I really like Slaton but we need a true power back to assist him

[DCtex]

Slaton has fantastic speed and vision on the field but he hasnt got the body to break tackles. He tried twice to convert a 1 yard short to first down , but he wasnt able. We need a PR who can make those kind of plays.
Green cant stay healthy, and he earn too much money to be a backup. We should release him and draft a PR (not in the first round)

[RichieVar]

The moment I heard Green was hurt I knew we weren't getting any down with 1 yard to go. Slaton doesn't have that kind of power, but that's fine. With his other abilities you make him dangerous. I'd like to see what the Saints do with you know who and put him at WR sometime with our bruiser back in the backfield throwing teams off.

[coytexan]

I agree 100% slaton is going to be a star but the NFL is a two back league now. We have slaton who is lightning now we need to pick up the thunder

[Texan Naija]

I wouldn't be opposed to have three backs, Slaton starting,a drafted power back and with Green (after another contract renegotiation) as a middle of the road vet to be change of pace. I think the Ravens have something similar with their running backs.

[Little D]

I wonder why they don't let Moats play when Green goes out?

[WaldovonPutz]

I agree we need a power back but I also wonder why we never seem to throw the ball to Slaton. It would seem to be simple logic to put him out in space and let him go. It was supposed to be one of his strengths when we drafted him.

[A-B]

I wish we still had the Dayne train to go with Sleepy. That would be nice. Atleast Dayne stayed healthy unlike umm.. somebody else on this team.

[silvrhand]

the NFL has forgotten how to use a true scatback.

- swing passes
- screen passes
- sweeps

aka roger craig is how we need to treat slaton.

[GoldenHolden]

the NFL has forgotten how to use a true scatback.

- swing passes
- screen passes
- sweeps

aka roger craig is how we need to treat slaton.

The Saints haven't. That is about all Bush does. But I agree with your statement. It frustrated me to see the Texans to continue to run a small back right at a 350lb. DT. We need a reliable short yardage back.

[pure_respect]

Steve Slaton has arguably out-performed every other rookie RB this year. Although Jones, McFadden, and Mendenhall have been injured a majority of the year we can at least see how he stacks up against the others in his class. I'm only counting backs with 100+ attempts this year.

Taking into account rushing stats only.

Matt Forte: 4.0 YPC, 6 TD, 18.7% 1st Down, 4 20+ Runs, 2 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.
Chris Johnson: 4.5 YPC, 5 TD, 19.3% 1st Down, 4 20+ Runs, 2 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.
Jonathan Stewart: 4.3 YPC, 6 TD, 22.9% 1st Down, 5 20+ Runs, 0 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.
Kevin Smith: 4.5 YPC, 5 TD, 21.8% 1st Down, 6 20+ Runs, 1 40+ Run, 0 Fumbles.
Steve Slaton: 4.9 YPC, 6 TD, 22.6% 1st Down, 8 20+ Runs, 3 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.

For fun I'll add in a standout from last year for comparison value.

Adrian Peterson: 4.9 YPC, 8 TD, 22.3% 1st Down, 14 20+ Runs, 2 40+ Runs, 4 Fumbles.


In my opinion the only thing keeping this kid down is that we don't have a true complimentary back. Green has done the job when he's healthy, but that's a coin flip that we seem to keep losing. I look forward to seeing if we can get him some help to keep him fresh throughout the season. Although he'll probably never be a 30+ carry back, his production when he's on the field is without question.

[A-B]

Steve Slaton has arguably out-performed every other rookie RB this year. Although Jones, McFadden, and Mendenhall have been injured a majority of the year we can at least see how he stacks up against the others in his class. I'm only counting backs with 100+ attempts this year.

Taking into account rushing stats only.

Matt Forte: 4.0 YPC, 6 TD, 18.7% 1st Down, 4 20+ Runs, 2 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.
Chris Johnson: 4.5 YPC, 5 TD, 19.3% 1st Down, 4 20+ Runs, 2 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.
Jonathan Stewart: 4.3 YPC, 6 TD, 22.9% 1st Down, 5 20+ Runs, 0 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.
Kevin Smith: 4.5 YPC, 5 TD, 21.8% 1st Down, 6 20+ Runs, 1 40+ Run, 0 Fumbles.
Steve Slaton: 4.9 YPC, 6 TD, 22.6% 1st Down, 8 20+ Runs, 3 40+ Runs, 1 Fumble.

