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theCATALYST
08-30-2008, 06:06 PM
Ahman Green blows up this sunday proving he has a little left in the tank. A Green and Slaton tandem wreak havoc on the Steelers defense.

Texans win by a field goal.

Go Texans!!!

HydrOshocK
08-30-2008, 06:28 PM
as long as we win

TexSid
08-30-2008, 06:29 PM
that would be a dream come true after all this drama at RB

Flash80
08-30-2008, 06:32 PM
Ahman Green blows up this sunday proving he has a little left in the tank. A Green and Slaton tandem wreak havoc on the Steelers defense.

Texans win by a field goal.

Go Texans!!!

reading "this sunday" pumped me up. I can't believe it is finally here.

headsplint
08-30-2008, 06:35 PM
call me crazy but here is my alternate reality conspiracy theory. Alot of veterans seem to be banged up in the preseason on different teams, ie..Tom Brady, etc.. What if...and a big what if...telling ahman to go down on the first play was a ploy to trick the Steelers into thinking our run game would suck, and suddenly ahman turns it on in the game and eats up yardage like ron dayne eats cupcakes?

Yosarian
08-30-2008, 07:07 PM
I think headsplint is on the right track here. Ahman has all the incentive in the world with the new structured contract. Stay healthy and get an extra million dollars. Now thats incentive to be able to go each week. Ahman promised us thwe fans and team he would be healthy this season and since the season hasn't started yet...we just need to wait to see if that promise comes true.

281lxm
08-30-2008, 07:10 PM
Rick called, he said if I can get my own flight to PIT, I can get 50k per game. He saw my YouTube I sent with my skills. Thanks for your supporT :D

theCATALYST
08-30-2008, 08:08 PM
call me crazy but here is my alternate reality conspiracy theory. Alot of veterans seem to be banged up in the preseason on different teams, ie..Tom Brady, etc.. What if...and a big what if...telling ahman to go down on the first play was a ploy to trick the Steelers into thinking our run game would suck, and suddenly ahman turns it on in the game and eats up yardage like ron dayne eats cupcakes?


That is EXACTLY the feelings I got that prompted me to post this thread. Watching all the Kubiak videos when he is being asked about Ahman, even after his first run/injury against Denver, he has exuded nothing but confidence in Ahman. This would explain how horrible our run game has been throughout preseason.........to better surprise the Steelers when they come on the field expecting our strength to be thee pass play. How can he be so confident without having an Ace up his sleeve.

Heres to good fortune and a lot of luck........GO TEXANS!!!

Whiskeyrbl
08-30-2008, 08:35 PM
Ahman Green blows up this sunday proving he has a little left in the tank. A Green and Slaton tandem wreak havoc on the Steelers defense.

Texans win by a field goal.

Go Texans!!!
His knee or groin ?

gtal98
08-30-2008, 11:18 PM
... like ron dayne eats cupcakes?

Good one! :D:p

But I think Ahman will have a good game against the Steelers, he still has something left in the tank, it's just those loose lugnuts that have me worried for games 2-16.

Sportswriter79
08-31-2008, 09:27 AM
call me crazy but here is my alternate reality conspiracy theory. Alot of veterans seem to be banged up in the preseason on different teams, ie..Tom Brady, etc.. What if...and a big what if...telling ahman to go down on the first play was a ploy to trick the Steelers into thinking our run game would suck, and suddenly ahman turns it on in the game and eats up yardage like ron dayne eats cupcakes?

You're crazy. :D

spurstexanstros
08-31-2008, 10:14 AM
Texans by 10 , if they can stop them on third down.

HydrOshocK
08-31-2008, 11:05 AM
Yeah I think it was Hydro and I that was discussing that back when the "injury" 1st happen. Like I said then it reminds me of Berkman every year in Spring Training he has a "strained oblique" or something of that nature. I would not be surprised if that is the case. That said Green Slaton and Taylor sound pretty solid. I wanted Walker and was peeved about it for a few days, but I trust this staff and am ready to put it on Pittsburgh.

Yea we had a brief discussion on this before. I can't go so far as to say Kubiak planned to have Green go down on the first play of the preseason in order to mislead the Steelers because that would be an extremely risky move, considering even a seasoned vet normaly needs the reps to get into game shape and develop timing with his blockers. However, I've always maintained that something just did not seem right about this latest "injury".

I watched the vid replay several times and didn't see anywhere that indicated Ahman may have sustained an injury. It just looked like he went down on his own. Then afterwards, in several interviews, neither he nor Kubiak seemed very concerned and nobody would speculate on the extent of the injury...they just kept saying it wasn't a big deal. Again, I can't go so far as to say it was planned but it certainly looked odd the way it went down and the way all parties have responded. Everyone knows Kubs likes to give the seasoned vets additional time off so it wouldn't completely surprise me if Ahman's status has been exagerated, and we all know how certain athletes tend to come up with mysterious little "injuries" in the preseason that seem to linger until the regular season starts and suddenly they're good to go.

Hwood82
08-31-2008, 11:08 AM
Ahman Green blows up this sunday proving he has a little left in the tank. A Green and Slaton tandem wreak havoc on the Steelers defense.

Texans win by a field goal.

Go Texans!!!

Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not but I was thinking that this might happen for real. If it does, expect alot of people to jump back on the Ahman train!

ojthecat
08-31-2008, 11:18 AM
Yea we had a brief discussion on this before. I can't go so far as to say Kubiak planned to have Green go down on the first play of the preseason in order to mislead the Steelers because that would be an extremely risky move, considering even a seasoned vet normaly needs the reps to get into game shape and develop timing with his blockers. However, I've always maintained that something just did not seem right about this latest "injury".

I watched the vid replay several times and didn't see anywhere that indicated Ahman may have sustained an injury. It just looked like he went down on his own. Then afterwards, in several interviews, neither he nor Kubiak seemed very concerned and nobody would speculate on the extent of the injury...they just kept saying it wasn't a big deal. Again, I can't go so far as to say it was planned but it certainly looked odd the way it went down and the way all parties have responded. Everyone knows Kubs likes to give the seasoned vets additional time off so it wouldn't completely surprise me if Ahman's status has been exagerated, and we all know how certain athletes tend to come up with mysterious little "injuries" in the preseason that seem to linger until the regular season starts and suddenly they're good to go.

Yeah I overheard JFK and Elvis discussing this same thing just the other day.

Charlotex
08-31-2008, 11:35 AM
Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not but I was thinking that this might happen for real. If it does, expect alot of people to jump back on the Ahman train!

We are all on the Ahman train. It's just that the train ain't left the station yet! We're in a hurry to get where we're going.

theCATALYST
08-31-2008, 11:57 AM
Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not but I was thinking that this might happen for real. If it does, expect alot of people to jump back on the Ahman train!


