Texans injuries

[Whiskeyrbl]

I haven't seen anything posted in thr threads on this so I figured as we hear about them we can post for all to see.

Chaun Thompson Hamstring Out 8-10 days
Chris Brown Back cramps Day to day
Jacoby Jones Foot Day to day
Demarcus Faggins Sore hammy
Fred Weary Sore hammy
Scott Jackson Plantar Fasciitis

[bobizzle]

I haven't seen anything posted in thr threads on this so I figured as we hear about them we can post for all to see.

Chaun Thompson Hamstring Out 8-10 days
Chris Brown Back cramps Day to day

not worried about Thompson, we have good enough depth at linebacker. Brown is nerveracking, cause he has a very bad back(like t-mac, lol) and if it causes him to miss games we'll be in trouble, cause even if Green stays healthy(God lets hope so) he needs a partner to share the load in games, and I just don't see Walker, Taylor, and Slaton being capable of doing that for alot of games. Hopefully im wrong.:(

[headsplint]

I haven't seen anything posted in thr threads on this so I figured as we hear about them we can post for all to see.

Chaun Thompson Hamstring Out 8-10 days
Chris Brown Back cramps Day to day

Nice thread, let's keep it going.

[greedimidi]

Brown is nerveracking, cause he has a very bad back(like t-mac, lol) and if it causes him to miss games we'll be in trouble, cause even if Green stays healthy(God lets hope so) he needs a partner to share the load in games, and I just don't see Walker, Taylor, and Slaton being capable of doing that for alot of games. Hopefully im wrong.


i humbly disagree...if you saw darius walker on sundays practice, you will take that back. he looked very fluid and comfortable. made the best of every carry he had. he looked very good.

[WaldovonPutz]

Jacoby Jones has a "day to day" foot injury, I believe. That kind of bothers me because isn't that what used to a problem for Jerome Mathis?

[bobizzle]

I totally disagree as well. I'm very excited about how D. Walker is looking so far. Brown, not surprised. That's been discussed since the day he came here. Green and Walker...Thats what I'm talkin' about!!!

Man i hope so. I kinda actually like the idea of a green/walker duo with Slaton occasionally coming in on third downs! Either way, my main focus is still on Green. No one else believes it, but he's still a great back. I don't wanna here he is 31, as they always say, AGE IS NOTHING BUT A NUMBER. That is especially true in sports. It doesnt matter how old you are, you can still be a great player if you keep yourself in shape. Laugh all you want, but i believe a 55 year old could be a great player if he worked hard at it.:cool:

[Number 34]

It doesnt matter how old you are, you can still be a great player if you keep yourself in shape. Laugh all you want, but i believe a 55 year old could be a great player if he worked hard at it.:cool:

How old is Earl Campbell?

[WaldovonPutz]

Mathis' foot was broke then the hamstring then then the hamstring AGAIN then he chokes his woman. I dont think JJs is the same.

Well, I wasn't interested in anything other than his foot. If it was a stress fracture, ala Yao Ming or Shaun Alexander, we could have a problem. Kubiak doesn't seem concerned, so I am not really worried, yet. Mathis and Jones are both big guys who are extremely fast. I think the similarity ends there.

[A Texan]

Man i hope so. I kinda actually like the idea of a green/walker duo with Slaton occasionally coming in on third downs! Either way, my main focus is still on Green. No one else believes it, but he's still a great back. I don't wanna here he is 31, as they always say, AGE IS NOTHING BUT A NUMBER. That is especially true in sports. It doesnt matter how old you are, you can still be a great player if you keep yourself in shape. Laugh all you want, but i believe a 55 year old could be a great player if he worked hard at it.:cool:

I guarantee you they didn't draft Slaton in the 3rd round just to play occasionally on 3rd downs. On third and long you're usually passing and on 3rd and short you want a big powerful back. That would leave Slaton out entirely. And I don't see any reason that Slaton at 5-9, 201 couldn't have just as many carries as Walker at 5-11, 205 from a physical standpoint. Neither are very big. The only thing holding Slaton back now is inexperience.

