Riddle me this???

[Big Green]

Why did the Texans "snatch up" CB Jacques Reeves after he was cut by the Cowboys for underperforming? He may be great for the locker room but the guy has been in the league for 4 years and has only 1 int!

What were the Texans thinking when the acquired "oft injured" RB Chris Brown as a FA? The guy has NEVER finished a season and has now started this season on the IR list.

How did the Texans let a this off-season go by without addressing the DE position? They put all their eggs into one basket with Rosevelt Colvin then cut him. What now?? How about Chicago Bears DE- Adewale Ogunleye, for Chris Taylor and 3 Rd. draft pick!

[moses77550]

Riddle me this. Why get rid of Taylor? He is going to be a good 1,2 punch with slaton. Riddle me this. Why is your first post so negative? Are you a troll? I think Cochran will step up big this year. Lets see how the first 5 games go and then you can talk crap about the front office.

[BIG ERN]

Why did the Texans "snatch up" CB Jacques Reeves after he was cut by the Cowboys for underperforming? He may be great for the locker room but the guy has been in the league for 4 years and has only 1 int!

What were the Texans thinking when the acquired "oft injured" RB Chris Brown as a FA? The guy has NEVER finished a season and has now started this season on the IR list.

How did the Texans let a this off-season go by without addressing the DE position? They put all their eggs into one basket with Rosevelt Colvin then cut him. What now?? How about Chicago Bears DE- Adewale Ogunleye, for Chris Taylor and 3 Rd. draft pick!

Eugene Wilson? PS????????

[Number 34]

A) They thought anybody would be better than Faggins. Now we have Eugene Wilson who should probably be the starter over Petey Reeves soon enough.

B) Colvin turned out to be a bust but it was worth a shot. We still need someone opposite Mario but I have confidence that Smithiak will address the situation soon enough. Hopefully one of our guys can be developed into a great DE.

[Big Green]

I can "dig" what you are saying about "hoping" and "being optimistic" but I think this line of thinking has kept us out of the post season year in and year out.

As far as CB is concerned they could have done alot better than Reeves... Plus, why the guaranteed money to someone who underperformed- let him prove his worth. Honestly, I would rather see D. Faggins start over J. Reeves (that don't sound right, does it??). DeAngelo Hall or A. Samuel was available this off-season.

I just think that we (Texans) bottom feed too much. I would like the Texans to start to acquire players via trade as opposed to hoping that other teams underachieving FAs overachieve for us.

We continually go into bear fights with belts, if you get my drift.

[justin of doom]

i fart on this thread

[Big Green]

Moses, I thought my post was more inquisitive and objective than negative.

After seeing Reeves play w/Cowboys and in this pre-season w/Texans do you really feel comfortable with J. Reeves and the money he was given. Personally I feel that "Peetey" Faggins should start opposite F. Bennett as opposed to J. Reeves.

Also, I am a big E. Cochran fan and I hope he does well.. But he didn't beat out A. Weaver or N.D. Kalu for starting DE. That's says alot about what the coaches think about him, especially when your DL doesn't have that much talent to begin with.

And Chris Brown.... What was up with that??? Seriously!

[SMC-22]

Oh ok were supposed to build a winning team on your time line.Like it hasn't been our goal.People talk about the division BUT in reality it means we can't sneak into the playoffs,we have to be legitamitely good ,**** great.We can't create a winning team in one year.How ridiculous,Ridlle me this pfff...

[ohcop72]

I can agree with some of what you said about the Reeves issue, as far as Colvin goes, he just did not fit into the system as we hoped. But your last post said our DL has a lack of talent. WHAT, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST YEAR? We have the potential to have one of the Best DL in the League. Wow, you are gonna get some people on here fired up!!!!

[Se7en]

So basically the Texans needed to fill all their holes from last season in one off season in order to make you happy?

Every move the Texans made in this off season were attempts at filling holes for all the positions of need. Be glad we are not IGNORING any positions of need because that would be a sign of a franchise that does not care if it is winning or losing. (Ex: Titan WRs)

This team is building and by all accounts it is a very fun team to watch as it grows into it's new big boy pants! Enjoy the ride with the team or just wait and be a bandwagon fan once they have their first winning season or make the playoffs.

