Mike Mayock needs to realize we had no #2

[ib4texans]

Mayock is persistant in saying that in his mock draft (which was very accurate for the most part for picks 1-20) he didn't have Brown going until the third round. Well Mike we're real sorry that we made your hit ratio go down. We wanted an LT, we have Gibbs whom is better judge of O-line talent than virtually anyone. We had no 2nd round pick and didn't want to risk waiting for 3 regardless of your mock draft placement of Brown. I like Mayock for the most part but dude, please do a little research and quit complaining that we didn't follow your rule of thumb.

[outofhnd]

yea and he also had Mendenhall going to the Lions

[greedimidi]

who cares what mayock thinks. he is a TV analyst, not a coach or a gm. he isnt even an nfl team employee. all he does is get paid to run his mouth. i will ride with whoever our coaching staff and gm think is best for our football team. i am willing to bet mayock knocked us when we took mario over reggie. how did that pan out? we need to unite and have faith with our front office so that we can all cheer for our beloved team with one voice rather than listen to these so called draft analyst that have no clue what they are saying. shoot, mel kiper still has the same haircut since 1995. is that who you want to base your draft class on? if they were that good and actually know what prospects is best for whatever team, the wouldnt be working for espn or nfl network, they would be on someones coaching or scouting staff somewhere in the nfl.

for the real texans fans out there. look at the NE patriots. they have been the most successful NFL franchise in the past decade. they are known for making breath taking and controversial moves during the drafts. they passed on keith rivers (most analysts had him going to NE) and took mayo. yet every NE fan i know never questions what belicheat and his coaching staff do. they just ride with it and cheer for their team. good things are starting to happen for us. we need to unite and cheer, and stay positive for our team. remember the comeback game against the titans last season? i blame nobody but we fans for our loss that day. and believe it or not, that game might have cost us a playoff berth. we were getting smashed for three quarters and the fans gave up on their team and started leaving the stadium. by the time we actually took the lead late in the fourth, three quarters of our fans had left the stadium. and when the team needed their fans to be loud for one last stance on defense to close the game, there were only about 10 people left in the stadium to cheer. on the titans last drive, we had 'em on 4th and long, kerry collins actually audibled out of the play his coaches called bcos he noticed the one on one coverage d-rob had on roydell williams and he made the play. if everyone was still left in the stadium, the noise would have affected that very audible and hence affected the play that beat us. lets unite. our team needs us. the time is now. stop the negativity. lets stay positive and cheer for our team rather than criticize their every move. lets leave that to the tv analysts....at least they get paid to do that. GO TEXANS! LETS KICK 'EM IN THE MOUF!

[motivationalSPKR]

who cares what mayock thinks. he is a TV analyst, not a coach or a gm. he isnt even an nfl team employee. all he does is get paid to run his mouth. i will ride with whoever our coaching staff and gm think is best for our football team. i am willing to bet mayock knocked us when we took mario over reggie. how did that pan out? we need to unite and have faith with our front office so that we can all cheer for our beloved team with one voice rather than listen to these so called draft analyst that have no clue what they are saying. shoot, mel kiper still has the same haircut since 1995. is that who you want to base your draft class on? if they were that good and actually know what prospects is best for whatever team, the wouldnt be working for espn or nfl network, they would be on someones coaching or scouting staff somewhere in the nfl.

for the real texans fans out there. look at the NE patriots. they have been the most successful NFL franchise in the past decade. they are known for making breath taking and controversial moves during the drafts. they passed on keith rivers (most analysts had him going to NE) and took mayo. yet every NE fan i know never questions what belicheat and his coaching staff do. they just ride with it and cheer for their team. good things are starting to happen for us. we need to unite and cheer, and stay positive for our team. remember the comeback game against the titans last season? i blame nobody but we fans for our loss that day. and believe it or not, that game might have cost us a playoff berth. we were getting smashed for three quarters and the fans gave up on their team and started leaving the stadium. by the time we actually took the lead late in the fourth, three quarters of our fans had left the stadium. and when the team needed their fans to be loud for one last stance on defense to close the game, there were only about 10 people left in the stadium to cheer. on the titans last drive, we had 'em on 4th and long, kerry collins actually audibled out of the play his coaches called bcos he noticed the one on one coverage d-rob had on roydell williams and he made the play. if everyone was still left in the stadium, the noise would have affected that very audible and hence affected the play that beat us. lets unite. our team needs us. the time is now. stop the negativity. lets stay positive and cheer for our team rather than criticize their every move. lets leave that to the tv analysts....at least they get paid to do that. GO TEXANS! LETS KICK 'EM IN THE MOUF!