Nope, I'm not being sarcastic, I have been seated on the Ahman train for while now.....I just hope it takes us where we need to go and doesnt abandom us in the middle of nowhere.

theCATALYST
08-31-2008, 11:59 AM
Yea we had a brief discussion on this before. I can't go so far as to say Kubiak planned to have Green go down on the first play of the preseason in order to mislead the Steelers because that would be an extremely risky move, considering even a seasoned vet normaly needs the reps to get into game shape and develop timing with his blockers. However, I've always maintained that something just did not seem right about this latest "injury".

I watched the vid replay several times and didn't see anywhere that indicated Ahman may have sustained an injury. It just looked like he went down on his own. Then afterwards, in several interviews, neither he nor Kubiak seemed very concerned and nobody would speculate on the extent of the injury...they just kept saying it wasn't a big deal. Again, I can't go so far as to say it was planned but it certainly looked odd the way it went down and the way all parties have responded. Everyone knows Kubs likes to give the seasoned vets additional time off so it wouldn't completely surprise me if Ahman's status has been exagerated, and we all know how certain athletes tend to come up with mysterious little "injuries" in the preseason that seem to linger until the regular season starts and suddenly they're good to go.



I think surprises are a new constant in the preseason. Look at our game with New Orleans.........Oh no.....Bush will not play against the Texans. What happened during the game? Bush is leaping over Reeves without any sign of injury. LOL.......if that wasn't a planned surprise, I don't what is.

Sportswriter79
08-31-2008, 02:00 PM
Yea we had a brief discussion on this before. I can't go so far as to say Kubiak planned to have Green go down on the first play of the preseason in order to mislead the Steelers because that would be an extremely risky move, considering even a seasoned vet normaly needs the reps to get into game shape and develop timing with his blockers. However, I've always maintained that something just did not seem right about this latest "injury".

I watched the vid replay several times and didn't see anywhere that indicated Ahman may have sustained an injury. It just looked like he went down on his own. Then afterwards, in several interviews, neither he nor Kubiak seemed very concerned and nobody would speculate on the extent of the injury...they just kept saying it wasn't a big deal. Again, I can't go so far as to say it was planned but it certainly looked odd the way it went down and the way all parties have responded. Everyone knows Kubs likes to give the seasoned vets additional time off so it wouldn't completely surprise me if Ahman's status has been exagerated, and we all know how certain athletes tend to come up with mysterious little "injuries" in the preseason that seem to linger until the regular season starts and suddenly they're good to go.

I hope you are right, but from what I hear, Ahman is truly hurt. I just don't see him being a factor this year.

TEXANBRONCO
08-31-2008, 05:57 PM
i predict that GREEN/SLATON run for 150 yds with 3 touchdowns....and our season starts off with a TEXANS 34--pittsburg 27 win.....alot of u people just need more faith in our new system and our COACHS decisions:D

NBT
08-31-2008, 06:11 PM
Pittsburgh will be a tough nut. We better come out of the gate firing on all cylinders, if we are to beat them at home, first game of the season.

houstonsportsfan09
08-31-2008, 06:16 PM
Pittsburgh will be a tough nut. We better come out of the gate firing on all cylinders, if we are to beat them at home, first game of the season.

Yup, hope Mario and (def)co. have the preseason jitters out of them. Offensively I think we are good. And from the looks of things it will be a heavy dose of Taylor and Slaton with maybe a glimpse of Green.

(UPDATE: Saturday, August 30) - According to the Texans, the team will start the opener against the Steelers with Chris Taylor and Steve Slaton at runningback. The team says RB Ahman Green is in shape, but may not be ready to start the opener on Sunday.

HJam72
08-31-2008, 06:37 PM
I hate to be such a pessimist, but my take, based on what the coaches have said in the past and what has actually happened, is that Green will not be ready for the Steelers, Brown is done for life, and Slaton has completely lost one of his feet. :D

TMC4REAL
08-31-2008, 07:37 PM
Steeler fan here, I find it somewhat shocking that the Texans' fans feel they are going to come out and run against the Steelers. You might pass, but you can bet it will be tough to get yards on the ground.

The Steelers defense was #1 in the NFL last year. Not number 15, not number 10, number 1. None better. And, they did this missing Troy Polamalu for a stretch. They lost starting free safety Ryan Clark to a illness where the altitude in Denver caused his blood to sickle and destroyed his spleen. He left after game 6. Then, run stopper Aaron Smith was injured in week 10 and lost for the season.

They STILL finished #1, even though they were not the same defense. The Steelers also finished #3 overall against the run and the pass.

And, this defense is better than it was last season. The only guy that left is Clark Haggans and he was replaced with Lamar Woodley. Wood has drawn comparisons to Kevin Greene. He is simply nasty. Lawrence Timmons is also pushing Larry Foote for the starting ILB spot because Timmons makes loads more big plays. He hits like a truck.

The defense is healthy and improved....and you think you are going to toss up a bunch of yards with an injury prone back on the downhill side of his career and a rookie? Really?

When the Steelers give up 100 yards rushing, they are not ground out, but the defense is gashed for a long run. The Steelers had 4 teams gain over 100 yards rushing last year. Three of them came after the injuries to Smith, Clark, and Polamalu. Now, that is not 100 yard rushers, as in one back, that is 100 yards rushing AS A TEAM. Four times.

And, honestly, you better get that secondary ready.......because we will sling it. No Robinson is good news for us.

houstonsportsfan09
08-31-2008, 07:49 PM
Yeah and when I watched that Min-Pit. game, grant it it was preseason, it looked like Ben had a hard time staying upright on his feet so if hes gonna sling it all day on our "scrub CBs" he better be on his feet. Just hope your line blocks good enough. And when Mendenhall is in the game, make sure he holds on to it. Your Mendenhall is our Jacoby Jones, though we dont have to see Jones on the field as often as Mendenhall will/might.

houstonsportsfan09
08-31-2008, 07:56 PM
And sure you guys have fast recievers, but as mentioned, keep Ben upright. Sitting in the fetal position is never good, we know from experience from that one QB with the initials of DC. And oh yeah, we most likely wont have that injury prone back Ahman Green in the backfield. Try more like Steve Slaton and Chris Taylor with little doses of Ahman, if that. One week away and you just had to start it. Haha man...

Oh and PS: Happy 900 to me. ;)

Numert
08-31-2008, 07:57 PM
I predict we go 16-0 and we win the superbowl! WHOOOO!!! how's that for optimistic? And...we repeat that for a consecutive 10 years!

houstonsportsfan09
08-31-2008, 08:05 PM
CONGRATS! :D

and very nice 900th post!