[ib4texans]

I wasn't thrilled with either the Reeves or Brown signing, but I guess you never really know until you try. Things will get sorted out.

[wildroot]

Oh ok were supposed to build a winning team on your time line.Like it hasn't been our goal.People talk about the division BUT in reality it means we can't sneak into the playoffs,we have to be legitamitely good ,**** great.We can't create a winning team in one year.How ridiculous,Ridlle me this pfff...

Actually, it's been 6 years....and counting.

[BIG ERN]

On the day of the first NFL game....what do we get???Rookies coming on here to talk about not over paying A Samuel.geese.Let me guess.....are we going to start talking about all the problems on the O line?????David Carr is a good QB????GO BACK TO CANADA!

[SMC-22]

Actually, it's been 6 years....and counting.

2 regimes,2-14,6-10,8-8,playoffs???How can you knock it.Every year you create new needs,and lose old ones.

[Sportswriter79]

Why did the Texans "snatch up" CB Jacques Reeves after he was cut by the Cowboys for underperforming? He may be great for the locker room but the guy has been in the league for 4 years and has only 1 int!

What were the Texans thinking when the acquired "oft injured" RB Chris Brown as a FA? The guy has NEVER finished a season and has now started this season on the IR list.

How did the Texans let a this off-season go by without addressing the DE position? They put all their eggs into one basket with Rosevelt Colvin then cut him. What now?? How about Chicago Bears DE- Adewale Ogunleye, for Chris Taylor and 3 Rd. draft pick!

1) We needed help at CB since Dunta is out for a while, we didn't use a high draft pick on a CB, and we have only a second-year guy on the opposite corner. We will see how Reeves does against the Steelers.

2) We needed help at RB since Ahman's status looks to remain in doubt until he tests his knee in the regular season, Chris Taylor is coming off a knee injury, and Slaton and Walker are inexperienced. Bringing Chris Brown was pretty low risk.

3) We needed help at DE opposite Mario, and like Brown, bringing Colvin in was low risk.

This is what happens when you have to spend your #1 pick on a LT and don't have 2nd round pick. You have to sort through who's out there.

No doubt, we still have needs to fill, at least according to Smith and Kubiak.

[Se7en]

Actually, it's been 6 years....and counting.

6 years is not that long when you look at the life of a franchise. As long as were continue on the rise I see no reason for people to be freaking out.

WE ARE A BETTER TEAM THAN WE WERE LAST YEAR! If we stay healthy we will be in good shape. Even if we go 8-8 this season we are still in good shape because of our schedule.

[doodyps]

I can "dig" what you are saying about "hoping" and "being optimistic" but I think this line of thinking has kept us out of the post season year in and year out.

As far as CB is concerned they could have done alot better than Reeves... Plus, why the guaranteed money to someone who underperformed- let him prove his worth. Honestly, I would rather see D. Faggins start over J. Reeves (that don't sound right, does it??). DeAngelo Hall or A. Samuel was available this off-season.

I just think that we (Texans) bottom feed too much. I would like the Texans to start to acquire players via trade as opposed to hoping that other teams underachieving FAs overachieve for us.

We continually go into bear fights with belts, if you get my drift.

I don't think anyone here will argue that the team is perfect or complete yet. Kubiak and Smith have been at it for 3 years now (2 and a half I guess, since Casserely was still sort of running things that first offseason). DE, RB, and CB are still holes. You may also argue that WLB and both S postions are weak. But lets look at the holes they have filled in 2-3 years:

OFFENSE
QB- Shaub > Carr
QB2- Rosenfels > Tony Banks
FB- Leach > Morris (although I liked Morris, Leach catches adequetly)
WR2/WR3- Davis, Walter, Jones, Anderson (all picked up inder Kubiack)> Gaffney, and well, who even remembers the other guys we had there?
TE- Daniels > most TE in the NFL
O Line- we've added Winston, Brown, Myers, Briesel. even the depth we have like Salaam, Butler and others would have beat out the starters we had in 05.

that means RB is the only real hole on offense, when in 05 all we had was AJ, and Slaton could be the next Clinton Portis, who knows.

DEFENSE (this is harder since we've moved to a 4-3)
we've added Ryans, Williams, Okoye, Demps, Bennet, Okam, Moulden, Diles, E. Wilson, and others sicne Kubiak got here.

