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rex king
05-15-2007, 01:11 AM
Paul Oliver, Georgia also seems to be ranked up there, but I haven't seen enough of him to comment.

Two guys who deserve consideration are
Justin King, Penn State - True Jr. Needs to be more physical and make more plays on the ball, but is like glue with great speed. Shut down Ted Ginn and Robert Meachem.

Jack Ikegwonu, Wisconsin - Redshirt Jr. All around CB with very good speed. Does it all. Arrested for trying to steal an X-box with his brother.

foozball
05-15-2007, 01:49 AM
paul oliver held calvin johnson to like 2 catches last year i think. granted, reggie ball sucks and the georgia DE's are 2 of the best in the country, but i think thats worth mentioning.

TiredofSuffering
05-15-2007, 09:40 AM
Don't take this the wrong way, but it's time for you guys to give up on needs analysis heading into the draft.

Last year we had just signed Weaver, we had traded the ranch and all the tractors for Babin, we had a broken wing at tailback, no OL, and a hometown QB staring us in the face, and we managed to take defensive end.

This year we are trotting out 3 slower than average nickle-backs (two at safety, one at corner) in the secondary and the left-overs other teams didn't want on the OL, and we still took our 129th straight DL with our #1 pick.

You'll be happier and less shocked/depressed if you don't analyze the team's needs, and just read the net the next day to see who we got. That's my plan this year. It doesn't matter how obvious a choice is, or how great the player is at the position we need, we're going to make the "look, we're smarter than you" move every time.

brandon420tx
05-15-2007, 10:25 AM
The Babin thing wasn't last year, and yes, they are smarter then us, but when has that ever stopped our MB from playing Keyboard GM?
Just as well, I want to see how this season turns out before I even bring the thought of "biggest need" into my head.

outofhnd
05-15-2007, 10:48 AM
Don't take this the wrong way, but it's time for you guys to give up on needs analysis heading into the draft.

Last year we had just signed Weaver, we had traded the ranch and all the tractors for Babin, we had a broken wing at tailback, no OL, and a hometown QB staring us in the face, and we managed to take defensive end.

This year we are trotting out 3 slower than average nickle-backs (two at safety, one at corner) in the secondary and the left-overs other teams didn't want on the OL, and we still took our 129th straight DL with our #1 pick.

You'll be happier and less shocked/depressed if you don't analyze the team's needs, and just read the net the next day to see who we got. That's my plan this year. It doesn't matter how obvious a choice is, or how great the player is at the position we need, we're going to make the "look, we're smarter than you" move every time.

I can see your POV, I don't like looking at these draft need threads when he havent played the 07 season to really have an accurate analysis of our teams needs. However at this point we can say Defensive Line should not be one of them. I think the only reason we again went DL because he was the best player available at the #10 spot.
Keep in mind as much as it would have been the cat's meow to select Vince Young and let him play for our hometown, Our defense was old up the middle. We have had like no real pass rush. So we have worked to resolve it. I think we will again improve a lil bit this year.

TiredofSuffering
05-15-2007, 06:21 PM
The Babin thing wasn't last year, and yes, they are smarter then us, but when has that ever stopped our MB from playing Keyboard GM?
Just as well, I want to see how this season turns out before I even bring the thought of "biggest need" into my head.


I wasn't saying that the Babin thing was last year, I was saying that last year, after we had just traded all those picks for Babin and signed Weaver, that we spent our draft pick on a DE.

Maybe my syntax wasn't clear, but the point was that given what we had already done (to wit, signing Weaver, trading for Babin, etc.) we shouldn't have taken a DE LAST YEAR.

foozball
05-16-2007, 12:00 AM
thats like saying detroit shouldnt have taken johnson this year. if babin sucks, and if mario was truly the highest rated on our board, then why not pick a DE?

TiredofSuffering
05-16-2007, 09:22 AM
Throwing good money after bad.

Here's why:

1. Weaver cost us a fortune.

2. Babin cost us 4 picks.

3. Keeping the #1 pick to draft a DE was going to cost us two firsts and a 4th.

So, we had two choices going into the draft:

1. Wait and see if Babin panned out under Kubiak, and if we really felt like we needed another DE, take one late like the Chicago Bears did with Mark Anderson (whose year was 200% better than Mario's).

2. Keep the #1 pick and have a FORTUNE tied up in defensive ends, and a grand total of 7 potential draft choices.

I think the Williams pick was stupidity, and spending another pick on the DL at the expense of trading down (AGAIN) or getting help elsewhere was foolish.

So, my point in this discussion was that irrespective of gaping holes, when we get a burr up our ***, we scratch it.

Zagen30
05-16-2007, 09:38 AM
Throwing good money after bad.