Sounds like a mixture of (Bluto's speech on Animal House) and (William Wallace's freedom speech off of Braveheart)....

F-R-E-E-D-O-M !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Texian]

Just because someone disagrees with you is not a reason to dismiss them. Mayock, played the game, watches as much tape or more than the scouts, GM's and coaches.

Mayock could very well be right about Brown. What you hear today is Brown will not start next and needs time to learn because he is raw and inexperienced. Starting to sound like a 3rd RDer to me.

[greedimidi]

Sounds like a mixture of (Bluto's speech on Animal House) and (William Wallace's freedom speech off of Braveheart)....

F-R-E-E-D-O-M !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


that was from the heart homie! Seattle superbowl run was 60% team play and 40% loud fans. our team needs us for real.

[ib4texans]

Who's dismissing him? I just wish that he would realize we had no second rounder and were not willing to risk waiting till mid third. I think that he's just ruffled because we didn't follow his schedule.

[greedimidi]

Just because someone disagrees with you is not a reason to dismiss them. Mayock, played the game, watches as much tape or more than the scouts, GM's and coaches.

Mayock could very well be right about Brown. What you hear today is Brown will not start next and needs time to learn because he is raw and inexperienced. Starting to sound like a 3rd RDer to me.

on that grounds, mayock is in no position to agree or disagree with our picks. he might watch all the tape he wants but he doesnt know what our scheme requires in players like our coaches do. he is basing his analysis on the general point of view. but really, its not like that. not every player fits our scheme. "what is poison for peter may be food for paul" and thats really how it is. we were gonna get brown @ 18 anyway. he was the best available player on our board. it wasnt a reach by any stretch of imagination. we traded down, got slaton and barber and still got our guy. that was genius if you ask me. sure we woulda liked to have chris willams, ryan clady or branden albert but they were all gone by 18. yes, mendenhall was available but they werent gonna use the first pick on a running back. i trust our guys. kiper and mayock and mcshay could kiss my a**!

[motivationalSPKR]

that was from the heart homie! Seattle superbowl run was 60% team play and 40% loud fans. our team needs us for real.

I know... I didn't say that I disagreed with what you said.... I was just joking around....

[greedimidi]

I know... I didn't say that I disagreed with what you said.... I was just joking around.....

i know you were....its ironic that your screen name is motivationalSPKR. that shoulda been your post. you got me doing your job........i guess.

[Exascor]

Who's dismissing him? I just wish that he would realize we had no second rounder and were not willing to risk waiting till mid third. I think that he's just ruffled because we didn't follow his schedule.No offense, but do realize how silly that logic is? If we seriously took a player we had rated as a low 2nd round - high 3rd round player with a first round pick because "we weren't willing to risk waiting till mid third" for him, Smith and whoever else made the pick should be fired.

That said...I don't think it was too much of a reach to pick Brown late in the first. Mayock does. Big deal...

[Jwwillis1]

Just because someone disagrees with you is not a reason to dismiss them. Mayock, played the game, watches as much tape or more than the scouts, GM's and coaches.

Mayock could very well be right about Brown. What you hear today is Brown will not start next and needs time to learn because he is raw and inexperienced. Starting to sound like a 3rd RDer to me.

This is what all the so called experts said about Amobi last yr. "He is too young and inexpierenced." "Offensive linemen are going to eat him up for lunch!" And they were WRONG!

They were WRONG about Reggie Bush.
They are WRONG a lot!

[ib4texans]

No offense, but do realize how silly that logic is? If we seriously took a player we had rated as a low 2nd round - high 3rd round player with a first round pick because "we weren't willing to risk waiting till mid third" for him, Smith and whoever else made the pick should be fired.

That said...I don't think it was too much of a reach to pick Brown late in the first. Mayock does. Big deal...




The logic is in the fact that Mayock not the Texans had him slated as 3rd round. In the first post on this thread, I stated that Gibbs is enough of an authority for me to trust his pick. Mayock just won't let it go though, everytime the talking heads interview and some say that we did a good job in the draft he disagrees with the Brown pick. He needs to allow that we had no 2nd and that we gained a 3rd and 6th as well as Brown.

[aj.]

