Turn, turn, turn - Jacques Reeves

[texun]

To every pass - turn, turn, turn
There is a reception - turn, turn, turn
and a corner who does not look for the football.

It burns me to watch Jacques Reeves constantly be in position to make a play and he just doesn't turn his head. He can run step for step with most receivers and all he has to do is read the receivers eyes and turn his head at the right time and he would be one of the best corners in the league. Instead, he never turns his head if his back is to the ball. He did make a good pass defense on a throw to end zone against the Colts, but that was a post pattern where his back wasn't to the QB so he could see the ball. Don't you think DC's know this and realize all they have to do is get him 1 on 1 and throw to his side - he won't look for the ball.

Turn Jacques, turn.

[Sprtsfanatic]

To every pass - turn, turn, turn
There is a reception - turn, turn, turn
and a corner who does not look for the football.

It burns me to watch Jacques Reeves constantly be in position to make a play and he just doesn't turn his head. He can run step for step with most receivers and all he has to do is read the receivers eyes and turn his head at the right time and he would be one of the best corners in the league. Instead, he never turns his head if his back is to the ball. He did make a good pass defense on a throw to end zone against the Colts, but that was a post pattern where his back wasn't to the QB so he could see the ball. Don't you think DC's know this and realize all they have to do is get him 1 on 1 and throw to his side - he won't look for the ball.

Turn Jacques, turn.


I totally agree and can not believe that this guy still thinks he's in college...look for the ball, turn your head...cause if its close and there is incidental contact your gonna get flagged for pass interference for shielding the receiver by not turning your head...he still hasnt learned this and this is why I think we should give Molden a chance to showcase his size, skill, and ability.

[Otisbean]

The funny thing about Reeves is he has good to great position on the WR 9 out of 10 times, but I have never seen a DB not look for the ball as much as he does. If we could somehow get him to read the WR eyes and look for the ball he could be an above average CB.

[TMac48]

The funny thing about Reeves is he has good to great position on the WR 9 out of 10 times, but I have never seen a DB not look for the ball as much as he does. If we could somehow get him to read the WR eyes and look for the ball he could be an above average CB.

Above average? Try great...you're right, the guy has position on the recievers on nearly every play. His athletic ability is there, no doubt. Hoke just needs to teach him how to keep his head on a swivel.

[281]

jacques "turn around" reeves. this is my new nickname for him.

[HuttoKarl]

At least have Reeves run with his arms flailing above his head so he can maybe knock a pass down once in awhile.

[theCATALYST]

At least have Reeves run with his arms flailing above his head so he can maybe knock a pass down once in awhile.

HAHAHA, I like that.
But seriously, Reeves can be great, if he just plays the ball.

[WaldovonPutz]

No doubt the guy can cover - just can't deflect the ball. Sort of like the golfer who hits every green in regulation and then three putts. Still mediocre.

[Texan Naija]

I don't get why he doesn't read the receivers. If they are moving their arms or heads to catch or look for the ball, all Reeves needs to do is reach his arms in the air and most of the time he might throw the ball off course. But despite this problem, I can't lie, I like him as a starting cornerback.

He is always there and I think if the secondary coaches can get him to watch the receivers or the ball, while maintaining his coverage speed, he can be a great defensive weapon.

[Se7en]

I don't get why he doesn't read the receivers. If they are moving their arms or heads to catch or look for the ball, all Reeves needs to do is reach his arms in the air and most of the time he might throw the ball off course. But despite this problem, I can't lie, I like him as a starting cornerback.

He is always there and I think if the secondary coaches can get him to watch the receivers or the ball, while maintaining his coverage speed, he can be a great defensive weapon.

He is always with the receivers and I like that was well. Payton was able to thread the needle on a few plays and that is just him being an amazing talent.

Watch how great our secondary will look against Kitna. :)

On a serious note, you guys need to go watch Reeves defend the pass on Wayne's insane endzone catch last week to seal their win. Reeves has his hand on the ball to push it away and somehow Wayne holds it with one hand and pulls it in.

Reeves is doing things right and he is learning... I am hoping he will take these hard times and turn it into motivation to get better just like Super Mario did. Mario is an animal now because he learned from it all. Reeves has all the gifted abilities he needs to be an amazing corner.