Here's why:

1. Weaver cost us a fortune.

2. Babin cost us 4 picks.

3. Keeping the #1 pick to draft a DE was going to cost us two firsts and a 4th.

So, we had two choices going into the draft:

1. Wait and see if Babin panned out under Kubiak, and if we really felt like we needed another DE, take one late like the Chicago Bears did with Mark Anderson (whose year was 200% better than Mario's).

2. Keep the #1 pick and have a FORTUNE tied up in defensive ends, and a grand total of 7 potential draft choices.

I think the Williams pick was stupidity, and spending another pick on the DL at the expense of trading down (AGAIN) or getting help elsewhere was foolish.

So, my point in this discussion was that irrespective of gaping holes, when we get a burr up our ***, we scratch it.

Here's one problem with the theory of trading down: No one wanted to trade up with us, or at least weren't going to offer us enough to make it worth our while (certainly not 2 1sts and a 4th as you assume). The Saints were almost definitely going take Mario if Bush went #1, so we really couldn't have dropped to any slot below ours without missing on him. We would have had to have gotten a truckload of picks (think Eli Manning trade truckload) to make it worth out while to pass on Mario, and no one was willing to pony up that much for Bush.
I'll admit that I was surprised that we took Mario, seeing as how we had just signed Weaver, but Mario's ceiling is so much higher than Weaver's that it's scary. Weaver is at best an okay 3-4 DE or 4-3 SDE, good at tying up blockers and occasionally getting a sack. Mario, on the other hand, could be the next great SDE, great against the run and the pass and really instilling fear in opposing QBs.
Don't bring up Mark Anderson, or Elvis Dumervil either for that matter. Both of them are pass-rush specialists who play on the weak side, on obvious passing downs only, and who have much better defenses around them. Plus Mario was coming into his own, as evidenced by the 5-game stretch with 4 1/2 sacks, and then developed the plantar fasciitis (unless you're lamont under a different name and believe that he wasn't inured and that everyone in the Texans organization made it up to excuse his lack of sacks).
Babin was the old regime's mistake (although I'll give him one more year to prove that he wasn't a mistake, like it or not he did lead the team in sacks while having to sit behind Peek for a good portion of the season), you can't blame Kubiak for wanting to get better at a weak position (and DE was weak at the time).
And those 7 draft choices turned out to be so devoid of talent, didn't they?[:P]

beerlover
05-18-2007, 11:42 AM
Throwing good money after bad.

Here's why:

1. Weaver cost us a fortune.

2. Babin cost us 4 picks.

3. Keeping the #1 pick to draft a DE was going to cost us two firsts and a 4th.

So, we had two choices going into the draft:

1. Wait and see if Babin panned out under Kubiak, and if we really felt like we needed another DE, take one late like the Chicago Bears did with Mark Anderson (whose year was 200% better than Mario's).

2. Keep the #1 pick and have a FORTUNE tied up in defensive ends, and a grand total of 7 potential draft choices.

I think the Williams pick was stupidity, and spending another pick on the DL at the expense of trading down (AGAIN) or getting help elsewhere was foolish.

So, my point in this discussion was that irrespective of gaping holes, when we get a burr up our ***, we scratch it.

next years draft could be over pretty quickly for you - TiredofSuffering. I count at least 7 defensive lineman senior eligible for the draft who could all be 1st rd. picks. meaning when the Texans pick is up the best player available just might be another DE or DT. maybe then you'll get your chance to trade down, sucks that you have to wait almost a full year to find out [{]

beerlover
05-18-2007, 11:56 AM
Here are the top CB prospects in the 2008 NFL Draft. CB is currently the Texans' #1 need heading into the draft.
Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State - best playmaking CB in the country
Aqib Talib, Kansas - if he breaks out this season, he'll be a lock for a Top 15 pick. Very physical and loves to hit.
Jonathan Hefney, Tennessee - played CB last season, so versatility is his strong suit. He may be drafted as a FS.
Antoine Cason, Arizona - a little overrated for my taste, but many people are in love with this guy

If we were able to land Malcolm Jenkins or Aqib Talib in Round 1, I would absolutely love it.

I'm not a big Cason fan I think he's overrated as you say, but my favorite going into the 07 season is DeJuan Tribble out of Boston College. I prefer the cb who specializes in man to man coverage, your shutdown corner if you will, these guys are usually the shorter, compact, quick-burst types & if your lucky a playmaker as well, which I have a good feel that DeJuan could be. I think he had something like 7 ints returning 3 for tds against top flight competition in the ACC (Maryland, Florida State & Miami). as we speak less than one week into ota's he is my pick for the Texans 1st rd. in 08.

Hoth-Boy
05-18-2007, 05:09 PM
Paul Oliver is going into the Supplemental Draft...worthy of a 3rd round pick?

foozball
05-18-2007, 11:08 PM
i have a feeling someone will use a 2nd on him.

doct3rj
05-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Well SI.com has Aqib Talib (Underclassman) | CB, Kansas | as the top corner for the 2008 draft.