I'm sure he was disappointed that the Lions, Panthers and Cowboys passed on his boy Mendenhall too, but what does it really matter? I like listening to Mayock but none of the Heads are going to be right 100% of the time. I chuckle to myself just thinking about what Rick Smith or Gary Kubiak (or Gibbs) would say to the comment 'but Mike Mayock said..."

[Texian]

The logic is in the fact that Mayock not the Texans had him slated as 3rd round. In the first post on this thread, I stated that Gibbs is enough of an authority for me to trust his pick. Mayock just won't let it go though, everytime the talking heads interview and some say that we did a good job in the draft he disagrees with the Brown pick. He needs to allow that we had no 2nd and that we gained a 3rd and 6th as well as Brown.

You could also say there is logic in the thinking that the Texans should have traded up and took one of the Top 3 LTs who had more of a chance starting this next year and being that 10 year LT.

or there is logic in saying the Texans should have taken the Panther trade giving them two 1st RD picks next year. Then they could of taken one of the promising LTs in the class of 09, which may be better than the class of 08. You be the judge, 1. Michael Oher 2. Andre Smith 3. Ciron Black 4. Eugene Monroe 5. Phil Loadholt and 6. Alex Boone.

I like both options better than reaching for Brown. BTW with the 2nd RD pick from the Panthers trade you could draft Quentin Groves and with the 4th RD, maybe Slaton, or definitely Tashard Choice or Tony Hills were available.

[therealx9]

mayock was actually 99.9999% accurate during the draft.

[Erratic Assassin]

Mayock...didn't have Brown going until the third round...We had no 2nd round pick and didn't want to risk waiting for 3...

The way I see it is that Brown is supposed to fit our system. We need athletic linemen. Most teams are looking for something else. The truth is Brown probably wouldn't do well in a lot of other systems but Gibbs thinks he fits ours & that's all that matters.

You're exactly right about not having a 2nd round pick. We drafted for need this year & I'm okay with that. This is a need we've had since 2002 and it's about **** time we addressed it. It takes years for LTs to develop and if we don't get the process started now, when are we going to start it?

[Hound]

We didn't reach for Brown. San Diego was going to take him at 27. Reach means we could have taken him lower. As it turns out we maximized the first pick by trading lower and picking up two extra picks... and then we still took the player we wanted just in front of the next team that was going to take him.

There was a run on tackles in the first... what can we say?

[ReliantTexan]

You could also say there is logic in the thinking that the Texans should have traded up and took one of the Top 3 LTs who had more of a chance starting this next year and being that 10 year LT.

Guess what, Brown was a top three tackle on the Texan's board. You could also argue that he's the most athletic tackle in this draft. He fits well into our system unlike Long who many considered to be right tackle at the next level.

[HomeGrownTexan]

Just because someone disagrees with you is not a reason to dismiss them. Mayock, played the game, watches as much tape or more than the scouts, GM's and coaches.

Mayock could very well be right about Brown. What you hear today is Brown will not start next and needs time to learn because he is raw and inexperienced. Starting to sound like a 3rd RDer to me.

Well then you and Mike Mayock are wrong............sorry, but regardless if Houston drafts Duane Brown or not, geuss what... The guy still does NOT make it out of the first round.

http://www.nfl.com/videos;jsessionid=94B28A75E2A7F3B1289CFB4FC06CC4A7 ?videoId=09000d5d8081175f

hmmm Starting to sound like a 1st RDer to me.

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[dbruder44]

we need to unite and cheer, and stay positive for our team. remember the comeback game against the titans last season? i blame nobody but we fans for our loss that day. and believe it or not, that game might have cost us a playoff berth. we were getting smashed for three quarters and the fans gave up on their team and started leaving the stadium. by the time we actually took the lead late in the fourth, three quarters of our fans had left the stadium. and when the team needed their fans to be loud for one last stance on defense to close the game, there were only about 10 people left in the stadium to cheer. on the titans last drive, we had 'em on 4th and long, kerry collins actually audibled out of the play his coaches called bcos he noticed the one on one coverage d-rob had on roydell williams and he made the play. if everyone was still left in the stadium, the noise would have affected that very audible and hence affected the play that beat us. lets unite. our team needs us. the time is now. stop the negativity. lets stay positive and cheer for our team rather than criticize their every move. lets leave that to the tv analysts....at least they get paid to do that. GO TEXANS! LETS KICK 'EM IN THE MOUF![/QUOTE]


Greenmildi, I actually agree with you for once, there was 10 maybe 15K people in the stadium for that last drive, but amazingly it was still pretty loud, had we had 70K in the stadium, it would have been deafening and the Titans would not have made that drive. I have never been more disgusted in my whole life than I was with the 55k+ Texans fans that I have cheered with on day one, other teams Bad or not do not funnel out of the stadium like we Texans do, it is sad!

