Darius Walker

[taylor90]

was the most productive rb on our time last year. (most yards per carry last year) is quite possibly loosing his spot on the roster to green,slaton,taylor,brown..i honestly hope they have open competition for rb 1st,2nd and 3rd between our 5 backs..when you think about it NONE OF THEM ARE SURE STARTERS green.brown and taylor all have durability issues, slaton is a rookie, and walker only had around 100 carrys.


do what you guys and gals do best. discuss

[Towlie]

IMO, He is more valuable than green is... well, green is worth more but... We need to keep him... I think the best way to go is cut Cook and put CT at FB, but cook is good in the special Teams... THank god im not the coach...

[taylor90]

yeah. i really hated to see dayne go, he wasnt great but he was always there. but Darius Walker imo has potential and a lot of it i dont remember what game it was but he and dayne shared carries. he was like 75 yards on 13 carrys. he looked really good but for some reason..after that game he only got like 3 a game..since we wont have open qb competition because of all the money invested in Schaub i fear we might not have an rb cometition and loose Walker because of the money invested in Green.

[CoogBull]

I'm looking forward to seeing Walker compete but I would be very surprised to see him start.

We have a lot invested in our RBs this year. Green is still the guy for the moment, though I do not know why, Brown is one of our suppossed big acquisitions this offseason so he will be given more than his fair chance to prove himself. The coaches love Taylor and Slanton has playmaker written all over him.

I see Walker starting the season on the practice squad and making a playing debut about October. That seems to be the time that we can expect Green and Brown to be out for the season with their normal injuries.

I like Walker. He showed a lot of potential last year. He will really have to prove himself to over come those who are ahead of him. Still, it is nice to have a little depth at the RB position.

[infantrycak]

One word--toast--well maybe three and add numbers game.

[HuttoKarl]

I'd say that if you're playing a game of "what have you done for me lately?", Taylor's the odd-man-out. He's coming off a serious knee injury, has really only had one good game vs the shotty Browns defense and other than that, hasn't done anything for this team in recent history.

I think calling Taylor a FB and letting the other four HB's split would be ideal. Green and Brown don't inspire me as guys who can stay healthy for a full season. Between them and Walker and Slaton, there won't be enough carries to go around.

[taylor90]

yeah im not hoping this happens but well my guess is either green or brown will go down early then walker might have his time to shine. since slaton is probably going to be our third down back.

if taylor is moved to full back that means we have two more capable fbs in leach and i just forgot his name....lol

[3andOUT]

I think 30 is getting released. You have 3 guys (CB, CT, DW) who have run effectively in a similar system and one rookie that you drafted because he fits into what we're trying to do. It saves us 4M to release him, and we're overcrowded in the backfield.

[moses77550]

I think 30 is getting released. You have 3 guys (CB, CT, DW) who have run effectively in a similar system and one rookie that you drafted because he fits into what we're trying to do. It saves us 4M to release him, and we're overcrowded in the backfield.

Very Doubtful. Kubs and Smith are high on the fact that he is healthy and "hungry". So expect seeing Green as the starter.

[Jwwillis1]

You cannot replace Greens expierence. There is something to be said about having a leader on the roster at RB. Why do you think we keep Bruener around? Walker can find the holes but doesn't have the break away speed or size we need in a starting HB. Slaton claims to have the size and strength but I doubt it. In Green/Brown/Taylor I trust.

[infantrycak]

Why do you think we keep Bruener around?

Because he is one of the best blocking TE's in the league still.

As an aside, he was on 610am this morning and was asked about Schaub in the huddle and he said you have to back it up to the locker room and that Schaub has a presence, dedication and commitment which make the players around him not want to let him down. Pretty good endorsement coming from a guy who has been around quite a few QB's.

[Jwwillis1]

Because he is one of the best blocking TE's in the league still.