Would I like to have Jason taylor at DE opposite Mario? sure. Would I like Samuels playing next to Bennet until Drob gets back? of course. Do you remember what kind of cap hell we were in after we payed DD a huge extension right before his career ended, Carr the same, Robaire Smith big money,Todd Wade, Greenwood, Weaver, Gary walker? Only Weaver and Green are even still on the team, the rest was deas money. How are we going to sign big name FA's when until this last offseason we were still paying those scrubs.

Also, as you mention, we could trade for players. To trade for a decent play in the NFL means you have to give up a good player or a draft pick. We dont have good players to spare and why give up draft picks when we are so good at drafting (especially compared with how we fare in Free agency)? Our team is finally down to just a few holes: DE, CB (untill Drob gets back), and RB. We have slaton and moulden waiting in the wings. DE is the only postion we seem to have no solution for. Thats ONE position. we filled something like 19 starting roles in 2 years, and you want to whine about having 1-3 holes left? I dont get it. Its a miracle that people are evening saying the word playoffs in connection with the Texans 3 years after going 2-14. Do you think the Dolphins will be that good in 3 years?

[Se7en]

Its a miracle that people are evening saying the word playoffs in connection with the Texans 3 years after going 2-14. Do you think the Dolphins will be that good in 3 years?


Thank you for that dose of sanity.

I am impressed so many people have shown up to adress the troll. By the way... welcome to the boards "new guy."

[BIG ERN]

Take off

[headsplint]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2398/1503822934_56ab6863dd.jpg

[canadtexan]

The glass is more than half full , as mentioned 2 and 14 !!!! compare lineups 07 to 08 , and if your not excited about this season then you never will be ! Try being a Texans fan in Canada where everyone likes whoever won the superbowl the year before ! BTW way to much emphasis on the preseason performances,preseason is rapidly becoming a thing of the past (except for rookies trying to make the team)starting to ramble,sorry just pumped for the season !

[greedimidi]

like i have said before, its real easy to be a couch GM. everybody has an opinion but the bottom line is " in smithiak we trust". just relax and enjoy the ride. it would play itself out. ROME was not built in a day homie! it takes time and patience is a virtue. but in the mean time, LET'S BUSS 'EM IN DA GADEM MOUF TEXANS!

[Big Green]

I can agree with some of what you said about the Reeves issue, as far as Colvin goes, he just did not fit into the system as we hoped. But your last post said our DL has a lack of talent. WHAT, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST YEAR? We have the potential to have one of the Best DL in the League. Wow, you are gonna get some people on here fired up!!!!

I am not trying to be inciteful just realistic. The Texans have some talent on the DL- i.e. Mario Williams, Amobe Okoye, Earl Cochran and newly acquired Stanley Mclover (I wish they would bring A. Maddox back). However, you get nothing from A. Weaver, T. Johnson, J. Zgonina (you know who I am talking about) or N.D. Kalu.

I have followed the Texans since their inception and I personally feel like we are (2) defensive players (stud defensive players) away from being dominant. Could you imagine a D-Line with Mario W., Amobe Okoye, A Maddux and Julius Peppers, Simeon Rice or Adewale Ogunleye at RDE????

All Texans fans could get fired up about that!

[BIG ERN]

Why not post on the David Carr thread?You will have plenty of old news to discuss.

[greedimidi]

However, you get nothing from A. Weaver, T. Johnson, J. Zgonina (you know who I am talking about) or N.D. Kalu.

that the most ridiculous statement you have made so far! anthony weaver, maybe. but TJ , ND Kalu and Zgonina! you gotta be kidding me if you think we get nothing from those guys.

Could you imagine a D-Line with Mario W., Amobe Okoye, A Maddux and Julius Peppers, Simeon Rice or Adewale Ogunleye at RDE????

could you imagine an offense with T.O, Randy Moss, Antonio Gates, LT, Adrian Peterson, Tony richardson,.....and the list goes on! sounds like an all star team right! let's be real for one moment. there is a reason why the Nfl has a salary cap. No team (except for the cowboys and the raiders) can pay all those guys. Its easy for you to say "get this guy!" or "get that guy!" but the reality is that its not that easy. We have the guys to get the job done. you just have to be patient and someone will step up. i guarantee it. and i will remind you when we start shutting offenses down. if anyone remembers, i predicted a top 10 defense this year for the texans. i'll take that back. i think we will be a TOP 5 defense this year. you wait and see.