[lrm87]

We didn't reach for Brown. San Diego was going to take him at 27. Reach means we could have taken him lower. As it turns out we maximized the first pick by trading lower and picking up two extra picks... and then we still took the player we wanted just in front of the next team that was going to take him.

There was a run on tackles in the first... what can we say?

Exactly!!! Mayock was wrong...end of discussion!!!

[greedimidi]

Greenmildi, I actually agree with you for once, there was 10 maybe 15K people in the stadium for that last drive, but amazingly it was still pretty loud, had we had 70K in the stadium, it would have been deafening and the Titans would not have made that drive. I have never been more disgusted in my whole life than I was with the 55k+ Texans fans that I have cheered with on day one, other teams Bad or not do not funnel out of the stadium like we Texans do, it is sad!

for once? wow. and i really thought i was doing something. well i appreciate the support. lets kick some ********* a** TEXANS!

[dbruder44]

for once? wow. and i really thought i was doing something. well i appreciate the support. lets kick some ********* a** TEXANS!

Maybe two or three times, dude you are out there sometimes. I am ready to roll in 08, I will be leading the Charge and getting sections 611 and 612 loud representing GridIron Texas. I am the craziest CPA Texan Fan there is!!!!

[Texian]

Well then you and Mike Mayock are wrong............sorry, but regardless if Houston drafts Duane Brown or not, geuss what... The guy still does NOT make it out of the first round.

hmmm Starting to sound like a 1st RDer to me.

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Let's continue this discussion this time next year when things are more clear. Then you can tell me if you're still in love with Brown, would rather have Clady, Williams or Albert, or you would rather have Carolinas 1st RD pick.

Apparently you have higher expectations and a higher regard for Brown than I do at this time. I'm still skeptical of the 8.5 sacks Brown gave up last year in college. What does that translate to in the NFL. Brown is labeled as raw and inexperienced. I expect Rashad Butler to start before Brown. I don't consider Brown as the 2nd coming of Orlando Pace or Jonathan Ogden as many Brown Lovers do.

BTW wait until you see next years class of OTs, they could be much better than this years. This tells me the Texans do operate with some degree of tunnel vision.

[Buckle]

BTW wait until you see next years class of OTs, they could be much better than this years. This tells me the Texans do operate with some degree of tunnel vision.

Orrrr, Gibbs was like hey this kid from VT is exactly what we are looking for in a LOT for our zone blocking system. He is athletic, has quick feet and he can get to the 2nd level and take on the LB's, and to boot he is a lil bigger than most zone blocking linemen which is even a bigger plus. With that information in hand along with the information that yeah last year we cut back on the number of sacks and yes that did have something to do with the o-line but it also had to do with our qb's going through their reads faster and making the right decisions and getting the ball out of their hands. BUT our run game was still weak last year and I know we had injuries BUT that is no excuse. All in all I think the front office thought you know what we have 2 young cb's that we feel good about with Reeves & Bennett, Dunta will be back about half way through the season, we don't need to spend 1st round money on another CB. It doesn't surprise me either that we passed on a RB in the first round, look where Kubes comes from and what Gibbs has done his entire career as a coach, they make late round draft pick RB's look amazing, and thats because of the system that they run. They know if they can get a rb who will make his read, 1 cut and get to that open hole he because of the blocking system will get yards, it's as easy as that. LOT has been a sore spot for this team since day 1, and the front office knows this, I think it wasn't tunnel vision but more along the lines of we can't keep pushing this need back next year every year, at some point we need to address this. They liked what they saw with Brown, Gibbs gave his stamp of approval (which is enough for me), and they are playing for the playoffs next year, who knows where we will be drafting and even if any of those OT's WHO WOULD FIT OUR SYSTEM would be there when we draft. Why take that chance when we have a sure thing in front of us. Remember Spencer played OG in college and he came in and started from day 1 at LOT, sooo it's not out of the question to have Brown come in and do the same thing! I know the fans are mad about not drafting a DE but at the same time if we would have drafted one in the 1st round everyone would complain that we wasted another draft pick on the d-line in the 1st round for the 4th or 5th straight year. Weaver is coming back, there is still June 1st cuts and who knows maybe someone on the team will step up to the plate, plus like Rick Smith said they can't address everything in one draft. In my mind they did an excellent job with what they had, and this front office has yet to let us down in terms of FA or draft pick signings so until they start doing things like C&C lets trust them to do their jobs. They both came from Denver who knows how to draft and how to build a solid team, that is until Kubes and Smith left that is. Makes you wonder if Smith had more to do with the drafting when he was there then we all initially thought!!!

