AFC South

[ReliantTexan]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.

[valleytexfan]

that sounds reasonable...

[Historyhorn]

The Titans have gone backwards and even with Vince doing his thing, it won't be enough. Their holes at RB and WR are too glaring. I think their D will be ok, but not stellar this year. I could see us either sweeping or splitting with them. All bets are off, if they somehow find some production at WR and RB. If that's the case, look for Vince to again try to exact some revenge on his hometown for passing on him again. Let's say 2-0 here.
We generally have the Jags number. In every year that our franchise has been in existence, the Jags have had a better team on paper. In every year, we beat the snot out of them in situations where it looks like we shouldn't. They are better than us on paper this year again. That means I think we'll split with them. Put us at 1-1.
The World Champs have owned us except for that last shining moment at home. They've lost some on D, but except for last year, that really hasn't mattered against us. Unfortunately, I think this one will revert back to form as they'll be ready this year and will want a measure of revenge. I'll say 0-2.
My best case scenario is 3-3. Worst case scenario is 2-4.
Go Texans

[Zagen30]

Somewhere between 2-4 and 5-1. I definitely see us splitting with the Titans and the Jaguars at the very least. I think that we could sweep either of those teams, although sweeping both in one year seems a little out of our reach (but we did do it in 2004). With the Colts, I doubt we beat them, as they'll never take us likely again after last year. Too bad the home game is early, when we won't have had as much time to gel, while the away game (which we always get slaughtered in) is later in the year. But maybe this is the year that we arrive and beat the Colts in their own building? Would be pretty awesome if it did happen. ESPN couldn't laugh at us then.

[thunderkyss]

I don't think we'll lose at home in '07. Especially not to a divisional opponent, so that's at least 3-3.

then again, I'm such a homer, I can't see us losing to the Titans or the Jags, so that's 5-1.

& even though I think Peyton is a God, the Homer in me says we'll own the Colts as well.


6-0.

[texans83]

man I must be blonde I always hear the expression "homer" on 610 or on here but what in the hell does it mean?

[texansturningthecorner]

thunderkyss wrote the following post at 05-16-2007 5:43 PM: I don't think we'll lose at home in '07. Especially not to a divisional opponent, so that's at least 3-3.

then again, I'm such a homer, I can't see us losing to the Titans or the Jags, so that's 5-1.

& even though I think Peyton is a God, the Homer in me says we'll own the Colts as well.


6-0.


I like the way you think

[Zagen30]

man I must be blonde I always hear the expression "homer" on 610 or on here but what in the hell does it mean?

A homer is a person who thinks that their team is a lot better than it is, and will do stuff like vote for
their players when others are much more qualified, and just generally have a misguided view of their
favorite team.

[texans83]

man I must be blonde I always hear the expression "homer" on 610 or on here but what in the hell does it mean?

A homer is a person who thinks that their team is a lot better than it is, and will do stuff like vote for
their players when others are much more qualified, and just generally have a misguided view of their
favorite team.

ahh thanks

[Nordic Vadar 1]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

[lamont]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

[Koolbrz]

I say we go 5-1. Only defeat coming to the Colts. We should be able to sweep the Jags and the Titans. Why? The Titans are not all that great even with VY and we just seem to have the Jags number. Enough said.

[lamont]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

LMAO....Wow Lamont, I almost always disagree with you and usually hate your posts...but fair is fair...this one cracked me up.

LOL what's even more funny is the way you managed to get in a burn and a compliment at the same time. Hey we all Texans and shouldnt just flat out concede to 5-1 in the division. We may have our football differences but that's flat out crazy considering the personnel changes we made this year

[Wolf123]

Definatly funny, no way the texans go 1-5 in their division.

[Keyfro]