If Reeves and Bennett can show the improvement we nee dfrom them we may have the option of Dunta becoming a shut-down Safety for the team.

[Wildbill703]

Maybe we could get the coaches to put one of those dog shock collars in his helment then they could just push the button when the ball gets close and he would flail his arms a plenty. Or they could just zap him when he doesn't look for the ball.

[Se7en]

Maybe we could get the coaches to put one of those dog shock collars in his helment then they could just push the button when the ball gets close and he would flail his arms a plenty. Or they could just zap him when he doesn't look for the ball.

Everyone makes it sound so simple like all he has to do is turn his head when the ball gets close. Great eceivers do a good job of faking ot the DBs to get them to turn their heads and then they make their cut.

For example... The WR starts out to run a post route and then puts his hands up like it is a timing route, then makes his cut for an out route and the corner totally bit thinking the ball was coming and now the WR is wide open.

It is not as simple as just looking, it is a matter of having a feel for the ball coming.

[MLB]

[QUOTE=TexanSaint;152477]

For example... The WR starts out to run a post route and then puts his hands up like it is a timing route, then makes his cut for an out route and the corner totally bit thinking the ball was coming and now the WR is wide open.

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I agree but to a point. Reeves has this problem after he has stuck with the receiver through all the receivers cuts and breaks and is running with them wide open down the side line (the receiver is obviously not cutting any more at this point) and the ball seems to float over Reeves should and is caught by the receiver. There is no reason for Reeves to not be looking for the ball at that point as the receiver is no longer in a position to make cuts on him. He should consider himself a receiver at that point in time actually and be looking for the ball (to intercept maybe???).

[Sixshooter]

Cowboys Fan here - Reeves will drive you crazy like that. He had shadow tight coverage a lot of time on the short routes but 90% of the time he'd never turn around to get sure INT or break ups so the reciever would just pluck the ball over or around him for the recption. I thought eventually he'd get it in his 3 years here, but never did. Maybe your team will have better luck with him.

[3andOUT]

To every pass - turn, turn, turn
There is a reception - turn, turn, turn
and a corner who does not look for the football.

It burns me to watch Jacques Reeves constantly be in position to make a play and he just doesn't turn his head. He can run step for step with most receivers and all he has to do is read the receivers eyes and turn his head at the right time and he would be one of the best corners in the league. Instead, he never turns his head if his back is to the ball. He did make a good pass defense on a throw to end zone against the Colts, but that was a post pattern where his back wasn't to the QB so he could see the ball. Don't you think DC's know this and realize all they have to do is get him 1 on 1 and throw to his side - he won't look for the ball.

Turn Jacques, turn.

I completely agree with the fact that he's in decent position a lot of the time, but fails to make a play on the ball. BUT it's not as easy to turn and make a play on the ball as a lot of people are making it.

You guys are right with the fact that we need have to have a corner who can make a play on the ball, but I'm not sure Reeves will ever be a guy who can do that. It's all about ball skills and ball skills are pretty much solely instinctual. I don't think Reeves has good instincts on the corner. He has pretty good acceleration, good recovery speed, but terrible instincts. My point is that he is what he is. It's frustrating as hell, but not something I think can be fixed.

[mamoo]

He keeps getting beat on the same route. His problem starts by turning his head. You can't locate the ball that quickly. The best DBs learned to play that by playing the receiver. When they see the receiver making his move for the ball, they get their hands inside his hands. If he can learn to do this, he'll be a hell of a db. Until then, Reeves name is toast.

Let's see if Pennington launches a few to the outside on Reeves this week. It will probably happen when the team needs either a first down or a big play.

[Matt_in_KW]

HAHAHA, I like that.
But seriously, Reeves can be great, if he just plays the ball.

I agree, he seems to be locking down the WR...and staying with them. BUT, he never plays the ball. And that makes him look as if he got burnt. In reality, he wasn't burnt he just never looked to see when the ball was in the air. To me to be burnt, you have to be behind the WR by afew steps, they make a catch and keep on going because you can't keep up.

And if he did this, Bennett on the other side seemed to come into his own last week. If he keeps that type play up, he could be very good teamed with D-Rob when he gets back.