[greedimidi]

I guarantee you they didn't draft Slaton in the 3rd round just to play occasionally on 3rd downs. On third and long you're usually passing and on 3rd and short you want a big powerful back. That would leave Slaton out entirely. And I don't see any reason that Slaton at 5-9, 201 couldn't have just as many carries as Walker at 5-11, 205 from a physical standpoint. Neither are very big. The only thing holding Slaton back now is inexperience.

i beg to differ! i guarantee you they drafted slaton to be a third down back and not an every down back. if they wanted an every down back, they would have drafted rashard mendenhall in the first round. it may look pretty close on paper, but there is a big difference between 5-9, 201 and 5-11, 205...trust me!

[A Texan]

i beg to differ! i guarantee you they drafted slaton to be a third down back and not an every down back. if they wanted an every down back, they would have drafted rashard mendenhall in the first round. it may look pretty close on paper, but there is a big difference between 5-9, 201 and 5-11, 205...trust me!
Why the 3rd and not the 1st or second down. And why would you waste a 3rd rounder on somebody you're going to hardly ever use?

[infantrycak]

it may look pretty close on paper, but there is a big difference between 5-9, 201 and 5-11, 205...trust me!

No there isn't--in fact two inches shorter and just 4 lbs lighter could be a more solid guy. How the guy is built is much more important. Height is not an advantage for a RB.

PS--Slayton is up to 207 lbs now according to McClain. Making definitive statements about players based on 5 lbs is an exercise in futility.

[sicemtexans]

Why the 3rd and not the 1st or second down. And why would you waste a 3rd rounder on somebody you're going to hardly ever use?

Steve Slaton is a fast guy, he has breakaway speed and can make people miss.

What that means is he is useful in 3rd down situations. He can go out in the flats for a pass. He is more difficult for linebackers to cover than our other backs. He can run a sneaky draw play on 3rd down to get the 1st down more effectively then our other backs can. He doesn't have to be the star running back, he just has to make something happen when we call on him.

[greedimidi]

No there isn't--in fact two inches shorter and just 4 lbs lighter could be a more solid guy. How the guy is built is much more important. PS--Slayton is up to 207 lbs now according to McClain. Making definitive statements about players based on 5 lbs is an exercise in futility.

well, from what i saw on sunday, slaton maybe be up to 207 now, but darius walker looked a lot bigger than slaton did. like you said, it has more to do with how a guy is built.

[WaldovonPutz]

What does Bryan Westbrook weigh? I don't think he is huge but he is probably my favorite NFL back. Would love to see one of our guys develop similarly!

[infantrycak]

What does Bryan Westbrook weigh? I don't think he is huge but he is probably my favorite NFL back. Would love to see one of our guys develop similarly!

5' 10" 203 lbs

[ReliantTexan]

round. it may look pretty close on paper, but there is a big difference between 5-9, 201 and 5-11, 205...trust me!But you also factor in their height, if you're only 5-9 and weigh 201, you're pretty stocky,(and he has a low center of gravity so I think that bodes well for him) and Darius has a couple of inches on Slaton so of course he's going to have a few pounds on him. And then you also have to factor in the speed, which Slaton has the edge. People look at at Slaton's size and say he's only a third down, but I think he can take more punishment than most people think.

[ReliantTexan]

No there isn't--in fact two inches shorter and just 4 lbs lighter could be a more solid guy. How the guy is built is much more important. Height is not an advantage for a RB.

PS--Slayton is up to 207 lbs now according to McClain. Making definitive statements about players based on 5 lbs is an exercise in futility.
Agree 100%.

[nscurfield]

On injuries, Fred Weary also missed the morning practice with a sore hamstring. Kubiak chalked it up to him being behind the team physically since he missed OTA's and is essentially just getting his offseason going.

Jacoby Jones should be fine; according to Kubiak, team doctors didn't see any long-term problems when they checked Jones out. They just want to be smart with him at this point; I'd expect him to be on the field in the not too distant future.

Petey Faggins was out this morning with hamstring soreness as well but should be back soon, and Kubiak said that Scott Jackson is dealing with plantar fasciitis.

I'll see what, if any, injury news there is this afternoon and report back shortly after practice.

NS

[moses77550]

On injuries, Fred Weary also missed the morning practice with a sore hamstring. Kubiak chalked it up to him being behind the team physically since he missed OTA's and is essentially just getting his offseason going.