For fun I'll add in a standout from last year for comparison value.

Adrian Peterson: 4.9 YPC, 8 TD, 22.3% 1st Down, 14 20+ Runs, 2 40+ Runs, 4 Fumbles.


In my opinion the only thing keeping this kid down is that we don't have a true complimentary back. Green has done the job when he's healthy, but that's a coin flip that we seem to keep losing. I look forward to seeing if we can get him some help to keep him fresh throughout the season. Although he'll probably never be a 30+ carry back, his production when he's on the field is without question.

Good point. The best part to me though was your 1st sentence. Unlike the others he has been healthy.

[pure_respect]

Good point. The best part to me though was your 1st sentence. Unlike the others he has been healthy.

Had to leave a loophole open, Felix Jones was an absolute monster in the time he was able to play. I find it kind of entertaining that many teams passed on Slaton because they questioned his durability.

*Knock on wood* Time will tell.

[Texan Heat]

It'd be nice to see him line up on the outside like he did against the Jags with his TD catch in the endzone. Good way to change it up on opposing offenses.

[A-B]

It'd be nice to see him line up on the outside like he did against the Jags with his TD catch in the endzone. Good way to change it up on opposing offenses.

Yeah I was wondering about that myself.

[Texan Heat]

Yeah I was wondering about that myself.

If I'm not mistaken, I think they did line him up on the outside for one play in today's game but it would be nice to see them do it more often.

[Se7en]

I wish we still had the Dayne train to go with Sleepy. That would be nice. Atleast Dayne stayed healthy unlike umm.. somebody else on this team.

He stayed healthy while destroying the legs of his blockers. I think that makes the no gain dayne train a worse option!

[A-B]

The man had over 700 yards last season. That incident with the blockers only happened like once didnt it? Plus he wouldnt be playing as much with Slaton as the premier back. I'm just saying he isnt playing anywhere he would be a good re-addition for a fair price and he is the exact type back we are looking for to compliment Slaton.

[Texan Heat]

I remember a game last year that he nearly looked like he was breaking his arm when he shoved it through a pile of defenders and he got the TD call from the Ref. I do miss watching Ron play.

[A-B]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2142

[SuperstarII]

I wonder why they don't let Moats play when Green goes out?

Because Kubiak is stubborn....

[blake1776]

Why don't they let Leach or Sapp carry the Rock... Leach lays down the pain when he hits. Is he too slow?

[El Tejano]

This is why I am a big fan of drafting Knoshawn Moreno with our first pick and open up the pocket book to veteran FAs on defense.

[headsplint]

Breaking news ************ The Texans need a powerback*************




I mean really? I think there may be 1 or 2 threads out there already discussing this.

[WaldovonPutz]

Because Kubiak is stubborn....

Kubiak was quoted as thinking Moats had too little experience to throw him in there in that situation (preserving the win). I don't entirely buy this as he isn't exactly a rookie and Slaton is. It's really hard to believe we go into a game with an undersized back we are trying to limit carries on and an injury prone older back without having a Plan B. I just hope Slaton doesn't get too beaten up, ala Dominic Davis/Williams.

[B.Diddy]

This is why I am a big fan of drafting Knoshawn Moreno with our first pick and open up the pocket book to veteran FAs on defense.

Knoshawn Moreno is a excellent back but he isnt a power back id rather us go with Beanie Wells or Javon Ringer or even the guy from Iowa (i can't remember his name)

[B.Diddy]

I wouldn't be opposed to have three backs, Slaton starting,a drafted power back and with Green (after another contract renegotiation) as a middle of the road vet to be change of pace. I think the Ravens have something similar with their running backs.

I totally agree with you Green has shown that when healthy he still has alot to offer if we were to draft another back and run a three back system all three would have less wear and tear on their legs and Green would be able to possibly play two more seasons .......and even if he didn't we would have our insurance plan in our draft pick

[crazyhorse]

I agree a power back would be helpful especially one that stays healthy. Using lLeach for the short term isn't a bad idea either.
The other thing that would help is for the coaches to remember that there is both a right and left side of the line . On third and short we almost always run to the left, which makes us very predictable and deprives us of using our best lineman to block, Eric Winston. If the coaches are trying to trick the opposition it's not working.. We need to play to our strongest assets to keep position of the ball.