i'm not big in predicting records or stats for the season because everytime that i have they've blown up in my face....but here is what i see from our division this year
Indy- they've lost some key defensive players and their mindset with dealing with defensive players is simply to restock in the draft for 4 years and do it again...i hate that mindset...i'm still surprised that they won a superbowl with that mindset...if it wasn't for poor play from grossman i believe that chicago would have won...anyways...they've lost i think 4 or 5 defensive starters from last year...trying to replace them with rookies will not be easy...while the offense will continue to carry this team to the playoffs their defense will cause them to have an early exit...also i'm not seeing them win a bunch of games in a row this year in the regular season...no 6-0 for this team...i'm thinking they'll lose a game before the half-way mark....maybe more
Jax- ah the team i love to hate...their offseason moves make since...i love reggie nelson but now it's time to hate him...i'm hoping that the scouts were right and he'll have a tough time digesting a playbook and not bitting on play-action...i think besides their two mamouth DT's their line isn't that impressive...relatively nothing at DE...LB's are still good...overall this team is going to go as far as leftwich can carry them...a team with this talent should be beating up the indy for the number 1 spot in the division but every year there seems to be some downfall of the jags...maybe this is the year they get over the hump...but i'm hoping not...maybe del rio will be looking for a new job after the season is over
Ten- man what can i say...i believe in the madden curse so i'm will predict a very poor season for the titans because without vince young this team is horrible in terms of talent...whose the go to guy at WR...and lendall white carry the load...no...he's already shown up for OTA's bigger than expected and that's not a good thing...and of course they have huge ?'s along the defense...so with vince on the cover of the madden game and with the lack of talent on the roster falling from last year i see a bad year for the boys in tennesseee
Hou- saving the best for last...we got rid of the happy feet QB who couldn't look downfield...we got a new QB who isn't shell shocked...that right there should improve our offense by 3 fold...walter has to step up as the number 2 guy at receiver and i'm actually confident that he will...if mathis can be our KR/PR guy that'll add some excitement to the games...if the green/dayne train can work for atleast one season this might be a fun year to watch...and then there's the defense...man if they are as good as we are hoping for this team should reach the playoffs...cause i think we're all hoping for that top 10 defense we saw glimpses of last year...you put that defense with an improved offense with an explosive KR/PR we should have a good team to watch...of course then we get to the dark-side of the team...the o-line...no matter what this will be a question mark till they show up and produce...if spencer can come back healthy i think we'll have a decent o-line...if not then we're going to struggle a bit with running plays to the left...also the growth of winston is vital to our o-lines success...if the guy, who i believe will be a pro bowler in three years, continues to make the strides he did last year we'll be just fine...if he ever regresses start getting out the shovels because schaub won't have time to duck and cover

[Nordic Vadar 1]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

Yes, Lamont I do. I am confident that any NFL team would crush the Owls or the Cougars. What I said was that they were going to encouter some real competition from other NFL teams.
We had the 8th pick in the draft before trading down. That wasn't accident. Most teams were better than us, and this new group hasn't even played a practice down together yet. They have a lot to prove before I will start projecting them to beat many teams besides the Browns, Raiders, Doplhins, etc...

[Zagen30]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

Yes, Lamont I do. I am confident that any NFL team would crush the Owls or the Cougars. What I said was that they were going to encouter some real competition from other NFL teams.
We had the 8th pick in the draft before trading down. That wasn't accident. Most teams were better than us, and this new group hasn't even played a practice down together yet. They have a lot to prove before I will start projecting them to beat many teams besides the Browns, Raiders, Doplhins, etc...

What about the fact that the Titans have lost a lot of offensive weapons, and have done next to nothing to replace those losses? What about the fact that we always get up to play the Jaguars? (I know you have us winning one of those, but I could seriously see us sweeping) What about the fact that we know that we can beat the Colts? (I do think that the Colts will take us more seriously than in the past after the loss last year, though)
If we could go 3-3 in our division last year, I think we can do better this year.

[ReliantTexan]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

Yes, Lamont I do. I am confident that any NFL team would crush the Owls or the Cougars. What I said was that they were going to encouter some real competition from other NFL teams.
We had the 8th pick in the draft before trading down. That wasn't accident. Most teams were better than us, and this new group hasn't even played a practice down together yet. They have a lot to prove before I will start projecting them to beat many teams besides the Browns, Raiders, Doplhins, etc...

What about the fact that the Titans have lost a lot of offensive weapons, and have done next to nothing to replace those losses? What about the fact that we always get up to play the Jaguars? (I know you have us winning one of those, but I could seriously see us sweeping) What about the fact that we know that we can beat the Colts? (I do think that the Colts will take us more seriously than in the past after the loss last year, though)
If we could go 3-3 in our division last year, I think we can do better this year.
Exactly,and keep in mind we beat the colts by pushing RON DAYNE down their throats.We've upgraded at that position now and add a healthy Mario to the mix .Tell me again how we'll get swept by the titans Nordic.

[Wolf123]

We've upgraded at QB,RB,WR,DT,OL. Are team is significantly better than last years team and thats not even taking into account how the titans and colts lost alot of quality players.

[Keyfro]

i agree that we've upgraded a few positions but i wouldn't say we've upgraded as many as wolf says we have
qb is still unknown...some of us are just so ready to see someone who isn't david carr at QB that anyone seems to be an upgrade...schaub might never turn out to be the guy that kubiak thinks he will be...but i'm still thinking that schaub will turn out alright...just saying we don't know yet if that is an actual upgrade just yet
rb sure i'll take that as an upgrade over what we had last year
wr i don't know about...moulds was a proven guy in this league even if his skills had diminished part of the reason for andre's huge burst at the beginning of the season was because of the respect moulds demanded at the beginning of the season...walter/jones will not garner the same respect early in the season
DT surely looks more promising than last year
OL...haha...when is this not a question mark for this team...until we know how spencer is truely doing and his progress this will remain a huge ?...add that to winston's development and who is playing at center and we have three holes on an o-line out of five spots...not exactly a huge improvement there
that all being said i do believe we are poised to have a good season...make a push for the playoffs and maybe with a little luck make the playoffs