Jacoby Jones should be fine; according to Kubiak, team doctors didn't see any long-term problems when they checked Jones out. They just want to be smart with him at this point; I'd expect him to be on the field in the not too distant future.

Petey Faggins was out this morning with hamstring soreness as well but should be back soon, and Kubiak said that Scott Jackson is dealing with plantar fasciitis.

I'll see what, if any, injury news there is this afternoon and report back shortly after practice.

NS

Im sorry, no I am not, Petey can sit as long as he wants(preferably the whole season).

[Whiskeyrbl]

On injuries, Fred Weary also missed the morning practice with a sore hamstring. Kubiak chalked it up to him being behind the team physically since he missed OTA's and is essentially just getting his offseason going.

Jacoby Jones should be fine; according to Kubiak, team doctors didn't see any long-term problems when they checked Jones out. They just want to be smart with him at this point; I'd expect him to be on the field in the not too distant future.

Petey Faggins was out this morning with hamstring soreness as well but should be back soon, and Kubiak said that Scott Jackson is dealing with plantar fasciitis.

I'll see what, if any, injury news there is this afternoon and report back shortly after practice.

NS
Thanks Nick we appreciate it.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Hey Mods could we get a sticky for this thread please.

[headsplint]

Mathis' foot was broke then the hamstring then then the hamstring AGAIN then he chokes his woman. I dont think JJs is the same.

Unless he chokes his woman. Then it falls under the same injury.

[texun]

No there isn't--in fact two inches shorter and just 4 lbs lighter could be a more solid guy. How the guy is built is much more important. Height is not an advantage for a RB.

PS--Slayton is up to 207 lbs now according to McClain. Making definitive statements about players based on 5 lbs is an exercise in futility.

I have to disagree that height is not an advantage for a running back. If you're only talking about carrying the ball, then it could in fact be an advantage to be shorter. However, with responsibility for picking up a blitzing linebacker or catching dump off passes over linemen, it is much more advantagous to have some height. I'll have to see how well a 5'9" 207 lb. Slaton blocks a 6'2" 250 lb. linebacker before I can call him a good running back.

[nscurfield]

Sage Rosenfels didn't practice in the afternoon today due to soreness in his neck/shoulder area. Aside from that and Chris Brown sitting out with back spasms, nothing really to report on the injury front.

NS

[edo783]

Kubes made the comment that even though we only have 80 in camp we actually have more people practicing than in previous years because the injuries are down. Let's hope it stays that way.

[Texan Naija]

Injuries in camp aren't too serious, it is the injuries outside of camp that will hurt.

[bobizzle]

Injuries in camp aren't too serious, it is the injuries outside of camp that will hurt.

Actually dude, 60 % of the reason why we had 17 players on IR last season was because of players getting injured during camp.

[aj.]

I recall only Abbate, Roc Alexander, Brandon Harrison, and Chris Taylor going IR in camp last year. Were there more?

I recall Jason Horton and Glenn Earl going down in the first preseason game.

Then early in regular season, Killings, McKinney, Jason Simmons and Scott Jackson...

Then later in the season Mathis, Barber, Dunta, and Weary. I can't remember the rest but I think most of the damage was done during the regular season. Serious injury can happen at any time, but it seems more likely when the pads really start popping during the games.

Knocking on wood and praying to the anti-injury gods the entire time I'm typing this....

[ObsiWan]

I recall only Abbate, Roc Alexander, Brandon Harrison, and Chris Taylor going IR in camp last year. Were there more?

I recall Jason Horton and Glenn Earl going down in the first preseason game.

Then early in regular season, Killings, McKinney, Jason Simmons and Scott Jackson...

Then later in the season Mathis, Barber, Dunta, and Weary. I can't remember the rest but I think most of the damage was done during the regular season. Serious injury can happen at any time, but it seems more likely when the pads really start popping during the games.

Knocking on wood and praying to the anti-injury gods the entire time I'm typing this....

Some guy named Swab and Snob or Schaub... that's it, Schaub... a person of some importance as I recall...
:D
Then there was Andre the First who was hurt in week 3 or 4, I believe.
Weaver, bless his heart, was never 100% and neither was DeMeco.
here's to a relatively injury free season and post-season.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Chaun Thompson Hamstring Out 8-10 days
Chris Brown Back cramps Day to day
Fred Weary Sore hammy
Scott Jackson Plantar Fasciitis
Mike Bell Sore Hammy
Andre Johnson Tightness in groin

[aj.]