As an aside, he was on 610am this morning and was asked about Schaub in the huddle and he said you have to back it up to the locker room and that Schaub has a presence, dedication and commitment which make the players around him not want to let him down. Pretty good endorsement coming from a guy who has been around quite a few QB's.

Not really the crux of my point. I agree leadership isn't the ONLY REASON we keep him around. I would venture to guess it's a big part of it. It's good to hear Bruener come out with that kind of endorsment. I'm hoping we don't harp on the Schuab leadership question again this year. I'm ready to leave topics like, Schuabs leadership, Marios vs Bush/VY and LT issues behind next year. I know, I know...GL with that.

[El Tejano]

I think if DW wants to make the team and see any good amount of carries, it really depends on how well Chris Taylor does. I think the better he does, the more likely you would see Walker make the team instead of anyone who gets injured.

However, I see some of these injuries being cured this season with all this competition. I think the message has been sent loud and clear.

[outofhnd]

Hard to say, Ahman really was not Kubiak choice as much as it was Sherman's. I think it all will play out this summer and they might move Taylor to FB in name only just to keep all the RB on their roster so we have some bodies if injuries occur. It sucks having to scour the waiver wire in week 9 of a season.

[Sportswriter79]

I hope that we focus on keeping some backs that haven't been fighting to recover from injuries. The problem with Green, Brown and Taylor is that each of them has had injury problems.

Something about the youth, speed and health of Slaton and Walker appeals to me...what about you?

[infantrycak]

I hope that we focus on keeping some backs that haven't been fighting to recover from injuries. The problem with Green, Brown and Taylor is that each of them has had injury problems.

Something about the youth, speed and health of Slaton and Walker appeals to me...what about you?

At least one of Green, Brown or Taylor has to get hurt for Walker to make the team.

[outofhnd]

At least one of Green, Brown or Taylor has to get hurt for Walker to make the team.

You don't think they name one a FBso we don't have to shop for an Echemendu again midseason? Wait I forgot about Slaton,.

So add Leach to the stable that gives us 6 backs for 5 holes. There has to be an odd man out. Is walker PS eligible again this year?

[infantrycak]

You don't think they name one a FBso we don't have to shop for an Echemendu again midseason? Wait I forgot about Slaton,.

So add Leach to the stable that gives us 6 backs for 5 holes. There has to be an odd man out. Is walker PS eligible again this year?

Should be--he was only on the active roster for four games.

$64k question is whether they will cut Cook and have Taylor as a swing guy or plan on just risking having only one FB.

[3andOUT]

You don't think they name one a FBso we don't have to shop for an Echemendu again midseason? Wait I forgot about Slaton,.

So add Leach to the stable that gives us 6 backs for 5 holes. There has to be an odd man out. Is walker PS eligible again this year?

What's it matter whether someone is labeled as a FB or a RB? It's not like there is a quota set for fullbacks. Just trying to understand your question.

[infantrycak]

What's it matter whether someone is labeled as a FB or a RB? It's not like there is a quota set for fullbacks. Just trying to understand your question.

It doesn't matter what you call them. The point is whether they feel comfortable using Taylor as an emergency FB so Cook can be let go. They gave him some reps there last year, but that doesn't mean they were impressed enough to think that is a viable option, but maybe they are comfortable enough and really want to keep another HB. We'll see.

If they keep three QB's this year, that is already one roster spot that has to come from somewhere.

[3andOUT]

It doesn't matter what you call them. The point is whether they feel comfortable using Taylor as an emergency FB so Cook can be let go. They gave him some reps there last year, but that doesn't mean they were impressed enough to think that is a viable option, but maybe they are comfortable enough and really want to keep another HB. We'll see.

If they keep three QB's this year, that is already one roster spot that has to come from somewhere.

I gotcha. I wouldn't think it would be that big of a deal to go with one FB. I hope nothing happens to VL but I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to find a FB to come in mid-season and get the job done. That being said, I seriously doubt under any circumstance that all of those backs make the team

[NJTexan]

SOLUTION =

Chris Taylor starts, Darius Walker spells him, and get Slaton in on some third downs, probably wont be many of those tho, anyway, CUT GREEN. TAKE THE HIT. YOU ****ED UP FRONT OFFICE, NOW GRIN AND BEAR IT.