[BIG ERN]

Trade everyone for Phillip Rivers!!!







LMAO





KILL THIS THREAD!!!!

[Big Green]

that the most ridiculous statement you have made so far! anthony weaver, maybe. but TJ , ND Kalu and Zgonina! you gotta be kidding me if you think we get nothing from those guys.



could you imagine an offense with T.O, Randy Moss, Antonio Gates, LT, Adrian Peterson, Tony richardson,.....and the list goes on! sounds like an all star team right! let's be real for one moment. there is a reason why the Nfl has a salary cap. No team (except for the cowboys and the raiders) can pay all those guys. Its easy for you to say "get this guy!" or "get that guy!" but the reality is that its not that easy. We have the guys to get the job done. you just have to be patient and someone will step up. i guarantee it. and i will remind you when we start shutting offenses down. if anyone remembers, i predicted a top 10 defense this year for the texans. i'll take that back. i think we will be a TOP 5 defense this year. you wait and see.

Real talk greedimidi... What do you get from those guys?? Seriously!! N.D. Kalu I will give you that. TJohnson- 1st rd. disappointment, J. Zgonina- wasting a roster spot. I am glad we agree on A. Weaver. I am not sure why they cut A. Maddox but I definitely think he contributes/contributed more than J. Zgonina & A. Weaver last year and this pre-season.

Let's be real... The Texans could have afforded a high profile/productive defensive player, but they chose to give a couple of individuals "one more year of development". The money you gave J. Reeves could have been better spent on a more explosive player on the DL or Secondary.

The Texans were among the NFL's lowest ranked Defenses in terms of INT & Sacks. You honestly think we are going to be a TOP 5 defense returning the SAME starters as last year and no D. Rob???

[Big Green]

Trade everyone for Phillip Rivers!!!







LMAO





KILL THIS THREAD!!!!

Hey Big Ern.. Just about everyone who has posted on this thread has had some valid and "mature" input! Show everyone your football knowledge by contributing something more than "KILL THIS THREAD!!!!".

We are waiting!

[Big Green]

I notice you're avoided the fact that we brought in Eugene Wilson....

when you read we signed him you thought: "Oh **** I forgot about him."

well there you go, we have someone who is going to help this DB core so chillaxxxx.

Actually, I heard the E. Wilson was going to get signed yesterday.

I have to give credit where credit is due... Kudos to my Texans. I liked this signing and HOPE that he replaces J. Reeves immediately.

[Towlie]

i fart on this thread

i already did...

[theCATALYST]

Wow......being kinda hard on the new guy arn't we? In any case, yes, I agree, we do still have some holes that need addressing. Each season since Kubiak came, has been better then the last, this season will be no different. I can understand Big Green's frustration, I have frustration about the small things too, but thats just it, they are small things......small things that given time will be corrected. I for one, do not think Reeves hould have a spot on the Texans lineup, but who I am to make that judgement? Let's just watch the game this Sunday, some of these players just might surprise us.

[Big Green]

try having more than 7 posts before you try telling everyone here what to do.

That last post EllisUnit was to Big Ern and no one else...

I am not so brash as to "tell everyone here what to do" but I do think it only fair that you send "Big Ern" the same commentary regarding his "kill this thread".

[BIG ERN]

Hey Big Ern.. Just about everyone who has posted on this thread has had some valid and "mature" input! Show everyone your football knowledge by contributing something more than "KILL THIS THREAD!!!!".

We are waiting!

Your whole thread is a piece of trash.You are stating thing which we already know and discuss.When was the last time you watched this team?Do you know what Kubiak and Smith are trying to do?You need to get up to date and get back with us.

Now.......



WORST THREAD EVER KILL IT

[BIG ERN]

GOODBYE Stupid Thread

[Big Green]

you guys he's gonna be a texan fan until they lose their first game, why are we talking to him anyways? he won't be here by the next month..

unless we don't lose :D

I will be here when the Texans win.
I will be here when the Texans lose.
I will praise the Texans when needed.
I will scrutinize the Texans when needed.