[Whiskeyrbl]

i agree that we've upgraded a few positions but i wouldn't say we've upgraded as many as wolf says we have
qb is still unknown...some of us are just so ready to see someone who isn't david carr at QB that anyone seems to be an upgrade...schaub might never turn out to be the guy that kubiak thinks he will be...but i'm still thinking that schaub will turn out alright...just saying we don't know yet if that is an actual upgrade just yet
rb sure i'll take that as an upgrade over what we had last year
wr i don't know about...moulds was a proven guy in this league even if his skills had diminished part of the reason for andre's huge burst at the beginning of the season was because of the respect moulds demanded at the beginning of the season...walter/jones will not garner the same respect early in the season
DT surely looks more promising than last year
OL...haha...when is this not a question mark for this team...until we know how spencer is truely doing and his progress this will remain a huge ?...add that to winston's development and who is playing at center and we have three holes on an o-line out of five spots...not exactly a huge improvement there
that all being said i do believe we are poised to have a good season...make a push for the playoffs and maybe with a little luck make the playoffs
On your assesments of our upgrades I see them as
QB: Quite a few teams have tried to get this guy for the last two years. His old teammates speak very highly of his abilities. And really isn't anything an improvement over what we have had?
Positive upgrade
RB: The addition of Green is an upgrade. He's been in the leauge 10 years, yet is still producing. Dayne was impressive the last half of the season. And Leach will be leading the charge from his FB position.
positive upgrade
WR: Andre Davis adds alot of speed opposite AJ. Walters is a sure handed possesion reciever, Jones could be a Marquis Colston type steal. With our former QB only looking for AJ, and his tipping of where he was throwing I see a vast improvement in our recievers this year.
positive upgrade
DL: Healthy Mario, Amobi Okoye
positive upgrade
OL: Probably our biggest ???? left on our team. However I will trust our FO on our new additions, both Draft wise and FA pick ups. And the possibility that Spencer comes back, who knows.
Slight upgrade
Overall I think we have improved our team quite a bit and look forward to our first winning season. See our division record at 4-2.

[Nordic Vadar 1]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

Yes, Lamont I do. I am confident that any NFL team would crush the Owls or the Cougars. What I said was that they were going to encouter some real competition from other NFL teams.
We had the 8th pick in the draft before trading down. That wasn't accident. Most teams were better than us, and this new group hasn't even played a practice down together yet. They have a lot to prove before I will start projecting them to beat many teams besides the Browns, Raiders, Doplhins, etc...

What about the fact that the Titans have lost a lot of offensive weapons, and have done next to nothing to replace those losses? What about the fact that we always get up to play the Jaguars? (I know you have us winning one of those, but I could seriously see us sweeping) What about the fact that we know that we can beat the Colts? (I do think that the Colts will take us more seriously than in the past after the loss last year, though)
If we could go 3-3 in our division last year, I think we can do better this year.
Exactly,and keep in mind we beat the colts by pushing RON DAYNE down their throats.We've upgraded at that position now and add a healthy Mario to the mix .Tell me again how we'll get swept by the titans Nordic.
Sure: the answer is Vince Young. Vince isn't going to lose to the Texans as long as he is healthy and starting. There will be enough of a supporting cast for him to do well. (I would like to see them sign Keyshawn.) As for the Colts? They are the defnding Superbowl Champs. Enough said. And the Jags? It would be different if they were a bad team, but they aren't. They are well coached and had injury issues at QB last year.
While anything can happen, I simply think that this is a tough division. I can't predict a win against the defending Super Bowl Champs, so that is 2 losses. I also don't expect Vince to lose to us. That's 2 more losses. Finally, I think that the Jags jinx is over. That's a split. I am looking for 1-5 in division and either 6-10 or 7-9 overall with wins over the Browns, Raiders, Dolphins and a few others. I think that would be OK given that this will be Schaub's first full year starting.

[1337texansfan]

Just wondering what you think ourrecord will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don'tsweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'mpredicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

Yes, Lamont I do. I am confident that any NFL team would crushthe Owls or the Cougars. What I said was that they were going toencouter some real competition from other NFL teams.
We had the 8th pick in the draft before trading down. Thatwasn't accident. Most teams were better than us, and this newgroup hasn't even played a practice down together yet. They havea lot to prove before I will start projecting them to beat many teamsbesides the Browns, Raiders, Doplhins, etc...

What about the fact that the Titans have lost a lot of offensiveweapons, and have done next to nothing to replace those losses? What about the fact that we always get up to play the Jaguars? (Iknow you have us winning one of those, but I could seriously see ussweeping) What about the fact that we know that we can beat the Colts? (I do think that the Colts will take us more seriously than in the past after the loss last year, though)
If we could go 3-3 in our division last year, I think we can do better this year.
Exactly,and keep in mind we beat the colts by pushing RONDAYNE down their throats.We've upgraded at that position now and add ahealthy Mario to the mix .Tell me again how we'll get swept by thetitans Nordic.
Sure: the answer is Vince Young. Vince isn't going to loseto the Texans as long as he is healthy and starting. There willbe enough of a supporting cast for him to do well. (I wouldlike to see them sign Keyshawn.) As for the Colts? They are thedefnding Superbowl Champs. Enough said. And the Jags? It would be different if they were a bad team, but they aren't. They are well coached and had injury issues at QB last year.
While anything can happen, I simply think that this is a tough division. I can't predict a win against the defending Super Bowl Champs, so thatis 2 losses. I also don't expect Vince to lose to us. That's 2 more losses. Finally, I think that the Jags jinx isover. That's a split. I am looking for 1-5 indivision and either 6-10 or 7-9 overall with wins over theBrowns, Raiders, Dolphins and a few others. I think that would beOK given that this will be Schaub's first full year starting.




