=3543BCE1D7BC199968074235115872D7? id=09000d5d807007f7&template=with-video&confirm=true
"According to NFL Network's Adam Schefter, Dunn plans to sign with a playoff contender. At least three teams already are eyeing him, including possibly Tampa Bay and Indianapolis. Dunn spent the first five seasons of his career playing for Tampa Bay, and his head coach with the Bucs was current Colts head coach Tony Dungy."
Armor For Sleep
03-03-2008, 03:18 PM
I may be off on the numbers, but I read (from infantrycak) that we could save $3.8M if we cut Green after June 1st. Dunn may be a replacement for Green while we target someone in the draft.
66cobra
03-03-2008, 03:20 PM
Well, if we are not bringing back Dayne then I guess it's ok to replace him with Dunn who has rushed for over 1000+ yds every time he played for Gibbs...BUT, I hope it's for only a year so we can dump both him and Green at the end of next season. All signs now IMO point to us getting a RB in the 3rd round instead of the 1st. If that's the case I hope it's Smith or Forte.
While I agree with you about the "signs pointing to us getting a RB in 3rd", I hope that is not the case if Mendenhall or Stewart drop to us. There are not a whole lot of 'complete' backs in the draft...guys like J. Charles is a case in point...he is a very fast back with good hands but is not really built to take an NFL pounding being an every down back even though he was a everydown back for Texas (NFL is diff. than NCAA). But again...maybe Smith and Kubes surprises us this year...
Towlie
03-03-2008, 03:47 PM
It could a good thing because dunn was the RB in gibbs last stop at the falcons soo.... yeah
AllOrange
03-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Hmmm...A backfield of Dunn, Walker and/or Taylor, and the draft pick. Works well enough for me.
3andOUT
03-03-2008, 04:47 PM
The Texans have better things to use their FA money on. Draft a fresh pair of legs so that there won't be another RB controversy in the near future.
I trust RS enough to believe that he wouldn't overpay for Dunn....so I think their are worse things to spend free agent money on. And I would LOVE a running back controversy! That would mean we have at least two good backs instead of none like we have had for the majority of the past two years.
Vincesanity10
03-03-2008, 05:45 PM
Sorry i'm not savvy enough to post links, but looks like several teams are "interested"...he'd work well with Lendale!!!
Titans show interest in Dunn
By PAUL KUHARSKY • Staff Writer • March 3, 2008
The Titans have expressed interest in running back Warrick Dunn, who was released Monday by the Falcons after they signed free agent Michael Turner.
Dunn’s agent, Jim Steiner, said the Titans “have expressed an interest but I don’t know where it’s going. … I think they are going to meet and talk about it and get back to me.”
Steiner said “quite a few” teams had expressed interest in Dunn and ranked the Titans as an “interesting” possibility.
Dunn rushed for 720 yards in 2007, with an average of 3.2 yards a carry, as the Falcons endured the legal troubles of quarterback Michael Vick and saw Coach Bobby Petrino quit to go back to the college ranks before the season ended.
But in 11 seasons, the 32-year-old Dunn has been a two-way threat for Tampa Bay and Atlanta, carrying 2,483 times for 10,186 yards and 47 touchdowns, and pulling in 463 catches for 4,009 yards and 15 more scores.
If the Titans judge him still capable, he could be the sort of change-up, third-down back they’ve sought and fit in well with LenDale White and Chris Henry.
Reach Paul Kuharsky at 259-8024 or pkuharsky@tennessean.com.
Texan Naija
03-03-2008, 07:23 PM
Frankly I'd prefer Dayne if he could return at a reasonable rate. Dayne is a short yardage back but he wears down the defense, he is younger and last year had a better season stats wise.
If we do pick up Dunn and lose Dayne, that seems most likely a Gibbs call in order to get someone who knows the Gibbs system. It also probably means that we will be picking up a RB in the draft capable of being a power back and either Taylor or Walker will be released down the line.
wildroot
03-03-2008, 07:55 PM
Maybe the plan is to float these old warhorses in every year, year in and year out until we can pick up a keeper in the lower rounds of the draft. Remember, Kubes and Gibbs system supposedly doesn't require a franchise back to be succesful.