[robertcraft]

I love that our team is getting so competitive. I remember in '06 we drafted 7 guys and started 6 of them on opening day.

[greedimidi]

SOLUTION =

Chris Taylor starts, Darius Walker spells him, and get Slaton in on some third downs, probably wont be many of those tho, anyway, CUT GREEN. TAKE THE HIT. YOU ****ED UP FRONT OFFICE, NOW GRIN AND BEAR IT.


i can't disagree with you more. NJtexan, i will remind you of your statement when green crosses the 1000 yard mark. i say that because training camp should be enough time to know if his knee would hold up. and if he makes it through training camp, (which i believe he would) then he'll be good to go thru the season. and if he even catches a whiff of 100%, he'll be back on top where he belongs amongst running backs in the nfl. to summarize, i believe he still got some more left in the tank. i am not just ready to give up on him yet. plus remember he wld be sharing carries with 3 other backs now which would keep him fresh.

[SuperstarII]

I think 30 is getting released. You have 3 guys (CB, CT, DW) who have run effectively in a similar system and one rookie that you drafted because he fits into what we're trying to do. It saves us 4M to release him, and we're overcrowded in the backfield.

All I have to say is if Steve Mickinney got released because of his knee then I believe Ahman Green should be released as well. Knee problems always stick around. Just ask DD/DW...

[SuperstarII]

At least one of Green, Brown or Taylor has to get hurt for Walker to make the team.

sure CT fan sure

Walker has more talent than Taylor. Just look at his college career.

[greedimidi]

All I have to say is if Steve Mickinney got released because of his knee then I believe Ahman Green should be released as well. Knee problems always stick around. Just ask DD/DW...


first of all, not all knee problems stick around. secondly, your analogy doesnt make any sense because dunta robinson, chris taylor, and charles spencer did not get released because of their injuries.

[SuperstarII]

first of all, not all knee problems stick around. secondly, your analogy doesnt make any sense because dunta robinson, chris taylor, and charles spencer did not get released because of their injuries.

Yeah, but age is the main analogy.

[greedimidi]

Walker has more talent than Taylor. Just look at his college career.

based on your statement, can we also conclude that ron dayne has more talent than priest holmes because he had a better college career? :confused:

[greedimidi]

Yeah, but age is the main analogy.

age? now you are contradicting yourself. how old was domanick davis?

[greedimidi]

no disrespect superstar II. i might be a little biased and defensive of ahman green because its hard for me to shed the memories i have of him running the ball in Nebraska and Greenbay, and am not ready to wake up from my dreams of him doing the same in houston yet.

[SuperstarII]

age? now you are contradicting yourself. how old was domanick davis?

Then okay here for you chris Taylor fans.

Darius Walker Total yards 264 yards per carry 4.6 longest yards 41 TD 1

Chris Taylor total yards 123 yards per carry 4.4 longest yards 17 TD 1

So now tell me for the limited action both of them have got. who had the best show?

[BIG ERN]

sure CT fan sure

Walker has more talent than Taylor. Just look at his college career.

I finally agree with you!!!

[infantrycak]

sure CT fan sure

Walker has more talent than Taylor. Just look at his college career.

Take your spaz down a level. I am not a Taylor fan particularly. I think if either Green or Brown is healthy they start over Taylor or Walker. After that, Taylor has flashed playmaking, while Walker has shown poor man's Domanick Davis--solid but unspectacular (not really hard to look like you have burst when you come in to relieve Dayne). Love up on him all you want, but he is on the practice squad barring a series of injuries.

[BIG ERN]

Take your spaz down a level. I am not a Taylor fan particularly. I think if either Green or Brown is healthy they start over Taylor or Walker. After that, Taylor has flashed playmaking, while Walker has shown poor man's Domanick Davis--solid but unspectacular. Love up on him all you want, he is on the practice squad barring a series of injuries.