have you looked at the titans lately. titans have done nothing toimprove there teams. hell they have made it worse then lastyear. 1 player isnt going to win the game for them. he hadhis run in OT last year. that doesnt mean he will come here every yearand do the same thing. he got lucky last year. 1-5 in ourdivision. you really give some team more credit then they aredue. especially the titans. colts are still strong offense, butdefense is fallen off. jax always look good, but they alwaysfigure out a way to screw themselves up. also just becuase yourteam wins the SB doesnt mean you will be a good team next season. look at the steelers. i know peyton will keep them in a winning record,doesnt mean they will sweep us. titans wont sweep us, no way inhell. i say we split with jax and indy and sweep the titans. titans will be the bottom feeders of the AFC south, and that is wherethey BELONG.

[BigTimeTexanFan]

I'm going with 5-1. I think the Titans are in for a rough season due to their inability to aquire talent. The Jags are questionable because their starting quarterback is leftwich. So, I think we sweep both of these teams and split with the Colts.

[Samer]

I will say we can go 4 - 2, for some reason I think we will loose a game to the Jags and the other lose to the Colts

[Historyhorn]

Add Keyshawn to the Titans and I could see them sweeping us. I think it more likely that we split, but I could see us getting swept. The Titans don't have a whole lot of weapons in the WR department and I'm not sold on their running game with Lendale and the new guy out of Arizona. But they didn't have any WR weapons last year and Vince made it work. Chris Henry went off, because everyone had to start playing a zone to contain Vince.

I think the Texans will be better, but we still need for our O-line to get healthy and come together. We need better play from our Defensive secondary as we really didn't address that area. And finally, aside from AJ, we've really got nothing better than the Titans on our WR corps. So we've got our share of gaping talent gap and production holes.

I think on paper we are a better team than the Titans, but having a stud at QB covers a lot of faults & don't think that Vince still isn't taking it personally that his hometown team passed on him to hold onto Carr. And then cut Carr the very next year and gave a way the equivalent of a mid-first round pick to get a new QB.

Go Texans

[RunningTheSouth]

.............yall are forgetting we also upgraded our linebackers![B]

[South Texan]

Let me get out the magic 8-ball... Hmmm, it just says "Ask again later."
I feel safe in saying we, at least on paper, are the most improved team in our division.
If the Titans don't do anything to help themselves at WR, we sweep them.
Jacksonville seems to have the Curse of the Bull on them..., I think we at least get a split there.
Indy is the interesting question in my mind, I think these could be very close games, especially the second one. If Mario is playing full speed and Okoye can at least tie up some blockers to free up Maddox and Weaver, it could be a nightmare for Manning. That said, however, I think the best way to beat Indy is keep Manning off the field. If Matt and company are able to move the ball down the field with a lot of 6 to 10 yard plays and run the clock we at least split with Indy.
So I am going out on the Homer limb and saying 4 and 2.

[Zagen30]

Let me get out the magic 8-ball... Hmmm, it just says "Ask again later."
I feel safe in saying we, at least on paper, are the most improved team in our division.
If the Titans don't do anything to help themselves at WR, we sweep them.
Jacksonville seems to have the Curse of the Bull on them..., I think we at least get a split there.
Indy is the interesting question in my mind, I think these could be very close games, especially the second one. If Mario is playing full speed and Okoye can at least tie up some blockers to free up Maddox and Weaver, it could be a nightmare for Manning. That said, however, I think the best way to beat Indy is keep Manning off the field. If Matt and company are able to move the ball down the field with a lot of 6 to 10 yard plays and run the clock we at least split with Indy.
So I am going out on the Homer limb and saying 4 and 2.

I don't think that's a homer limb, I think that's a realistic limb. 6-0 would be a homer limb. And 1-5 or below would be a pessimist/hater/VY lover limb.
Anything between 2-4 and 5-1 is doable in my opinion; we will not get swept by the Titans or the Jags, and we could potentially sweep both of them and win one against Indy (unlikely, but we did it last year). After all, we've already swept the Meatballs and the Jags in a season before, and that was with Carr at the helm. VY can't beat us with absolutely no receivers, and that defense is not looking nearly as good without Adam "Thug" Jones at CB.

[Houston_Fanatic]

I am going with 4-2, with the two losses being @ Indy and @Jags.

The Colts lost a lot of key players in the off season and it is always tough for a team to keep the momentum after they have won the Super Bowl.

Our defense will contain VY and they don't have many weapons w/o him. WE will be the ones seeking revenge from them, not the other way around, after his commercial.