[willieg52]

We should pick up RB Micheal Bush from the Raiders. He's 6 "1" 245lbs. They were trying to trade him this year but the Chargers didin't have the right offer for the Raiders to let him go. I bet if we offered Travis Johnson for for Micheal Bush that deal would go through...lol

[SuddenHavoc162]

Can anyone say Brandon Jacobs!! He will be a FA this yr. Very long shot but, you never know.

[Texan Naija]

I get the feeling either that the coaches don't trust his ability to hold onto the ball or he is to strong of a blocker for them to consider moving him to the half back position.

[El Tejano]

Knoshawn Moreno is a excellent back but he isnt a power back id rather us go with Beanie Wells or Javon Ringer or even the guy from Iowa (i can't remember his name)
Yeah but Knoshawn doesn't go down with one good hit like Slaton does so he has some kind of power. I also don't think you draft a guy in the 1st round to get you 1-2 yards occasionally.

[El Tejano]

Can anyone say Brandon Jacobs!! He will be a FA this yr. Very long shot but, you never know.

You know we got the money to make that happen. He's already won his Super Bowl and he's fulfilled his contract, most likely they will get to the Super Bowl again. He may be willing to listen to us. Especially with the RB friendly offense we run and a coach who wants to run the ball.

The only things I could see preventing the deal from happening would be money and the fact that he might want to be the premiere back, and we have one already.

[A-B]

You know we got the money to make that happen. He's already won his Super Bowl and he's fulfilled his contract, most likely they will get to the Super Bowl again. He may be willing to listen to us. Especially with the RB friendly offense we run and a coach who wants to run the ball.

The only things I could see preventing the deal from happening would be money and the fact that he might want to be the premiere back, and we have one already.

If we picked up Brandon Jacobs they could both be the premier backs. What I mean is swap them in and out like we tried to do with Slaton and Green.

[Wolf6151]

The guy from Iowa is Shonn Greene, he's 5'11" and 235 lbs., he'd be the perfect complimentary back to Slaton. Green was named the Big 10 offensive player of the year this year beating out Beanie Wells of Ohio. Green can possibly be had in the 3rd round as well.

[headsplint]

The guy from Iowa is Shonn Greene, he's 5'11" and 235 lbs., he'd be the perfect complimentary back to Slaton. Green was named the Big 10 offensive player of the year this year beating out Beanie Wells of Ohio. Green can possibly be had in the 3rd round as well.

Yeah I posted on another board about Shonn Greene, if you want to see what he can do, or have any doubt about him just watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPN0Oa2YqM&feature=related

[DoomQue]

i would like to see Chris "Beenie" Wells with slaton if he comes out this year and falls to us.

[Otisbean]

Greene would be a great pick up,especially in rd 3-4. Another guy I have read about, but admittedly haven't seen play is Jennings from Liberty. Great size at 6' 235, maybe someone with the college package will take a look at Liberty and give us a scouting report.

I really want defense in the first 2 if not 3 rds. My dream off season would be to sign Suggs for the RDE, move MW to LDE, Draft the best available S or LB in rd 1, DT BJ Raji in rd 2, Patrick Chung or Rashad Johnson at S in 3, and Greene at RB in 4

[texun]

Yeah I posted on another board about Shonn Greene, if you want to see what he can do, or have any doubt about him just watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPN0Oa2YqM&feature=related

I doubt that Shonn Greene will last to the 3rd round. However, he is still there when we pick, we would be foolish not to take him. He would be a great compliment to Slaton.

[DCtex]

Yeah I posted on another board about Shonn Greene, if you want to see what he can do, or have any doubt about him just watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPN0Oa2YqM&feature=related

This guy wont last until 3rd round.

Btw I hope Slaton will be full healthy at MNF and he can show the league that they made mistake to overlook him at the draft.

C'mon Slaton!!

[tgriff00]

It'd be nice to see him line up on the outside like he did against the Jags with his TD catch in the endzone. Good way to change it up on opposing offenses.

I agree, I think Kub's and Kyle need to draw up a special package that has Slaton in different positions on the field i.e in the slot, outside, in motion. I think that would really force a defense to think a little harder and if they don't get burned!!

[El Tejano]

This Greene guy looks great. Didn't he have a good game against Texas in the Alamo Bowl a year ago or so?

I'm looking for more info on Coffee from Alabama. I saw him play today and everytime I see him that dude is busting some tough yards. What does anyone think of him?