I think you are wrong about Walker.MJD????

[SuperstarII]

I finally agree with you!!!

LOL

[Newfan2006]

I say keep Green or Brown. Cuz green and Brown, like the colors, don't go together. Keep the two best young guys from camp outta Slaton, Walker, and Taylor. Throw the other one and Brink on the PS. and there you go, you get your backs and your roster. Not to mention Arliss Beach but I don't really care for him at the moment.

[Coach]

walker is going to have a tough time making this roster...with green and brown set as the number 1 and 2 backs on the roster and steve slaton practically garenteed to be the 3rd it makes sense that we will carry 4 backs next year...only one FB...the 4th back competition will really be between walker and taylor...since taylor is the back they are reportedly high on it's hard for me to imagine him not getting the roster spot and walker not going to the practice squad (that is if he passes through the waiver system)

[SuperstarII]

walker is going to have a tough time making this roster...with green and brown set as the number 1 and 2 backs on the roster and steve slaton practically garenteed to be the 3rd it makes sense that we will carry 4 backs next year...only one FB...the 4th back competition will really be between walker and taylor...since taylor is the back they are reportedly high on it's hard for me to imagine him not getting the roster spot and walker not going to the practice squad (that is if he passes through the waiver system)

well if anything I learned from watching Kubiak, I can see Slaton going to the practice squad to learn the system. Then he will get his chance near the end of the season. they did it with Taylor and Walker.

[willieg52]

i can't disagree with you more. NJtexan, i will remind you of your statement when green crosses the 1000 yard mark. i say that because training camp should be enough time to know if his knee would hold up. and if he makes it through training camp

You really think that making it through training camp is the same as taking a beating throughout the season- Come on are you serious? Look Green is an over the hill RB that left his better days behind him in GB. I'm a big fan of Farve and of course I liked to watch Green run, but he doesn't have much if any left in the tank. Another thing is that C. Brown is a similar type of runner in that they both can take a pounding and that's why both have been plagued by injuries, so which one would you rather have on your team? I'd take the younger of the two and the one that would save me the most money. So expect C. Brown who ran the zone in Colorado to stay and Mike Sherman's boy A. Green to go!

[willieg52]

well if anything I learned from watching Kubiak, I can see Slaton going to the practice squad to learn the system. Then he will get his chance near the end of the season. they did it with Taylor and Walker.

Why would a kid that came from a school wherre he ran the zone for 3 years be placed on the PS? That's just crazy! I know he is a rookie, but trust me there is no way he is going to be placed on the PS. Taylor and Walker were placed on the PS because their lack of knowledge of the ZBS.

[shawn76ers]

just curious....
i know walker came from Notre Dame.
but where did he play high school at ??

[Matt_in_KW]

Taylor will be out, Gibbs alrady has sung praise of Walker and Brown. Said he hopes Green is healthy and that Slaton can be a good one.


Now, who did he not list?

[dbruder44]

Why would a kid that came from a school wherre he ran the zone for 3 years be placed on the PS? That's just crazy! I know he is a rookie, but trust me there is no way he is going to be placed on the PS. Taylor and Walker were placed on the PS because their lack of knowledge of the ZBS.

To put someone on the practice squad don't they have to clear waivers, IE someone will sign him, he was a 3rd round pick.

[edo783]

To put someone on the practice squad don't they have to clear waivers, IE someone will sign him, he was a 3rd round pick.

Yes, and that is why he wont see the PS. He would be gone before the ink was dry on the move order.

[bckey]

Taylor will be out, Gibbs alrady has sung praise of Walker and Brown. Said he hopes Green is healthy and that Slaton can be a good one.


Now, who did he not list?

Where did you here this?

[infantrycak]

Taylor will be out, Gibbs alrady has sung praise of Walker and Brown. Said he hopes Green is healthy and that Slaton can be a good one.

