Mistake in the 2002 Draft?

[Hwood82]

From the SI vault.....

What If ... Draft
Clinton Portis | 51st overall in 2002, Denver Broncos
By selecting offensive tackle Chester Pitts at No. 50 in 2002, the expansion Texans missed a golden chance at landing a franchise back in their first year of existence. Six years later, Houston is still searching for Old Faithful


Can't say I knew that (or remembered, I'm getting old! :p)

[outofhnd]

I thought We took Jabar Gaffney 1 pick ahead of Portis not Pitts. That stings even worse.

[dbruder44]

We took Jabar Gaffney 1 pick ahead of Portis not Pitts. That stings even worse.

Special J is having a decent career, WR's are hard to pick

We picked that Bennie Japparu (SP) in front of Anquan Boldin of the Cards too!

[3andOUT]

Is having Portis all that more valuable than getting one of the only consistent pieces of your OL? Pitts has played every week since he came in the league, I don't look at it as a miss at all. Hindsight's always 20/20

[Hwood82]

Special J is having a decent career, WR's are hard to pick

We picked that Bennie Japparu (SP) in front of Anquan Boldin of the Cards too!

OUCH!!!!!!!

[Towlie]

Is having Portis all that more valuable than getting one of the only consistent pieces of your OL? Pitts has played every week since he came in the league, I don't look at it as a miss at all. Hindsight's always 20/20

You also have to know this... Pitts is not a top 10 guard... while portis IS A top 10 back... Speaking of, i would rather have pitts than portis, portis would have been a bust in houston... NO OLINE TO PLAY BEHIND

[ThaShark316]

I'll never forget that day...i was screaming at the tv when our first pick in the 2nd round was up...

PORTIS!!!

then again...no dice...i was sad that day lol.

[moses77550]

Yea that sucks, but then again who gives a @#%K...

[wrestler4life]

woulda...shoulda...coulda...

[greedimidi]

it happens. everybody passed on tom brady too in 2000. there's no way to tell who's gonna pan out and who's not. its part of the game.

[NBT]

I thought We took Jabar Gaffney 1 pick ahead of Portis not Pitts. That stings even worse.

Wrong....Gafney was in the draft before. I don't regret hav ing taken Pitts at all. The problem was Casserly and the front office didn't know their behind from a hole in the ground. 2003-2004 were wasted drafts with the exception on Andre Johnson. But you suck it up get good people like we have now in coach Kubiak and G.M. Rick Smith, who really know their stuff. We will get there. It just took longer than it should have.

[ubecool454]

Is having Portis all that more valuable than getting one of the only consistent pieces of your OL? Pitts has played every week since he came in the league, I don't look at it as a miss at all. Hindsight's always 20/20

Exactly what I was thinking. Portis would have never been able to be all that he could be behind the line we had back then. "Ain't-that-da-pitts is aight with me.

[robertcraft]

What if we would have been able to draft that receiver that went one pick ahead of Andre Johnson. Hind sight is 20/20.

[dbruder44]

What if we would have been able to draft that receiver that went one pick ahead of Andre Johnson. Hind sight is 20/20.

As long as Detroit is picking a reciever in front of you you are safe they will always take the wrong one, and they just keep repeating themselves. Calvin Johnson will be lucky to be mentioned with Andre in the same sentence.

[robertcraft]

As long as Detroit is picking a reciever in front of you you are safe they will always take the wrong one, and they just keep repeating themselves. Calvin Johnson will be lucky to be mentioned with Andre in the same sentence.

Thats ironic.

[Yosarian]

We picked that Bennie Japparu (SP) in front of Anquan Boldin of the Cards too!


Let's agree to never speak about this again...like that buffalo game.

:D
:rolleyes:
;)

[dbruder44]

Let's agree to never speak about this again...like that buffalo game.

:D
:rolleyes:
;)

Oh those two 50 yard bombs 80 yard TD's in the first quarter. We made that QB look like a halla fame and Lee Evans like Jerry Rice. I sit on the 20 and both pass plays came right towards me on my sideline, I just kept cringing while the ball was in the air!!!!

[aj.]

I wonder how many times this needs to be dredged up? 32 teams passed on Portis. Anyone can play hindsight police all day every day for the last 30 drafts and point out things like this every year for nearly every team. How many teams passed on Demeco Ryans? All of them.

[schaubisgod]

Is having Portis all that more valuable than getting one of the only consistent pieces of your OL? Pitts has played every week since he came in the league, I don't look at it as a miss at all. Hindsight's always 20/20

Perhaps, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Chester Pitts has contributed more to our team than Portis has to his. Pitts, despite being a great person off of the field, is a mediocre lineman.