Petey was in pads today.

Tomorrow will be a week for Chaun Thompson so hopefully he's back late next week.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Petey was in pads today.

Tomorrow will be a week for Chaun Thompson so hopefully he's back late next week.

OK he's off.

[aj.]

Some guy named Swab and Snob or Schaub... that's it, Schaub... a person of some importance as I recall...
:D
Then there was Andre the First who was hurt in week 3 or 4, I believe.
.

I was talking about IR.

---------------------------------------------------

The obvious one I was missing was Ahman Green. The others were Kevin Barry and Chad Stanley. That makes 17.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Chaun Thompson - Hamstring Out 8-10 days
Scott Jackson - Plantar Fasciitis
Mike Bell - Sore Hammy
Andre Johnson - tightness in groin
Jimmy Williams - Knee

[TLW]

I heard Chris Brown on the radio today. He practiced and said he was good to go.

[edo783]

I heard Chris Brown on the radio today. He practiced and said he was good to go.

Go where? The PUP list. With Bell coming in, I suspect that was a bit of flashing red light to Brown that he needs to be on the field to make this team.

[HydrOshocK]

Hold the phone on that. Bell came into camp out of shape according to Kubiak. He's been winded several times after drills and he's behind from a conditioning standpoint. Now his hammy has tightened up on him so I'd say he and Brown are in the same boat. There will be a battle for the last RB spot and it will be between Brown and Bell....how good that battle will be has yet to be determined.

[houstonsportsfan09]

Hold the phone on that. Bell came into camp out of shape according to Kubiak. He's been winded several times after drills and he's behind from a conditioning standpoint. Now his hammy has tightened up on him so I'd say he and Brown are in the same boat. There will be a battle for the last RB spot and it will be between Brown and Bell....how good that battle will be has yet to be determined.

Yeah I saw that, and you made a good point. THough then I thought, and I want to ask you from what you said(that theyre in the same boat now), are they both equally healthy, or unhealty, whatever you want to say? If so, then I'd think that Kubiak might go with Bell, just because he knows the system, rather than someone who is injured and is trying to learn the playbook. But good point though you made.

[HydrOshocK]

Yeah I saw that, and you made a good point. THough then I thought, and I want to ask you from what you said(that theyre in the same boat now), are they both equally healthy, or unhealty, whatever you want to say? If so, then I'd think that Kubiak might go with Bell, just because he knows the system, rather than someone who is injured and is trying to learn the playbook. But good point though you made.

I'm not sure of either of their "official" injury status at this point but it's obvious that Kubiak is a little frustrated with both Brown and Bell. Brown tweaked his back and had to miss important reps in practice to let it rest, while Bell came into camp in less than impressive shape (according to several of Kubiak intervies) and now supposedly has tweaked his hamstring.

So to me that puts them in the same boat because each one is struggling to keep up with the pace and physical demand of training camp. My guess is which ever one is able to get healed up and back on the field for the majority of the reps has the advantage at the last RB spot.

[headsplint]

Yeah I saw that, and you made a good point. THough then I thought, and I want to ask you from what you said(that theyre in the same boat now), are they both equally healthy, or unhealty, whatever you want to say? If so, then I'd think that Kubiak might go with Bell, just because he knows the system, rather than someone who is injured and is trying to learn the playbook. But good point though you made.

Chris Brown is very familiar with the system as well, so it really goes back to it being a toss up as to who is the healthier, better performing back.

[Jwwillis1]

I assume everyone is counting out Walker and Taylor. They are both healthy and in shape. How many RB's are we going to carry?

My opinion:

Green - 1 HB
Brown - 2HB
Slayton - 3 HB

Walker (practice squad) If im not mistaken only Walker is eligable for the P.S.
Taylor - 2 -FB
Bell - cut

Honestly, I dont care who makes the team as long as any THREE of them are healthy at the beginning of the season. ANY ONE OF THEM will be better than Ron Dayne/Wali Lundy/Wells/Mack.