Haha thanks I guess? lol and nice 444th post. Still got a long way to go, but so do I. Haha..Too bad, whoever that was just disappeared now. Just like ringing the doorbell and runnin, gotta let people know your here, then run. Ha..

headsplint
08-31-2008, 10:19 PM
Steeler fan here, I find it somewhat shocking that the Texans' fans feel they are going to come out and run against the Steelers. You might pass, but you can bet it will be tough to get yards on the ground.

The Steelers defense was #1 in the NFL last year. Not number 15, not number 10, number 1. None better. And, they did this missing Troy Polamalu for a stretch. They lost starting free safety Ryan Clark to a illness where the altitude in Denver caused his blood to sickle and destroyed his spleen. He left after game 6. Then, run stopper Aaron Smith was injured in week 10 and lost for the season.

They STILL finished #1, even though they were not the same defense. The Steelers also finished #3 overall against the run and the pass.

And, this defense is better than it was last season. The only guy that left is Clark Haggans and he was replaced with Lamar Woodley. Wood has drawn comparisons to Kevin Greene. He is simply nasty. Lawrence Timmons is also pushing Larry Foote for the starting ILB spot because Timmons makes loads more big plays. He hits like a truck.

The defense is healthy and improved....and you think you are going to toss up a bunch of yards with an injury prone back on the downhill side of his career and a rookie? Really?

When the Steelers give up 100 yards rushing, they are not ground out, but the defense is gashed for a long run. The Steelers had 4 teams gain over 100 yards rushing last year. Three of them came after the injuries to Smith, Clark, and Polamalu. Now, that is not 100 yard rushers, as in one back, that is 100 yards rushing AS A TEAM. Four times.

And, honestly, you better get that secondary ready.......because we will sling it. No Robinson is good news for us.

Glad you feel so good about your team that had to come on our board and boast about it, but like mentioned above you better pray big ben can throw the ball before our d-line gets ahold of him. He could have a very long day. I'm just glad we have a team on their way down for our first game. Should be a nice warm up game watching Mario and company spread that butter of an O-line you guys have.

TMC4REAL
09-01-2008, 06:36 AM
Do you think that NO other team in the NFL suffers injuries?

The Steelers suffered 3..wow

and even if the Texans can't rush for 100 yards against the Steelers, I can guarantee the Steelers will give up A LOT of turnovers.

Our Running backs might not be the best, but atleast we can hold on to the ball. ;)

How many times did Mendenhall fumble this preseason?

I completely understand every team suffers injuries. We went 10-6 and made the playoffs losing Aaron Smith and Ryan Clark for the season. We also were without Polamalu for a long stretch. Two Pro Bowlers gone....and STILL finished #1 in the NFL in defense.

And, we have a fleet of runningbacks NOT named Mendenhall that can hold onto the football. Willie Parker, Mewelde Moore, and Gary Russell do not have fumble issues. Mendenhall placed it on the ground 3 times in the preseason and it has already been said he is changing the way he holds the ball....and will be LIMITED in his touches until he gets it right. He cannot fumble if he does not get the ball.

houstonsportsfan09, I surely hope you are not comparing your defensive line with Minnesota's. They have 3 Pro Bowl linemen. The Williams Duo in the middle certainly trumps what you have. Jared Allen led the NFL in sacks last season. And, in just under 3 quarters, Ben was sacked twice, never even touched by Allen. You are comparing your defense to the #1 run defense in the NFL that added the top sack getter? LOL.

And, we do have fast receivers. Fast receivers with great hands. We also have a fast runningback. You will see plenty of quick hitters, slip screens to the WRs, quick outs, things to get the ball out of Ben's hands. And, if our line does what it does best, which is blow guys up in the running game, play action will be deadly.

Dunta, I welcome Mario Williams. Marvel Smith finally had surgery on his back and looks as good as he ever has. He did not make the Pro Bowl a few seasons ago on name recognition. He smoked Jared Allen a few games ago. In fact, he has not had an issue AT ALL this preseason. He struggled last year because of a bulging disk that made his leg go numb in games. When he hit the IR, Max Starks replaced him and promptly blew out his knee. We had scrubs off the street on our roster protecting Ben.

And, I am glad Faneca is gone as well. Good luck to the Jets. I hope they get their $8M a season from him, but I doubt they will. His game had deteriorated significantly over the last three seasons. He was owned by Darnell Dockett last year. His game has slipped. I do not know if Kemo will be better than the young Faneca, but he has already been better than the Faneca we saw last season.

headsplint, I always love when other fans state the Steelers are a team on the way down. The rest of the division says it every year. This is "their" year. We heard it from Cleveland for weeks last year. Then, our defense sent Frye to the unemployment line and our offense crushed Cleveland's defense. And, they went 10-6. The Steelers lost key players last year in critical moments and STILL went into the playoffs. While they were outed early, the did receive that grand old apology from the NFL for missing the call that cost them the game. But, it is a good thing they apologized as the Jags moved on and we went home....because those apologies feel so much better than moving forward in the playoffs. :rolleyes:

The Steelers will be fine. On the way down? Hardly. We have a young RB, QB, three young WRs in Holmes, Washington, and Sweed. Our line may have lost the name player, but they are playing better as a unit. On defense, we have an injection of youth at linebacker and Timmons/Woodley are two exciting players. Our secondary is a group of nobodies that simply play well together. They never get any love, but always seem to finish in the top 10.

Can the Texans win? Sure. They did it a few years ago when we had Maddox at the helm. Of course, your offense did only total 47 yards and Maddox provided the scoring for you, but you still won.

My post was simply to show you should not expect to walk over us.

And, to those that are stating this is a week early, Texan's fans came to our board 2 days ago. Preseason is over baby....and this is a brand new year.

TMC4REAL
09-01-2008, 06:49 AM
One more point. I understand that many feel this is bragging. I can completely see your point. But, I came here initially to try to get a feel for your team, because the fans always know more than the national publications.

I probably would not have posted until I saw posts where you felt you would run for 150 yards and 3 TDs. Our defense goes into every game with the intention of stopping the run. Only three teams broke 150 yards on our defense last season, and all of that came after those key injuries. While I do understand injuries happen, how would your defense look if Mario Williams went down? Aaron Smith is our Mario Williams. I do not mean he IS Mario Williams, but he is our defensive line stud....our run stopping presence. When he left, teams miraculously began running right....and gashing us. We have no depth on the DL behind our starters. NONE. Nada. Our defense also allowed only 6 rushing TDs all year.....so the thought that Houston will get half that is a little insulting to any Steeler fan.