That'll buy us time while we build the rest of the team through the higher rounds of the draft.
Works for me I guess.
BIG ERN
03-03-2008, 07:56 PM
I will pass
I think anyone talking about dayne being cut is crazy. He and Kubes are little love babies. I love him too.
It should be a love triangle. He's a beast when healthy and wears a defense down like no other.
TexSid
03-03-2008, 09:08 PM
I don't see Dunn coming here for the money we would pay him. Unless Green is still hurt we are unlikely to cut him. His contract is not huge but the problem is that the Texans won't know by draft day if he is healthy again. His injury was really hard to understand and as usual the Texans never seem to tell the truth about the severity of injuries. I don't want Dunn if Green is healthy (unless he were to come cheap) but he will command some decent money.
dalemurphy
03-03-2008, 09:18 PM
I don't see Dunn coming here for the money we would pay him. Unless Green is still hurt we are unlikely to cut him. His contract is not huge but the problem is that the Texans won't know by draft day if he is healthy again. His injury was really hard to understand and as usual the Texans never seem to tell the truth about the severity of injuries. I don't want Dunn if Green is healthy (unless he were to come cheap) but he will command some decent money.
Money isn't the issue, the issue is having enough roster spots. Kubiak only wants to keep 3 RBs on the roster, so there isn't room for two guys in their 30s... You have to assume CTaylor will take one spot, a rookie will take one, and then you still have a decision to make about Darius Walker.
Durant35
03-03-2008, 09:22 PM
Money isn't the issue, the issue is having enough roster spots. Kubiak only wants to keep 3 RBs on the roster, so there isn't room for two guys in their 30s... You have to assume CTaylor will take one spot, a rookie will take one, and then you still have a decision to make about Darius Walker.
Why would you think Chris Taylor would get a spot? What has he done?
Nothing. Darius Walker deserves that spot more than he does.
The Chris Taylor hype is not deserved after one game. Im not saying Darius Walker is great but he carried the rock for the team when we needed someone to step up.
All Taylor has shown is he knows how to get injured.
You have to assume CTaylor will take one spotWhy is that? He would not have taken one this past year before he was injured. They were going to try and make him into a fullback. If any assuming was done it would still be that plan.
Clamp
03-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Why would you think Chris Taylor would get a spot? What has he done?
Nothing. Darius Walker deserves that spot more than he does.
The Chris Taylor hype is not deserved after one game. Im not saying Darius Walker is great but he carried the rock for the team when we needed someone to step up.
All Taylor has shown is he knows how to get injured.
And he didnt endear himself to Kubiak by fumbling the ball when given a chance to play. It was probably just bad timing and shear chance that he did it on his first series, but first impressions are hard to shake. especially if you can't go out there and prove him wrong.
ObsiWan
03-03-2008, 10:11 PM
And he didnt endear himself to Kubiak by fumbling the ball when given a chance to play. It was probably just bad timing and shear chance that he did it on his first series, but first impressions are hard to shake. especially if you can't go out there and prove him wrong.
Do you guys recall when the NFL Network spent a day with the Texans at OTAs? Kubiak told Taylor, on camera, that if he took better care of the ball he could have a "long career in this league".
And I recall, during those same OTAs, that Taylor was the fastest and best looking back of the bunch - Ahman Green included.
Kubiak will give Taylor a shot to see if he's healed and if he has stopped fumbling.
TexSid
03-03-2008, 10:16 PM
I certainly agree that we will probably not carry 4 RBs on the 53 man roster but we are a LONG way from that decision. It is hard to imagine having Green/Dunn/Walker/Taylor (assuming no rook) but injuries happen in camp and you definitely have 5-6 guys in camp.
ObsiWan
03-03-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh absolutely it is and I don't want a Dunn, but from the article he has ties to Gibbs ala Green to Sherman. I want a young, stub back that I enjoy watching for years to come and as a fan, if the Texans don't take a Stewart or Mendenhall @ #18, it very well could be the Mario vs Bush fiasco all over again, especially if both go on to run for 1000+ yards that year....