The Texans have not had a quality HB last an entire season YET. Dominique Williams is the BEST RB the Texans have had in their history. So again, if any 2 or 3 of our HB's can stay healthy throughout the season we will win 1 or 2 more games than last year. I'd say more if we didn't have such a brutal schedule. If Dayne can average 4yrds a carry what can a healthy Green/Brown/Slayton/Taylor/Walker do?

BTW - Give Dayne his due, he is the ONLY RB for the Texans I've seen (except maybe DD) that would play hurt. I understand that Taylor's injury excluded him from playing injured and I believe if Taylor could take a shot and get back on the field he'd do it.. If Green feels a tweek he's not gonna play. Brown has been sidelined with injury more time than not in his career. Slayton is labeled as a "me 1st" by scouts, and until he gets a chance to prove them wrong, that label is legit. Will he play injured? Walker is a wild card. It seems to me he doesn't have the ability to block NFL LBers/Rushers and lacks starting NFL HB break away speed. Will he, can he, play hurt? Pro Bowlers/Hall of Famers play hurt if the injury allows. It seems these days an NFL football career is worth SOOO much money, that taking even the slightest risk for the team is out of the question. Anybody remember Pastorini finding the inventor of the flack jacket enableing him to play with broken ribs? I also believe that if Dante has a seperated shoulder on his non throwing arm he would have played. Earl also played with broken ribs and groin issues. The great George Blanda played hurt almost his entire career. Does anybody think that Bruce Matthews never got injured? Obviously he didnt have any SERIOUS injuries, but he had injuries just the same such as muscle spasms/bruised shoulders and knees/twisted ankles etc.

Anyway, Im rambling. Bottom line, no matter what happens we will be better off than any season in the past if we come out of camp with 3 healthy HB's.

[Whiskeyrbl]

Chaun Thompson - Hamstring
Scott Jackson - Plantar Fasciitis
Andre Johnson - tightness in groin
Jimmy Williams - Knee (IR)
Fred Weary - leg
Ephram Salaam - Knee
Dunta Robinson - Knee/Hammy (PUP)__________________

[Mailman]

Salaam had his knee cut on today and is out for a month at best.

[NBT]

Wow! That means rookie Brown is gonna have to cut it in a hurry at OLT. Well, nothing like OJT.

[Whiskeyrbl]

The good thing is that only two people on this list are projected starters. The bad part is it is AJ and Dunta. Hopefully it is nothing serious with AJ like they are saying.

[SuperstarII]

Sage Rosenfels didn't practice in the afternoon today due to soreness in his neck/shoulder area. Aside from that and Chris Brown sitting out with back spasms, nothing really to report on the injury front.

NS

good lord this Texas heat is atrocious towards injuries.

[HydrOshocK]

Salaam's injury is a bit of a concern because it leaves us thin at LOT. He's supposed to be out 3-4 weeks which means he should be ready to go by the start of the season, but that means a lot more weight will be put on Brown's shoulders to carry more of the load and stay healthy until Ephraim comes back. In a way that's a positive for Brown because it means more playing time but any time we start getting thin on the line I get nervous.

[headsplint]

Salaam's injury is a bit of a concern because it leaves us thin at LOT. He's supposed to be out 3-4 weeks which means he should be ready to go by the start of the season, but that means a lot more weight will be put on Brown's shoulders to carry more of the load and stay healthy until Ephraim comes back. In a way that's a positive for Brown because it means more playing time but any time we start getting thin on the line I get nervous.

Ya me too. I watched the day 14 camp highlights and kubes said now Brown will play an entire half, so we should really get a feel for his ability by the end of pre season.

[edo783]

With all the work that Brown is getting I suspect he will do just fine technique wise. I do have a concern that working him this hard will bring on the rookie "Wall" earlier in the season. He came to camp a bit out of shape and with losing weight and working this hard, I suspect that by week 10 he will be getting a bit weak in the legs. The only way I see to prevent that would for him to be spelled at LT more, but that affects O-line cohesiveness which is really important. I doubt we get the full gage of him until next season, hopefully he comes on like Mario did and really tears it up.

[HydrOshocK]

Ahman tweaked his groin on his first play from scrimmage. It didn't look like anything serious but I'll be watching for updates coming out in the next day or two. From what I saw it looked a lot like AJ's issue so I would expect he'll be fine by the start of the season.

[wildroot]

And it starts....