Now, could Schaub light up the secondary? If our blitz scheme does not get there, it could happen. That is why we struggle with the Colts and Pats. They get a little time and torch our secondary.

On defense, you have to blow up our line, keep Ben from scrambling to his right, and STUFF Parker. If Parker gets going, it will be over quick. People do not realize how big a stud he is.

dbruder44
09-01-2008, 06:53 AM
I completely understand every team suffers injuries. We went 10-6 and made the playoffs losing Aaron Smith and Ryan Clark for the season. We also were without Polamalu for a long stretch. Two Pro Bowlers gone....and STILL finished #1 in the NFL in defense.

And, we have a fleet of runningbacks NOT named Mendenhall that can hold onto the football. Willie Parker, Mewelde Moore, and Gary Russell do not have fumble issues. Mendenhall placed it on the ground 3 times in the preseason and it has already been said he is changing the way he holds the ball....and will be LIMITED in his touches until he gets it right. He cannot fumble if he does not get the ball.

houstonsportsfan09, I surely hope you are not comparing your defensive line with Minnesota's. They have 3 Pro Bowl linemen. The Williams Duo in the middle certainly trumps what you have. Jared Allen led the NFL in sacks last season. And, in just under 3 quarters, Ben was sacked twice, never even touched by Allen. You are comparing your defense to the #1 run defense in the NFL that added the top sack getter? LOL.

And, we do have fast receivers. Fast receivers with great hands. We also have a fast runningback. You will see plenty of quick hitters, slip screens to the WRs, quick outs, things to get the ball out of Ben's hands. And, if our line does what it does best, which is blow guys up in the running game, play action will be deadly.

Dunta, I welcome Mario Williams. Marvel Smith finally had surgery on his back and looks as good as he ever has. He did not make the Pro Bowl a few seasons ago on name recognition. He smoked Jared Allen a few games ago. In fact, he has not had an issue AT ALL this preseason. He struggled last year because of a bulging disk that made his leg go numb in games. When he hit the IR, Max Starks replaced him and promptly blew out his knee. We had scrubs off the street on our roster protecting Ben.

And, I am glad Faneca is gone as well. Good luck to the Jets. I hope they get their $8M a season from him, but I doubt they will. His game had deteriorated significantly over the last three seasons. He was owned by Darnell Dockett last year. His game has slipped. I do not know if Kemo will be better than the young Faneca, but he has already been better than the Faneca we saw last season.

headsplint, I always love when other fans state the Steelers are a team on the way down. The rest of the division says it every year. This is "their" year. We heard it from Cleveland for weeks last year. Then, our defense sent Frye to the unemployment line and our offense crushed Cleveland's defense. And, they went 10-6. The Steelers lost key players last year in critical moments and STILL went into the playoffs. While they were outed early, the did receive that grand old apology from the NFL for missing the call that cost them the game. But, it is a good thing they apologized as the Jags moved on and we went home....because those apologies feel so much better than moving forward in the playoffs. :rolleyes:

The Steelers will be fine. On the way down? Hardly. We have a young RB, QB, three young WRs in Holmes, Washington, and Sweed. Our line may have lost the name player, but they are playing better as a unit. On defense, we have an injection of youth at linebacker and Timmons/Woodley are two exciting players. Our secondary is a group of nobodies that simply play well together. They never get any love, but always seem to finish in the top 10.

Can the Texans win? Sure. They did it a few years ago when we had Maddox at the helm. Of course, your offense did only total 47 yards and Maddox provided the scoring for you, but you still won.

My post was simply to show you should not expect to walk over us.

And, to those that are stating this is a week early, Texan's fans came to our board 2 days ago. Preseason is over baby....and this is a brand new year.

So you are trolling our website trying to find comments and somewhat taking them out of context. The sentiment from this board is this, The Steelers are good (but have been great) we expect a close game but feel we have a decent shot to win, as we will have a healthy team week 1. Many people on this board were crushed when we didn't get Mendenhall, but we may have picked up the best back in the draft in Slaton (who by the way has not fumbled yet). The dude that said our D-line was as good as the Vikings got laughed at by us too. You gave up 47 sacks last year we gave up 22, we have maybe had 3 sacks given up all presean, the Vikings were all over Ben in that game, Mario will have a 2 sack day on Sunday. You will need to run quick hits and slants cuz not even with his 100 million contract can Ben buy any protection in the pocket right now.

dbruder44
09-01-2008, 06:57 AM
One more point. I understand that many feel this is bragging. I can completely see your point. But, I came here initially to try to get a feel for your team, because the fans always know more than the national publications.

I probably would not have posted until I saw posts where you felt you would run for 150 yards and 3 TDs. Our defense goes into every game with the intention of stopping the run. Only three teams broke 150 yards on our defense last season, and all of that came after those key injuries. While I do understand injuries happen, how would your defense look if Mario Williams went down? Aaron Smith is our Mario Williams. I do not mean he IS Mario Williams, but he is our defensive line stud....our run stopping presence. When he left, teams miraculously began running right....and gashing us. We have no depth on the DL behind our starters. NONE. Nada. Our defense also allowed only 6 rushing TDs all year.....so the thought that Houston will get half that is a little insulting to any Steeler fan.

Now, could Schaub light up the secondary? If our blitz scheme does not get there, it could happen. That is why we struggle with the Colts and Pats. They get a little time and torch our secondary.

On defense, you have to blow up our line, keep Ben from scrambling to his right, and STUFF Parker. If Parker gets going, it will be over quick. People do not realize how big a stud he is.


Whoever puts up the most rushing yards will win this game, as long as their is not a huge despaity in turnovers. We were dominated by the Cowboys but forced 3 turnovers and dropped a 2 point conversion to win the game, so we lost by one. Just like Aaron Glen picking off two Maddox passes (pick 6) on that great December day many years ago. Pittsburgh has trouble winning when they throw pick-6's

"What Does Neil O'donnell and a scab have in common...... they both get picked off at the most in appropriate times, how did you enjoy Super bowl XXX"

TMC4REAL
09-01-2008, 07:15 AM
Whoever puts up the most rushing yards will win this game, as long as their is not a huge despaity in turnovers. We were dominated by the Cowboys but forced 3 turnovers and dropped a 2 point conversion to win the game, so we lost by one. Just like Aaron Glen picking off two Maddox passes (pick 6) on that great December day many years ago. Pittsburgh has trouble winning when they throw pick-6's

"What Does Neil O'donnell and a scab have in common...... they both get picked off at the most in appropriate times, how did you enjoy Super bowl XXX"

I did not enjoy Super Bowl XXX. It was the only one the Steelers ever lost...and to the Cowboys no less.

