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buffsoldier
07-31-2008, 06:40 PM
Great read about Frank Okam

http://www.battleredblog.com/2008/5/16/510140/frank-okam-setting-the-rec

Oh and if anyone can post the article about him from battle red nation... I would appreciate it

Whiskeyrbl
07-31-2008, 06:58 PM
excellent read

texun
08-01-2008, 07:50 AM
Great article. I never really thought much of Oakum but after reading this article, I'm pumped up about our D line. As the title states, he could be the steal of the draft.

The front office continues to impress me with their drafting and player analysis. They don't care what the so called "experts" say about a given player (see RB & VY), they make their own decisions - which continue to be good ones.

Se7en
08-01-2008, 09:14 AM
I think he has potential to be a steal, but keep in mind that his slide from his higher ranking was due to him being labeled as lazy and unfocused. Many teams felt that he was going to end up quiting when he saw how tough the NFL really is.

I remember that he drove into Houston and had a sit down with Kubs and Smith. In that conversation they were convinced that he was not going to leave for grad school and continue improving his game in the NFL.

So he dropped because teams were scared he was not commited to football... I think he will be a steal because I want him to make our D-line better! :)

greedimidi
08-01-2008, 09:49 AM
wow! great read....it seems like travis johnson's journey to the bench has officially started. our d-line is gonna be a force to reckon with...for sure! let's buss 'em in da ahhhh nah! i think thats getting played out. but anywayz, way to go texans. we are slowly but surely getting there. way to go!

HuttoKarl
08-01-2008, 11:23 AM
wow! great read....it seems like travis johnson's journey to the bench has officially started. our d-line is gonna be a force to reckon with...for sure! let's buss 'em in da ahhhh nah! i think thats getting played out. but anywayz, way to go texans. we are slowly but surely getting there. way to go!
Travis is still going to get heavy PT in a DT rotation. It's nice to be able to say we've got more than two starting caliber players at a position.

cuppacoffee
08-01-2008, 11:30 AM
wow! great read....it seems like travis johnson's journey to the bench has officially started. our d-line is gonna be a force to reckon with...for sure! let's buss 'em in da ahhhh nah! i think thats getting played out. but anywayz, way to go texans. we are slowly but surely getting there. way to go!


Don't bet your lunch money on that happening..:D

cac

HomeBred_Texan
08-01-2008, 11:54 AM
I wont make or take any bets until I have seen him play. I love what the front office is doing though, even if I didn't agree at first. They are building depth now with a very young agressive D-Line. I can't wait to see which way they will go once they feel like the D-Side of the ball is complete and only need some "depth" players on that side. I still see them taking a RB in the future in the first round. But sometimes I wonder if it will be a RB, a QB, or a WR that the Texans will snag in the first round one year. Sorry for rambling, but this is what it's all about... It is August isn't it? Time for some FOOTBALL....:D

Battle-Red
08-01-2008, 12:28 PM
I think fat and lazy is an inaccurate reason as to his fall down the draft boards. He was labeled a first round pick his junior season and the Rose Bowl solidify that spot(his only knock was heart and consistency). Shortly after he took the LSAT(All American Bar Association approved law schools require you to take the Law School Admission Test) and in the great minds of the NFL that sent up a red flag and his stock plummeted(although having his best statistical year as a senior). So due to his perceived lack of heart and making alternative plans(backup or the future) they questioned his desire. If I'm Frank thats enough to tee me off to prove every body wrong(every gameday).

phan1
08-01-2008, 12:34 PM
Unfortunately, I think this is a very poor article. It's about as biased an article as you can get. You're saying that this guy is comparable to Glenn Dorsey? Puh-lease! There is a reason why this guy is a 5th rounder! I am very excited about what he can bring to the Texans and hope he does well here. But let's not talk about how he's better than those picked above him, much less those picked in the 1st round. Let's be realistic here guys. There are a bunch of teams that are similarly touting about their late-round steals in training camp too. You don't fall all the way to the 5th round simply because people question your passion for football; you fall because some scout simply doesn't think you're a better football player than someone else.

texun
08-01-2008, 06:24 PM
Unfortunately, I think this is a very poor article. It's about as biased an article as you can get. You're saying that this guy is comparable to Glenn Dorsey? Puh-lease! There is a reason why this guy is a 5th rounder! I am very excited about what he can bring to the Texans and hope he does well here. But let's not talk about how he's better than those picked above him, much less those picked in the 1st round. Let's be realistic here guys. There are a bunch of teams that are similarly touting about their late-round steals in training camp too. You don't fall all the way to the 5th round simply because people question your passion for football; you fall because some scout simply doesn't think you're a better football player than someone else.