I dunno. If we get a shutdown CB or a ball-hawking FS, I'll live with that choice.
But then, I prefer building a stout defense rather than grabbing "flavor-of-the-month" pretty boys like Reggie Bush or Brady Quinn.
but that's just me.
I dunno. If we get a shutdown CB or a ball-hawking FS, I'll live with that choice.
But then, I prefer building a stout defense rather than grabbing "flavor-of-the-month" pretty boys like Reggie Bush or Brady Quinn.
but that's just me.From what the FO has shown so far I believe we are going defense first again this year.I have always believed in a strong defense.If the offense had not been riddled with injuries last season we would have won a few more games and quite possibly hit paydirt for the first time.
jxjx999
03-03-2008, 10:38 PM
I certainly agree that we will probably not carry 4 RBs on the 53 man roster but we are a LONG way from that decision. It is hard to imagine having Green/Dunn/Walker/Taylor (assuming no rook) but injuries happen in camp and you definitely have 5-6 guys in camp.
Don't forget that Taylor fits on the roster as a fullback behind Leach.
TexFan2005
03-03-2008, 11:22 PM
There it is Fans the caption of the year! We sign Dunn for 1year. Draft Defense and maybe 1 Offensive Lineman and were set for 08.
This also sets us up nicely for the future. We aren't going to the Super Bowl this year. We might make the Playoffs but probably won't get out of the first round.
In 09 though we can Draft our RB of the Future. We will have a solid defense and after 1 year under Gibbs our (OL) WILL KNOW WHAT THEY DOING.
This just might be the best thing we can do for the Teams Progress.
Just think Peyton Manning will be a year older and a year slower by (09) and Shaub or Rosenfells will be a Year Smarter and more expierenced.
Vince will still be Vince (can run but can't pass). The Jags well they might be the Team that we have to beat to win our division in (09). They have a very good Defense and Fairly good offense. Thank God they don't have our WR or they might just be Super Bowl Bound in 08.
"Defense wins Championships" Perfect Example Da G-Men
demeco59
03-04-2008, 09:17 PM
Texans | Team wants to meet with Dunn
Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:43 -0800
John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are looking to meet with free-agent RB Warrick Dunn (Falcons).
Personally I think this would not be a good move because he is going to be another Ahman Green
Texans | Team wants to meet with Dunn
Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:43 -0800
John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are looking to meet with free-agent RB Warrick Dunn (Falcons).
Personally I think this would not be a good move because he is going to be another Ahman GreenDay late and a dollar short my friend.
http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=5807
Texans | Team wants to meet with Dunn
Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:43 -0800
John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are looking to meet with free-agent RB Warrick Dunn (Falcons).
Personally I think this would not be a good move because he is going to be another Ahman GreenGT walks to wall and bangs head repeatedly...till he finally passes out and leaves the board. :eek:
BIG ERN
03-04-2008, 09:39 PM
Texans | Team wants to meet with Dunn
Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:43 -0800
John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are looking to meet with free-agent RB Warrick Dunn (Falcons).
Personally I think this would not be a good move because he is going to be another Ahman Green
ew!!!
Towlie
03-04-2008, 10:00 PM
NO frickin' way!!! Now finally we have a Runningback to take handoffs from our new QB either Carr or Joey who ever we pick and run behind toni boselli!!!
scottsdaletexan
03-04-2008, 10:59 PM
say no to dunn, look for a RB to develop in the draft. our RB by committee last year got the job done for cheap
HydrOshocK
03-04-2008, 11:34 PM
First I've heard of it. Wow that could be a really good deal for us! If we pick up Dunn thin our back field will look like this and then we can draft.......
**gunshot**
DiehardChris
03-04-2008, 11:35 PM
First I've heard of it. Wow that could be a really good deal for us! If we pick up Dunn thin our back field will look like this and then we can draft.......
**gunshot**
LOLOLOLOL
Oilers2Texans
03-04-2008, 11:42 PM
First I've heard of it. Wow that could be a really good deal for us! If we pick up Dunn thin our back field will look like this and then we can draft.......