I disagree on the idea of rushing yards. The games the Steelers traditionally lose, they are able to rush fine, but cannot stop the pass. I think the Texans could lose the rushing battle and still win the game. In fact, if I were to bet on it, that is how I would see it happening. The Texans would use underneath routes, find holes in the zone, move the chains through the air.

I would state that the team with the most effective passing game wins. If Ben gets it going, it could be trouble. If Schaub gets rolling and finds his groove, it is trouble.

dbruder44
09-01-2008, 07:24 AM
I did not enjoy Super Bowl XXX. It was the only one the Steelers ever lost...and to the Cowboys no less.

I disagree on the idea of rushing yards. The games the Steelers traditionally lose, they are able to rush fine, but cannot stop the pass. I think the Texans could lose the rushing battle and still win the game. In fact, if I were to bet on it, that is how I would see it happening. The Texans would use underneath routes, find holes in the zone, move the chains through the air.

I would state that the team with the most effective passing game wins. If Ben gets it going, it could be trouble. If Schaub gets rolling and finds his groove, it is trouble.

We can win the game with our passing game I agree, not too sure about ya'll, I doubt you will able to put up 150 and not throw the ball, or be able to throw the ball and still get 150 on the ground. What's the line

TMC4REAL
09-01-2008, 07:32 AM
So you are trolling our website trying to find comments and somewhat taking them out of context. The sentiment from this board is this, The Steelers are good (but have been great) we expect a close game but feel we have a decent shot to win, as we will have a healthy team week 1. Many people on this board were crushed when we didn't get Mendenhall, but we may have picked up the best back in the draft in Slaton (who by the way has not fumbled yet). The dude that said our D-line was as good as the Vikings got laughed at by us too. You gave up 47 sacks last year we gave up 22, we have maybe had 3 sacks given up all presean, the Vikings were all over Ben in that game, Mario will have a 2 sack day on Sunday. You will need to run quick hits and slants cuz not even with his 100 million contract can Ben buy any protection in the pocket right now.

I was not trolling looking for any comments. I came here to see how you felt about your team. If you felt your offensive line has improved, where your weakness were, and what players you liked/disliked....because the National Publications will talk about how the treads are off of Ahman Green, how your secondary is hurting, and how your OL is still developing. But, that does not tell me how your rookie LT is progressing and if he will start. It does not tell me how you feel about your new center. How you feel about your secondary.

See, our secondary gets beat up in every national publication, but as fans, we LIKE our secondary. We even like a few of our backups. We think we have a good secondary with depth. National Publications rank us near the bottom, even though they perform.

And, we know all about Slaton. He went to West Virginia. I do not feel he is the best back in the draft. McFadden and Stewart look to be special players. McFadden had a good final preseason game. He is coming on fast. Stewart is a stud. Mendenhall did not have issues fumbling in college, but has dropped 3 in the preseason. I think it is mental. We have the RB coach that taught Barber how to hold it higher in teaching Mendenhall....but Mendy will be a non-factor on Sunday. Keep harping on that one, we STILL have Willie Parker.

And, Minny did have a very good game against us. I am not arguing that. But, they got pressure from the right side. Jared Allen did not get a sack. Willie Colon was beaten once by Ray Edwards and we had a blown assignment on the other play allowing Williams to come in untouched. That happens in the preseason. Those were the ONLY 2 sacks Ben had all preseason. Schaub has not been touched this preseason. But, I also realize that the Texans have 2 new starters this season, your rookie LT and your new center (Myers, I believe). We have 2 new starters as well, Kemo at LG and Hartwig at center. We were horrid up the middle last season. Simply horrid. Our new OL coach tried to change the blocking scheme and Faneca did not want to change. It has been fairly big news here. Three linemen blocked one way, two blocked another. I cannot tell you how many free sacks we gave up because of blown blocking schemes.

That has stopped.

So, not only has our line improved (it could not have gotten worse), we have added offensive weapons and added plays to help Ben. And, the Vikings preseason game was Ben's worst outing this year. He missed more throws in that game than he normally does. He makes a few throws, down and distance change, so does the pressure.

TMC4REAL
09-01-2008, 07:41 AM
We can win the game with our passing game I agree, not too sure about ya'll, I doubt you will able to put up 150 and not throw the ball, or be able to throw the ball and still get 150 on the ground. What's the line

Ben does not have to throw a ton to win because of the running game, but don't be fooled, he can easily do it. And, he still shocks us with some of the things he does. The Steelers have been extremely fortunate in the first round of the draft. Ben sliding to #11, Santonio Holmes falling to them. Heath Miller slipping to the end of the first. Mendenhall. Timmons...then Woodley falling last season. We have been very lucky. I was hoping more for a tackle this draft, but I'll take Mendenhall. We have depth, he can develop.

But, make no mistake, Ben can sling it when he needs to. He is the QB we have not had since Terry Bradshaw.

Prok
09-01-2008, 07:53 AM
Hey all another Steelers fan here.

My questions to you guys is what's your take on Shaub? Is he the real deal, or just average?

Will Slaton be your starting RB this week?

How good is your secondary?

dbruder44
09-01-2008, 08:10 AM
Hey all another Steelers fan here.

My questions to you guys is what's your take on Shaub? Is he the real deal, or just average?

Will Slaton be your starting RB this week?

How good is your secondary?

If Schaub is on the field he is a top 10 QB maybe top 8 (poised in the pocket, deadly accurate most of the time, learning not to make that one bad throw a game, can sell play action and hit Andre Johnson for 80 at any time, doesn't stare down his targets) Slaton will get carries but not start. Our secondary is really good when our D-line is putting on the pressure, just so-so without it, you catch us without Dunta Robinson consider yourselves fortunate, the Browns and Bengals have to face a different secondary than what you and Baltimore will see.

Prok
09-01-2008, 08:29 AM
If Schaub is on the field he is a top 10 QB maybe top 8 (poised in the pocket, deadly accurate most of the time, learning not to make that one bad throw a game, can sell play action and hit Andre Johnson for 80 at any time, doesn't stare down his targets) Slaton will get carries but not start. Our secondary is really good when our D-line is putting on the pressure, just so-so without it, you catch us without Dunta Robinson consider yourselves fortunate, the Browns and Bengals have to face a different secondary than what you and Baltimore will see.


Well if it's any consolation i will be one of your biggest fans when u play the clowns, bungles and ratbirds. FYI, that is the correct description of those teams.

I've always thought Schaub was gonna be decent, just wanted the fans perspective. Hell, even Ben will throw the ugly INT at times, comes with the territory of franchise QB.