The article was simply a comparison of the college careers based on the numbers of other DT's in the draft. Since Okam's numbers were better than many picked much higher, it implies that he COULD BE a steal. The numbers are facts, so I'm not sure what your problem is with comparing him to Glenn Dorsey or any DT taken in the draft. If both men have comparable numbers in the NFL that they did in college, then Okam is definitly a steal for a 5th round pick. Time will tell.

TEXANBRONCO
08-01-2008, 08:53 PM
after what has happened to the texans since KUBIAK took over all i can say is........i am very happy to have him be a texan. our D in gona be 1 bad *** s-b this year.....and we kickin some *** and takin names......been a real real long time in comin too :D i,m soooooo frikkin happy:D

Numert
08-01-2008, 09:02 PM
I don't think we can say anyone is a "steal" until the end their career.

South Texan
08-01-2008, 09:13 PM
If he posted those kind of numbers in college while being "lazy and uncommitted", think what he might do if he gets right mentally. And this particular group of coaches seems to have the ability to get in peoples' heads and get the most from them.
I think the potential is there. Hopefully a few teams down the road will be saying "How in He11 did we pass on him?!??"

RichieVar
08-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Not to mention that if our team can come around I don't see how he CAN not be in from the heart. Usually the better team you are in, the better player you become yourself.

Zac Attack
08-02-2008, 08:08 AM
Wow,

I see it now - the defensive front 4 of the future!!!

???"Next year's draft??? - Okam - Okoye - Williams


I'm so excited!!!!

thunderkyss
08-03-2008, 02:20 PM
Unfortunately, I think this is a very poor article. It's about as biased an article as you can get. You're saying that this guy is comparable to Glenn Dorsey? Puh-lease! There is a reason why this guy is a 5th rounder! I am very excited about what he can bring to the Texans and hope he does well here. But let's not talk about how he's better than those picked above him, much less those picked in the 1st round. Let's be realistic here guys. There are a bunch of teams that are similarly touting about their late-round steals in training camp too. You don't fall all the way to the 5th round simply because people question your passion for football; you fall because some scout simply doesn't think you're a better football player than someone else.

The NFL Draft, is not a science. It is very possible for an undrafted Rod Smith can be a shoe in for the ProBowl, while few WRs taken before him never had a shot.


Terrell Davis a SuperBowl MVP, yet Reggie Bush's flop......

I can't see how any NFL Scout can watch game game tape of Frank Okam, and rank him much lower(if lower at all) than Glen Dorsey. Frank Okam was a monster.

I think it he was the steal of this draft, he has just as much probabilty of busting, as Glen Dorsey does, and his ceiling is just as high.

Whether you like him or not, TJ is our best DT. Amobi is full of promise, and Maddox has worked his way on this team. Zgonia has been solid, adding Okam really strengthens our rotation. Whether he replaces Zgonia, or Maddox.

Sportswriter79
08-03-2008, 02:41 PM
Unfortunately, I think this is a very poor article. It's about as biased an article as you can get. You're saying that this guy is comparable to Glenn Dorsey? Puh-lease! There is a reason why this guy is a 5th rounder! I am very excited about what he can bring to the Texans and hope he does well here. But let's not talk about how he's better than those picked above him, much less those picked in the 1st round. Let's be realistic here guys. There are a bunch of teams that are similarly touting about their late-round steals in training camp too. You don't fall all the way to the 5th round simply because people question your passion for football; you fall because some scout simply doesn't think you're a better football player than someone else.

Exactly. And many of those same scouts are wrong about as often as they are right. Given Okam's stats at a top program such as UT, he was a good selection in the 5th.

Over the past couple of years, our Texans' scouts and coaches have done a great job of finding NFL starters from Round 1 through round 5. I think they have done it again with Frank Okam.

buffsoldier
08-03-2008, 02:57 PM
A great example of a steal is one of the key players on our Texans team. Owen Daniels has put up top 5 receiving numbers for TEs in the NFL. On the other hand Vernon Davis, for all his spectacular workouts, has been average at best

RichieVar
08-03-2008, 05:34 PM
A great example of a steal is one of the key players on our Texans team. Owen Daniels has put up top 5 receiving numbers for TEs in the NFL. On the other hand Vernon Davis, for all his spectacular workouts, has been average at best

Not trying to go offtopic, but I wish Vernon Davis did light it up in the NFL. Not that he can't now, but from what his workout numbers were, you thought you were going to see something special. And with Martz's system you got to wonder if that high draft pick of him was even worth it in the end.

RunningTheSouth
08-05-2008, 09:57 AM
I cait wait to see Okam tear it up, this Saturday!

TransplantTexan1
08-05-2008, 02:06 PM
Yeah, I really want to see him on the field for at least 15-20 snaps to see where his tenacity and conditioning are.