[Keyfro]

well i was just thinking about the division and decided to go to the other team websites and check out their rosters...here are some interesting things i have found offensively:
Indy is completely screwed if joseph addai is injuried...with guys like dorsey, keith, lawton, and some other unknown guys on the roster behind him there is no real depth there...so look for indy to start really going over the waiver wire for runningbacks...still don't understand why they haven't tried to obtain chris brown
While i like the depth at receiver that tennessee has i don't like a single one of them to be the go to guy for VY...guys like gage, givens, jones, williams, etc are all guys who should be #2 guys or 3 or 4 or even 5th receivers not number 1's...so if the titans don't find away to pick up keyshawn look for them to really struggle offensively through the air
Jax....haha...the one team i love to hate the most...they have some issues via QB and WR...what's the old saying...when you have a lot of something usually that means you don't have good quality...granted you could do a lot worse than leftwich and garrard but neither of those guys scare me...just like their receivers don't scare me either...reggie williams has the talent but can't seem to make a catch...wilford can only seem to make the tough catches but not the easy ones...and jones seems to be stuck in transition phase...mainly because he's still being used as the third wide out
basically what i've found is that every team in our division has some areas where their depth either is suffering or they don't have those guys that make you believe they can hurt us...just like when you look at our roster we have some areas where you would like to see better depth but i personally think our talent level is starting to become even with the rest of the division

[16wins]

For reasons already stated on this thread, I see the Texans improving against the Titans. Though, I'm not convinced of the sweep opportunity here, yet it's certainly possible. I'm gonna go with 1-1.

The Jaguars lose all kinds of composure whenever they play us, primarily because they are the only team against which Carr ever showed up to play. Given our upgrades this off-season, we'll be manhandling the jungle kittens again, even if Schaub doesn't have the same determination Carr did. Schaub's apparent upgrades in talent and decision making should more than offset his not-yet-engendered loathing of the Jacksonville franchise. In this series, the Texans sweep: 2-0.

Against the Colts, the safe choice is obviously that we buckle. But I don't think that's going to happen. Last year we beat them with a worse squad than we have now and when they desperately needed a win to gain home-field advantage and muster some momentum for the playoffs. Indy wasn't slacking last year when Dayne simply smacked 'em in the face and stole their Christmas presents. I'll think we'll take another game from them this year too, so I call it at 1-1.

We may not agree on how we get there but the 4-2 record sounds right to me, with 5-1 not being too much of a stretch either.

[The Pencil Neck]

what's the old saying...when you have a lot of something usually that means you don't have good quality...granted you could do a lot worse than leftwich and garrard but neither of those guys scare me...just like their receivers don't scare me either...reggie williams has the talent but can't seem to make a catch...wilford can only seem to make the tough catches but not the easy ones...and jones seems to be stuck in transition phase...mainly because he's still being used as the third wide out


The mangling of that saying is starting to be a pet peeve of mine. The saying is "If you've got a bunch of guys, you don't have THE guy." And it really only applies to QB. If you've got a situation where you've got some talented QB's and you don't know which one is going to step up, then you've got a problem. If you've got a QB who is The Guy, then you should know it. If you've got two QB's that you like but you don't like either of them enough to choose your starter, then you probably don't have a starter. (It's not always true.)
It doesn't apply to other positions. If you've got two guys who could be starting guards or starting WR's or starting RB's, that's great. That's a great situation. If you've got 2 guys who could start as your QB, then you don't have a clear cut starter and if those guys aren't very good, you're doomed. And if they ARE very good, then you're going to start to have dissension in your locker room about who should be starting and you need to ship one out. (Like Montana/Young, Warner/Green.)

[Nordic Vadar 1]

I am going with 4-2, with the two losses being @ Indy and @Jags.

The Colts lost a lot of key players in the off season and it is always tough for a team to keep the momentum after they have won the Super Bowl.

Our defense will contain VY and they don't have many weapons w/o him. WE will be the ones seeking revenge from them, not the other way around, after his commercial.

.... and why is that? It didn't happen last year. Or are we supposed to believe that Amobi himself will be the difference?
Vince is no longer a rookie either.

[Zagen30]

I am going with 4-2, with the two losses being @ Indy and @Jags.

The Colts lost a lot of key players in the off season and it is always tough for a team to keep the momentum after they have won the Super Bowl.

Our defense will contain VY and they don't have many weapons w/o him. WE will be the ones seeking revenge from them, not the other way around, after his commercial.

.... and why is that? It didn't happen last year. Or are we supposed to believe that Amobi himself will be the difference?
Vince is no longer a rookie either.

Because our defense will know that if he looks like he's going to pass that he actually won't, or at least they shouldn't be concerned about him passing. If Demeco didn't bite on the pump-fake, Vince doesn't take off for that long run. Plus there was horrendous holding on that play.

[RunningTheSouth]

I say 5 - 1, with our ONLY loss in Indy![B]

[travfrancis]

If Demeco didn't bite on the pump-fake, Vince doesn't take off for that long run. Easier said than done, Vince has made a lot of people bite on that fake, it pretty much works 100/100 times.