How's Mario lookin'? Is he gonna give us fits this week?

gtal98
09-01-2008, 08:53 AM
I came here to see how you felt about your team. If you felt your offensive line has improved, where your weakness were, and what players you liked/disliked....because the National Publications will talk about how the treads are off of Ahman Green, how your secondary is hurting, and how your OL is still developing. But, that does not tell me how your rookie LT is progressing and if he will start. It does not tell me how you feel about your new center. How you feel about your secondary.

...Minny did have a very good game against us. I am not arguing that. But, they got pressure from the right side. Jared Allen did not get a sack.

According to our coaches Ahman still has it, and has had a great camp, but we can't honestly evaluate him since he got hurt on the very first offensive play of the preseason for us. :rolleyes: Needless to say, that didn't inspire the fan base to have much confidence in him. If he's healthy we believe he still has it, but we don't honestly expect him to last the whole season.

Not having D-Rob for the first 6 games does hurt our secondary.... but our secondary is not "hurting". Fred Bennett proved himself to all of us last year, we all trust him. The other starting corner will be Jacques Reeves a Dallas castoff. So far we're not real thrilled with him. He has the speed to run with any receiver in the league, but can't seem to find the ball in the air. He is an excellent tackler though. Our safties are what I would classify as "servicable". Neither one is going to make many spectacular plays, but they don't miss tackles, and are never out of position. Overall we feel our secondary is good enough to get the job done as long as our D-line gets pressure, which is another issue....

Despite having 3 first round draft picks on the d-line - they only managed 1 sack in the preseason. Not what we were expecting. We are all hoping and praying that the coaches have been holding them back in preseason just so that your Steelers wouldn't see anything coming, but we're not really sure. We know Mario can get there, Amobi showed promise before hitting the rookie wall last year. We really believe in this unit, but the lack of sacks in the preseason has tempered our enthusiasm a little. And just so you know - Mario could be coming against your RT just as much as your LT. We like to move him around so he can find the soft spot.

Our o-line is looking very good, should be the best one we've ever had. Chris Myers our new center was brought in from Denver to specifically help this line by bringing in someone who was familiar with making the line calls in the ZBS. He is young, but has some experience. He started double-digit games for the Broncos last year after their starting center got injured. I'm still shocked they let him go for a 6th round pick. Gotta love that Kubiak-Shannahan connection. So far he has played very solid. Duane Brown has been extremely good in pass protection, especially for a rookie. He still needs to work on his run-blocking skills some though. And that last bit goes for the whole o-line too. There were some mistakes made on running plays in the preseason, but that's what preseason is for. I expect everything to be fine for game 1.

And Schaub is the real deal. Is he Brady or Manning? No, not yet at least. But we all believe in him, our only question is his durability, not his playing ability. And if he does go down, our backup is good enough to be a starter in this league. QB is probably the position we are least worried about heading into the season.

Prok
09-01-2008, 09:14 AM
I see the Texans as contenders but **** you guys play in one tough division. If ya's can pull out a split with the Colts and Jags ya got a shot IMO. But ya have to at least go 2-2 vs those 2.


My Steelers division is not that tough but **** we got one hell of a tough schedule this year.

Back to the game. Do you guys feel ya can neutralize Willie Parker and make us a one dimensional team? If so, ya got a shot this week IMO.

Here's to no injuries!

theCATALYST
09-01-2008, 09:19 AM
My post was simply to show you should not expect to walk over us.

TMC4REAL, I didn't create this thread specifically to say that the Texans are going to walk all over the the Steelers. If you read my post, I think the difference will be a simple field goal, a 3 point spread. The subject of this post is our oft injured RB and our untested RB. You can say it was more of a "I hope" post then it was a "We will dominate" post.

Much respect to the Steelers, no matter who wins, I think it will be very close. Yes, Schaub is the starter, and we are all happy about that. He is deadly accurate when in a rhythem and shows nothing but confidence when leading the offense.

Slaton will play, but Taylor will carry the load. I believe we will utilize all three RB's in this game. Trust me, we will ALL be watching to see what Ahman has left in the tank, if anything.

dbruder44
09-01-2008, 09:33 AM
I see the Texans as contenders but **** you guys play in one tough division. If ya's can pull out a split with the Colts and Jags ya got a shot IMO. But ya have to at least go 2-2 vs those 2.


My Steelers division is not that tough but **** we got one hell of a tough schedule this year.

Back to the game. Do you guys feel ya can neutralize Willie Parker and make us a one dimensional team? If so, ya got a shot this week IMO.

Here's to no injuries!


Here's to no long term injuries but if were force Big Ben to the bench for the second half from some crushing sacks and he can play the next week so be it. We lost Schaub in 2-3 games like that last year. Your best back up is a rookie.

headsplint
09-01-2008, 09:41 AM
I see the Texans as contenders but **** you guys play in one tough division. If ya's can pull out a split with the Colts and Jags ya got a shot IMO. But ya have to at least go 2-2 vs those 2.


My Steelers division is not that tough but **** we got one hell of a tough schedule this year.

Back to the game. Do you guys feel ya can neutralize Willie Parker and make us a one dimensional team? If so, ya got a shot this week IMO.

Here's to no injuries!

You guys do have a brutal schedule this year. And being honest I hope we have a better showing against the run than what we've seen in pre-season. If our run defense is the same as it was against dallas, WP and RM are gonna run all over us. We also tackled very poorly in that game and we need to tighten up that end as well. So really to answer your question we have 3 first round picks on the D-line, and I have no idea just how good it will be and if we can stop the run. One thing without question is Mario Williams was double and sometimes triple teamed in the Dallas Pre-season and was still getting penetration and disrupting plays. He will give your O-line fits, he is something special and is so much fun to watch, a true beast.\

Schaub is the real deal, his timing looked a bit off in the first few series against the cowboys, but he got it together and went on to throw a TD and rack up 166 yds. We have an elite receiving corps so that adds to his ability and like dbruder said above he can hit Andre Johnson at any given time for an 80 yard TD.

The Steelers are a tough defensive team, and I have alot of respect for them, but we are hoping our team is the real deal, and if things come together on the field how we hope; this should be an entirely different Texans team than the NFL has ever seen. Let's hope we get through this with no injuries and may the best team walk away with it.

Jwwillis1
09-01-2008, 09:43 AM
I completely understand every team suffers injuries. We went 10-6 and made the playoffs losing Aaron Smith and Ryan Clark for the season. We also were without Polamalu for a long stretch. Two Pro Bowlers gone....and STILL finished #1 in the NFL in defense.