PS - Just a lil thought, if the Okam pick works out and he becomes the beast that he can be in the middle, you think that they could have Amobi drop some weight and shift him out to LE?? Prolly not, I would rather have a strong 3 man DT rotation with Amobi, Johnson & Okam.

[Matt_in_KW]

If he turns out to be a bust or dosen't play for 2yrs...ok maybe he was right.

If he plays at the start of the season or by mid season, and plays well. Then he was wrong.


Can't judge a guy till he steps on the feild. And where he had him listed is just a "educated guess" nothing more.

[HomeGrownTexan]

Let's continue this discussion this time next year when things are more clear. Then you can tell me if you're still in love with Brown, would rather have Clady, Williams or Albert, or you would rather have Carolinas 1st RD pick.

Apparently you have higher expectations and a higher regard for Brown than I do at this time. I'm still skeptical of the 8.5 sacks Brown gave up last year in college. What does that translate to in the NFL. Brown is labeled as raw and inexperienced. I expect Rashad Butler to start before Brown. I don't consider Brown as the 2nd coming of Orlando Pace or Jonathan Ogden as many Brown Lovers do.

BTW wait until you see next years class of OTs, they could be much better than this years. This tells me the Texans do operate with some degree of tunnel vision.

First of all, every pick in the draft isn't a sure bet. There were only a few tackles in the daft that fit our system and while Brown is going to need polishing he was the most athletic.

Second..........next year's tackle class doesn't come close to sniffing this years and guess what.......Kubiak and Smith KNEW that. So no, they weren't "operating with some degree of tunnel vision." They've already stated they don't expect to pick high next year and they certainly don't expect to pick high enough to grab a tackle of Brown's skill set. That shows me THEY THOUGHT AHEAD, they knew this was the year to actually get a legit LT in the bottom of the first.........next year the talent level drops off dramatically towards the end of the first.

[Texian]

First of all, every pick in the draft isn't a sure bet. There were only a few tackles in the daft that fit our system and while Brown is going to need polishing he was the most athletic.

Second..........next year's tackle class doesn't come close to sniffing this years and guess what.......Kubiak and Smith KNEW that. So no, they weren't "operating with some degree of tunnel vision." They've already stated they don't expect to pick high next year and they certainly don't expect to pick high enough to grab a tackle of Brown's skill set. That shows me THEY THOUGHT AHEAD, they knew this was the year to actually get a legit LT in the bottom of the first.........next year the talent level drops off dramatically towards the end of the first.

Don't let your bias, anger or lack of information get in your way of making a sound solid argument.

[wildroot]

There were only a few tackles in the daft that fit our system and while Brown is going to need polishing he was the most athletic.

I just don't buy this "fit our system" crap.
Dudes paid to block. It's not rocket science.

Taking someone who's been playing the position for a year is a bigger gamble than moving up and grabbing a true LT and adjust his game to "fit our system", or move down to a lower round and take a LT that may need some work. After all, we have Gibbs, right? I thought this guy came with a reputation of being able to turn a group of ordinary lineman into top line units.

[Pantherstang84]

I just don't buy this "fit our system" crap.
Dudes paid to block. It's not rocket science.

Taking someone who's been playing the position for a year is a bigger gamble than moving up and grabbing a true LT and adjust his game to "fit our system", or move down to a lower round and take a LT that may need some work. After all, we have Gibbs, right? I thought this guy came with a reputation of being able to turn a group of ordinary lineman into top line units.

You are correct we do have Gibbs? You don't buy the "system" concept? Guess what. Gibbs has developed a "system" and he has certain traits he looks for in offensive linemen. Apparently, Brown had all of the traits Gibbs was looking for. So Gibbs picks the guy out and the first thing the Texans are supposed to tell him is he can't have his guy? OOOOOOOk.

[wildroot]

No, Gibbs is a heck of a coach, no doubt. But as much as i wanted an O/L I felt like we "reached" for Brown. I would have rather filled another "need" position such as a CB in the 1st, someone who played the position their entire career and would probably start, then got Gibbs someone else to work with in a later round. Thats what he's know for right, turning ordinary players into something special. And yeah, why not say no to him? They prolly said no to the DB coach that wanted Cason.