**gunshot**
ROFLMAO!!!! Thanx for the laugh.:D
Texan Naija
03-05-2008, 01:00 AM
First I've heard of it. Wow that could be a really good deal for us! If we pick up Dunn thin our back field will look like this and then we can draft.......
**gunshot**
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
**grabs HydrOshock's body**
Who HydrOshock? Who was it you were going to say!?
**THUNDER**
***HOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL***
HydrOshocK
03-05-2008, 03:07 AM
:p:p
HydrOshocK
03-05-2008, 03:09 AM
Texans | Team wants to meet with Dunn
Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:43 -0800
John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are looking to meet with free-agent RB Warrick Dunn (Falcons).
Personally I think this would not be a good move because he is going to be another Ahman Green
Sorry about the drama. Seriously though, if we did bring in Dunn I would hope he wouldn't be as big of a disappointment.
SuperstarII
03-05-2008, 06:08 AM
Texans | Team wants to meet with Dunn
Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:43 -0800
John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are looking to meet with free-agent RB Warrick Dunn (Falcons).
Personally I think this would not be a good move because he is going to be another Ahman Green
So does that mean Ahman Green is done????
So does that mean Ahman Green is done????Who knows about Green...but this thread is done.By the way HydrO glad to see you only shot yourself in the foot.:D
DiehardChris
03-05-2008, 11:17 AM
I'm a lot more okay with this than I was when it first hit the news, because I don't think it changes our strategy in the draft. Dunn is old, but he has held up well in the last few seasons. I'd be okay with Dunn, Green, the drafted rookie, and who ever wins the battle between Walker/Taylor (hoping for Taylor).
I still like Derrick Ward. We'd only have to give up a 7th for it if we sign him. Then we could just use the entire draft to load up for secondary, LB, OL, and DL.
daynebum
03-05-2008, 11:32 AM
With the possiblity of signing Dunn...He's a bonafide vet, he has no real significant knee injuries, he ran wild behind Gibbs system, and he can still play. You Got Darius Walker and Chris Taylor who can learn from this guy. Dont forget Arliss Beech is till on the roster, exactly who?...yeah he's the next olandis gary. When will u guys get it, you dont need no flashy, high totuted rb to run in this system. ala Denver Broncos..climton portis wasnt even a 1st round pick. Dayne will get signed back, there's ya highly touted heisman top 10 pick..so what its 9-10yrs later..He's still reliable and can get the job done..The texans will still Draft a rb too... i like Ray Rice in the 3rd...so just breathe easy fellas...the rb's aren't the problem......is that o-line intact yet?
Dunn/Green
Dayne
Walker
Taylor
Beech
draft pick(ray rice)
daynebum
03-05-2008, 11:44 AM
With the possiblity of signing Dunn...He's a bonafide vet, he has no real significant knee injuries, he ran wild behind Gibbs system, and he can still play. You Got Darius Walker and Chris Taylor who can learn from this guy. Dont forget Arliss Beech is till on the roster, exactly who?...yeah he's the next olandis gary. When will u guys get it, you dont need no flashy, high totuted rb to run in this system. ala Denver Broncos..climton portis wasnt even a 1st round pick. Dayne will get signed back, there's ya highly touted heisman top 10 pick..so what its 9-10yrs later..He's still reliable and can get the job done..The texans will still Draft a rb too... i like Ray Rice in the 3rd...so just breathe easy fellas...the rb's aren't the problem......is that o-line intact yet?
Dunn/(Green?)
Dayne
Walker
Taylor
Beech
draft pick(ray rice)
daynebum
03-05-2008, 11:45 AM
i posted it 2wice
daynebum
03-05-2008, 11:47 AM
Dayne is more than likely not going to return.
I personally would feel much better like this:
Stewart or Mendenhall
Taylor
Walker
Beech
Cut Green in June.
C'mon reality check..Dayne is coming back..why isnt he...What has he done not to come back..he's been the most releiable and servicable back for the past 2 years....Sorry but kubes/smith/gibbs dont draft 1srd backs...So get over it.
outofhnd
03-05-2008, 11:50 AM
Well THey havent sent any communication Dayne's way
Walker got a contract
So as it stands now keep in mind taylor is he back up FB if I am not mistaken.