[Coach Jim]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.

**(wipes the BR Koolaid off his chin with the backside of his drunken hand)**
I truly think we split with the Colts & sweep everybody else *(burp)** ... excuse me.

[tificoach]

[li]i think we beat the jags(sweep)2-0 split the colts 1-1 sweep the tightens 2-0
therefore is say we go 5-1
the texans are going to be out to prove all these sport casters wrong..

[Wolf123]

5-1 is not at all realistic. I believe will split with the colts and jags and sweep the titans. So 4-2 is my prediction.

[BigTimeTexanFan]

I don't understand the thinking in Tenn. They have money to spend, but don't upgrade their offense with an up and coming quarterback? Their defense is going to suffer without pacman along with their return game. SWEEP
Jacksonville just baffles me. With all the talent they have and a dominating defense they just cannot pull it together. I think their main problem is Leftwich. Maybe not a sweep but definately a split. (A split is possible though).
I hope for this every year, but the Colts have to be on the verge of falling off. Their defense is looking very weak at this point. I am hoping this is the year that all their losses catch up with them. SPLIT
4-2 maybe 5-1 with a sweep of the Jags

[dalemurphy]

5-1 is not at all realistic. I believe will split with the colts and jags and sweep the titans. So 4-2 is my prediction.

your prediction and his is only one game apart, yet you say it "is not at all realistic"... Apparently you don't have a high opinion of your own words either.

[Zagen30]

If Demeco didn't bite on the pump-fake, Vince doesn't take off for that long run. Easier said than done, Vince has made a lot of people bite on that fake, it pretty much works 100/100 times.
Yeah, but that was last year, where people hadn't seen it as much, and he actually had WRs to throw to. This year, for the first few games at least, I expect opposing coaches to tell their players "focus on not letting him run, don't bite on everything that looks like a pass attempt, and make him beat us through the air." If he then proceeds to actually complete a fair number of passes, then things get tricky. But I'd want to see him do that before completely being tricked by the pump-fake.

[jvaldez1984]

If Demeco didn't bite on the pump-fake, Vince doesn't take off for that long run. Easier said than done, Vince has made a lot of people bite on that fake, it pretty much works 100/100 times.
Yeah, but that was last year, where people hadn't seen it as much, and he actually had WRs to throw to. This year, for the first few games at least, I expect opposing coaches to tell their players "focus on not letting him run, don't bite on everything that looks like a pass attempt, and make him beat us through the air." If he then proceeds to actually complete a fair number of passes, then things get tricky. But I'd want to see him do that before completely being tricked by the pump-fake.

That's what my high school coach said... My senior year(VY senior year as well) we played Madison and i bit on a pump fake. I looked foolish out there...

[jvaldez1984]

Now that I think back about that play I'm pretty sure he was past the line of scrimmage and I still bit the fake...probably why he is in the NFL and im not...

[lamont]

I'm an optimist by my nature, and I believe we can go 6-0. I don't see the Colts as a threat anymore to Houston. Don't get me wrong I still believe they are a high caliber team, but the last game kinda exposed a weakness and Houston's running game has only gotten stronger.
Titans well I love VY and hate the Titans, but Houston will not only beat them, we will own them.
Jacksonville needs to get their basketball tall receivers some stickums for their hands, we will own them

LETS GO TEXANS

[Tejas]

here is my thought on this

Indy will still win the division but i dont think they will win more than 11 games. I dont see them as the team they used to be. I am kinda split here,.. i wanna say split 1-1 but i am still leaning to the colts sweeping us.
so i got with colts winning both 0-2

jacksonville we always seem to play our best against these guys. i think we will split the jags 1-1
so we are 1-3

the titans. What do i need to say but i feel so sorry for vince having to play with this team. vince is a true play maker but in this case he has no other play makers. o ya lets give the ball to the overweight Rb or the Rb who we drafted that didnt run much where he was or we can give the ball to the rb who we didnt want to bring back. ok lets throw the ball. Wait to who we have jack for WR's we didnt sign any. most of the time when people ask me how the Titans will do i just laugh .We will sweep the titans 2-0 that puts us at an even 3-3.

that seems very fair to me.

[imatexan]

Wow expectations are really high!! I mean thier high for me but 5-1 and 6-0, wow!
I think we will split with the Colts
Sweep the Titans :)
Split with the Jags
Soo we go 4-2

[Wolf123]

5-1 is not at all realistic. I believe will split with the colts and jags and sweep the titans. So 4-2 is my prediction.

your prediction and his is only one game apart, yet you say it "is not at all realistic"... Apparently you don't have a high opinion of your own words either.

like i've said before one game is a huge difference. Think of it like this that one game could be the colts and I know that every one is saying will split with them but that doesn't change the fact that we've beaten them one time in our history.
Texans sweep titans, split with jaguars and Colts=4-2 so if you want to give the texans 5-1 be my guest but it will be wrong.