And, we have a fleet of runningbacks NOT named Mendenhall that can hold onto the football. Willie Parker, Mewelde Moore, and Gary Russell do not have fumble issues. Mendenhall placed it on the ground 3 times in the preseason and it has already been said he is changing the way he holds the ball....and will be LIMITED in his touches until he gets it right. He cannot fumble if he does not get the ball.

houstonsportsfan09, I surely hope you are not comparing your defensive line with Minnesota's. They have 3 Pro Bowl linemen. The Williams Duo in the middle certainly trumps what you have. Jared Allen led the NFL in sacks last season. And, in just under 3 quarters, Ben was sacked twice, never even touched by Allen. You are comparing your defense to the #1 run defense in the NFL that added the top sack getter? LOL.

And, we do have fast receivers. Fast receivers with great hands. We also have a fast runningback. You will see plenty of quick hitters, slip screens to the WRs, quick outs, things to get the ball out of Ben's hands. And, if our line does what it does best, which is blow guys up in the running game, play action will be deadly.

Dunta, I welcome Mario Williams. Marvel Smith finally had surgery on his back and looks as good as he ever has. He did not make the Pro Bowl a few seasons ago on name recognition. He smoked Jared Allen a few games ago. In fact, he has not had an issue AT ALL this preseason. He struggled last year because of a bulging disk that made his leg go numb in games. When he hit the IR, Max Starks replaced him and promptly blew out his knee. We had scrubs off the street on our roster protecting Ben.

And, I am glad Faneca is gone as well. Good luck to the Jets. I hope they get their $8M a season from him, but I doubt they will. His game had deteriorated significantly over the last three seasons. He was owned by Darnell Dockett last year. His game has slipped. I do not know if Kemo will be better than the young Faneca, but he has already been better than the Faneca we saw last season.

headsplint, I always love when other fans state the Steelers are a team on the way down. The rest of the division says it every year. This is "their" year. We heard it from Cleveland for weeks last year. Then, our defense sent Frye to the unemployment line and our offense crushed Cleveland's defense. And, they went 10-6. The Steelers lost key players last year in critical moments and STILL went into the playoffs. While they were outed early, the did receive that grand old apology from the NFL for missing the call that cost them the game. But, it is a good thing they apologized as the Jags moved on and we went home....because those apologies feel so much better than moving forward in the playoffs. :rolleyes:

The Steelers will be fine. On the way down? Hardly. We have a young RB, QB, three young WRs in Holmes, Washington, and Sweed. Our line may have lost the name player, but they are playing better as a unit. On defense, we have an injection of youth at linebacker and Timmons/Woodley are two exciting players. Our secondary is a group of nobodies that simply play well together. They never get any love, but always seem to finish in the top 10.

Can the Texans win? Sure. They did it a few years ago when we had Maddox at the helm. Of course, your offense did only total 47 yards and Maddox provided the scoring for you, but you still won.

My post was simply to show you should not expect to walk over us.

And, to those that are stating this is a week early, Texan's fans came to our board 2 days ago. Preseason is over baby....and this is a brand new year.

All this may be true--
Have you stopped to consider our cheerleaders are better lookin than YOUR cheerleaders?

headsplint
09-01-2008, 09:52 AM
Back to the original point of this thread, my official prediction for the Texans Steelers is:

Texans 27
Steelers 24

Numert
09-01-2008, 12:32 PM
all this may be true--
have you stopped to consider our cheerleaders are better lookin than your cheerleaders?

hhahahahah :d

Prok
09-01-2008, 12:54 PM
Oh yeah, prediction! lol

Steelers - 34

Texans - 16

SuperstarII
09-01-2008, 01:04 PM
Back to the original point of this thread, my official prediction for the Texans Steelers is:

Texans 27
Steelers 24

I am making a humorous prediction:

Texans 15
Steelers 15

It is nothing but the kicking game in this battle. It goes into overtime and the refs call it a tie. :D

wildroot
09-01-2008, 01:25 PM
All this may be true--
Have you stopped to consider our cheerleaders are better lookin than YOUR cheerleaders?

Actually, I don't think the Steelers have a Cheerleading squad so that was a "Gimme"

TMC4REAL
09-02-2008, 07:43 AM
Catalyst, I understand you point, but I would also expect optimism and enthusiasm from both sides.....otherwise, what is the point of being a fan? But, I do like healthy debate without name calling, which is what I have found on this board every time I have visited. Last time we played, I came here, but apparently, my sign-on had been reset.

gtal98, thanks for the feedback. The idea of you flipping Mario Williams to the other side could be a little troubling. Willie Colon is a young guy that some Steeler fans like, some hate. I think if Williams gets on his side, Miller will stay in to help. Colon sometimes loses the edge and gives up sacks, but he is a really aggressive run blocker with a mean streak that finishes well. If Super Mario flips sides, that will be interesting.....and the Steelers better have a plan for help.

And, I thought you stole Fred Bennett in the draft. I went to USC and graduated just before Bennett (actually had a mutual friend with Robinson who used to ask me where I thought he would go as I ran a now defunct draft site named FootballCorner). I tell you what I saw from FB, he has the athletic ability to play with anyone, but is a better zone than man guy. His change of direction is not what you see in DRob and better route runners can get some separation. He is pretty good with the ball in the air, seems to have a nose for it. Good tackle, aggressive, does a lot of good things. He is the type of corner that plays consistently enough you forget he is there...he just quietly does his job. But, the thing is, he has the talent to get much, much better.

As for your OL, the ZBS is a good one, but the Steelers 3-4 always seems to handle it pretty well (at least they did with Denver). The DL with Hampton, Smith, and Keisel are strong enough that a lot of times linemen need help, mainly with Big Snack and Smith. Why that helps is it allows our LBs to blitz and overload the zone responsibility. I think that Duane Brown will have his hands full with James Harrison. Harrison and Woodley may be our best OLB duo since Lloyd and Greene. They are abusing most of the linemen they face. Woodley picked John Runyan up and slammed him on his back in limited action in the preseason. Runyan was called for various penalties in a few series. We are pretty excited to see him in a full game.

And, I agree Schaub is a stud. He was coming out of Virginia and the Texans bent the Falcons over with that trade. That handful of magic beans you gave them still has not helped them...they blow.

Jwwillis.....I also agree your cheerleaders look better than ours. I'll trade you Max Starks for 5 cheerleaders of your choice and a case of beer.

gtal98
09-02-2008, 08:46 AM
gtal98, thanks for the feedback. The idea of you flipping Mario Williams to the other side could be a little troubling. Willie Colon is a young guy that some Steeler fans like, some hate. I think if Williams gets on his side, Miller will stay in to help. Colon sometimes loses the edge and gives up sacks, but he is a really aggressive run blocker with a mean streak that finishes well. If Super Mario flips sides, that will be interesting.....and the Steelers better have a plan for help.