RB
Green
Dunn
Walker
FB
Taylor
Leech
daynebum
03-05-2008, 11:52 AM
They did the same thing year. Nothing new. He'll be signed closer to the end of the month, early april, trust me...always happens.
johndoe
03-05-2008, 11:56 AM
keep in mind if the texans sign dunn it will probably wont be a backbreaking contract. imo the more guys they bring in the better....let everyone battle it out in camp and let the best 3 win
ib4texans
03-05-2008, 12:04 PM
Another Ahman Green? Really? You do know Dunn hasn't been injured for 5 years now right? I mean you did do your research before posting right? This guys is still a servicable back and can catch out of the backfield. I wouldn't mind seeing him and the rookie they draft and just let Green go...
He missed some time in 07 because of back problems, he didn't start for the first half of the season and didn't have a 100 yard game until very late in the season. He's a scrappy little guy, but I think he's not going to be very durable.
bckey
03-05-2008, 12:14 PM
I still like Derrick Ward. We'd only have to give up a 7th for it if we sign him. Then we could just use the entire draft to load up for secondary, LB, OL, and DL.
I agree with you about Derrick Ward. He comes cheap and proved last year that he could play and he is young. He did get injured but so have all of our backs. I hope Chris Taylor can finally get his shot but who knows.
DiehardChris
03-05-2008, 12:17 PM
I like Taylor too. I think if both are healthy, Taylor beats Walker out. I'm guessing the Giants wouldn't match any offers for Ward since Ahmad Bradshaw showed he's a capable #2 and possibly even the perfect compliment to Brandon Jacobs for a one-two RB attack.
outofhnd
03-05-2008, 12:20 PM
Maybe they are signing him so him and ahman can play checkers on the sidelines while they nurse their injuries.
coachdent
03-05-2008, 01:02 PM
Well THey havent sent any communication Dayne's way
Walker got a contract
So as it stands now keep in mind taylor is he back up FB if I am not mistaken.
RB
Green
Dunn
Walker
FB
Taylor
Leech
How is Taylor above Leach? Leach is with an "A" by the way... How is Taylor a fullback?
daynebum
03-05-2008, 01:08 PM
Blah, blah, blah...I think you just don't want to have to change your name on the boards. I also think you might need to wipe the smudges off your crystal ball Nostradomus.:rolleyes:
u funny bad Neo...Change my name? for what...this name has made its mark in Texan history, it will always stand...i think you need to take a look into my crystal ball and see. The texans will not draft a rb in the 1st rd.
Wolverine
03-05-2008, 01:08 PM
How is Taylor above Leach? Leach is with an "A" by the way... How is Taylor a fullback?
yeah Taylor not a FB. According to Kubes in an interview on the radio one day he said he expects Taylor to contend for the starting RB job. They expect a lot of good things out of him.
yeah Taylor not a FB. According to Kubes in an interview on the radio one day he said he expects Taylor to contend for the starting RB job. They expect a lot of good things out of him.Taylor was working out at FB to make him more valuable for a roster spot.
outofhnd
03-05-2008, 01:58 PM
Ok im doing this as my boss walks by frequently so I am not taking alot of time to check for spelling errors or any of that. My second point was is that they put Taylor as a FB to carry more RB prospects. just because he is on the roster as a FB doesnt mean hell play as a fullback. It was a move to get more RB on the roster. Heck Jameel was a FB but he never lined up as a FB in a game he was a RB
infantrycak
03-05-2008, 02:27 PM
Heck Jameel was a FB but he never lined up as a FB in a game he was a RB
Jameel played as a FB until he was injured and then beaten out of his job by Leach. He did play some at FB last year in spot duty. The only reason he played at RB was injury.
outofhnd
03-05-2008, 02:56 PM
They could still do that with Taylor just to have more active runners on the roster.
buffalo2006
03-05-2008, 07:01 PM
I like Warrick Dunn, one of those tiny backs that can make quick cuts. Also I am a seminole fan and I have his college jersey.