[Bluedog]

I think the top of the division will be very though. I would say the Titans would be lucky to win a game in this division. I actually believe the Jags will be the toughest team, but as everyone has mentioned we play well against them. I think we will sweep the Titans, we split with Colts, and hopefully split with the Jags.

[Texan281]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.why are we splitting with the Jags in 2007. We sweep the Jags in 2006.

[HydrOshocK]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2. why are we splitting with the Jags in 2007. We sweep the Jags in 2006.
Just because we swept them in 06 doesn't mean we're preordained to do it every year. The Jags are a tough team with a very physical defense. I wouldn't expect them to roll over for us this season. I think it's realistic that we split with the Jags and Colts (hopefully), and sweep the Tacks. 4-2 in the division sounds about right to me.

[travfrancis]

Yeah, but that was last year, where people hadn't seen it as much, and he actually had WRs to throw to. This year, for the first few games at least, I expect opposing coaches to tell their players "focus on not letting him run, don't bite on everything that looks like a pass attempt, and make him beat us through the air." If he then proceeds to actually complete a fair number of passes, then things get tricky. But I'd want to see him do that before completely being tricked by the pump-fake.Still easier said than done, it doesn't work like that. The pump fake plays off of a player's instincts.

[Wolf123]

The sweep of the Jaguars last year mean nothing this year. The jaguars will have a top 5 defense and a top 5 running game. Last year the texans faced them when they had alot of injuries and the quarterback situation was a mess. The jaguars are a consistant quarterback from an elite team.

[aj]

The sweep of the Jaguars last year mean nothing this year. .
Other than, we're in their heads. Like we've always been. Even with Carr at QB.

[Wolf123]

I highly doubt that when they take the field against us there going to be worried about us sweeping them last year.

[Zagen30]

The sweep of the Jaguars last year mean nothing this year. The jaguars will have a top 5 defense and a top 5 running game. Last year the texans faced them when they had alot of injuries and the quarterback situation was a mess. The jaguars are a consistant quarterback from an elite team.
And they're still looking for that elite quarterback; they have the same 2 QBs this year that they did last year.
Oh, and their WRs need to prove that they can catch the ball.

[ObsiWan]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2. why are we splitting with the Jags in 2007. We sweep the Jags in 2006.
If you follow that line of thought, then the Titans will sweep us again this year.
Is that what you think?
Like someone said, you have to compare the talent and scheme on both teams and see what that matchup tells you.
At this point, I think we have a definite edge on the Titans and will probably sweep them since Jones isn't there to save their bacon. I'm not convinced PrinceVince is all that. We play him like people play Vick - i.e., make him pass - we win both games.
We can probably split the home and home series with the Jags. They have a really strong running game but their passing game runs hot and cold; mostly cold when they've played us.
The Colts still worry me. Like I said another time, if we had left 2-3 minutes on the clock after that go-ahead field goal, I have serious doubts that we could have stopped them from scoring. However, like other folks have said, I think they lost enough important pieces that they won't be as formidable as they have been. I think we can split with them too - but we'll need to bring our A-game to do it.
All that to say, 4-2 is very possible but 3-3 is more likely.

[HydrOshocK]

I'm bored again so I thought I'd break down each team in our division. Here's why I think we'll go 4-2 against them:
The Tacks have VY. We all know what he can do. He's a very talented guy but he can't do it all himself. If that were the case then Vick would have won a ring by now because he's a much better athlete IMO.
They lost their best WR in Bennett, best RB in Henry, and best CB/Returner in Jones. That's a lot of weapons to lose for a second yr QB. I don't care how talented he is. Lendale White is fat and lazy and Chris Henry couldn't even produce in college. They have a pair of decent TEs in Troupe and Scaife but they won't be able to stretch the field, and they have no proven WR threat.
VY can still run but there's enough film on him now to diagnose his tendencies. Teams will spy him and wait for him to take off, just like Vick. That will force him to use his arm and he hasn't proven he can do that. He only completed 51.5% of his passes last season.
I think we have the personnel to contain him, and he has very little options in the passing game. That's why I think there's a very good chance we can sweep the Tacks this yr.
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Just because we play the Jags tough every game does not mean they should be underestimated. Don't think for a second that they won't be looking for some payback.
We all know what their defense can do. They are very physical and can knock people out. Their D-line is the strength of their team. They are very good at stopping the run with Stroud and Henderson, they have solid LBs, and their secondary is no joke.
Offense is where they struggle. They still have the same two QBs as last yr and neither of them scare me. But they are still in talks with Daunte Culpepper. If they sign him, and he's healthy, it changes the whole makeup of their offense and we should be concerned. He's light yrs better than any of the other QBs they have on their roster. Fortunately they don't really have great receivers. They're big and strong but can't stretch the field very well. Of course they don't really have to since they have an excellent running game. The run game is their strength. They can pound the rock with the best of them with Taylor and Jones-Drew.
If we can shut down the Jags run game they become one dimensional just like the Tacks. The difference is they have the defense to keep them in games. I don't expect us to sweep them again this season. I'm hoping for a split.
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The only key players the Colts have lost are on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively they are still intact. They lost Brandon Stokley but drafted Anthony Gonzales, who should easily be able to match or exceed Stokley's production. They also lost Dominic Rhodes to the Raiders but Joseph Addai proved he could be the man. The depth behind Addai looks a little shaky but if he goes down the Colts will rely on Peyton's arm more, and that's definitely not something they're afraid to do.
The biggest hit they took was on the defensive side of the ball. They lost both of their starting CBs. They still have Bob Sanders but you have to think their secondary is ripe for the picking considering their two new CBs have only started 2 combined games in 2 seasons. They also lost Cato June on the weak side. Throw in the loss of DT Montae Reagor and you can see why they won't be scaring too many teams on defense this year. However, Tony Dungy has ALWAYS come through with that Tampa 2 he uses so you can't just write them off.
The key to beating the Colts will be ball control, just like last year. We will need to pound the ball at them and chew up the clock, keeping Peyton on the sideline, but we MUST come away with points ever chance we get because they are experts at scoring quick. Like ObsiWan said, if they had another 2-3 minutes in that last game they would've beaten us. They just ran out of time.
Their D doesn't scare me and our running game should be much improved, that's why I think we can split with them again.