If "WE" go into Pittsburgh and have 2 sacks + 1 int and the DL and DB's play well I will apologize and "eat my crow" with a early moring post on the following Mon.

If we lose Sunday and it is because we don't get pressure, defense passes or tackle.. Then I will expect a couple of you to man up and do the same.

It is going to be a very interesting season fellas... Very interesting!

STOP THE ROOKIE HAZING!

[BIG ERN]

Ouch

[Big Green]

Rookie hazing?....I thought we ALSO agreed you're just a troll! :D

At first I didn't like the name "Troll", now I dig it! If you see "Troll", you'll know it is me. Peace!

[Number 34]

At first I didn't like the name "Troll", now I dig it! If you see "Troll", you'll know it is me. Peace!

Your not a troll, just a nub. You really have to know what you are talking about on these boards, otherwise you will get blasted.

Bottom line is Smithiak is trying to piece together a team to contend this year. Believe that. They have to sift through a lot of garbage before they can find the pieces that fit. Some pieces don't fit all that great but you have to work with them anyway. Not every position can be a star but I know they will get the best players they can get their hands on. You will see.

[headsplint]

Your whole thread is a piece of trash.You are stating thing which we already know and discuss.When was the last time you watched this team?Do you know what Kubiak and Smith are trying to do?You need to get up to date and get back with us.

Now.......



WORST THREAD EVER KILL IT

Agreed!!!! Kill the thread, Roll up the noobie troll into a little ball and shoot him into space.

[headsplint]

I will be here when the Texans win.
I will be here when the Texans lose.
I will praise the Texans when needed.
I will scrutinize the Texans when needed.

If "WE" go into Pittsburgh and have 2 sacks + 1 int and the DL and DB's play well I will apologize and "eat my crow" with a early moring post on the following Mon.

If we lose Sunday and it is because we don't get pressure, defense passes or tackle.. Then I will expect a couple of you to man up and do the same.

It is going to be a very interesting season fellas... Very interesting!


Oh and don't "expect" us to do anything, noob.
STOP THE ROOKIE HAZING!


So why are you just showing up now? :confused:

[greedimidi]

please have mercy on the new guy! will ya?

[JOJORDAN]

I agree with one thing you said why pick up chris brown I didnt understand that also. And they kept him despite being injured almost all of preseason......troubling to me

[Se7en]

I agree with one thing you said why pick up chris brown I didnt understand that also. And they kept him despite being injured almost all of preseason......troubling to me

He was familiar with the zone blocking scheme and he is a wonderful player to watch when he is on the field.

[Big Green]

if he could stay healthy.

Chris Brown is on IR... That means he can't play this year, correct??? Does his spot count for a roster spot and does he have any guarranteed money coming to him?? His bonus is $800,000.

[headsplint]

maybe he just now got the internet.

you still need a
CB for Goallineblitz, if u still have a team ?

Hmmm, I am losing a cornerback but it really depends on the level man. Sorry you missed out when I was starting up but I had to get my roster filled. What level is your corner? And do you plan to boost or buy custom equipment? Actually just send me a PM so we don't hijack this thread.

[wildroot]

6 years is not that long when you look at the life of a franchise. As long as were continue on the rise I see no reason for people to be freaking out.

WE ARE A BETTER TEAM THAN WE WERE LAST YEAR! If we stay healthy we will be in good shape. Even if we go 8-8 this season we are still in good shape because of our schedule.

I'm not freaking out, simply correcting JRAMOS on his assertion that we can't expect it all to happen in "one year". It's been 7 years now without a winning season, not one. The first regime counts, as McNair was the one that hired them. Don't expect all the fans of the Texans to simply follow blindly and without question every move the Texans make. Even the Oilers and Gamblers were successful early in their franchise history, so yes, it can be done. I realize the Gamblers were playing at a different level than the NFL, but they did have success against "Like" talent in their league.

[wildroot]

I love all these negative posters making these threads and call themselves being "realistic":confused:

Go to a city and start yourself a football team in the salary cap era and hire Dom Capers as your head coach and see how far ya get man. Capers gone. Kubiak here. IMO we didnt get started til 06.