Texan Naija
03-06-2008, 11:09 AM
Well THey havent sent any communication Dayne's way
Really?
That is a shame, Dayne without a doubt has been the franchises most consistent and best RB. And compared to the other RBs we have he is unique in being a proven powerback. I mean he has played well for us even when injured throughout the season and really started to gain more yards once we found someone to split his possessions with and we switched out of Sherman's system.
Me, I liked the Dayne train and hope that it comes back to Houston for another year or two, but if Kubiak and Smith decide otherwise, I hope they know what they are doing.
coachdent
03-06-2008, 11:27 AM
Ok im doing this as my boss walks by frequently so I am not taking alot of time to check for spelling errors or any of that. My second point was is that they put Taylor as a FB to carry more RB prospects. just because he is on the roster as a FB doesnt mean hell play as a fullback. It was a move to get more RB on the roster. Heck Jameel was a FB but he never lined up as a FB in a game he was a RB
Jameel played as a FB until he was injured and then beaten out of his job by Leach. He did play some at FB last year in spot duty. The only reason he played at RB was injury.
I would appreciate it if we could refrain from using the name of the thing that once played fullback here. That monster is hopefully put in a place far far away.
Putting Taylor as a FB does not "save" a roster spot. He isn't a fullback. We have one fullback on our roster and hopefully will either pick up another one or move one of our tight ends to a more traditional H-back mode, motioning and leading ala the Washington Redskins.
Once again...do NOT refer to that....that...that...person again!
Macaronitoni
03-06-2008, 01:18 PM
I'm a little suprised he hasn't made a decision yet. He visited a team a few hours after being cut and already had his teams figured out. Seemed he was in a hurry to get off the market.
I dont really want him nor do I think he's slightly interested in us anyway. We might be a team on the rise, but he saw first hand last year we aren't that good....
OF course thats his perspective cuz we did play pretty bad against the falcons.
El Tejano
03-06-2008, 02:06 PM
After the season he just went through, do you balme him if he wants to go to a team that is a SB contender? At this point in his career?
Steelersfan1693
03-06-2008, 03:36 PM
Why do we want Warrick Dunn
Towlie
03-06-2008, 03:40 PM
Why do we want Warrick Dunn
Ok... this is confusing... i have no idea if you are talking about the TEXANS!!! or the steelers:D
shockermgd
03-07-2008, 03:50 PM
Why dont they trade sage for chestor tayler, or maybe look at julius jones. Someone with some legs that runs hard. Anything is better than what we got. Dayne is a good backup but hes to old to carry the load and Green is done, out of gas.
headsplint
03-07-2008, 04:04 PM
Why dont they trade sage for chestor tayler, or maybe look at julius jones. Someone with some legs that runs hard. Anything is better than what we got. Dayne is a good backup but hes to old to carry the load and Green is done, out of gas.
He has gas left, his problem is the tire keeps going flat.
HydrOshocK
03-07-2008, 04:08 PM
You know what this thread needs?
a mock draft and roster lineup breakdown?? ;)
HydrOshocK
03-09-2008, 08:23 AM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/030408dnspocowbriefs.2aed63a.html
Warrick Dunn is interested in the Dallas Cowboys, and the veteran running back is waiting to see if the feeling is mutual.
Dunn's agent, Jim Steiner, reached out to Dallas on Monday to gauge interest in his client, who was released by the Falcons earlier in the day. The Cowboys are taking a wait-and-see approach, preferring to see where the market for Dunn goes before making a serious move.
Pantherstang84
03-09-2008, 12:07 PM
Dunn's agent, Jim Steiner, reached out to Dallas on Monday to gauge interest in his client, who was released by the Falcons earlier in the day. The Cowboys are taking a wait-and-see approach, preferring to see where the market for Dunn goes before making a serious move.Translation: Too many miles and little tread left on the tires. Skeletor wants to give the Texans every opportunity to sign him to a ridiculous contract (Green) before picking him up for vet minimum.
coachdent
03-10-2008, 08:07 AM
Texans were initially thought to be rumored suitors for Mr. Dunn. Yet, I have not seen or heard anything concerning a visit to Houston or anywhere else for that matter.