[Wolf123]

Good analysis I also think we will go 4-2 in our division.

[RMG417]

Definatly funny, no way the texans go 1-5 in their division.

Haha. I love revisiting old threads with predictions....

[RMG417]

Just wondering what you think our record will be in the division. Honestly I'd be surprised if we don't sweep the titans. I think we'll split with the colts and jags so i'm predicting 4-2.
At Reliant: Beat Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
Away: Lose to Jags, Lose to Colts, Lose to Titans
1 - 5

Out of curiosity do you think the Texans can beat the Owls or the Cougars?

Yes, Lamont I do. I am confident that any NFL team would crush the Owls or the Cougars. What I said was that they were going to encouter some real competition from other NFL teams.
We had the 8th pick in the draft before trading down. That wasn't accident. Most teams were better than us, and this new group hasn't even played a practice down together yet. They have a lot to prove before I will start projecting them to beat many teams besides the Browns, Raiders, Doplhins, etc...

What about the fact that the Titans have lost a lot of offensive weapons, and have done next to nothing to replace those losses? What about the fact that we always get up to play the Jaguars? (I know you have us winning one of those, but I could seriously see us sweeping) What about the fact that we know that we can beat the Colts? (I do think that the Colts will take us more seriously than in the past after the loss last year, though)
If we could go 3-3 in our division last year, I think we can do better this year.
Exactly,and keep in mind we beat the colts by pushing RON DAYNE down their throats.We've upgraded at that position now and add a healthy Mario to the mix .Tell me again how we'll get swept by the titans Nordic.
Sure: the answer is Vince Young. Vince isn't going to lose to the Texans as long as he is healthy and starting. There will be enough of a supporting cast for him to do well. (I would like to see them sign Keyshawn.) As for the Colts? They are the defnding Superbowl Champs. Enough said. And the Jags? It would be different if they were a bad team, but they aren't. They are well coached and had injury issues at QB last year.
While anything can happen, I simply think that this is a tough division. I can't predict a win against the defending Super Bowl Champs, so that is 2 losses. I also don't expect Vince to lose to us. That's 2 more losses. Finally, I think that the Jags jinx is over. That's a split. I am looking for 1-5 in division and either 6-10 or 7-9 overall with wins over the Browns, Raiders, Dolphins and a few others. I think that would be OK given that this will be Schaub's first full year starting.

This guy is friggin Nostradamas....

[HydrOshocK]

Did you seriously dig up a thread that's been dead since July just to rub it in someone's face??

well, good for you. :rolleyes:

[RMG417]

Thanks. Is there a rule against bringing threads back from the dead? I'm not rubbing it in anyones face or trying to start any flame wars or anything. I just remember all those prediciton threads last year and theres nothing goin on in the NFL today so I dug up a thread. Nordic Vadar 1 was a freakin beast at predicting things though. Everything was spot on cept for underestimating the Texan overall record...

[HydrOshocK]

No worries, knock yourself out man. I just saw my long winded reply and it took me by surprise. I thought we'd killed this subject a long time ago but I guess not. That's exactly why I try to avoid making predictions.....often times they come back to bite you in the ***.

[RMG417]

No worries, knock yourself out man. I just saw my long winded reply and it took me by surprise. I thought we'd killed this subject a long time ago but I guess not. That's exactly why I try to avoid making predictions.....often times they come back to bite you in the ***.

Yea man, I hear ya. I never predict anything, publically that is:D. But I always find it interesting to revisit them after the fact you know. I'm sure if you went to a Titans/Colts/Jags board you wouldnt find many predictions of Texans being 8-8. Everyone ends up getting bit in the ***.

[Towlie]

wow...

[zanth91]

I remember this post as if it were yesterday. Well, thinking....That's a bad thing. It means there are too many threads of the same thing over and over again on these boards! :eek:

[HydrOshocK]

OUCH! hahahahaha :D

translation: this train left a long time ago bud.

[RMG417]

ouch...