As for your OL, the ZBS is a good one, but the Steelers 3-4 always seems to handle it pretty well (at least they did with Denver). The DL with Hampton, Smith, and Keisel are strong enough that a lot of times linemen need help, mainly with Big Snack and Smith. Why that helps is it allows our LBs to blitz and overload the zone responsibility.

If flipping Mario to the other side forces Miller to stay in and block, then we just neutralized one of your top receiving threats with a DE. Frees up our LBs and secondary from that responsibility.

And, I know it's not a lot to go on, but I thought our o-line played their best game of the preseason against Dallas, the only 3-4 team we faced. The holes were a little bigger in that game, and our yds/carry was higher.

aj1texan
09-02-2008, 09:02 AM
Green has had a long rest. Should be ready to have at least one good game this season. I predict slaton and green will do well. However, the defense needs help. I think the Texans will win only 5 games this year. I just think they have the good enough talent and depth at RB, DL, S, CB. Linebackers might turn out well.

TEXANBRONCO
09-02-2008, 09:15 AM
did i say i hate pittsburg fans.....dohhhh....when MARIO slams ben and ben crawls off the field..not only are ya gona lose to us ,but, he might be out the rest of the year:D.....oh and please try to run against us...PLEASE...DEMECO (I WANNA HIT SUMTIN) RYANS is awaitin for all your candyasses...yup u was #1 last year ......hehe and u still couldnt do nuttin with it....when it happens for us ......u can believe WE WILL BE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS....their are a few teams in the NFL that are real hungry for a championship, but none are as HUNGRY as the TEXANS. and yes its true......we still remember pittsburg had a gay quaterback....rotfl:D

JOJORDAN
09-02-2008, 09:49 AM
If flipping Mario to the other side forces Miller to stay in and block, then we just neutralized one of your top receiving threats with a DE. Frees up our LBs and secondary from that responsibility.

And, I know it's not a lot to go on, but I thought our o-line played their best game of the preseason against Dallas, the only 3-4 team we faced. The holes were a little bigger in that game, and our yds/carry was higher.


Preach on!

Number 34
09-02-2008, 10:34 AM
This is a tough opener. Just because its an opener, its hard to predict. Lets just say that if both teams come out playing it will be all out war. On paper, I think the Steelers have the edge and being at home they should win the game. The only tangible is...have the Texans improved overall? Will our defense come into its own and will we have an adequate running game? If the answer to those questions are yes then we win this game. If its no then it will be bitter three hours.

Yes...Texans 23, Steelers 20

No...Steelers 27, Texans 13

TexSid
09-02-2008, 12:01 PM
My feeling is pass to open up a decent running game. Get one good play out of special teams and win the turnover battle= win. If not, I don't think we are gonna run all over Pitt.

If true

Texans 27
Pitt 24

If no pressure and dline liooks like pudding (a possibility)

Pitt 31
Texans 17

Jwwillis1
09-02-2008, 02:10 PM
Jwwillis.....I also agree your cheerleaders look better than ours. I'll trade you Max Starks for 5 cheerleaders of your choice and a case of beer.

Man we could use a 5yr vet RT and former lombardi trophy winner. But I really covet our HOT cheerleaders. This may boil down to what kind of beer were talking about. Have your agent get in touch with my agent to discuss terms.

Disclaimer: The Houston Texans organization does not promote human trafficing in any form or fashion. None of the proposed trade ideas are endorced by the Houston Texans.

aj1texan
09-02-2008, 02:31 PM
I would love for the texans to make the playoffs. I think we still have alot of holes to fill in the draft...This is a much harder schedule than last year.

TMC4REAL
09-02-2008, 05:28 PM
gtal, the Steelers under Arians have started using a 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 back set a lot....a lot. If they keep Miller in, then Spaeth will be sneaking out the backside, and he has been a real pleasant surprise to me. Many Steeler fans were pissed when they spent a 3rd round pick on him while we had Miller, but I think he breaks out this year. He has good hands and is 6'7". A great redzone target. So, I think they keep in the TE on the side of Mario anyway. Spaeth is not Miller, but he is still a weapon and has 5" on your tallest LB.

TEXANBRONCO.....back on the meds.

Jwwillis, apparently we may be backing off trade talks as we just suckered...ummm....swindled....up worked out a deal with Tampa Bay to send them Sean "Sidestep 'em" Mahan. Thank GOD we added Justin Hartwig in the offseason and could flush this ummm, fine speciman that gathered us a 6th round pick.

It may take a 2 cases of beer now.

And, Starks was fine during our Super Bowl run, but he gained some weight last year and got beaten out by Willie Colon. He came into this season in good shape, but has played like he just does not care. You can probably have him cheap after this season. Apparently he is determined to sit on his rump and gather the $7M our FO decided to hand him with the transition tag.

Se7en
09-02-2008, 10:14 PM
They STILL finished #1, even though they were not the same defense. The Steelers also finished #3 overall against the run and the pass.

I wish we had a preschool divison to play in! It is no fair that we have to play actual teams 2 times a year! That would make our stats look much better! :(

Se7en
09-02-2008, 10:40 PM
Catalyst, I understand you point, but I would also expect optimism and enthusiasm from both sides.....otherwise, what is the point of being a fan? But, I do like healthy debate without name calling, which is what I have found on this board every time I have visited. Last time we played, I came here, but apparently, my sign-on had been reset.

Take note of the responses "Prok" got. He is the kind of fan that other fans do not mind talking to because he is respectful and trying to have an adult conversation about both of our teams and how they stack up. Nobody is going to call an adult names if they are being respectful in another persons "house."

headsplint
09-02-2008, 11:50 PM
Take note of the responses "Prok" got. He is the kind of fan that other fans do not mind talking to because he is respectful and trying to have an adult conversation about both of our teams and how they stack up. Nobody is going to call an adult names if they are being respectful in another persons "house."

hey speak for yourself! :D

headsplint
09-02-2008, 11:52 PM
Green has had a long rest. Should be ready to have at least one good game this season. I predict slaton and green will do well. However, the defense needs help. I think the Texans will win only 5 games this year. I just think they have the good enough talent and depth at RB, DL, S, CB. Linebackers might turn out well.

ummmmmmm 5 games?


http://re3.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/m2/2169537572

Newfan2006
09-03-2008, 08:23 AM
I think all that there is to say about the game has been said. However I would like to mention that the Steeler's fans have brought a level of class I haven't seen in a long time. I appreciate actual fans who are interested in talking football, some guys on our board should learn from ya'll. Here's to an injury free game, and a Texan win!

aj1texan
09-07-2008, 07:48 PM
TROLL...WTF...take off your beer googles!!! After this game...they need lots of help...