For the right price, he would be an excellent asset to have in the backfield especially if we allow Dayne to walk. Deal one of our younger assets for a pick or two and allow Dunn and Green to carry the load next season.
Or perhaps leaving Dunn alone means that we look towards Mendenhall or Stewart. Thousands of scenarios for sure.
HydrOshocK
03-10-2008, 08:34 AM
He's currently exploring options with the Cowboys.
Wolverine
03-10-2008, 09:06 AM
CNNSI: Texans interested in Warrick Dunn .
Yeah but he's not interested in the Texans...
DiehardChris
03-10-2008, 06:52 PM
He signed with the Bucs. Per KFFL (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl).
So we can stop arguing about that. LOL
Durant35
03-10-2008, 07:06 PM
He signed with the Bucs. Per KFFL (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl).
So we can stop arguing about that. LOL
Thats the perfect place for him to go with all the injuries the Bucs have at Rb.
He signed with the Bucs. Per KFFL (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl).
So we can stop arguing about that. LOLPlease can't we have just one more arguement over Dunn before we let it go!!!!!!!!!:D
ObsiWan
03-10-2008, 07:58 PM
Please can't we have just one more arguement over Dunn before we let it go!!!!!!!!!:D
Okay. But make it quick.
:)
BIG ERN
03-10-2008, 08:04 PM
He signed with the Bucs. Per KFFL (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl).
So we can stop arguing about that. LOL
Yeee HAw!!!!
RichieVar
03-10-2008, 08:09 PM
Shouldn't this belong in the NFL section? Anyway good news for him.
Towlie
03-10-2008, 08:46 PM
What an *****
TheLBCoach
03-10-2008, 09:18 PM
He signed with Tampa Bay today.
Yo MedenhallFan tap into this (http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=5949).;)
WaldovonPutz
03-10-2008, 09:20 PM
Ditto. He was really pretty bad last year. Good speed and God bless.
DiehardChris
03-10-2008, 09:21 PM
Here are his contract numbers, per PFT
It’s a two-year, $6 million deal, and it pays $2 million in guaranteed money. Dunn is scheduled to earn $3 million in the first year of the deal.
That's... a lot of money for a 33 Y.O. who's not going to be the featured back.
Towlie
03-10-2008, 09:23 PM
Whatever happened to Carnell Williams??? Wasn't he the rookie of the year couple of years back...
playa465
03-10-2008, 09:39 PM
Whatever happened to Carnell Williams??? Wasn't he the rookie of the year couple of years back...
From wiki: Williams suffered a torn patellar tendon against Carolina which required surgery and ended his season. He is currently recovering from this injury and is expected to miss at least a portion of the 2008 NFL season.
willieg52
03-10-2008, 10:21 PM
I'm tired of old RB's as well. We should have by now learned our lesson.
12gage
03-11-2008, 12:13 AM
... in Tampa.
texans83
03-11-2008, 05:54 AM
I'm tired of old RB's as well. We should have by now learned our lesson.
Thats prob why we didnt sign him
Little D
03-11-2008, 05:59 AM
Let's get a young rb so we don't have to talk about this again next year.
headsplint
03-11-2008, 06:22 AM
Yo MedenhallFan tap into this (http://boards.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=5949).;)
He has to start new posts even though it's blatantly obvious he should put it in the original thread. Just to make sure. :rolleyes:
daynebum
03-11-2008, 09:23 AM
He signed with Tampa Bay today.
Dunn wouldve been a good fit. He wanted Big $$$ though, and i highly doubt that Smith wouldve gave him what tampa did...And u might as well Scratch Mendenhall off the list too, it's not gonna happen.
outofhnd
03-11-2008, 09:32 AM
People who say we arent drafting a RB in round 1, Don't say it won't happen till the commissioner announces it on draft day. ANYTHING can happen between now and then
daynebum
03-11-2008, 11:05 AM
People who say we arent drafting a RB in round 1, Don't say it won't happen till the commissioner announces it on draft day. ANYTHING can happen between now and then
Given Kubes/Gibbs/Smith Track record, it has never happend. Why would they go against what they been proven to the league year in/out. when u got guys like Olandis Gary runnin like a superstar in this offense, it's silly to draft a rb in the 1st rd. Terrel Davis was a 6th rd pick, ya know......there are other posiitions that needmore of a fill than rb...look for a rb in the 3rd. preffably Ray Rice
infantrycak
03-11-2008, 11:10 AM
Given Kubes/Gibbs/Smith Track record, it has never happend. Why would they go against what they been proven to the league year in/out.