Where did you here this?

Ditto to what bckey said. And by the way, Kubiak is the HC and has repeatedly sung Taylor's praise.

[will742]

I think the opposite. In fact, I think Taylor might even start..maybe not the beginning of the year, but its certainly up for grabs.

[SuperstarII]

Ditto to what bckey said. And by the way, Kubiak is the HC and has repeatedly sung Taylor's praise.

But who runs the offensive line? Who knows how to make running backs into hall of fame candidates? Alex Gibbs is the correct answer.

[Matt_in_KW]

Ditto to what bckey said. And by the way, Kubiak is the HC and has repeatedly sung Taylor's praise.

All over...ESPN,FOX SPORTS, ect.

And yes, Gibbs runs the OL and RB's and TE's...so if he says can Taylor...he will be canned.

[Battle-Red]

Man we really need to get our facts vs opinions straight or at least what we've been told vs what we think we know.

Taylor- is the #1 Kubiak, Gibbs, GM/Coaching, media darling, FFootball guy.
Brown- is the 2nd Kubiak/Gibbs guy
Green- praise that he wants to make up for last year and hes in form as always
Slaton- Shannahan praise, and he fits the scheme
Taylor- the whole FB thing was a way to get CT more play time. to get CT and Green on the field at the same time. and to carry 4 backs.
Walker- praise that hes done a supprisingly good job(they didnt even want to activate him last year)
Walker/Taylor-as far as comparing their stats Walker 4games/2starts 86 of 264yrds 41yrd long and 1td came against the Jags 2nd and 3rd stringers,
Taylor 4games/0starts and to break down Taylors games he played a lil over 3quarters if you combine the indy and browns game.
Slaton- to the PS, umm yeah ok. He'd be on a jet to his new team before the ink dried on the paperwork and we wasted a 3rd round pick.
McKinney- Was about money, while age and injuries(he was gonna be ready for camp) may have been factors. It's simple he was getting average starting money, but he was getting really good backup money.
ACL- this isnt the injury it used to be folks, 90-95% of athletes return to 100% of their pre injury level. With full recovery times ranging 12-18months depending on rehab and etc.

This is whats been publicised but not neccisarily the way its going to happen
I dont care who stays and who goes as long as we get the best guy, but at least we can get our stories straight.

[infantrycak]

LOL--ok y'all. We'll see when September rolls around.

PS--nice job of claiming support but not actually providing it.

[Jwwillis1]

SOLUTION =

Chris Taylor starts, Darius Walker spells him, and get Slaton in on some third downs, probably wont be many of those tho, anyway, CUT GREEN. TAKE THE HIT. YOU ****ED UP FRONT OFFICE, NOW GRIN AND BEAR IT.

And Brown?

[SuperstarII]

It's all about the pre-season on who will get the roster spot. that is why it will be interesting to see who makes the roster. Darius has shown more than Taylor during the limited action they both received. One thing Taylor has that Walker doesn't have is fumbleitis.

[taylor90]

wow i was gone two days and tons of replys. anyways. I think either brown or green will start. depending on training camp. taylor will be moved to fb, slaton/walker will compete for the 3rd down back spot. the other will be on practice squad..either brown/green/taylor will get injured seeing as how all three seem to be injury prone and slaton/walker will be amazing..then in 2010 one of them will start one will back up and brown or green or taylor will be gone. or all three of them. my personal thoughts.

[infantrycak]

Taylor is never going to be more than an emergency FB. He is a HB who may play FB in a pinch. Slaton will not be going to the PS. He would get scooped off waivers or off the squad and we'd have wasted a 3rd round pick.

[taylor90]

im really starting to think that last year means nothing with our rb situation. i have a feeling gibbs is testing all of our rbs out with our new system. we could all be shocked and anyone can get the starting job. gibbs is the mastermind of Olines and Rbs with him coaching we can most def. get a very much needed running game