But thats JMO. not shared by most I might add.

And Brown may turn into a monster, but Gibbs probably could have done the same with any number of players while allowing the team to fill another need.

Agian, JMO...

[Buckle]

No, Gibbs is a heck of a coach, no doubt. But as much as i wanted an O/L I felt like we "reached" for Brown. I would have rather filled another "need" position such as a CB in the 1st, someone who played the position their entire career and would probably start, then got Gibbs someone else to work with in a later round. Thats what he's know for right, turning ordinary players into something special. And yeah, why not say no to him? They prolly said no to the DB coach that wanted Cason.

But thats JMO. not shared by most I might add.

And Brown may turn into a monster, but Gibbs probably could have done the same with any number of players while allowing the team to fill another need.

Agian, JMO...

First off there are completely different types of o-linemen! All teams have a particular type of blocking style that they run and some players fit into that and some don't. Teams like Pittsburg, Cowboys, Cardinals run a more power blocking scheme that utilizes bigger players where speed isn't a necessity because players are responsible for a player. Now teams like Denver, Green Bay, and now the Texans look for more athletic/quick linemen because they are responsible for an area not a player. For the blocking to work all the players have to be at their area "zone" at the right time, thus the need for speed and not size! Pulling and cut blocks are also widely used, more so than other systems. A mauler like Leonard Davis would do horrible in this system but he is perfect for a powerblocking team.

2nd I am glad we didn't waste a 1st round pick on a cb! Robinson will be back, Bennett is a gamer and is a starter, we just paid Reeves and the coaches are high on his ability in our defensive system which runs more man-to-man coverage than the Cowboys who run more zone coverage, thus the lesser need at cb. Plus I think Moulden will surprisealot of people this year!

[HydrOshocK]

jeezus let it go already. http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/angry25.gif

[ObsiWan]

jeezus let it go already. http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/angry25.gif

LOL...
I'm with you.
I don't believe our own fans are nitpicking our draft

We traded down, acquired two additional picks, and got one of the brain-trust's targeted linemen. And I'm counting Chris Myers as part of this draft since he was obtained with our original 6th rd pick. So that's TWO potential starters from this draft.
Wait, I'm not done.
We also got two DBs in this draft, a young, speedy RB, and added depth to our LB corps.

So all in all we addressed every need but speed rusher in this draft.

What's to complain about?

[HomeGrownTexan]

Don't let your bias, anger or lack of information get in your way of making a sound solid argument.

LMFAO.......why did you even bother posting this B.S., because that's actually what it is.....B.S.

I posted my argument, that had plenty of information in it.....just because you have no legit response doesn't mean you have to post B.S. just to have the last word or something.

Posts like this is why I hardly even bother posting on this board........this board went down the crapper, the real Texans message board is http://texanstalk.com/forums/index.php

[Jwwillis1]

Don't let your bias, anger or lack of information get in your way of making a sound solid argument.

The only thing solid in your argument is 8.5 sacks in in college. Yet you ignore the facts of Texans history with Spencer (OG) and Amobi (very young).

[therealx9]

LOL...
I'm with you.
I don't believe our own fans are nitpicking our draft

We traded down, acquired two additional picks, and got one of the brain-trust's targeted linemen. And I'm counting Chris Myers as part of this draft since he was obtained with our original 6th rd pick. So that's TWO potential starters from this draft.
Wait, I'm not done.
We also got two DBs in this draft, a young, speedy RB, and added depth to our LB corps.

So all in all we addressed every need but speed rusher in this draft.

What's to complain about?
obsiWon is wise :P

[ib4texans]

LOL...
I'm with you.
I don't believe our own fans are nitpicking our draft

We traded down, acquired two additional picks, and got one of the brain-trust's targeted linemen. And I'm counting Chris Myers as part of this draft since he was obtained with our original 6th rd pick. So that's TWO potential starters from this draft.
Wait, I'm not done.
We also got two DBs in this draft, a young, speedy RB, and added depth to our LB corps.

So all in all we addressed every need but speed rusher in this draft.

What's to complain about?

Agreed ! What's done is done.

[NBT]

Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak have meshed well and done a fantastic job of building this team back, after only two years. To come in and say that the way they used the first round not to our advantage is not buying in to what they have done. To add to that Brown was new coach Gibbs personnal choice for OLT. You can bet, if Kubiak says Brown is going to start, you can take it to the bank. Texian needs to have more faith in his Texans.