Ask Kubiak, because that is exactly what he tried to do in his very first draft for the Texans.
daynebum
03-11-2008, 11:31 AM
Ask Kubiak, because that is exactly what he tried to do in his very first draft for the Texans.
And what happend? did he draft a rb? why didnt he? Even with all the hype about Bush/Young, and what was expected of Reg Bush, They still didnt draft a rb 1st rd...with the 1st pick..Until they do it, i'll beleive it.
infantrycak
03-11-2008, 11:36 AM
And what happend? did he draft a rb? why didnt he? Even with all the hype about Bush/Young, and what was expected of Reg Bush, They still didnt draft a rb 1st rd...with the 1st pick..Until they do it, i'll beleive it.
Not Bush--DeAngelo Williams. Kubiak offered Chicago (#26) our 2nd and 4th round picks to move back up into the 1st to take DeAngelo Williams ahead of Carolina. Buffalo out bid us by offering their 2nd and 3rd. I am glad the trade didn't go down because that would have been Ryans and Daniels, but point remains Kubiak has no philosophical problem with taking a RB in the 1st.
DiehardChris
03-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Not Bush--DeAngelo Williams. Kubiak offered Chicago (#26) our 2nd and 4th round picks to move back up into the 1st to take DeAngelo Williams ahead of Carolina. Buffalo out bid us by offering their 2nd and 3rd. I am glad the trade didn't go down because that would have been Ryans and Daniels, but point remains Kubiak has no philosophical problem with taking a RB in the 1st.
I've never heard that... it certainly doesn't sound like something a team that was completely rebuilding from scratch would do... they must have seen something in Williams that blew their doors off.
BIG ERN
03-11-2008, 03:15 PM
Not Bush--DeAngelo Williams. Kubiak offered Chicago (#26) our 2nd and 4th round picks to move back up into the 1st to take DeAngelo Williams ahead of Carolina. Buffalo out bid us by offering their 2nd and 3rd. I am glad the trade didn't go down because that would have been Ryans and Daniels, but point remains Kubiak has no philosophical problem with taking a RB in the 1st.
Do you think he would take Marhawn Lynch(Buffalo) over Amobi if he could do it again?I think he would have gone after Patrick Willis if he could do it all over.
infantrycak
03-11-2008, 03:21 PM
Do you think he would take Marhawn Lynch(Buffalo) over Amobi if he could do it again?I think he would have gone after Patrick Willis if he could do it all over.
Hard to know, but I think they were perfectly happy with what they got from Okoye last year. Kubiak talked before the season about how rough it was for rookies to last through the season and 5.5 sacks for a DT is a pretty darn good year for a vet. LB is a much easier transition than DT--let's see how it looks after year 2.
Wolverine
03-12-2008, 01:10 PM
Signed w/Bucs the other day. Off the market...
3andOUT
03-12-2008, 03:05 PM
No biggie, the only way I want Dunn is for dirt cheap. We need another aging back on a fat contract like I need another hole in my head. I wasn't opposed to bringing him in, but it had to be for the right price and I didn't think that was all that likely
TheLBCoach
03-12-2008, 03:10 PM
No biggie, the only way I want Dunn is for dirt cheap. We need another aging back on a fat contract like I need another hole in my head. I wasn't opposed to bringing him in, but it had to be for the right price and I didn't think that was all that likely
Warrick Dunn signed with Tampa Bay a few days ago guys.
3andOUT
03-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Warrick Dunn signed with Tampa Bay a few days ago guys.
Yaaah, I read that on the post directly above my previous. Thanks though, sorry to show up so late. If a thread has become defunct, erase it or lock it because I think it seriously upsets some people on these boards
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