[Erratic Assassin]

What If ... Draft
Clinton Portis | 51st overall in 2002, Denver Broncos
By selecting offensive tackle Chester Pitts at No. 50 in 2002, the expansion Texans missed a golden chance at landing a franchise back in their first year of existence. Six years later, Houston is still searching for Old Faithful


They could have had Julius Peppers instead of David Carr & we're still looking for an outside pass rusher.

[Erratic Assassin]

Casserly and the front office didn't know their behind from a hole in the ground. 2003-2004 were wasted drafts with the exception on Andre Johnson.

Casserly would have screwed that up too if Detroit hadn't taken Charles Rogers right before we got the 3rd pick.

[South Texan]

Mr. Moderator... please rename this thread "Opening Old Wounds" and close it before someone tries to defend the Carr pick.

[SamerElmir]

And in that draft with the 207th pick the Baltimore Ravens select.....RB Chester Taylor, anything can happen in the draft.

[RockNRoll!]

2002 and 2003 draft talk is soooooo fresh. :confused:

lets move on guys. the texans are not the only team that has botched on draft day. the NFL draft is such an inexact science. Lets try not to think "what if this and what if that." Lets think about right now. Right now, our football team is on the brink of being playoff contenders. I am happy with that for now.

[outofhnd]

You want to talk about passing on a guy the classic case is Pat Williams DT Minnesota. The guy was never even drafted 32 teams passed on him 7+ times. and on a whim Buffalo picked him up as a UDFA, no one else even put in an offer, now he is an all pro and one of the most sought after space eater run stuffers in the NFL. Wade Phillips, the man responsible for giving him his chance was asked last year if he thought he was a genius for pickin up this guy in the FA. Wade's reply "if I was a genius I would have drafted him"

[DGredRaider]

Mr. Moderator... please rename this thread "Opening Old Wounds" and close it before someone tries to defend the Carr pick.


David Carr is a leader, he may not make the best decisions or have the best arm, but when your in the huddle he can motivate! Isn't that a QB's main job?


Think about it for a moment...it sounds like another QB in our division;

VINCE YOUNG!

1. cant pass
2. horrible decision maker
3. cant scramble away from NFL defenders, especially in our division

a few years from now, DC and VY will be bagging groceries at your local HEB

[SuperstarII]

I am so glad the three C's are gone!

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_4.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNfox000)

[SuperstarII]

David Carr is a leader, he may not make the best decisions or have the best arm, but when your in the huddle he can motivate! Isn't that a QB's main job?


Think about it for a moment...it sounds like another QB in our division;

VINCE YOUNG!

1. cant pass
2. horrible decision maker
3. cant scramble away from NFL defenders, especially in our division

a few years from now, DC and VY will be bagging groceries at your local HEB:eek:

Do you remember some of the statements he has said? Those were no way indicating he was a leader.

[DGredRaider]

that was completely sarcastic, i was emphasizing that people always say, "well vince young is a leader, he runs the game so well"

when in the end that means just about nothing unless you have an arm, leg, or a brain

[coachdent]

OIC...please use the sarcastic smiley next time. :)
No sarcasm here... VY is not a good quarterback. He gravy-trained off of outstanding coaching in Tennessee that refused to allow him to lose games. Fisher put it upon his defense to win games, not Vince Young.

The Titans got him absolutely no help in the offseason either, so he will continue to dink and dunk and scamble around and miss every wide out more than eight yards downfield. QB guru Norm Chow saw the writing on the wall and did nothing to improve him.

Better than David Carr, but definitely happy VY or Reggie "God" Bush is not in Houston. I'm happy with our football team just the way it is.

BTW...my worst draft pick for the Texans is not the retrospective what coulda been pick of Clinton Portis. My biggest guffaw is the trading UP to grab Jason Babin. That still hurts my teeth to this day.

[SuperstarII]

OIC...please use the sarcastic smiley next time. :)

I miss that sarcastic smiley. :(

[3andOUT]

Perhaps, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Chester Pitts has contributed more to our team than Portis has to his. Pitts, despite being a great person off of the field, is a mediocre lineman.

I understand your point, but how valuable is a so called franchise back when he doesn't have any franchise holes to run through? Pitts, like Dayne, was maybe mediocre, but mediocre was all we had. But they came to play every single week.

My point is, I don't think going back and trading the Pitts pick for Portis generates into any more wins.