Remember, it was McNair that hired Casserly and company.

[Sportswriter79]

[QUOTE=A-B;138123]I love all these negative posters making these threads and call themselves being "realistic":confused:

QUOTE]

Some fans take a more subjective view than the others, but it doesn't make them negative.

[Jwwillis1]

Answer:

According to Bob McNair what he has learned over the last 6yrs as an NFL owner is

1) High Priced Free Agents are the HIGHEST risk.

2) High draft choices are the 2nd greatest risk.

Reeves is cheap in the scheme of things. So is Brown. Not all picks are going to pan out unless your name is GOD. You just need to get more right than wrong while being careful with the cap. Then there are the suprises like Ryans that tend to balance things out with kubs and co. Phat free agent contracts earned us 2-14 and the need to start over. Really not much of a Riddle to most of us on this board. But I'll play since im bored.

[Big Green]

Answer:

According to Bob McNair what he has learned over the last 6yrs as an NFL owner is

1) High Priced Free Agents are the HIGHEST risk.

2) High draft choices are the 2nd greatest risk.

Reeves is cheap in the scheme of things. So is Brown. Not all picks are going to pan out unless your name is GOD. You just need to get more right than wrong while being careful with the cap. Then there are the suprises like Ryans that tend to balance things out with kubs and co. Phat free agent contracts earned us 2-14 and the need to start over. Really not much of a Riddle to most of us on this board. But I'll play since im bored.

What I find interesting is that good/great teams find a way to get the most out of HPFA's and HDC's, yet MY Texans struggle with this aspect of NFL management. We are making far too many excuses for the Texans.

Phat free agent contracts played a part in our 2-14 record this is true... But what is also true is how the Texans threw money and continue to throw money at any/everybody i.e. Todd Wade, D. Carr, A. Green & T. Johnson.

C. Brown nor J. Reeves came cheap... Check their bonus and guaranteed money.

[wildroot]

come on he tried bringing the NHL here first, he didnt know crap about football, an honest mistake.

No doubt, but I'm not going to call out a poster because he questions FO/Coaches decisions because as you said, they make mistakes. This is the only way most of us have to question some of these decisions when we have concerns about the team. Like I said earlier, some of us don't march blindly behind the piper like so many of you do without braking rank once in awhile and posing an honest question. To some, the Texans do no wrong and to suggest otherwise somehow always seems to brings a slew of name calling and critizism.

[BIG ERN]

i say we wait to see how reeves plays for us before calling him a bust, i can see how some would say that but players can change teams and make a fresh start.

nice aviator!

[Texan Dave]

I am not trying to be inciteful just realistic. Here is realistic, eventually we will have a great team, just like eventually the colts will be bottom feeders, as they were pre Manning. It's the way of things!

[headsplint]

Aviators? What the heck is going on here!!!!!!???? J/K:D

It is Avatar though. ;)

[cuppacoffee]

What I find interesting is that good/great teams find a way to get the most out of HPFA's and HDC's, yet MY Texans struggle with this aspect of NFL management. We are making far too many excuses for the Texans.

Phat free agent contracts played a part in our 2-14 record this is true... But what is also true is how the Texans threw money and continue to throw money at any/everybody i.e. Todd Wade, D. Carr, A. Green & T. Johnson.

C. Brown nor J. Reeves came cheap... Check their bonus and guaranteed money.


Now you have gone too far. Take it back...:D

[Big Green]

For me Dave it is very frustating to see or accept a team like the Titans (who have less talent than we do) at least compete with the Colts and Jags.

It is frustrating to see the Texans fail at what other teams seem to do routinely, bring in upper tier talent/experience.

Don't get me wrong, we are coming up and getting better!

I just believe the Texans FO can do better with its FA selections.

[JOJORDAN]

He was familiar with the zone blocking scheme and he is a wonderful player to watch when he is on the field.

He is if he can stay on the field. He gets hurt everytime he gets hit.

[JOJORDAN]

Here is realistic, eventually we will have a great team, just like eventually the colts will be bottom feeders, as they were pre Manning. It's the way of things!

I see that happening this year. Call me crazy but I dont see the colts winning the the AFC South this year. At most I see them winning 10-11 games maybe.